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One word noIn post 42, Selkies wrote:oh my god i didn't actually realize that what the heck
can we please vote the seal clubber now
Anyway don't see the scummy thing people are picking up about DDD through I do see that his going to hate my spelling and grammar
P:EDIT Tempted to lynch debby for being mean. That's right your new names debbyIn post 1415, fferyllt wrote:But, you have a lot of unusual textual artifacts in your writing, like you're using the grammar of a different dialect from standard American or British English.-
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1.Because the 5 pages were full of shit and I am not motivated for this game at the moment.In post 260, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
Yes, two actually.In post 258, Garmr wrote:Anyone got any questions for to get me into the game.
Why are you being a useless lump, and why does it take someone else asking you questions for you to involve yourself in the game?
2.Because Sometimes I need a kick booster and if I am not getting it don't expect much.-
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Actually I take that back These latest pages are the worst. People were at least trying to push cases now it's gone to hey lets make a town block. We should this member to the town block hmm nah take this member away. Since it has been suggested your more concerned with who's in it than actual scum hunting It's sicking.
I think I found my motivation now. Since I had two responses to my reaction test.
UNVOTE: Selkie
VOTE: Lady Lambdadelta
Her reaction is what I expect scum to do. Instead of asking me question that would challenge me and make it easier to get a read. She switches it around in a pathetic attempt to make me look scummy also Iso her.
19 post of useless fucking shit with no commitment and barely any opinions on others. This is where you votes should be at.-
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The difference was you were happy producing nill content posts till someone voted you. I have been trying to get in the game and I have been thinking about how and your response again was scummy as fuck. Trying to portray me as being in the hypocrite to prove your innocence is totally and utterly the wrong way to defend yourself.
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You know that moment when you reread and your reads change this is whats happening right now.
UNVOTE: Lady Lamb
Anyway I'm trying to do what Fferylt suggested to me after the space game (instead of looking for scum tells to look at how town can play that way.).
Quick reads update
Lady LambKaze was pretty much right in saying she is like a kettle. I was scum reading her non participation when that should of been a null but because of that she exploded into power Lamb. Her rush on Smudger seems town. Also looking back her reaction from me pushing her seems town as well. Don't like the way she tried to push me out the conversation through. If I'm a bad townie at least let me try to improve because that. anyway Null-town
Kaze- He reminds me a bit of the on the boat game. The smart arse attitude, The smug expression and the way he believes his reads are 100 percent right and if he gets a mislynch he will probably go sulk in the corner. Other than his personality flaws he has been hunting the majority of the game and he has been pushing people he believes to be scum -Town
Douche- sorry I meant Debonair Danny DiPietro I swear . Anyway when I read his post they come off as douchey and robotic like they come off with out feeling. I kinda Don't know what to make of it. The early wagon formed on him seemed meh. But I can't actually seem to point my finger on any reason why he should be town. His latter post seem more opportunistic than others like when you put post 186 and 268 Like he was waiting for the tension to die off him so he could push another wagon. scummy
This is what makes me uneasy as well the way he worded it. So I have a question for you Debby why would you want to set up a person.In post 347, Debonair Danny DiPietro wrote:In post 328, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
Let's start on the fact that we're 14 pages into the game, and you've not made a single vote.
Not interesting at all,I would've waited this long to set up a Garmr vote if he hadn't basically yelled, "hey I'm scum" earlier than I expected.
kanyeknowsbest-I have a null read on him his been asking a lot of question but really hasn't been pushing a lynch. I can see from a town perspective that gathering information day one and pressing day 2 and beyond. But also he could just be trying to look like he is trying to do work. This one looks like a time will tell but my gut instinct is telling me his leaning more to the town side
The Purple Plague- This one took me about ten minutes of reading before I decided were to place her and that is null What made me decide to put her there was her post 204. I have looked for scummy things as well and I couldn't pick anything.
Nati--I can understand having trouble getting into this game because I did. But I have to place you as null for now. Would like you to attempt getting in this game or you will drop lower.
