Mini 246: Unknown Role Mafia - Mod Abandoned

[Crola]

Sorry for the lack of posting, just got back from a wedding in Virginia, for got to post on the away thread.

I sya we shouldn't speculate over roles until tomorrow b/c we don't don't know what anyone is and tomorrow something weird might happen revealing someone's role. Today we should lynch the scummiest player.

[Crola]

There are no nights in this game, as they are spent praying or sleeping. No secret communication is therefore allowed at any time, even between mafia.

To me, this sounds like the mafia knows who the other mafia is, but they can't speak with them. I know this is Unknown Role, but this rule gives me the feeling that mafia knows eachother.

[Crola]

I would just like to tell everyone that there is only one thing more annoying than tiny text,

And that, of course, would be invisible text. Amirite?

Also, does everyone agree with just voting for the person below yours' on the list on the top of page 1? And if you are on the bottom just vote for the person on the top?

Seems like the best plan to me.

The only thing worse is coded messages like so:

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[Crola]

No. If I think the day is dragging on without votes, I'll let you all know, or if one person hasn't voted I'll prod them, but otherwise people's voting or not will be kept quiet.

Out of curiosity, will there be a vote count at the end of the day and will it so who's voting for who?

Also, since everyone is voting for the person below them in an attempt for a no-lynch, shouldn't we all just vote "no-lynch"?

[Crola]

oh, i forgot to mention earlier that I put my vote in.
I would also like to point out that most roles probably are not affected by votes and some may not go into affect unless someone has a majority of votes. My guess is that most are automatic and voting will affect 0 to 3 roles at most.

[Crola]

I voted for EnderX so unless my vote got redirected, I give negative votes.

[Crola]

n_lich, patroned by Karl the Confused - 3 votes spread over each 3 days

WHat does this mean, that's what I want to know. Also, I either give out negative votes or reflect votes. Or Ender can make some votes negative which I somewhat doubt.

What does three votes over three days mean? What does patroned by Karl the Confused Mean?

[Crola]

TSAGod, what if we don't actually give negative votes and what if you're scum?

Also, condsidering that everyone seems to have a hint about their role, I'm gonna assume we all got PMs. Mine came late.

Iammars, since the scum can't kill at night, maybe their votes count for more or if two or more scum vote the same person, it doubles or somthing speacial. Or maybe if all the scum vote one person, that person dies.

[Crola]

I voted for PBug last night and got confirmation as such. Hmm... I wonder...

I've got a question. I was sent a PM right before day dawned. Was anyone else sent a PM at about that time? I think Iammars and Jentsu have gotten one, but I missed anyone else.

I just said something like that two posts up. I think everyone was supposed to get a PM before morning.

[Crola]

I voted for PBug last night and got confirmation as such. Hmm... I wonder...

I've got a question. I was sent a PM right before day dawned. Was anyone else sent a PM at about that time? I think Iammars and Jentsu have gotten one, but I missed anyone else.

I just said something like that two posts up. I think everyone was supposed to get a PM before morning.

X

What's with the x?

[Crola]

Okay, are we telling everyone our votes or keeping them secret? Also, assuming that TSA is good, should we protect people of our choice?

[Crola]

Remember you can't change your vote.

Wrong

And beaker, I think you are scum because you are following a plan that you don't even understand. It seems to me that you just want everyone to think that you are protown without even putting any thought into this game.

Yeah, Bacde, you'd be wrong about that, votes are permanent. So has anyone voted so far?

[Crola]

I voted. A prayer changer sounds like a legitamate sounding role. Whether or not it's scummy, I don't know.

[Crola]

Iamnotmers appears to be protown . . .

LOL! Best nickname EVER! I agree for now, Iammars seems to be protown but in mafia, especially one where we don't know our roles for sure, there's know way to know.

[Crola]

I would suggest everyone turn in their votes soon.

I agree, a deadline is looking quite nice right about now.

[Crola]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! NOT THE EVIL WIFOM!!!!!

WIFOM?

[Crola]

Still waiting for twilight to end. Maybe we should all place bets on when night will come. That gives us stuff to do. My guess is by Saterday. Whoever wins gets wine in front of them.

[Crola]

Still waiting for twilight to end. Maybe we should all place bets on when night will come. That gives us stuff to do. My guess is by Saterday. Whoever wins gets wine in front of them.

And if we lose?

Hah! I win! I get wine, you guys, umm, since you lost, you have to tell me everything you know about your roles. You can't argue, ou guys lost the bet fair and square.

[Crola]

I only bet on a sure thing. I'm not betting.

It's too late to back out of a deal that's already over Nai, fork over the information.

