Mini 427 - Clue Mafia 3 - Game Over - Is this what happened?

DragonsofSummer · Post Post #9 (isolation #0) » Mon Apr 23, 2007 9:49 am

Accuse Jack

just because I feel like it.

DragonsofSummer · Post Post #24 (isolation #1) » Wed May 02, 2007 8:15 am

Hello? Man this mansion seems rather deserted for all the people that are supposedly here.

DragonsofSummer · Post Post #32 (isolation #2) » Thu May 10, 2007 3:49 pm

unvote vote Jack

as part of my role I automatically detect bs and am required to vote people who do so.

In other news come on people it can't be this hard to play in three threads at once you all do it on a daily basis for different games... why not for the same one?

DragonsofSummer · Post Post #33 (isolation #3) » Thu May 10, 2007 3:52 pm

Ebwop: In other other news I was already voting Jack so I feel like an idiot right now.

DragonsofSummer · Post Post #67 (isolation #4) » Wed May 16, 2007 3:59 pm

unaccuse Jack

I think it is a fairly good claim.

DragonsofSummer · Post Post #92 (isolation #5) » Tue May 22, 2007 5:57 pm

I have no idea what is going on. If these games were really developing at all I would have a reason to post. As it is I don't really see anything worth while that has happened, and imo BM is just being BM and not more scummy than usual yet.

DragonsofSummer · Post Post #99 (isolation #6) » Sun May 27, 2007 7:41 pm

You make a valid point about lynching scum TCS... but I don't like you trying to frame me for your scumminess is just absurd. Give me one good reason you believe I am scum?

DragonsofSummer · Post Post #112 (isolation #7) » Wed May 30, 2007 7:05 pm

Look TCS you can single me out all you want but here is the deal. It is very hard to post in a game where as you have said yourself very few people are posting on a regular basis. You want content. Fine I think you are scummy in all the games as I've said before because you are trying to bully people into doing what you want them too as I've also said before.

You also make a valid point that it is easier to see you as a scum because you are one of the few posting on a regular basis. I've tried to bump this thread myself before and no one seems interested in actually playing this game at all and as such I post even less than I do on a normal basis here.

DragonsofSummer · Post Post #189 (isolation #8) » Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:31 am

Vote MBL

because of the obvious reasons.

DragonsofSummer · Post Post #213 (isolation #9) » Wed Aug 08, 2007 10:59 pm

Accuse: Haschel Cedricson

I am certain of persecution.

DragonsofSummer · Post Post #232 (isolation #10) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 9:13 am

I feel that anyone who looks closely should know I have a very good reason for voting for HC right now.

DragonsofSummer · Post Post #234 (isolation #11) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 8:45 pm

See your problem is that I am not only a cop, but the cop. My role is duel I am the cop from the movies and my flavor is that even though I'm freaked out I want to find out whats happening here.

You are going on the assumption that you actually know for a fact that there can't be all three of those roles in the game, and the fatal flaw there is that you do not know that MoS didn't do exactly that. Therefore your entire arguement is invalid. Also if I have to be lynched so they can get you tomorrow then I'm okay with that. One other question I'd love to have you answer. How in the world do you know there is only one mafia goon left in the game?

DragonsofSummer · Post Post #235 (isolation #12) » Fri Aug 17, 2007 9:12 pm

EBWOP: By the way your logic is flawed about Alko as well. Assuming that his claim is false it doesn't necessarily make him scum. It just means he wants to hide his real role for a reason.

DragonsofSummer · Post Post #239 (isolation #13) » Sat Aug 18, 2007 7:35 am

Haschel, here is the thing you may not have stopped to think about though. What if every person in this clue game was a power role? Of course it is pure speculation, but I find it a distinct possibility given that all the people killed already, and all of the roles that have been claimed so far are power roles.

I'm sorry, I missed your post explaining why you thought there was only one goon left at this point. I still disagree that you can make that conjecture on day three of a game where everyone who has died has had a "power" role of some sort.

BM, a mass claim could be helpful, but I do not think it will be completely beneficial until we know a little bit more about the roles of this particular game.

