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In post 32, elusive wrote:Am I the only Kitty Kat? I forget what I'm compatible with although I know I get along with Libra's, farside
RVS Questions!
1. What about your sign do you know that is true to your personality\outlook?
2. Pick a player you have played with before in the game and describe their town\scum meta
3. What is town's optimal choice if they receive a fortunate horoscope and why?
1. Everything.
2. Meta sucks. Anybody who's good at playing mafia can manipulate it. And if I said anything about anyone, they'd just adjust their gameplay.
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In post 49, startfromtheheart wrote:
Hey, cowboys fan is voting me! Ouch. That hurts.
*ahem*
Roger that.
Also, far and I tend to get along well.
Sorry. I'll unvote. It's nothing personal, I just random.org all my RVS votes now.
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I really doubt that this is actually going to work. I think the mod would have came up with something to avoid the game being broken like this.-
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In post 103, Mainez wrote:In post 94, Aronis wrote:I really doubt that this is actually going to work. I think the mod would have came up with something to avoid the game being broken like this.
i don't get why you're not willing to go along with this, there's essentially no harm because if you do not have the daykill then all is fine.
I'm doing it, I just think there's a 99% chance it doesn't work. Farside could be lying, I highly doubt they had to pick right away so they could still be discussing it atm, or we could be saying the wrong words.-
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In post 122, farside22 wrote:In post 118, Aronis wrote:In post 103, Mainez wrote:In post 94, Aronis wrote:I really doubt that this is actually going to work. I think the mod would have came up with something to avoid the game being broken like this.
i don't get why you're not willing to go along with this, there's essentially no harm because if you do not have the daykill then all is fine.
I'm doing it, I just think there's a 99% chance it doesn't work. Farside could be lying, I highly doubt they had to pick right away so they could still be discussing it atm, or we could be saying the wrong words.
Why would you think I'm lying
I don't have any reason to believe you are at this point. But it is a possibility.-
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In post 154, farside22 wrote:Nacho: how much do you remember from the last run of this game?
Same question to Aronis
I remember it pretty well. I didn't really follow it very much after I died though.-
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@farside about the daykill thing: I'd have to clarify with the mod about how the daykill would work to make sure town doesn't screw me over by doing this. If I could get it and avoid using it until I wanted it, I would choose it and then save it till LyLo for the insta-win. If not, I'd take the roleblock.-
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In post 279, Nachomamma8 wrote:In post 277, Aronis wrote:@farside about the daykill thing: I'd have to clarify with the mod about how the daykill would work to make sure town doesn't screw me over by doing this. If I could get it and avoid using it until I wanted it, I would choose it and then save it till LyLo for the insta-win. If not, I'd take the roleblock.
For one lovely moment, I thought you scumslipped really, really hard.
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In post 298, KayP wrote:Thoughts:
How did Ricastle come to the conclusion that the game is all-vanilla? This seems like inside information to me. I also don't get how he would know mafia didn't have pre-game talk... there's just a lot of info coming out of Ricastle that seems like maybe he assumed everyone knows because it's hard for him to separate himself from what he knows as mafia and what he should know as town.
I think farside is my strongest town read so far... claiming that opposite alignment empowerment thing basically just confirms that she is town if there's a night kill in the upcoming phase, right? Because if she was mafia that got "opposite alignment empowerment" it would mean she couldn't kill. How does this not just make her confirmed town?
I also think Tammy is pretty town for not understanding how things worked... I was confused myself, too, so that speaks to me. Plus, if she was mafia, wouldn't she have had to select an action thing already? So she would know how it works... unless she's faking ignorance, then Tammy is a good town pick for now.
Metal Sonic's reasonless vote on Tammy is highly suspect to me.
And yet there's something about Ricastle asking for explanations that sits with me wrong. It could just be confirmation bias from my read on him already, but something just seems "off" about the way he popped in to kind of stir the flames of three wagons at once.