Smudge-He is a interesting one a lot of what he is saying is appearing scummy. I don't like his post it seems to be using insults like asshole and is quite sarcastic in a way to try and discredit pressure on him. But what I really don't like is how he tries to shift the blame to other players like in post 327,350 and 373 I'm tempted to vote you but you might self hammer at L-1 so I'll keep you L-2
PlumI have her as a null at the moment can't figure out her out. Through she did vote DDD the explantion was a bit meh but it was early game and she was trying to break out of the rvs could of explained it at the time and it was done in a poor manner.
Penguin Alienone post I did like the entrance but can't get valid enough valid data from just one post null.
Walked into a ClubI had really wanted to see what cabd was on about my meta. I didn't really like the fact he didn't give one meta reason before he left through I did like the compliment about my scum game. Other than that I didn't like his vote on kaze it was meh it made me feel that if was going to use meta reads he would know that Kaze was typical kaze behaviour. Through his doing shit I think is totally wrong I can still see how he see's it from a town view point. So null-town.
Selkie-I believe she is trying to hunt. Posts 194,197 seem like genuine hunting and post 228 is something I can agree on with her. Other than that very is much to say. She seems to be wanting to get involved but she kinda ignored the event revolving around me and I am kind of interested in their opinion. I want to see if fferylt knows me as well as I think she does.
Does Bo Know-I am having a hard time reading him because he has posted so much content and I have no experience with him. He's earlier posting was just nullish to me But the latter posting especially when addressing smudge seem town to me. Through he is agreeing with Lady Lamb a lot as in his latter posts I considered if he was trying to buddy lady with his votes then I noticed 224 So I am thinking he is more likely to be town agreeing who share similar opinions with a town read. So town.
Overall verdict my top three preference for a lynch today are
1.Debonair Danny DiPietro
2.Smudge
3.Plum- This one was a tough choice as she is a null read and I was tossing up between her and nati and they are interchangeable.
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Tell me how it is tripe come on. I spent fucking 2 hours on those reading through everyones fucking isos encountering numerous dcs and you call it fucking tripe. Please that post is worth ten of yours alone because it involve more fucking effort than crying about how your being bullied and playing the victim card.-
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A majority of my reads have indications of where they are leaning to with only 4 being true null which i'm unsure of. I did how ever put kayne in the null read and then shifted him to null town at the of his read but I doubt you paid enough attention to notice that. So when you say they are all null that's pretty much misinformation as only 4/13 were true null and the other were either leaning somewhere or already there. I think you didn't actually read my post fully and just picked out the words null in them with out taking them in concept.In post 417, Smudger wrote:I don't know why people think I will self hammer. Gamr I voted you a your reads are all basically null,except for a group of 3 including myself who have figured in other peoples reads as scum.So a lot of fluff IMO to sheep others. Nicely done though.
Yes I think PA and DBK's votes on me should be looked at especially the timing and reasons given. Nati is major lurking and I question it as I continue to find this type of play strange especially when it is accepted. I have already admitted I have played this game badly. I am just a dumb seal with no PR so, other than my vote, No major loss to town. Of course my lynch is a loss and stupid of me to have taken the stand I did. If I could undo my posts I would. So you can hammer now.
The bolded part is also wrong because plum was a null read this another sign you did not read my post correctly. Also my reasoning for Debonair Danny DiPietro
is different from everyone else, your post implies that I copied my reason for my scum reads from other people yet you did not post. Through I will admit my reasoning for you is somewhat shared by other players but you pretty much been picked clean.
Also your using of the word fluff is wrong. Fluff is useless information that doesn't contribute to anything. I do tend to fluff post but that post isn't one of them as it shows my mind set and players can decide from it and pick it apart and make a case if they want to or delve deeper into one of my reads. I like it when people delve deeper into my post and question me it helps build reads on them.