DragonsofSummer · Post Post #240 (isolation #14) » Sat Aug 18, 2007 7:37 am

EBWOP: Hey do you guys want me to claim my other night result?

DragonsofSummer · Post Post #245 (isolation #15) » Sun Aug 19, 2007 12:18 pm

c_d I was just saying that everyone could be a power role. I don't actually know it's just a possibility.

BM I investigated HC because he replaced CES who I felt was rather scummy because of his extreme lurking in the game and that of his two posts one said that he was thinking about hammering and the other put a vote on someone, and so was curious, also at the time I turned in my night choice CES had not been replaced yet.

Night 1 was interesting for me because I attempted to investigate BillyTwighlight, but was roleblocked, and from the way the roleblock was described it was a female role, I'd guess Ms. Scarlet, but do not know for sure.

The reason I did not get in on the discussion about the power roles yesterday I can also explain. I didn't want to accidentally give away that I was one of the three through my arguments in favor of it being a possibility and through such risk being NK'ed before I could help the town at all.

Are there any questions I missed that were asked to me?

DragonsofSummer · Post Post #259 (isolation #16) » Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:03 am

Ectomancer wrote:However, this nugget from DOS does make me think there may be a benefit to a mass claim. I don't think he needs more time to determine what a safe claim would be.

BM, a mass claim could be helpful, but I do not think it will be completely beneficial until we know a little bit more about the roles of this particular game.

I didn't think about it that way Ecto. You make a very good point. So I think that a mass claim could be helpful today.

DragonsofSummer · Post Post #266 (isolation #17) » Wed Aug 22, 2007 12:46 pm

Name? Flavor?

DragonsofSummer · Post Post #278 (isolation #18) » Fri Aug 24, 2007 8:45 am

Ecto you say none of your targets have died? Not one in 3 nights? Are you 100% sure you read your role as a Vig role?

DragonsofSummer · Post Post #279 (isolation #19) » Fri Aug 24, 2007 8:46 am

EBWOP: I don't like the attack on BM here. He is trying to get to the bottom of a situation and you turn around and basically accuse him of being the godfather after saying

None[/b] of your night targets have died.

DragonsofSummer · Post Post #281 (isolation #20) » Fri Aug 24, 2007 11:17 am

Any chance you targeted me N1? Cause if thats the case you are most definitely a Roleblocker and not a Vig.

DragonsofSummer · Post Post #282 (isolation #21) » Fri Aug 24, 2007 11:18 am

Ebwop: I gotta stop hitting the post button before I finish what I have to say.

That is a good point about the possibility of another unkillable role. Also I understand what you mean now, and it is completely fair for you to question BM on his "confirmed" townness. I just read your post the wrong way the first time.

DragonsofSummer · Post Post #297 (isolation #22) » Mon Aug 27, 2007 11:49 am

BM you act as if you believe HC is claiming his actual role... Let me ask you... In your opinion, with a game this full of power roles so far... why the hell would there be a Jack of all Trades? It doesn't really make that much sense to me. Plus it feels like a claim that definite scum would make to just try to blend in a little bit. Plus if you notice he was perfectly happy to melt into the background and let you push ecto, and as he says with vig... wouldn't Jack of all Trades be easy to say as scum. You can basically claim anything you want with who you targeted, and your buddies won't out you on an investigation, no one will ever know if you protected or not, and for the rb its the same story as the investigation. Not to mention the fact that him knowing who was targeted with the investigation, but not the roleblock, and not knowing which was used on which night is rather peculiar in my opinion... Every game I've ever replaced into the mod has given me every piece of information that they have... night choices for each night, and their targets and results... His claim is extremely fishy in my opinion... even worse than ecto's claim, and what really strikes me is no one is even questioning anything about him except me.

I do realize Ecto has changed his claim, but since we cannot be certain he is lying even now, and I know that HC is scum (even if he is telling the truth about his claim which I doubt) I am still more comfortable killing him today.

