Mini 14 ~ Mafia Holographica (Game Over!)
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Testing, testing, one two -
PEW PEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
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also just in case you don't like unbolded things
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I Thought it was rook-style movement with 1d to get there and then a 1d cooldown but this WAS partially to test it so we'll find out soon.-
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I think the lack of direction is mostly because everyone knows that there aren't any actual mafia yet >.>
I'd rather have the mafia game but I'd certainly keep playing if you moved it to Mish-Mash.-
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Oh surrrre, shoot at the guy who tested a game mechanic and managed to completely waste his weapon firez.
REVENGE WILL COME.-
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nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooTheButtonmen wrote: I mean who hasn't wanted to be a part of the next chess mafia.
It's kind of the reverse actually though. I'm fully expecting at leeeeast one person to be an idiot and get distracted by minor scummitude from townies and tunnel on them with bullets for a while.
...This actually didn't start out as a subtle reference to you but my subconscious might have gotten in the way.-
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so basically spark sap keeps hititng me for one damage until i either shield/block it once or heal myself for one+ points of health?-
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I don't think I can pewpew anymore until the demo is over ;_;
Also all the mishmash haters should read through these: http://www.mafiascum.net/mith/epyc/epyc.php?c=1-
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Your uncharged weapon CANNOT HARM THE INVINCIBLE GAMMA-SCUM.
Cause uh.
It's uncharged.
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If the demo isn't ending tonight for some reason-Move:Center
If it is then *shrugs*-
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If VV's whip did enough damage (and it wasn't the end of the demo) I COULD kill you even from a tile away.
Also I got distacted by GSL starcraft games and watching mythbusters.
Speaking of which I'm getting on SC in a few minutes so feel free to join me if you want to.-
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I guess I get to be the first to respond to this stupidity.
Furcolow what the fuck are you doing.
....Are you even serious. I get ninjaed by more of this.
Why the hell are you shooting at people when the game IS JUST STARTING. BOTH OF YOU.-
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Why no.
It ISN'T good odds.
The same square shit is completely irrelevent, it's 3/11 from any one person's perspective.-
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If you want to go into ridiculous square WIFOM then yeah there's pretty good odds in 1+ scum in the northwest. Aside from that I wouldn't be surprised if there were 2 scum in the northwest- if Fate's scum and thought of SQUARE WIFOMZ then I wouldn't put it past him to put every member of his team in one place, but aside from that possibility I'd say no more than 2 scum in the NW.
But MORE importantly the gunfire will still go through even at 8:59 tommorrow night. Shooting NOW when nobody's done shit is a terrible, terrible idea.
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@TBM-
A I will help with if this doesn't stop
B-C2 I doubt will actually be happening, but I would be in favor of requiring at least one other person to support your shot before you start chasing someone down- I'm fully expecting that if everyone just does whatever the hell they think is best town will lose from townvstown tunneling and OMGUS shootouts.
If you want to keep track of pseudo-votes you can go for it but I'm not expecting it to be followed rigidly.-
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Scum had a definite benefit in not choosing the same number in PYP drafts- In this the benefit is only theoretical AND pretty much relies on the scum planning for stupid townies- if I was scum and thought about pre-game placement I would just tell everyone to keep whatever placement they chose on their own to avoid being caught by this type of guesswork and because it would be optimal play assuming intelligent townies, and if you assume less than intelligent townies then your job just got a hell of a lot easier anyway.
I WILL give that it is better than going off nothing, but there absolutely should not be shots going off from that alone.
For group executions we should murder at least one person a week- if we can do it intelligently more than that is fine, but everyone spreading out their shots is just going to make it easier for scum to focus fire people down near or at endgame.
@TBM- I had a different amount of hp than the town sample PM in the demo so I doubt it.-
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TBM no offense but I would bet some pretty solid cash money that you have 10 hp for asking Vi in the first place.-
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If you really think establishing the default hp is worse than Furc and chess's early shots then I have nothing but sighs for you today Plum.-
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Chess I swear.
You look fairly town right now but you continuing to shoot almost at random is a terrible, terrible idea.-
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Fate would be pushing vezok's death even if they were both mafia TOGETHER.
(That's how bad vezok's play was in the last game we were in.)-
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Plum policy is silly. I do think that she should reveal her position by decloaking the day after a scumshot, after every scumshot however (and then recloaking if she wants). Should prevent her from avoiding the line-based scum-shot reasoning and make it so her being invisible isn't taken for granted until we realize she's shooting and we can't get a lock on where she is.