Basically what I think is you just skimmed the posts and looked for a cheap excuse to jump on my wagon.-
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Ok what ever you say I think I made my point.In post 426, Smudger wrote:
Nope not at all.. still think your reads are "manufactured", I have no doubt that you will flip scum.In post 424, Garmr wrote:Basically what I think is you just skimmed the posts and looked for a cheap excuse to jump on my wagon.-
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Numbered your post so they are easier to answer.In post 429, Debonair Danny DiPietro wrote:In post 354, Kazekirimaru wrote:
Why do people keep asking this?In post 311, Smudger wrote: can someone ask me a question please..? I am feeling left out...1.Ugh, that’s brutal and I missed it on the first go around, exact same bullshit as Garmr.
In post 358, Does Bo Know wrote:Nati is probably town
I don't think scum would be so open to not lurking.A.Ahahahaha.
In post 375, Garmr wrote:This is what makes me uneasy as well the way he worded it. So I have a question for you Debby why would you want to set up a person.2.Because I think they’re scum? You were my favorite choice for scum after just your first two posts and I was waiting for you to accrue some lurker cred so I could make a push on you once the early nonsense died down instead you made an awful post with one of my favorite scumtells which meant I had to act.
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This flail is terrible.In post 198, Does Bo Know wrote:Yep. I changed my vote to appease people. You guys were suspecting me for something really stupid. So I changed my mind and went to the philosophy I usually follow instead of that other reason.
And then I got weak and decided to let out how shitty I think my scumhunting and wagon pushing really is.
The endBRelevant? Selkies is getting watch-listed at the very least.
In post 417, Smudger wrote:I don't know why people think I will self hammer. Gamr I voted you a your reads are all basically null, except for a group of 3 including myself who have figured in other peoples reads as scum. So a lot of fluff IMO to sheep others. Nicely done though.3.This seems accurate to me.
1.This is not a fucking scum tell as I have down this in my town games aswell when I feel like I lost in the game. maybe it's a scum tell for you but example example 2 Fuck I actually nearly ask this same thing in every game I start to feel lost town or scum. You should reevaluate it as a scum tell after this game.
2.So instead of pushing a player to get them to answer and apply real pressure on them. Your intentions were to wait till everyone accepted them as a lurker so you could shift your vote onto them with less question. That's scummy as fuck man.
3. I tore apart this post already why didn't you decide to quote the response I gave to smudge?
A. Even through I think DBG is null and no way should be considered town at the moment. I'll take this as you putting nati on your scum list?
B.I'm not much for those stats and stuff. It should be applied to the person and circumstance they are in. Selkie is a lot more town than you,
Quick scum points we can gather from this post.
Opportunistic- That Debby has a opportunistic mind set as proven by question 2. 1 Also shows a opportunistic stab at me even when the subject was not about me.
Buddying- I believable point three can be considered buddying up to smudge. I believe this also brings up the possibility of scum buddies.-
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Perhaps you should get real scum tells?In post 432, Debonair Danny DiPietro wrote:
Perhaps instead you should stop doing scummy things as town?In post 431, Garmr wrote:1.This is not a fucking scum tell as I have down this in my town games aswell when I feel like I lost in the game. maybe it's a scum tell for you but example example 2 Fuck I actually nearly ask this same thing in every game I start to feel lost town or scum. You should reevaluate it as a scum tell after this game.
No that's scummy. Pushing a player is better than just waiting to place a vote down on a lurker is always better as it generates more information because townies can lurk as well and you should be encouraging a town orientated environment. This waiting is also a technique used by scum to slide by a lynch and your telling me to stop doing scummy things.In post 432, Debonair Danny DiPietro wrote:
No, that's smart. Mafia isn't a game of just being right; it's about situations and applying leverage properly. I mean look at this game the first serious wagon out of RVS was always going to get big unfortunately the Smudger wagon stole the thunder I wanted to use.In post 431, Garmr wrote:2.So instead of pushing a player to get them to answer and apply real pressure on them. Your intentions were to wait till everyone accepted them as a lurker so you could shift your vote onto them with less question. That's scummy as fuck man.