[Crola]

Hmm... Interesting. I got an amusing message last night that suggest that we all vote Iammars. Whoever sent me that message says that Iammars is scum.

What do you mean "whoever sent me that message"? You should know who sent it, there's not way to get a PM and not know who sent it.

[Crola]

I think Crola should be the only person who votes for whoever Crola votes for, as it is possible that his vote increases by one each day.

Wait, rephrase that to make it make sense.

[Crola]

I think Crola should be the only person who votes for whoever Crola votes for, as it is possible that his vote increases by one each day.

Wait, rephrase that to make it make sense.

If you were to vote for me, and then nobody else votes for me, then we can see how many votes you get.

Since your vote was part of a -1 instead of a -2, either somebody else voted for Bacde, which I don't believe I've seen, or your vote is worth more each day, making it zero today...or not. Maybe I'm missing something.

Wait, who ever said I voted Bacde?

[Crola]

I think Crola should be the only person who votes for whoever Crola votes for, as it is possible that his vote increases by one each day.

Wait, rephrase that to make it make sense.

If you were to vote for me, and then nobody else votes for me, then we can see how many votes you get.

Since your vote was part of a -1 instead of a -2, either somebody else voted for Bacde, which I don't believe I've seen, or your vote is worth more each day, making it zero today...or not. Maybe I'm missing something.

Wait, who ever said I voted Bacde?

Well, I've admitted and claimed voting for you, so there's the one -2, and you're the only other one with a previous negative vote, so ther it is.

What if I voted myself?

[Crola]

What if I voted myself?

Did you?

I'm interrogating TSA right now. I want to know why he is so sure I voted Bacde. I won't reveal my real vote until he gives me an answer.

[Crola]

What if I voted myself?

Did you?

I'm interrogating TSA right now. I want to know why he is so sure I voted Bacde. I won't reveal my real vote until he gives me an answer.

I know I voted for you.

There is one other negative vote. You are known to have that vote. I'm assuming it doesn't switch, but I'm willing to make that assumption.

Well, I did indeed vote for Bacde, but it doesn't make me any less suspicious that your role might let you look at other's votes.

[Crola]

This is a hard choice to make, but I feel I have to do it. Already posting about it today was a bad mistake. Was hoping I could play it right, but... This has turned into a silent WIFOM situation for me.

I've found I'm a cop. I sent my vote in for PBug the first night like I should have. My PM said, in essence, that he's 'safe'. I thought that meant I was the doc. But last night I voted for Iammars, thinking that, if I was the doc, I could save him in case someone else decided to attack him. However, my role PM came back saying he was "uncool" and such. This makes me believe I'm a cop and that Iammars is mafia. I'm willing to be killed tomarrow if I'm wrong and I'm a paranoid or insane cop, but tonight I'd like to see Iammars dead.

Paranoid cops only receive guilty investigations, you meant to say insane. I would love to vote for Iammars, but would that mean that I'm saving or killing him?

What's LAL?

[Crola]

bacde, pick a vote and stick with it
it's hard to keep track if you keep moving your vote around

Maybe that's his goal.

[Crola]

Okay, someone IS a vote mover. I prayed for Crola and got a result on Jentsu.

Why the hell are you trying to kill me, I'm the freaken doc!
Okay, I'm with Nai on this one, let's kill Iammars.

[Crola]

I am not trying to kill you. I'm trying to find out if your vote does increase like someone suggested. If that is the case, then I was trying to find ou who you voted to see if that person would have zero votes!

And how you know that you're the doctor is beyond me, unless everyone with negative votes is a doctor...

That and the fact that Cbob's PM said something like prey for the protection of their souls.

[Crola]

I didn't vote Iammars, considering we want to kill him.

[Crola]

Good jorb there Crola.

Let's engage in more idol small talk. Hi everyone, how's the weather? Mine is good, we are having fun. yay . . .

[Crola]

Yeah, it was cold here and got warmer today. Good job on your Chess game Iammars, everything is even.

[Crola]

considering that TSAGod wasn't even voted for, I'm officially declaring the game confusing as hell.

What just happend? It would seem the TSA was indeed good and had negative votes.

[Crola]

Also, why were people voting for me?

[Crola]

That's odd. However, I can conclude that I am not insane. I got the same response as last night, saying that Iammars is "uncool".

Well, considering our votes don't seem to work, and we don't have night choices, I don't see how we are supposed to kill anyone.

[Crola]

...huh?!? WTF.

Maybe somebody has an automatic killing ability.

Yes, I think Faly is saying that someone could be Iammars, or one of his buddies whether he knows it or not.

[Crola]

Don't look at me. I voted Crola and that got switched to Jentsu.