So that's my catch up... sort of underwhelming. I assumed there'd be more to talk about in 12 pages but I guess not!
VOTE: Ricastle
I think the assumption regarding all vanilla is bc the previous game was all vanilla.-
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In post 291, startfromtheheart wrote:In post 275, Aronis wrote:Pagetop!
We should talk! Although -
Fuel tank is a little empty after that 6 hour marathon last night. Probably same for you!
We should!
That did take alot longer than I expected. It was fun alot of though.-
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In post 301, elusive wrote:In post 292, Tammy wrote:In post 290, elusive wrote:
You should probably give up on your cat pouncing game, you're swatting at air, and I'll do things in my own time and in my own way. I think that should be apparent by now.
Stop being so mousy and passive aggressive. When you're in the mood, let me know what you think about the people who defended you or voted you. Ps I did say I only read your game entrances and some end notes. So be cool.
Also hi Aronis, idk how I feel about all this. Like post breakup return to normality. Did you suicide bomb me in that game with my arch nemesis Marquis? You're a murderer
Nacho,
Hi! Tbh, I don't remember suicide bombing you, but then again. I don't remember alot of people I've killed.-
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In post 308, elusive wrote:Ric, I'm not going to have a meltdown andI'm town as heck. Also trying to provoke players into meltdowns while seemingly fun also encourages them to keep doing it rather then channeling emotions in more positive fluff GIF and music based ways.
No more meltdowns for me. I can't stop being sassy but am trying to keep on the right side of that line as well.
Which can be difficult.
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In post 310, elusive wrote:I hope to get a daykill, please fates and stuff.
Aronis, you've only seen my good side and town as fuck seemed too much now that I'm reforming myself.
Don't you already have one? Or did you guys pick something else?
My issue isn't the swearing, more the 'town' part of that statement. I think maybe you got it mixed up with scum?-
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In post 312, Ricastle wrote:Actually, you know what, fair enough. Wasn't a remotely confident vote and reading your posts back I'm not seeing what I thought I saw. I'm also not really seeing Tammy scum at the moment unless there's some bombshell evidence I'm overlooking (which tbqh is very possible considering my attention level in this game).
Why don't we all make up and wagon startfromtheheart, eh?
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In post 315, Mainez wrote:In post 312, Ricastle wrote:Actually, you know what, fair enough. Wasn't a remotely confident vote and reading your posts back I'm not seeing what I thought I saw. I'm also not really seeing Tammy scum at the moment unless there's some bombshell evidence I'm overlooking (which tbqh is very possible considering my attention level in this game).
Why don't we all make up and wagon startfromtheheart, eh?
startfromtheheart is joking around too much, i can't seem to read that lol
pedit: looks like someone's here~
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In post 324, Metal Sonic wrote:Good exchange. Alignment indicative.
VOTE: ricastle
I also think that nacho could be scum.
Startfromtheheart can give bert a run for his money. Or is he a Bert alt?
Yeah, he's Bert's alt.-
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In post 316, elusive wrote:In post 311, Aronis wrote:In post 310, elusive wrote:I hope to get a daykill, please fates and stuff.
Aronis, you've only seen my good side and town as fuck seemed too much now that I'm reforming myself.
Don't you already have one? Or did you guys pick something else?
My issue isn't the swearing, more the 'town' part of that statement. I think maybe you got it mixed up with scum?
Awww...Joe-Ronis baby, if that were true wouldn't Marquis be dead since I diddaykill: Marquis? Logic. Also, I knew we were in a weirdly awesome cult for what seems like a year but was probably much less, but we did break up before the cult part was over for very legit reasons and stuff and so now its so awkward when you fake scumread me and when I want to totally daykill you, right?
Mainez et al seem to think that at 13 pages in my vote and reads on a player automatically will lynch them which is bizarre. If she isn't scum we'll find out, if she is we'll find out. However, I'm very interested in finding out and seeing what scum hunting tools you seem to operate on.