I think I did tear it apart and I think your just spouting bs through all your posts. I don't see how your post are now coming from town so can you elaborate.In post 432, Debonair Danny DiPietro wrote:
Because I didn't think you tore it apart? Because I thought your defense of yourself wasn't strong and found the previous point still reasonable? Yeah, those.In post 431, Garmr wrote:3. I tore apart this post already why didn't you decide to quote the response I gave to smudge?
1.Yes being opportunistic is a negative trait.In post 432, Debonair Danny DiPietro wrote:
Yep. Wait, you think this is a negative...In post 431, Garmr wrote:Opportunistic- That Debby has a opportunistic mind set as proven by question 2. 1 Also shows a opportunistic stab at me even when the subject was not about me.
Yeah, I usually buddy players who both have no credibility with the town and are at L-1; they're the ones who can help aid me. Do you actually think before you post or do you bleat out the buzzwords as they come to you?In post 431, Garmr wrote: Buddying- I believable point three can be considered buddying up to smudge. I believe this also brings up the possibility of scum buddies.
2.Well I consider smudge scum and you scum and the buddying up is quite apparent either way it should be noted. Also a reason is to try and reinforce a counter lynch to stop your scum buddy being lynched. Your not really good at playing scum are you now.-
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Try around ten minutes each person reading here whole Iso picking out important bits except for Penguin alien she took about 2 mins tops with that one post.In post 470, Smudger wrote:In post 469, The Purple Plague wrote:Is the site back?
is it here to stay?
Smuge, What's the reasons behind both your votes?
because, I think both of those people are town, and I can't really find the reasons for any of them.
and you're entire ISO is basically active lurking.
I will answer this one first. both my votes? currently I am voting Gamr as I feel his reads are "manufactured", so he put a lot of tim into writing those reads. well not that much maybe 5 minutes TBH. read them they are all basically null, they make no real statements or are of much use. He then points at 3 people as scum, myself included. here he sheep's a scum read on players others have already stated as giving a scum vibe. Then his reaction is such that at first he is nightly pissed off then he replies with Ï have made my point" but he has not made his point IMO, all he has done is increase the feeling for me that he is scum.
But I will read through now and make further comment.
As for lurking, is that really fair, the site is like a bloody YOYO and I did post that I was in my weekend back today.-
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Kaze that's close to a trust tell with that quote so zip zip zip before we continue any further before mod shots start.In post 530, Kazekirimaru wrote:
You know, I don't think you ever actually claimed any flavor. Why's that?In post 528, Smudger wrote:
that it is it, nice.. how about you settle for scum blood, mines pretty pure to be honest, or are you into seal culling?In post 524, Kazekirimaru wrote:I want your blood on my dance floor.-
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Don't worry it might of just been in my role pm continue on ignore me.In post 535, Kazekirimaru wrote:
I honestly don't even know what you're getting at right now.In post 533, Garmr wrote:
Kaze that's close to a trust tell with that quote so zip zip zip before we continue any further before mod shots start.In post 530, Kazekirimaru wrote:
You know, I don't think you ever actually claimed any flavor. Why's that?In post 528, Smudger wrote:
that it is it, nice.. how about you settle for scum blood, mines pretty pure to be honest, or are you into seal culling?In post 524, Kazekirimaru wrote:I want your blood on my dance floor.-
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So we have two imposing wagons one built up slow and incredibly hard to lynch, while the one fast but diffused just as fast as it built. This is interesting how the two contrast.
After taking a second look my town reads are pretty much split onto both wagons while my scum reads are focused on Penguin alien.
I'm going to retract my statement about PA being the preferred lynch because even through 543.
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Something just dawned on me something I was forgetting to ask but told to shut up on and was hushed. But now I have to ask it.
Clubs Reason for voting me earlier on. This obviously cabd path as this quote.In post 290, walked into a club wrote:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=5338111In post 286, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
Why do you think he's scum?In post 282, walked into a club wrote:
Have you considered taking the advice from my username lately? VOTE: GarmrIn post 280, Garmr wrote:lol raise your amount of content because you been pushed a bit suspicious much.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=31972
compare to
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http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=31485
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=32209
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=31202
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Gives us confirmation his had little contact with Mala.In post 300, walked into a club wrote:Also mala is out with the flu so it's all cabd all the time for now.
