Robbery! At The Casino (Game Over)

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i am here. Apologies, but i don't usually check in on weekends

/confirm

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VOTE: dr. pants

pants is a funny word

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how can anybody hate beck?

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i honestly don't think so. His town strikes me more towny then it does scummy.

And i did mean the band.

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i honestly don't think so. His town strikes me more towny then it does scummy.

And i did mean the band.

could you explain this?

town should be tone. typo.

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i don't think the reads are bad.... we've got to have some sort of content generation. I"m curious.

Why do you think it's useless?

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Chronically lurking. I apologize.

I don't see the double trouble scum really. They just seems awkward to me, not overtly scummy.

As of now i see Fox and Aronis as probably town.

Egg bothers me a tad though.

Ok I can see that

Unvote

Are you going to move your vote back to Prolapsed? If not why and what are your reads so far?

I might. I didn't like his confirmation post, but it wasn't a strong tell. I don't have any strong reads as of now. Currently reading and this could change before I'm done typing this post.

And to respond to Post 105, my vote wasn't because you defended yourself. You should defend yourself when someone makes a case that you are scum. But it seemed like a bit of an overexplanation at first glance. It threw me off a bit because it seemed like the point against you wasn't a genuine strong point and you looked worried that someone had called you scum. However, the second post that you pointed out proved me wrong. I may be stubborn sometimes, but when I see that I don't have a point to make anymore, I'm not going to keep pursuing the no longer valid point.

Egg is scum according to this head. Jumping on someone for explaining their post after being voted for it is not likely to come from town. Double agreed enough to random vote.

~Trouble

Why call it a random vote if it's not? (Damn, I see Blue beat me to this point)

Caught up.

*Sigh*

Probably gonna have to rely on my nice powerful role to catch scum.

The constant repeating that he has an investigative role bothers me. That bothers me whenever it is done. and here is no different.

VOTE: egg

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i'm not a double voter, came in to point that out. It's a vote count mistake.

I don't believe that you have an investigative role. The sanctimoniousness with which you assume that it's obvious is what bothers me, less than the soft claim itself

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i'm not a double voter, came in to point that out. It's a vote count mistake.

I don't believe that you have an investigative role. The sanctimoniousness with which you assume that it's obvious is what bothers me, less than the soft claim itself

No cooking eggs. I believe their claim.

-- Double

Why?

The ace of spades - no matter what you think of egg's claim,there is no way they are getting lynched today and so applying a vote is pointless. Once they have made the claim you have to let themselves ru with it for a night. Objection can be raised but voting against them isn't going to go anywhere.

Okay......
UNVOTE:

Ace's 56 - I'm interested in this read because Shos himself admitted that he was trolling. How did you find him to be more townie than scummy?

I'm more inclined to see trolling as town than scum. Maybe it's not correct in theory, but in my experience it's more likely for him to be town. Just dumb.

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Actually des has some good point against DT there with the RVS-removal-of-responsibility excuses.

242 reads as bad halfomgus.
243 reads as just bad. Pick an inactive, vote for rvs voting pattern(lol?). Lazy scumplay away from radar.

VOTE: dr pants
One sgould wear their pants on legs not head.

I don't really get this.....

Or maybe i just disagree, I also generally have a problem with RVS wagons, i don't ever see any real town reason for starting them, there's just to much to chance.

Reading aronis' iso though......i have a few problems with it. They lie within

Spoiler:

Aronis, have you ever been in a hydra before? Your reason for scum reading DT seems to be because you dont think they are playing to Titus's meta game, but thats fairly irrelevant since its not just Titus posting.

Also going to take this moment to point out that Aronis and BBT both seem to like joining what ever new wagon pops up, with BBT being especially guilty of this. Shos has looked somewhat better, his explanation of drunk posting at the beginning makes some sense for playing out of character.

UNVOTE: Shos
VOTE: BBT

I'm jumping on every new wagon that shows up?

And I was just moving my vote around to see what happens. Unfortunately, I found the explanation of 'We're trying to actively lurk and cant explain why' not very reassuring, so my vote stays there.

This bothers me because the "vote hopping till something sticks" strategy is scummy. If he was actively pressuring the people he votes for i wouldn't have a problem with it, but just throwing votes till someone reacts is the easiest way to provoke a reaction without risking saying something stupid.

Vote Double Trouble

Why would Titus want to lurk?

This is a really really really good point. Titus rarely, if ever lurks. Usually she is one of the most active people in game.

VOTE: DoubleTrouble

This is just opportunistic. Lurking isn't inherently scummy, and if Titus usually is active, unless there's a meta suggestion that this is only true as town then it's a bad meta read. Also what pant's says in 197 is true here as well.

He's reaction to desparado's vote also is minimal. Why post at this point if you're not going to say any thing?

VOTE: Aronis

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trolling is a case by case basis, cause I have certainly seen scum troll before

sure. In this case i'm not sure. I'll read his iso. But just playing by odds, i'd guess trolling town before trolling scum.

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I'd like to log my interest in lynching Egg tomorrow. If that hasn't been made clear. Cop gambits are bad mmkaay

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does that seem even remotely likely?

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more votes on aronis pls

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it's been said multiple times.....you're just ignoring it

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to be fair, most holidays are "x happened, let's eat"

also @ aronis. BBT is about the towniest looking person here. you're really making me happy with my vote, so. cool? i guess?