And I have no idea what the hell is going on. Why aren't I dead yet???

how do you know it was switched to Jentsu? For all I know your vote could be on me. I don't get pms telling me where my votes go, do you guys?

That was either really scummy Iammars, or I'm being left outside of a loop.

[Crola]

I've already resigned myself to lynch. At least, if I'm scum. I'll have the great feeling that I took down a "doctor" and wasted three cop investigations. If I'm town, I'm going to laugh at the thought of me being mafia, then feel horrible for wasting three cop investigations.

Wait a second, why did you give up last day and claim scum (inadvertantly) yet it's only now you want to tell us you were a cop? That's like when a scummy player gets called on a bluff and for some reason isn't lynched, then only the next day does he defend himself and roleclaim.
Iammars is without a doubt scum in one form or another, probably with some special ability.

I say we lynch him if we can.

[Crola]

Did anybody else, like someone with negative votes, vote for Jentsu? Because I can prove Iammars is lying/mistaken, if not... I voted for Jentsu, and he's only got a count of 1.

(Yes, I know we were supposed to vote for Iammars, but I figured at that point he had enough votes for lynch, and I wanted to try to figure out what my ability is. I know now.)

I did not vote for Jentsu, so if TSAgod was the only other one with negative votes, then Iammars would be lying unless Iammars or you (Flay) or Jentsu have some power we don't know about.

[Crola]

I'm lost and confused as are most people. I'm now certain that most scum probably have an idea who they are, my message was pretty explicit, though still somewhat obscure. So why don't the scum just claim mafia that way we can kill them and figure out the set up of this game.

[Crola]

You know what would be kind of funny? If it got down to what would be endgame, where the scum outnumber the others, but they still don't know who they are and end up killing themselves off.

So, does anyone know they're scum yet? Feel free to share if you do. We might not lynch you...

Why do you have Aylen's avatar, and what is it supposed to be?

[Crola]

I voted but not for Iammars, which means someone had two more votes on them without my help.

[Crola]

Pretty much. I think we should just go to night as fast as we can. I'll check another person, everyone else can continue to tinker with their votes. If Iammars wasn't just pulling our chain, he had no idea he was mafia. I think we're still trying to figure out who IS mafia. The mafia, too, I mean.

Anyone have a problem with my plan?

Yeah, usually scum want to get to night as fast as possible. I'm not denying that you can investigate, but I will not leave out the possibility that you could be a mafia cop. That role would actually make a lot of sense in this game.

Note to mod: Maybe you cna drop a bomb on someone, htat would really spice things up in this game. Now, I'm not saying the bomb has to kill anyone (although it would be awsome if it did) but think about it - if you dropped a bomb everyone would start talking about how cool it was tof the mod to bomb his players. Ya know, the usual flavor.

Oh, and any idiot who takes that a sign of scumminess should be smacked because it was just a suggestion to the mod.

[Crola]

Pretty much. I think we should just go to night as fast as we can. I'll check another person, everyone else can continue to tinker with their votes. If Iammars wasn't just pulling our chain, he had no idea he was mafia. I think we're still trying to figure out who IS mafia. The mafia, too, I mean.

Anyone have a problem with my plan?

Yeah, usually scum want to get to night as fast as possible. I'm not denying that you can investigate, but I will not leave out the possibility that you could be a mafia cop. That role would actually make a lot of sense in this game.

Note to mod: Maybe you cna drop a bomb on someone, htat would really spice things up in this game. Now, I'm not saying the bomb has to kill anyone (although it would be awsome if it did) but think about it - if you dropped a bomb everyone would start talking about how cool it was tof the mod to bomb his players. Ya know, the usual flavor.

Oh, and any idiot who takes that a sign of scumminess should be smacked because it was just a suggestion to the mod.

P.S. Don't bomb me.

[Crola]

Maybe, Crola. But look at the previous days. We're not getting ANYWHERE since no one seems to know about themselves! The MAFIA don't seem to know they are scum. I'd like night so I can investigate someone and try to find another mafia. To me, it seems the only option at the moment.

Still, I am reluctant to agree with any player who says "It's a good idea to get to night as soon as possible." 9/10 times that person is scum. That tenth person is usually some bored townie that is most likely inexperienced. Yes Nai, this day has been boring, but that doesn't mean we should rush it. This is partly why I hope Bob will agree with the bomb idea, that way all the lurkers come out of hiding and we get new input from people, hopefully leading to some clues.

Nai, I disagree with your previous statement also, I think by now the scum do know who they are, more or less. We all have received PMs giving us good enough clues to figure out who we are. If you haven't figured out who you are by now, you're either an idiot, or pretending to be an idiot so stop, you're not fooling anyone.

