Mini 907: Tech Tree Mafia (End Game)

MafiaSSK · Post Post #31 (isolation #0) » Tue Jan 05, 2010 1:55 pm

Netopalis wrote:Actually....

Unvote, vote: MafiaSSK

Not-so-random. A policy vote is better than a random vote.

You do realize I like to play different in every game, right?

MafiaSSK · Post Post #61 (isolation #1) » Wed Jan 06, 2010 5:37 pm

Cobalt wrote:Yeah, how about we actually hunt scum?

unvote vote chaco

Like this!

...what? One how is Chaco scum? Please state this in your way. Two, why not give a reason? Three, why jump on what seems to be a nonsensical bandwagon with no real reason? For these reasons I

vote Cobalt

MafiaSSK · Post Post #63 (isolation #2) » Wed Jan 06, 2010 5:44 pm

Cobalt wrote:
MafiaSSK wrote:
Cobalt wrote:Yeah, how about we actually hunt scum?

unvote vote chaco

Like this!
...what? One how is Chaco scum? Please state this in your way. Two, why not give a reason? Three, why jump on what seems to be a nonsensical bandwagon with no real reason? For these reasons I
vote Cobalt
funny how all three of these are the same thing.

Two and three are, one isn't. Regardless, answer it.

MafiaSSK · Post Post #65 (isolation #3) » Wed Jan 06, 2010 5:50 pm

Cobalt wrote:All three of those essentially ask why I voted.
It's because chaco's setup spec is quite bad. There was no obvious reason for town to take something besides BP last night, and there's no indication it's a bad strategy. So what if docs become useless and the mafia has to use boost? Even making the mafia's NKs that much harder to pull off is a good effect.

How is telling people why not to setup speculate speculating?

MafiaSSK · Post Post #67 (isolation #4) » Wed Jan 06, 2010 5:53 pm

Cobalt wrote:
MafiaSSK wrote:
Cobalt wrote:All three of those essentially ask why I voted.

It's because chaco's setup spec is quite bad
. There was no obvious reason for town to take something besides BP last night, and there's no indication it's a bad strategy. So what if docs become useless and the mafia has to use boost? Even making the mafia's NKs that much harder to pull off is a good effect.
How is telling people why not to setup speculate speculating?
What does that have to do with what I said?

Bolded.

MafiaSSK · Post Post #80 (isolation #5) » Fri Jan 08, 2010 5:52 pm

Juls wrote:I agree with UncertainKitty. Setup speculation needs to stop because not only are we giving away what our plans are but giving scum ideas on what they should do. So lets drop it. Saying things like "someone should go for this..." will lead to multiple people going for that. I think if everyone plays it their own way we will have a nice shakeout of abilities.

With that being said I have more town reads on people than scum reads at this point so lets discuss mafia shall we, not tech-tree.

Then actually say who you think is scum instead of just avoiding it.

MafiaSSK · Post Post #82 (isolation #6) » Fri Jan 08, 2010 6:14 pm

Juls wrote:I'm not avoiding it...I am basically telling you that I haven't found a necessarily scummy "plan" or response to any of the plans. I have, however, seen some townie things said. I don't intend on revealing who I believe is town at this point.

...It's been 4 pages. There is scummy behavior. Find it and state who you believe to have done that behavior. Actually do what you tell others to do.

MafiaSSK · Post Post #84 (isolation #7) » Fri Jan 08, 2010 6:40 pm

Juls wrote:You're not going to bully me into having a scum-read on someone. When I get them, you will be the first to know.

Explain why you are voting Chaco if you have no scum reads.

MafiaSSK · Post Post #86 (isolation #8) » Fri Jan 08, 2010 6:48 pm

Juls wrote:It was a random vote.
Unvote
.

Why had you not bothered to unvote before I had pointed it out? In fact, why not unvote your "random vote" when you had agreed it was time to start scumhunting?