Ric, startfromtheheart seems to be joking a lot and not doing much and he backed up off to easily on his vote in post #53. He also obviously has some connection to Aronis.
He's not the only one avoiding reads or content or much though.
I'd probably vote KayP instead and hope for some actual content rather then blah blah avatar bleu.
If you think my scumread has anything to do with EtU, you're wrong. I'm not the person who's still mad about that and even if I was, my personal feelings do not impact my game reads. To say that my scumread is entirely fake is ludicrous and I'm certainly not the only person here who has doubts about your alignment.-
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VOTE: elusive
should've done that years ago.-
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@farside: Startfromtheheart and Sonic are town. Tammy is prob town. Elusive is obvscum.-
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You're right, elusive is more like confscum.
Ricastle, I'm sorta leaning scum on atm. Not confident at all about it though.-
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In post 389, farside22 wrote:Things that elusive failed to mention.
There was more then one scum faction in the game she is referring to.
Second i don't recall ever saying she or he in the game when reffwring to Elusive, yes my memory/ADD is very real
Maybe I'm just really insensitive, but who cares if some1 gets your gender pronoun wrong? I've been called a 'she' countless times.-
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In post 378, Marquis wrote:i honestly don't know. i just tried looking at u in iso a few hours ago to try and pinpoint what's been bugging me incessantly about your posts. but then your iso makes me think you're bees-town!tammy :/
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i don't know what direction i should be looking in right now.
your kayp point was good and thinking on that, it's (that slot's) my strongest townread. other than that i have you leaning town now, and nothing else (besides elusive taking everything way too personally and being unnecessarily venomous, but i should be used to it by now)
maybe i should pause and try to get started on a PoE solve.
A good direction to start looking would be elusive. Ricastle is okay too, I guess.-
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In post 392, Mainez wrote:someone should enlighten me, what was the point of post 387?
only the first 3 sentences seem to be related to this game.
To get you to vote elusive!-
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In post 394, Marquis wrote:hi aronis.
why is elusive scum
is it because she can be unpleasant and unpleasantness means scum
I'll answer this tonight.-
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In post 406, farside22 wrote:In post 404, Metal Sonic wrote:aronis ISO always stinks
I usually see him more useless as scum. Did this change?
I'm always useless. Haven't you figured that out by now?-
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Are you saying my play was better then? Bc I considered moving past the fake cop stuff and self-hammers as town was a good thing.-
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So I decided to make my case for elusive scum now, bc I have nothing to do.
So she starts off her ISO by asking RVS questions, which I rarely see, but it's the perfect way for scum to give the appearance of doing something when they really aren't. So that's when my scumread got started. The daykill thing is pretty alignment null, bc she just goes along with it like almost every1 else. Then she requotes her dumb rvs questions to make sure every1 notices them and she gets the towncredit for them.
Following that, she comes out with the most ludicrous sumread I have ever seen on Tammy, because she will not engage on page 8 after having made 7 posts. So honestly I don't see why not engaging people is that scummy unless it's really obvious and extreme and that certainly wasn't the case with Tammy as she had hardly posted and had a chance to engage with people. Then more daykill stuff, which is boring and meaningless.
Next she begins insulting people, which while it's not necessarily scummy and some players just have a reputation for it, I feel like in this case it kind of is, because of the setting. Basically she insults people which 1. makes some people not want to confront her. Re: KayP's replace out. And 2. She starts calling every question dumb and telling people to read what she wrote, etc. Which is an excellent way to avoid answering things.
Then in an attempt to pick apart Marquis reads, she says anyone who has scumreads with only 7 posts is lying, only she somehow forgets she first indicated a scumread on Tammy when she only had 8 posts. So that statement is very contradictory. She also says that you can't have a solid scumread nine pages in, she then votes for Tammy in her very next post. The last post on the ninth page.