Which means all that meta work was done by cabd alone and when I ask what his reason were he pushes me off.In post 294, walked into a club wrote:
I'll let somebody not-me explain to you why the above is incorrect.In post 292, Garmr wrote:with out reading them.
Still posting meta shit like it's a case but never actually bringing up the reasons. Does promise it for the next day but I haven't seen it. Also mala still isn't in the picture.In post 299, walked into a club wrote:
I prefer Arceus Dammit myself but you can choose your own deity. If you want a full explaination of the meta parallels, it will have to wait until tomorrow, it's bed time here. As for the motivation? I've totally gotten into 1v1s before as scum because early smokescreen rocks. You're probably a better judge of motive than me, though. The meta thing is a crutch for sucking at reading players the normal way. Don't write gamr off as a newer player incapable of doing something like an early 1v1, he's better than you might guess.In post 295, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:God fucking dammit Cabd.
Doesn't refer back to the meta he promised hasn't used any parallel's and pretended like it never existed just pushes criticisms aside.In post 616, walked into a club wrote:
You don't get to townbin me this quickly.In post 330, The Purple Plague wrote:
You really do suck as town, Cabd.In post 287, walked into a club wrote:
Really? I think I'm feeling the opposite actually.In post 284, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:You're town, and you're bad
Mentions the meta read again finally thank fuck.I have been out partying and only mala has been online from what I can tell looks like he is trying to squirm out of giving it.In post 619, walked into a club wrote:I also dislike the fact that my absence means I never gave garmr the meta case he wanted and yet past the initial dig at me there was no followup at all about it. Seems he was content to take a potshot and leave it at that.
I want explanations why your dodging it Cabd Because with out your meta your first vote was bogus with out it. So please give an explantion.-
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Wait so you are saying you voted me to test LLD did you leave any hints you were doing this aka crumbs.In post 650, walked into a club wrote:...Just dawned on you right after I mentioned it specifically you mean, garmr?
Anyways there was no meta read, sorry-notsorry about that. I was looking more to dance with LLD on one of her townreads and to see how dedicated to said read she was.-
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Hits my head against the wall. I have a sick sick mind.In post 693, The Purple Plague wrote:
Fun fact: I am moved in with Selkies. Fferyllt is my mother and orcinus the original is my father. We're a he'll of a mafia family, right?In post 682, Smudger wrote:Purple if you and Selkies touch base anymore you will need to move in...
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Probably a weird question to ask at this stage of the game But I'm kinda gathering data for future games as well.
I have a drive to beat the people who I respect on mafia scum. Strikes mean I have beat them.
Desp(Though he can be a bit grr I still respect him)
Fferyllt
Slaandar
ABR
SpyreX
Brian Skies
The list is still growing.
What is a worthwhile question Is the one I asked Cabd Because to me It could change my views on him.-
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That's ok if you support my lynch but I will show you I am town. Spins hat and puts it on top of my head... Oh I didn't mean right now but over time.In post 772, penguin_alien wrote:In post 734, Garmr wrote:
That must of killed kaze inside to type slight town read for me.
In post 740, Garmr wrote:
Basically I'm saying that kaze seemed like he was scum reading me yesterday. Also if he was part of a masonry i think those reads came from his partners and not him lol.
Funny you should say that. He was actually the one in the masonry with the strongest town read on you; that you ended up as even a slight town read was due to his influence rather than the rest of our opinions.
And 'if' he was part of a masonry? You realize he's flipped mason, Y/Y?
I want to hear more from Garmr and everyone before voting, but I wholly support his lynch.
Also that surprises me he town read me he never usually changes his opinions on people. Also can I ask why you think I am scum through maybe I can clear some of the misconception about me.-
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Nat I don't really support early claims from a vig they give town a extra lynch. Through looking at either kills I don't really see town shooting either of them.
Kaze was obvious town and plum layed in the regions of nullness and seemed to peek up near activity in the end. I felt her alignment would of shown latter on into day 2.
It kinda puzzles me.-
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