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BBT reads town to me. no lynchie

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shos why are you calling wagons un viable? if the peopel they are on are indeed scummy then pushing a wagon on them is exactly what should be done.

Aronis is scummy as fuck. thou shalt lynch him now

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but shos is starting to look like a reasonable lynch

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VOTE: PB

sheeping

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VOTE: PB

sheeping

You're not scum-reading Aronis anymore?

sure i am. i'll vote either one.

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Egg wasn't a universal town read for sure. Mostly just because i didn't read him like that. That makes it non universal yay!

I'd like to lynch PB or aronis today. While i don't know that beck is incorrect i just am not moved enough to vote for ger.

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i don't think he did.... hence the quotes

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^^ shos is correct. can we lych aronis now?

VOTE: aronis

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@ ger. i expressed a scumread on aronis from the beginning. and since when is agreeing with someone's read scummy?

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PB what are you on? like seriously.... i'm starting to agree with beck, and that's a horrific feeling (no offense)

You're making "points" and drawing parallels that are ridiculous. What you're saying makes no sense. I'm really not feeling your posts now. :/

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I'm going to assume that you meant PC and not PB there, so I'll respond.

First I resent the "What are you on comment" towards my partner. Second, how about pointing out specifically what points and parallels you find distasteful instead of saying a blanket statement like you did. Third, if you were doing a Randy Jackson impression you forgot to end your sentence with Dog.

first. it was directed at your slot. i don't know either head well enough to tell them apart. resent what you will. I don't really care how you feel.

the paralles you are attempting to draw between beck's "performance in other games" comment about you, and his admission of a style of play for himself.

Third. i don't know who randy jackson is.

SO you actually only have on point. But great job trying to fluff it up.

VOTE: PC

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why isn't it scummy beck? it's like a the perfectest way to look like you're scumhunting, and get a vote on the easiest wagon.

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yeah i know. but he wasn't pressuring those people. he was just throwing votes. Throwing the vote and then hoping someone creates a reason to start a wagon, then hide on the wagon. Easiest scum strat ever

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@ beck. desp is pretty null. one line responses. nothing much to go on. could just as easily be scum as it could be lazy town. null

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beck. pls grow a spine.

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I really don't think BBT is scum. That's actually my strongest townread after beck/ika. Shos is null leaning towards scum just because it's almost exactly half and half scum posts and town posts.

Desp is just lurky so i'm not willing to lynch him really. But the fatalism is a bit scummy.

I'd still like to lynch PC

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DT you are officially making zeros sense. Everything's been pointed out already, but you are seriously not forming cogent thoughts here.

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don't do that shos. explaining town reads is always bad.

ika i'd like to know what you're getting at. And i'm STILL not sure why people are scumreading BBT.

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ger actually makes a good point on desp. but i also agree with BBT that the wagon is scummy. I'd still like to lynch PC. Come on now guys.

Also. Can the people scumreading BBT and ger tell me why they are reading those people that way? i just don't see it.

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@ desp post 1017

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^^ i don't see it

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I don't see it as a scumslip. Claiming VT get's so much bad press but it is literally the most likely claim to be accurate, calling a claim of VT scummy just because there have been no PR flips yet is just WIFOM in the extreme.

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then simplify. it looked like a lot of hand waving to me.

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how would they not notice "anything wrong with that" like you said, egg's is up.

cause i don't see it. Dealer VT is the pm. what's so confusing about people claiming that?

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you really want me to claim?

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dealer. vanilla townie.

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i said "dealer, vanilla townie" how is that hardcore hedging?

For a thought exercise, imagine that you're wrong, and that i'm exactly what i say? how exactly would I do my claim in a MORE townie manner? desp your case makes zero sense.

I hate that every time someone claims VT everyone goes "oooo must be scum, easiest claim" because that's fucking stupid. I don't really understand what you want from a town player. Maybe next time i'll just lie and claim doc then you'll believe it because it's rarer.

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i was choosing to ignore that part, because it is the definition of fucktarded, so I assumed it must be more than that. Apparently it's not and you're just an idiot.

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FF your reasoning on the VT versus vannilla townie doesn't apply to me. So there's obviously some other reason. You only voted me after i claimed meaning it wasn't satisfactory to you in some way. My concern and points are therefore warranted.

Also. I said your ideas were fucktarded. I just called you an idiot. You called me stupid. Alls fair. You cant act like a dick to me and then go the "let's all keep our tempers" route if i choose to respond in kind.

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well i guess you can. But it just makes you look like a tone deaf asshole (<== that's legitimate escalation if you want to complain about something)

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i think that "apparent inability to understand basic concepts" is pretty close to the basic definition of "stupid" for them to be used interchangeably. So unless you meant something completely different by that i'm not putting words in my mouth.

As to my upbringing. Sadly i had no control over the circumstances of my birth. Happily i could recognize my own mother's species.


I fail to see the point of this exchange however. Other than. It's fun.

Pedit. oh well. That' explains everything. Good case.

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id agree with you ika. If didn't totally disagree with you.

except maybe titus. i'll re read

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i could have gotten being grey. flames has done nothing to speak of since.

it's a bit weak tho.

Reading DT and titus's stuff, im scumreading them both. So i'd be more comfortable with a Titus lynch

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so uhhhh. now what?

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well i guess i haven't flipped yet, so i can bitch.

You guys are idiots. I was town and i hate you all.

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great
still down.
still hate you guys.
pls lynch titus