Me knowing what Fate would do is either
a)magic or
b)knowing in general what type of player he is and thus how he would react to certain situations.
I would actually be more in favor of making Furc dead than vezok right now.
Holy I am getting ninja'd so hard and am slightly more intoxicated than is helpful to deal with this.-
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okay i was about to ask if VV was just waaaaaaaaaat but inhims got this.
and here's the thing about everyone doing their own shit
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STARCRAFT ANALOGY.
assuming three scum (or actually any number>1) they WILL be able to work together a hell of a lot better than the same number of town people. If we have even 4-5 town people but they're at low-medium hp while 3 scum are alive and have high hp or are able to heal themselves they can group up, focus fire one or two people down at once, and get the hell out of there if they time it properly- they WILL have better micromanagement of players and abilities than us, and the way around that is to keep everyone at as high hp as possible except for the 1-2 people we're currently making dead.
I guess this is more relevant to later game but WEAKENING players without committing as a group and making them completely dead is a bad bad idea.-
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Cool, posts.
Furc still needs to die for that ridiculous shot and leaving immediately afterwards.
Fate can die for completely ignoring Furc on all of his scumlists.
TBM makes me a little paranoid but shouldn't be shot at yet
I can't read CKD for the life of me.
Aaaand apparently VPBaltar is stealing most of my reads. (except I think VV is more likely town than not)
As for the plan I like going A1 B3 and C2 better- still prevents any linear firing but it also ensures that at least one group is within one tile of any item drops that occur so we can use em' faster.-
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@fate-See he HASN'T. Aside from shooting at Feysal and not bothering to tell anyone why it was a good idea.-
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A mystical combination of me thinking he'd be more cautious as scum, that I'm pretty sure that he wouldn't plan to fake confusion about the mafia kill (ignorance maybe, but not confusion IMO), and that I think it's a minor towntell.VP Baltar wrote:
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Gammagooey wrote:I'm fully expecting that if everyone just does whatever the hell they think is best town will lose from townvstown tunneling andOMGUS shootouts.
Here's a tip for you.curiouskarmadog wrote:no doubt this action will bring the wraith of game....but (shrug)..the truth of my action will lie in my death.
If you know it's a stupid idea.
Then don't godamn do it.
Furc does look a little townier with his recent posts but I don't want him in LYLO.
@Plum&TBM- top two scum reads please.
Baltar you seriously need to stop having all of my ideas. and also ninja'ing me when i'm typing up these ideas.-
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It wasn't the EMP, and I think it actually might have been Plum- if it wasn't her then I'm pretty sure it was a scum hit.
I need to test something first though.
Plasma Burst: Northeast sector-
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Dear Feysal: Although your speculation may be a little helpful, it's pretty much all you've done thus far in-game. 2 top scum reads please.-
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Dear Fate: What on earth gives you such a strong town read on Feysal when his only scum reads are conditional on how an ability works?
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Oh and it's not going to matter for a bit AND it only will if Plum doesn't uncloak (and at this point I'm pretty sure she should by 9pm tommorrow)
@Vezok- in order for EMP to have a chance at hitting someone cloaked you have to fire it in a direction from where you are, not at a specific player, like I did in the demo-Gammagooey wrote:MagneticWipe(South of my position)-
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So I hinted at this earlier today but I'm pretty sure I know what type of weapon hit the northwest sector, because the plasma burst I fired at the northeast does the same amount of damage (2 hp to each person in a region). If I'm right then the flavor should confirm it by having the same type of explosion, and it ALSO means that only three people could have taken that shot- inhims, VV, and Plum. VV looks town and either him or inhims having an ability that DIDN'T remove him from the map but let's him shoot in silence seemed much less likely than Plum just shooting at them.
NOW then.
Plum needs to uncloak by the end of the day so we know she's not the one making the shots in silence. And if she confirms that she isn't the one firing then we'll figure out where to go from there.-
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1 and 2 are correct.
It has a 1 day cooldown though.
As for secret moves- a cloak that doesn't let you move around or shoot is in fact a pretty shitty cloak.-
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You have no assigned action.