Next up, is some other posts which I don't really care about. She does tell Tammy to daykill her, but Tammy had already done that. Which shows that she is obviously not reading things carefully, something she had griped at lane for. Then she decides to insult Tammy for a while. While not really providing any content on why Tammy is scum, just saying tha she is and being very demanding and rude.
Then she gets KayP to replace out. And writes about a nuch of stuff that is super irrelevant.-
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In post 441, Tammy wrote:Do aronis and elusive have past game or offsite experience together? If so, how much?
Nope. We know each other from a Survivor game where we were best of friends until I backstabbed her.-
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There goes the elusive wagon.
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In post 482, lane0168 wrote:It's kind of odd I'd say. Do you not believe in your case anymore?
I'll vote her again should the opportunity arise. But there's no point atm if I'm the only person.-
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In post 485, farside22 wrote:Wtf is up with the m's wagon?
Mainez's vote is RVS. Ricastle's vote is prob omgus. And idk about SFTH's.
VOTE: mainez
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Ricastle is a good lynch.
VOTE: Ricastle
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In post 512, lane0168 wrote:I mean I think you unvoting is pretty townie of you but I just don't see what else there is. This game has declined to a snails pace ya know?
Unless you want to analyze the wagon?
She just having second thoughts about bussing her partner day 1, that's all.-
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In post 521, massive wrote:In post 514, lane0168 wrote:After that I think metal and nachos reactions to it are the second scummiest. Both tried to lead us to believe they could pm it to the mod and their reactions seem the weirdest in general imo.
But why would they lead us to believe that if they were scum and knew they HADN'T picked the day kill?
Do you think elusive is scum?
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In post 538, elusive wrote:Ugh why does it speak to us?
Ric, your "give up" attitude is bizarre and I've never seen it in your town games so idk but its quite heartbreaking and you going to get slayed for it which if you're town (like in the words of Buzz Lightyear)
I'm probably just super oblivious, but who or what is 'it'?-
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In post 555, elusive wrote:massive has not done as promised which is a bad start
nacho was cool for a moment but then disappeared
tammy is being petulant and reducing the value of their posts by being so
startfromtheheart is awol and has not yet done as promised either
aronis has yet to make a solid post that is meaningful
ditto marquis
there are some other people
im scared to agree with metal sonic and farside so idk
ricastle is being all tragic and will probably be the lynch
counterwagon time?
Not make a solid post? Try reading this. I put alot of time and effort into that for people to just ignore it. I don't write walls(aka a post with more than three sentences) often and I'd like them to be appreciated when I do.-
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In post 527, Mainez wrote:In post 487, Aronis wrote:In post 485, farside22 wrote:Wtf is up with the m's wagon?
Mainez's vote is RVS. Ricastle's vote is prob omgus. And idk about SFTH's.
VOTE: mainez
To explain this vote, I shall quote the famous Mainez: " your ISO kind of stinks."
how is my ISO stinky?
It's certainly not any better than mine. At least I have the common sense to not be RVS voting on page 20.-
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In post 528, Mainez wrote:In post 483, Aronis wrote:In post 482, lane0168 wrote:It's kind of odd I'd say. Do you not believe in your case anymore?
I'll vote her again should the opportunity arise. But there's no point atm if I'm the only person.
shouldn't you push a lynch for who you think is scum?
In post 506, Aronis wrote:Ricastle is a good lynch.
VOTE: Ricastle
(That's L-1 for those that can't count)
why? you haven't even said anything about ricastle except in 354 which you are not confident at all about it and in 391 where you guess that ricastle is an okay direction to look at.
Have you heard of this thing called a deadline? And what about boredom? Bc that combination makes me willing to lynch about anyone.-
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(That you are using a loophole to avoid following the activity rules and should be modkilled?)-
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In post 542, farside22 wrote:Town should talk about scum reads.
If you don't you look like scum aTe.