DragonsofSummer · Post Post #300 (isolation #23) » Mon Aug 27, 2007 2:40 pm

I'm not so much questioning it as agreeing with ecto that HC is the better play today. I think that he is right in that since he is not mafia, and I agree with you that a jester would be preposterous, he isn't the play today. I mean think about it... unless he is lying and he is mafia, letting him live today is potentially beneficial to the town. Whereas with HC we do not know his alignment except that I got a guilty investigation on him. And with a third claim of SK I feel that there is a good chance to hit mafia if we kill him.

Also we know there is at least one roleblocker in the game, if not two depending on whether you and I were roleblocked by the same person. So if there is a pro-town roleblocker out there it would be in their benefit, as much as everyone elses to block ecto tonight. Given that I believe HC to be mafia, and we have no way of knowing if he is the last mafia in the game blocking him wouldn't be nearly as effective if he has associates left.

DragonsofSummer · Post Post #317 (isolation #24) » Wed Aug 29, 2007 9:35 am

Battle Mage wrote:hello? you've just pointed out the reason we shouldnt kill HC today-we do not know TCS's sanity for sure. If he is wrong about HC, then not only do we lose a very powerful protown power role, but also it may end up in TCS getting lynched next, which could also be wrong. Imo, we'd have to be stupid not to take the safe option and kill Ecto-scum.

BM

dahen wrote:I have some requests:

BM
: Calm down! You add nothing new. We are aware that Ecto has claimed SK.

HC
: Answer my question. I want to know who CES targetted tonight. There is no point in saving that information for tomorrow.

Alko
: Please unvote again until we are finished here. You are obviously doubting the danger of Ecto but still thinks he is the play and says HC is the play for tomorrow.

The rest of you
: Don't claim! But post! What is your view on this game with no townie roles but lots of SK roles of which one claims and says he doesn't think he can kill?

HC is investigated as scum. He has NOT claimed SK. I think he is mafia.
At this point I don't care about Ecto, since this game has had:
* two dead SK's (TCS, BT)
* one living claimed SK (Ecto)
* a mafia band (or at least the god father MBL)
* a vig (Jack)
* a living claimed one-shot vig (HC [in addition to his investigation and RB])

This could in theory have meant 6 kills N1. Do you think our mod would make that possible? Clearly there is something funny going on here.

DOS is the only claimed cop in this setup so far. He could of course be insane or paranoid, but I think it's wiser to follow his choice anyway.

I'm DOS... not TCS btw... but BM I understand your concern with my sanity, and knew it had to come up at some point... so here is what I propose, for tonight everyone tell me who they want me to investigate... preferably someone thought to be solidly in the pro-town category, and if I get a guilty verdict then we can really discuss whether or not I am sane...

Wait edit in same post... since we think there is still a mafia RB this probably won't work anyway. But without something like that I don't know how we test my sanity without actually lynching HC.

DragonsofSummer · Post Post #348 (isolation #25) » Sun Sep 02, 2007 9:12 am

Skruffs wrote:ha ha. Oh, I Thought BM was quoting from the movie.
"Is there or is there not anyone else in this house, yes or no?"
"No."
"No there IS, or no there ISN'T?"

Yes!

DragonsofSummer · Post Post #369 (isolation #26) » Sat Sep 08, 2007 7:30 am

I agree with ecto that we should try to discover who else may be scum before killing him today, and if we find someone else who is likely scum decide which is potentially worse for the town.

DragonsofSummer · Post Post #373 (isolation #27) » Sun Sep 09, 2007 9:17 am

I can clear someone from my investigation last night... do you want the rest to claim first or me to say who I investigated?

DragonsofSummer · Post Post #378 (isolation #28) » Sun Sep 09, 2007 4:38 pm

I'd like Skruffs to claim first, simply because we have heard the least from his character, and I am most suspicious of him right now just because of the fact that Ancalagon wasn't around, at all basically, and so I haven't had a chance to really get a read on the towniness of him (who is now Skruffs).

DragonsofSummer · Post Post #381 (isolation #29) » Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:26 am

I'm just saying that the possibility of a Goon is still out there, and unlike HC I am not ready to discount it completely, and so if we find another potential scum try to decide whether it is another SK or a goon.

DragonsofSummer · Post Post #388 (isolation #30) » Tue Sep 11, 2007 6:11 am

Okay, so you are claiming that you have no abilities then Skruffs?

