WE HAVE TO DO THE DIRTY WORK OURSELVES?
OBVIOUSLY THE LYNCH FOR TODAY
DO IT FOLKS
Restock
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In post 32, Llamarble wrote:Oh Darox, even when I was scum and you helped me win I found your shere khanceit rage-inducing.
Also using card number 3 last night made a lot of sense, and for VTs was just plain optimal (assuming scumthiefpower works on VTs).
Ludiscum is scum for nonengagement.
So yeah it's real.
Tell me your opinion of the CES / Lurconis wagons.
In post 51, Magister Ludi wrote:Hi all.
I am writing this with a heavy heart. Something deeply personal has come up in my life. I will be unable to think mafia, let alone play it, for at least the next four days, and perhaps more.
Mod, it is up to you what you do with this slot. If you want to wait on me, keep in mind that four days is a very rough guess, it could be many more, and I make no promises. I'm sorry to force you to look for a replacement like this.
I hope your hopes and prayers are with me for the next short while, guys, it's a great community here and I hope i'm able to get back as soon as possible.
Regards,
Ludi
In post 42, Llamarble wrote:I actually do like the Lurconis wagon but have been pursuing other stuff.
Ludi totally ignoring what was going on felt like he didn't want to engage in a situation that involved a buddy.
In post 43, Lurconis wrote:If you believe seraph was soft claiming why didn't he do it in his first post?
In post 58, Lurconis wrote:@GreyIce you didn't answer my question. If Seraph was going to soft claim why did he not do it in his first post? I didn't ask you why you thought he softclaimed. I understand your mistaking
a random vote comment for a soft claim. The question was if it is a soft claim why didn't he post it first, why did he lead off with
In post 44, Llamarble wrote:Zang, Spyspy, Andy feel town.
Some of LLD, Lurconis, Yos, ML are scum.
And maybe Darox, but being ridiculously anti-town / arrogant seems normal for him.
In post 69, Zang wrote:Why am I scum? I see nothing scummy about my ISO or the fact that I am Zang.
In post 71, Lurconis wrote:In post 67, SpyreX wrote:You actually thought this Luc wagon was based on a claim?
I'm thinkin its actual scum caught but we'll see. Waitin for a few things.
If you didn't think it was based on a claim why did you put me at L-2 about 5 hours after the thread opened and all I had posted was
In post 78, Lurconis wrote:Not really I think if anything there was scum on there already for it to get so high so fast. I just think it is weird he seems to think you were dense for thinking it was based off a soft claim yet he seems to think it was actually scum caught and gives no reason.
In post 124, Andrius wrote:
I see the Lurc case.
And I agree with you.
But Darox is a big shiny mafia pinata and I really want to beat it open with a stick.
CANDY FOR THE CANDY GOD
Like seriously, let's just say he's town for am argument.
Let's say he's the basest form- VT.
Meaning the only effective weapons he has are his voice and his vote.
He's using neither and actually selling out his vote- by not taking responsibility for this he's effectively trying to avoid the responsibility of actually voting people. Perhaps he'll come back in LyLo and go "WELL I JUST SHEEPED THE OTHER TOWNIES COME ON".
Nope.
Not on my watch.
In post 201, Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:I caught Lurc.
GreyICE wrote:I also note that of the people I consider the better players in this town, you only have a solid town read on LLD.
Why would there be a relation between the two?
In post 211, Fate wrote:In post 210, Darox wrote:Let's lynch GreyIce once this Lurc thing resolves.
Mhmm.
What TOWN motivation could there be to point out that "Fate's a PR" ???
Wtf is this shit
throw him in the furnace
In post 208, Yosarian2 wrote:In post 206, GreyICE wrote:Oh? You don't see the advantage of defending weak players who are generally doing nothing, and casting doubt on the strong players when the other strong players are pushing said weak players?
The player I cast doubt upon WERE the players who had basically done nothing pro-town yet this game at the time of my post. That would be you, SpyreX, and Lurconis. SpyreX is a strong player, Lurconious seems to be a weak player; I've only played with you once, I think, but my general impression is that you are somewhere in between.
Are you saying that when a strong player fails to act in a pro-town way, I should ignore it, and go after weaker players instead?
- Andrius
Mostly null; he gets some town points for some reasonable looking scumhunting.
- Fate Magister Ludi
I think I've played 4 or 5 games with Fate now, and I still don't know how to read him. That being said, I don't have any specific problems with his posts thus far. Going to put him in the null to townish range for now.
- Cogito Ergo Sum
No problems with his play thus far. He can fake scumhunting quite well as scum, though. Null-ish.
Spyrex being paranoid about me and not knowing why is probably null for him. On the other hand, "I think the person I'm voting for is town but I'm going to stay on this bandwagon (the biggest one in the game)" does not make any sense to me at all. If you think a bandwagon is probably bad, you stay the hell off if it and find a better bandwagon. All that weirdness about "I'm sticking with this wagon because don't think Serephem is bussing" doesn't make any sense, either; if you thought Serephem WAS bussing, then that'd be a GREAT reason to sheep on him. When the scum want to bus each other, what you do is you fuel up the bus, give it a tune-up, put a huge V-8 engine in that baby and hand them the keys with a smile. Ok, that analogy got a little werid, but you get my drift. "I'm going to follow this bad wagon because I don't think it's one scum bussing another" just seems so anti-town I can't wrap my head around it.