I'm torn because the wagon has stalled and scum could have jumped on the wagon if ric was town. Seeing that not happen I'm Leanimg ric scum.
Frankly I know he is better then this
Okay! Elusive is scummy, Mainez is scummier, Ricastle is scummiest!
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*past (not 'about')
I would be cheering for you for such an accomplishment as getting out of the rvs phase before page 25, but I'll save the appluase for after your speech explaining your scumread.-
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In post 562, Tammy wrote:In post 559, Aronis wrote:
(That you are using a loophole to avoid following the activity rules and should be modkilled?)
I was expecting Nacho to say something about it, but he didn't even come in here.
VOTE: nachomamma
He'd probably say 'I AM GROOT'-
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In post 565, massive wrote:In post 555, elusive wrote:massive has not done as promised which is a bad start
I made it to page 12 and have kept current with posts since I replaced in. I usually abhor computers on the weekend and this is easily proven out by looking at any of my other games. So, to put it politely, stuff a sock in it, Potsy.
Wow! You're lucky to have such a long weekend! At least you should be able to finish catching up on Monday and Tuesday before it's your weekend again.-
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In post 564, Tammy wrote:That won't help me feel better about him!
Also, I'm going to try to get caught up here tonight but I have grading to get caught up on before I do that, so there's a good chance I don't get caught up until tomorrow.
Maybe he'll say 'We are Groot' then?
That would be something!-
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In post 577, Nachomamma8 wrote:I'll be around soon!
I'll believe it when I see it.-
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In post 578, elusive wrote:So Massive, is setting himself up to be useless this game. I suggest we lynch here.
In post 502, massive wrote:In post 501, elusive wrote:I'd like massive's thoughts on the game since they were catching up\replaced in.
Me too. Today has been a killer in the office and I'm barely popping in to keep up with current events, but I should have some downtime at the weekend to roll around in it.
In post 565, massive wrote:In post 555, elusive wrote:massive has not done as promised which is a bad start
I made it to page 12 and have kept current with posts since I replaced in. I usually abhor computers on the weekend and this is easily proven out by looking at any of my other games. So, to put it politely, stuff a sock in it, Potsy.
One of these is a lie, guess which one? So yeah Massive, try taking your foot out of your mouth before BSing.
VOTE: Massive
I'm not going to move my vote. He had one decent post and then set himself up for not posting during the week (blah work busy) and the weekends (blah no computer busy).
Tammy, Groot, etc...same thing goes for you.
@RedCoyote - If there is a place for me on this site to start or post something about lurking and active lurking and how it seriously ruins games, please let me know. Otherwise, I agree with Aronis that posting to avoid the rules (prod dodge) should be a mod force replace event. It's frustrating for people trying to actually play the game.
(You should go play in Mastin's games, she has the best rules about lurking)-
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In post 587, elusive wrote:In post 583, massive wrote:In post 578, elusive wrote:I'm not going to move my vote. He had one decent post and then set himself up for not posting during the week (blah work busy) and the weekends (blah no computer busy).
Can you explain your turnabout in scumhunting style? You vote Tammy for essentially her meta of replacing-in tactics but you just low-fruit swing away at me without bothering to look at mine? Is it due to Tammy's reputation on-site compared to mine?
I would care to respond but I don't respond to liars who don't have time for the game, but wait you suddenly seem to...
Also try getting your facts straight, "meta of replacing-in tactics" is def. not why I scum read her slot. I still find her scummy, her continuing play and dance with nacho is scummy. There is something off about Tammy but because of her on-site reputation people aren't going to look at her or prod her today. So, yeah.
In post 589, elusive wrote:Reputation matters zilch to me on this site and life in general, I make my own decisions about people\objects based on direct interactions. My death glare is legendary.
It's funny how instead of you know catching up or posting thoughts, with deadline looming, you're still posting without content....magnificent...
Wait a minute. You say they reputation doesn't matter, but then you're not willing to look at Tammy today because of her on-site reputation?-
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