MafiaSSK · Post Post #88 (isolation #9) » Fri Jan 08, 2010 6:57 pm

Juls wrote:Because I didn't think it was necessary but your point that it shouldn't be there unless I think he is scummy was noted.

Why is it then suddenly necessary when I point it out?

MafiaSSK · Post Post #90 (isolation #10) » Fri Jan 08, 2010 7:00 pm

Juls wrote:When you brought it up I said to myself "good point" and removed it...simple as that. Tell me, do you find it scummy that I did that or are you just trying to cause a distraction?

Yes, I do find it really scummy. What would I be causing a distraction about?

MafiaSSK · Post Post #92 (isolation #11) » Fri Jan 08, 2010 7:04 pm

Juls wrote:The back and forth banter appears to be a distraction and an attempt to make a mountain out of a mole-hill so to speak. Now, some may argue that this is what mafia is all about but sometimes things are simply what they are.

If you find me scummy, why aren't you voting me?

Questioning you to see if this scummy act, makes you scum.Still pondering.

So why would I need to cause this distraction?

MafiaSSK · Post Post #111 (isolation #12) » Fri Jan 15, 2010 2:24 am

I am still liking the chances of Cobalt being scum.

MafiaSSK · Post Post #132 (isolation #13) » Sun Jan 17, 2010 10:06 am

malthusis wrote:It's really hard to find solid info on to lynch in this game. The past 5 pages have been mostly setup speculation (which is mostly an null tell in my opinion), and RVS. Even though I have slight inclinations on who is scum/town, I really feel uncomfortable lynching a person such little evidence. I still haven't made up my mind on who to lynch yet, but I will definitely be deciding who to put my vote on tomorrow if nothing important happens.

Look at Cobalt.

MafiaSSK · Post Post #160 (isolation #14) » Mon Jan 18, 2010 7:31 pm

zoraster wrote: Anyway: that comes to who to lynch. I don't think Chaco is a good choice, despite how close we are to the deadline. Obviously I'd rather lynch him than no lynch today, but rereading him doesn't make him seem very scummy to me. Both Malth and SSK seem better choices for today.

Can you give reasons for every single one of these sentences? Why isn't Chaco a good choice? And why are Malt and me betteR?

MafiaSSK · Post Post #177 (isolation #15) » Sat Jan 23, 2010 3:55 pm

Vote Chaco

MafiaSSK · Post Post #179 (isolation #16) » Sat Jan 23, 2010 4:03 pm

[quote="Chaco"]Actually to start, let's flip that on it's head. Yesterday, I was almost lynched due to minor suspicioun and panicking. I really had nothing to defend against and on top of that was my V/LA. So if you would, start out by giving me something to defend against, and then we'll work from there.[/quote
Can you defend against what you can now that youare obviously not on VLA?

MafiaSSK · Post Post #184 (isolation #17) » Sat Jan 23, 2010 4:50 pm

UncertainKitten wrote:
zoraster wrote: a note? so someone sent you a note instead of inventing? that's interesting. why would that be?
Wish I knew. There are three possibilities in my mind. I don't have enough data to determine which one holds. One is very unlikely, the other two are quite probable.

I am unsure if it would be considered important. I will say I am being told to avoid lynching a certain player.

I think someone used the Message Sender ability.

MafiaSSK · Post Post #190 (isolation #18) » Sat Jan 23, 2010 4:54 pm

Chaco wrote:Could be a gambit, might be best just to treat it as null.

Or it could be an experiment to try and see the details of an ability. Message Sender is one of the more vague abilities availble.

MafiaSSK · Post Post #208 (isolation #19) » Wed Jan 27, 2010 2:48 am

So..then.

MafiaSSK · Post Post #209 (isolation #20) » Wed Jan 27, 2010 2:49 am

So..then.I really think this message for FL is just a distraction from us getting scum. This is honestly what I believe as no one has claimed sender yet.