If you have an EMP then fire it linearly in whatever direction you think Plum might have headed to though.-
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What is this I don't even.Feysal wrote:Oh, and I will definitely try to exploit the game mechanics any way I can. If I manage to find a way to break the game, I'll share it, but you won't be seeing me wanting to actually do it.-
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@fate-Gawd stop defending my scum reads and go help me decide between null reads, it'll be much more helpful.
inhims/TBM pick one.
@Feysal- Oh. That's actually not nearly as bad as I thought it would be. Modkilling to victory is bleh.
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Iiiii'm probably going to take it.
if anyone wants CKD/someone else to take it say so quickly please.-
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Because quickly is almost always better.
Also because if nobody said anything I was planning to pick it up around midnight or a bit before I head to bed-
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Also for those not paying attention Plum got hit with something- she was either in A1 or A3.-
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naaaah you don't get to pick it up unless you have a damn good argument for it And other people agree with it.
In addition, like 5 people have called me a townread.
Also go scumhunt some then. Nothing's stopping you from asking questions to anyone and everyone.-
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Welll let me put it this way.
You already pulled one outburst this game despite knowing that it wasn't a good decision.
Pulling another one would point pretty strongly to you faking your whining to get your way.
If you have an actual reason for thinking the module would improve your role more than mine, and think it's worth the information reveal to state the argument, then I'm more than open to hearing it.
But if you're just going to be a whiny bitch about the module without having any particular reason why you should get it then am dissallowed to give a single damn.
As a side note I've won a game as scum with YOU IN IT. your oh noes someone thought you were town is stupid.-
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Not something you need to know about.Feysal wrote: 2. vezokpiraka appears to have hit something. His EMP was supposed to cause 1 HP of damage, right? But why did it not cause damage when it hit Gammagooey?
inHims should shoot with a "melee weapon" (only hits his own region) at Plum to see if she's still there.
Someone is A1 should do the same.
If she's moved from one of those locations without posting in thread she's pretty much confirmed as scum and we can go hunting with EMPs everywhere.
ninja ninja everywhere-
@CKD- you've bitched about chess misrepping you when he was asked and explaining what posts of yours were scummy.
I will give you that this conversation is silly, because it is. Also pointless. You've asked me questions, I've answered them, and you've bitched about how I'm STOPPING DISCUSSION OH NOES.
oh lord more ninjas.
I've seen at least 3 people tell me to do this so yeah.
Pick up Module
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@Fate- Why are you shooting at VPBaltar?
@CKD-yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeepppppp. You've bitched about other people's opinions while barely having any of your own.-
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@CKD-Because I already have a read on you.
@feys-VV shot an emp at chess accidently.
I started typing up my very own Personal death list but my read on VPBaltar isn't strong enough to warrant putting Fate on it yet, and a decent portion of the reads on there were partially based on a Fate-scum assumption.
I wanna see VPBaltar post about recent shenanigans and I'll probably have a reads list before tommorrow at 9.-
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Unless she's conveniently confirming herself as scum for us she's either in A1 or A3, so don't bother.-
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VP's plan has you going east chess, but I wouldn't mind personally if you head south since there apparently a few people that should be there aren't heading over.-
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Your tantrum and ridiculous firing at chesskid gave me pretty close to the same read I have on Furc- A liability (moreso because of your low hp than actions, but still a decent bit of worry there), but more likely town than not.curiouskarmadog wrote:Gammagooey wrote:@CKD-Because I already have a read on you.
do tellGammagooey wrote:I can't read CKD for the life of me.-
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A3 is NORTHEAST btw to all you people you don't look at Vi's posts.
A is north
B is mid
C is south
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Feysal, stop rolefishing and start scumhunting. I am deadly serious about this. The ONLY way I would want a massclaim is if it was just limited to the three people that could have shot the northwest, but then that really isn't a massclaim at all.-
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if the people in A1 start firing linearly they are way way way way more likely to hit people in A1 than Plum.
Inhim should hit Plum. I'm considering using Plasma Burst to hit inhims and Plum for 2 dmg each since if Plum IS being dumb-town inhims is the next person I would shoot at from that 3 anyway.-
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Feysal you've asked about why I didn't take damage from vezok's EMP, for a massclaim, and although I'm pretty sure it actually isn't chesskid's not taking damage from VV COULD have been role stuffs. All of that is role related shenanigans that don't need to be talked about right now.
I WILL give you this much though because it's not role-related: VV could have hit chesskid with that direction shot but almost certainly missed like I did in the demo.-
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