DragonsofSummer · Post Post #393 (isolation #31) » Tue Sep 11, 2007 9:28 pm

C_D that leaves your claim, but I would like you to wait until Skruffs answers my question about him having abilities.

DragonsofSummer · Post Post #398 (isolation #32) » Thu Sep 13, 2007 8:22 am

al_kohaulec wrote:
Skruffs wrote:I am not averse to claiming. I'm Mr Boddy. I *Can* prove my role, but I am going to wait until everyone else has claimed to do so.
I haven't been reading too closely lately, so I only just now noticed your claim. How can you be Boddy if he dies at the very beginning before anything starts?

He doesn't actually die then though. He is just unconscious, and later gets killed. Also notice that in this clue game he isn't dead at the beginning like he is in one of the other ones.

DragonsofSummer · Post Post #403 (isolation #33) » Fri Sep 14, 2007 9:16 am

Okay well should I claim my target now then?

DragonsofSummer · Post Post #406 (isolation #34) » Fri Sep 14, 2007 10:12 pm

Hey thanks for the save last night C_D!

I targeted Dahen last night, and as I said earlier got an innocent result.

DragonsofSummer · Post Post #412 (isolation #35) » Sun Sep 16, 2007 3:10 pm

Happy scum day c_d!!! Are you saying you didn't target me?

DragonsofSummer · Post Post #415 (isolation #36) » Mon Sep 17, 2007 1:09 am

dahen wrote:
DoS wrote: I targeted Dahen last night, and as I said earlier got an innocent result.
Well, I knew I was innocent already.

Ecto - Would like to confirm or deny Alko's statement that you targetted CD?

Lol of course you did!

Also Al_ko is saying that Ecto, and CD targetted me last night. I was Al_ko's target if he isn't lying.

DragonsofSummer · Post Post #422 (isolation #37) » Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:17 pm

Skruffs... will you give us your proof of being who you say you are, and proof you are town aligned?

Because I have an idea for what we can do today, and for the night, to maximize our chances of winning the game tomorrow, but I can't figure out where you fit in it without you confirming your role.

DragonsofSummer · Post Post #430 (isolation #38) » Mon Sep 17, 2007 9:59 pm

I will state everything fully once I've heard from Skruffs.

DragonsofSummer · Post Post #432 (isolation #39) » Tue Sep 18, 2007 1:22 am

Okay... well here is my plan and as it turns out Skruffs will not play into it at all. We lynch Ecto today. When it goes to night, Dahen and I target al_ko, and c_d targets me. That way we basically out the last scum regardless of what I get as my night result on al_ko. If someone dies it is either Skruffs or c_d, and I have a plan for if that happens, and otherwise we win tomorrow by lynching al_ko.

DragonsofSummer · Post Post #433 (isolation #40) » Tue Sep 18, 2007 1:23 am

EBWOP:

Vote Ectomancer

DragonsofSummer · Post Post #458 (isolation #41) » Thu Sep 20, 2007 1:16 am

Skruffs why are you fosing dahen when you know he is innocent?

DragonsofSummer · Post Post #472 (isolation #42) » Thu Sep 20, 2007 5:17 pm

I investigated HC, and got a guilty verdict... it didn't say whether it was mafia or not.

DragonsofSummer · Post Post #498 (isolation #43) » Mon Sep 24, 2007 11:16 am

I still have the utmost confidence in my plan!

DragonsofSummer · Post Post #514 (isolation #44) » Sun Sep 30, 2007 6:18 pm

You wanna know the funny thing?

Vote Al_Koholic

thats whats the funny thing!

DragonsofSummer · Post Post #535 (isolation #45) » Mon Oct 01, 2007 9:20 am

I did just what I said I'd do and investigated al_ko. He came up scum.

If I had investigated Skruffs instead of al_ko and he came up innocent then I wouldn't have been as quick to vote al_ko as I was because even though c_d was 90% cleared in my eyes I would still want to look at everything again just to make sure.

Good game town... I enjoy the fact that we all did have power roles... it made the game rather interesting.