MafiaSSK · Post Post #233 (isolation #21) » Fri Jan 29, 2010 2:49 pm

Why do you feel so strongly that I am scum?

MafiaSSK · Post Post #246 (isolation #22) » Sun Jan 31, 2010 12:05 pm

@sajin: Fair point.

MafiaSSK · Post Post #249 (isolation #23) » Mon Feb 01, 2010 1:53 am

Netopalis wrote:That's all you have to say?

Do you really want me to setup speculate?

MafiaSSK · Post Post #261 (isolation #24) » Wed Feb 03, 2010 2:28 pm

I like Fishy's reasoning for malthusius. I iso'd him found the same things plus the gerneal lurking of the game.

Vote Malt

MafiaSSK · Post Post #264 (isolation #25) » Wed Feb 03, 2010 3:53 pm

[quote="Pomegranate"]Juls has been busy in all her games, and though she could be scum, I think it makes sense to wait for a replacement.[/quote
This.

MafiaSSK · Post Post #296 (isolation #26) » Thu Feb 04, 2010 2:50 pm

Netopalis wrote:You've said that a few times now....Can you link me to the game in question? Honestly, I'm having a bit of a hard time believing it. I've tried the soft approach with him before, and it's gotten me nowhere. Also, I've read his play in other games and it seems to be roughly equivalent. Essentially, I'll believe it when I see it.

In games which I don't care about but still want to play, I have substantially worse play then games I find truly to be fun.

MafiaSSK · Post Post #297 (isolation #27) » Thu Feb 04, 2010 2:55 pm

Netopalis wrote:He made 1 post in the thread that you link me to. I really honestly can't base a judgment on it. There may be a thought process that works going on back there. For all I know, he could be the most brilliant mafia player in the history of the site. The problem is that I *can't* know that because he never makes substantial posts.

Never? Have you iso'd my posts in this game? I have made gorram substantial posts.

I don't want anybody to fail. That's why I play in a lot of newbie games and try to help people out from the start. The problem is that this is a recurring problem with SSK. He's been here since November 2007. Quite frankly, if he hasn't learned that he needs to post his reasoning in 2 years, I really don't have a lot of hope for him. Either way, this is not a newbie game, and my primary function is not to teach, it is to achieve a win for the town.

So you can at least be unbiased, instead of A. calling me an idiot noted this was in a MD thread but still and B. basically voting me for your bias against me.

MafiaSSK · Post Post #371 (isolation #28) » Mon Feb 15, 2010 5:18 pm

Tarhalindur wrote:
UncertainKitten, malthusis, zoraster, and Pomegranate are being prodded (I'll need to check which need Official Warnings). MafiaSSK has violated Rule 15 twice and has a history of needing prods; he's being force-replaced.

Edit: This is zoraster's and malthusis's second prod, so both receive Official Warnings. - Tar

Tar, this isn't fair. I haven't actively lurked in a while. I forget to send you my VLA.

If you don't send me a V/LA notice, I have no way of knowing whether or not you are V/LA. I consider this action completely fair. Now quit posting, unless you want to get hit with Rule 0. - Tar

MafiaSSK · Post Post #473 (isolation #29) » Wed Mar 03, 2010 5:33 pm

@Tar: Should I continue posting until you find a replacement for me?

MafiaSSK · Post Post #606 (isolation #30) » Thu Apr 01, 2010 4:53 am

Ellibereth wrote:
Pomegranate wrote:
Ellibereth wrote:And I = retard because my initial replacing in PoE pairing was right, then I dropped it...
I know- it scared me a bit, but I knew it wasn't much of anything.
You know I was completely serious about it, but only dropped it because of the convincing distancing....I was also serious about all the quotes I making me think people were town, but whatdya'no, people say I'm crazy.

FUNFACT: My only Tech tree ability was Message Sender and SSK was the one who used it on UK N1.

I was trying for tech victory to be honest.