The rest of his posting is pretty thin. The one where he declares that Darox and GreyIce are both town actually does make sense to me, but Spyrex doesn't come off well here in general.
Conclusion: scummy-ish, want more data.
- LLamarble
Probably town-ish. Nightkill speculation is of course unreliable as hell, but it's a perfectly valid reason to place a day 1 vote, even when it's wrong. I also feel better about him now that he cleared up that his "secret scumtell" on me was that he didn't like the way I was going after Darox.
- Seraphim
Thinking he's probably town. His charge against Lurconis is just so ludicrously over-the-top to an almost silly degree on such thin evidence. I don't really see a scum coming out of the gate with a move like that, although it is possible.
In post 217, Fate wrote:if I was a PR how would I fake a guilty on town
In post 218, Fate wrote:I fake guilties on people that need to die anyway, because they are an obstruction to town's win con.
Clearly my guilties are on scum, sometimes they are just not mafia.
Plus I had other scum in my sights but WALP here we go again saying TOO MUCH
In post 229, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Can Fate and Grey go compare dick sizes somewhere else? We're trying to play a game of mafia here, and ONCE AGAIN, you two are distracting from the ACTUAL SCUM.
In post 226, Yosarian2 wrote:In post 224, GreyICE wrote:I have a scumread on Zang for his obstructionist walls and general attitude.
As for power role fishing, yes. Fate is definitely a power role. The scum should definitely shoot him tonight. This is very pro scum and would help their team out a lot.
Also any vigs might shoot him too.
That wasn't even your first power role fishing attempt, either.
GreyICE wrote:
It's pretty fucking clear that the Lurconis wagon is due to a fucking softclaimed PR result.
We all know that there is exactally one surviving town info role. So speculating on if something may or may not be "a softclaimed result", and getting other people to speculate on it as well, is obviously pretty darn anti-town.
Zoraster wrote:Setup Composition:
You know this setup has:at leasttwo investigative roles,at leastone protective role, a single mafia team, no third parties,at leastone town bulletproof (role PM below), andat leastone Townie. All town roles will be roles familiar to an experienced player, though mechanically modified to fit the theme.
In post 302, Seraphim wrote:Yeah, this definitely doesn't look like town Yos play.
In post 310, Llamarble wrote:UNVOTE:
No more claims until we actually want to lynch somebody. Right now I'm not sure what's behind a lot of the Yos votes.
Yos' posting has also started to add up to a lot of scumhunty stuff with solid insightfactor.
In post 315, Llamarble wrote:Grey what was your actual reason for voting Andrius?
In post 362, SpyreX wrote:This gets more words later but the leap from "there is a protective role" to "WE KNOW ANDRIUS IS A DOC" is somethin else.
In post 382, Zang wrote:A lady lambdadelta lynch is seeming much more appealing now but I'm going to wait for a votecount before I vote for her.
In post 398, Yosarian2 wrote:Motherfucker.
Well, isn't that awesome. The town is now 3 for 3 for wagons that out town power roles, since I am the tracker, and probably the only living town info role.
unvote
We are so fucked.
Only information I have is that either CES didn't do anything night 1, or else he is a scum who outbid me. Since I only used 1 point, that wouldn't have been hard. The way the tracker role works is that if I use any points, I find out what my target did if they were a town power role, but I have to spend more points then the scum do to see if they killed anyone.
Also, my role PM only talks about the scum nightkill and town power roles, so I'm pretty sure there aren't any scum power roles like scum doctor.
In post 527, Darox wrote:Except we don't have two trackers, a doctor, a cop, and a bulletproof.
In post 586, Llamarble wrote:TORRENTS OF SNOT. TORRENTS.
It was already a lot of power when it was cop tracker doctor vig bulletproof inno. Adding another tracker would make that ridiculous.
LLD claims to have tried and failed to vig lurc after announcing that intention D1, meaning either mafia wanted to prevent a kill on lurc or LLD is scum.
Lurc's move to CC Yos makes a lot of sense from a scum bulletproof trying to waste a townsourcedkill or just trading himself for Yos and neuterage of most town power.
Then there was the whole I'mma look back at whether somebody softclaimed me being scum thing and all the other stuff and this:
I actually had that clarified with Zoraster during night 0 and was told I have to outbid town power roles to track them.
Why specifically clarify :town: power roles?
LLD scum is also possible, but Lurc makes the world make sense.
Sera just going entirely back and forth with extreme conviction feels crazytown.
Fate and LLD you're both good players. Now help lynch Lurc.
In post 736, SpyreX wrote:
However, a BP day 1 AND day 2 screaming for massclaim is woosh in and of itself. "Hay guyz, lets neuter my role it'll be awesome promise!"
In post 745, Seraphim wrote:Have you ever thought that if the scum know who the BP is that it completely and totally ruins the usefulness of the role?
In post 750, SpyreX wrote:Is there a crumb or anything that can put this to rest for serious?
In post 753, Seraphim wrote:lololololol
you're cute when you're flailing.
If you honestly think I'm idiotic enough to make such an audacious move without making sure that all the pieces were in place, then you really do have your head up your ass, scrambling as hard as you can to get this to work.
In post 755, Seraphim wrote:I want to see GreyICE's blood all over this floor, his scummy, red, blood. I want to see some red flips in this topic.I had a dream where GreyICE hung and was the scum Godfather who didn't put in enough points to trump me. Turn my dream into a reality. Use your head. Someone, for the love of God, hammer.