[Crola]

We all have received PMs giving us good enough clues to figure out who we are. If you haven't figured out who you are by now, you're either an idiot, or pretending to be an idiot so stop, you're not fooling anyone.

No we haven't. The only kind of PM I've ever received from the Mod was acknowledgement of my posts. I'm assuming that means I'm a townie, but I have no clue how valid that assumption is. Given the nature of the game, is it even possible that there could be actual townies out there?

Holy Crap! I forgot you were still alive! Now that's some excellent lurking right there.

Well , I guess it's only power roles that receive PMs, or roles that mess around with votes. Or, you're just feigning ignorance.

Anyway, I think Nai is looking scummy, I would vote for him, but that would only help him, so I highly recomend those who have not prayed to prey *pun intended* for Nai.

[Crola]

Wait, Crola, I give you scum, and you decide to vote me? I claim cop and get no counterclaim, and you want people to vote me? That's intelligent.

You have to keep in mind, that Iammars claimed a coplike role and mafia have in the past claimed cop and have been (obviously) able to provide the town with scum. It's called taking one for the team, I've seen it before. Like I said earlier, you could very easily be a cop, you could very easily be scum, you could very easily be both. Also, I cna only suggest the town vote you, I can't make them do it, nor do I fell like I should force them. Your motives are suspicious, the classic quick day to night plan and stating that the scum probably don't know who they are only to be corrected by the mod who said almost everyone knows who they are (which is probably everyone but EnderX ). All this makes you seems suspicious. Since we've stated many times that we have no leads, I have given us a

possibility

for who to vote for, it's not a command.

[Crola]

*waits for people to talk*
*no one does anything*
*Crola gets a voice synthesizer to sound like Changling Bob*

Changling Bob: Oh no! Because of everyone's lack of posting I have decided to drop a bomb on this game. That's right, the town heres a whistle from above and just as they look up they see it come and hit them! There's massive blood and carnage limbs and bodies litter the streets and alleyways. People shout "What did we do to deserve this?" You didn't post enough! Fortunately the bomb missed our town. It actually hit right next door. But let this be a message!

[Crola]

I've just sent out another wave of prods. Also:

Deadline: 6pm GMT Sunday.

Deadline conditions: Person with the most votes gets lynched. People who have not voted lose their vote and any ability assosiated with it.
Deadlines will also now be weekly, ie, each day will be deadlined one week from the start of said day unless more than what is currently happening happens.

That is all.

Talk about a bomb . . .

[Crola]

My vote is up for sale, as far as I'm concerned. I have no clue who to select otherwise.

How much does it cost, I got a few bucks on me right now.

[Crola]

Okay, those of you who haven't voted yet should be smacked. This is absurd, are you guys seriously gonna wait for the deadline?

[Crola]

I thought we were going for a majority on Jentsu though? Hpw can we be sure we get a majority, every vote counts.

[Crola]

I'm scum?

Fuckmuffins. =\ Now I wish I had voted Nai last night instead of Ender.

lol. How many people still have to vote?

[Crola]

You didn't know that you were scum?

Scum know who they are, it's just a strategy of feigning stupidity. I think this is even more of a reason to vote for him.

[Crola]

Crola, I'm not sure if it's a strategy to get out of votes. He KNOWS that the votes are final (save for specific people). So feigning ignorance AFTER most people say they're voting for him isn't all that intelligent. \

It saves him some votes though, you know how slow everyone in this game is to post.

[Crola]

Nai, from the sounds of it, you're paranoid. You have not received anything but guilty results. I don't think it's just luck.

[Crola]

I think Crola's insane, actually (not an insane cop, just plain crazy).

Finally, someone agrees with me!

[Crola]

Okay, this day is bogus, nothings happening since no one is talking. If we all refuse to talk, then we could at least have the decency to submit our votes.

[Crola]

Crola is sane right?

In real life or the game?

[Crola]

Crola is sane right?

In real life or the game?

No and n/a, respectively.

Lol.
As I said before, I'm the doc, hence my negative votes.

[Crola]

Wait, people dont' believe me? I swear to god, if I get even a single vote today, that person should be lynched immediately.

EnderX is good. Or "groovy", as the mod said. I swear, my spirit is on crack or something. Hippy spirit.

This both proves that I am not paranoid, nor am I insane.

That's proof enough for me.

[Crola]

I did, but that was to protect you.

[Crola]

umm, I'm not so sure what the dildo is for but I sent my vote in.

[Crola]

crap, I forgot about this game. oops, well, I already voted for this day . . . I think.

[Crola]

wait, nevermind, you bastards killed me.
Thankyou, I thought I'd never be free from this game!