Mini 907: Tech Tree Mafia (End Game)

[Ellibereth]

Heya guys. Who're we lynching?

[Ellibereth]

1 :/
Can I have a Rapid fire overview of current game state please. Thanks!

[Ellibereth]

Actually....

Unvote, vote: MafiaSSK

Not-so-random. A policy vote is better than a random vote.

Neto's town.

Vote: Neto

.

Tech Victory isn't cool, and pulling a mass tech victory would make this game nothing more than pick off the sitting ducks. Also, even if we, as a whole, decide against it. I still suspect some will go for it.

He's probably on the Tech Victory Track haha.

I agree with UncertainKitty. Setup speculation needs to stop because not only are we giving away what our plans are but giving scum ideas on what they should do. So lets drop it. Saying things like "someone should go for this..." will lead to multiple people going for that. I think if everyone plays it their own way we will have a nice shakeout of abilities.

With that being said I have more town reads on people than scum reads at this point so lets discuss mafia shall we, not tech-tree.

Juls is probably town.

I'm going to clarify as I don't want to get done in by a non-existent slip. After rereading I remember what I was saying. I was trying to get him to think like scum would as he was majorly tunneling how amazing BP was, when in fact it's almost near useless. So, I've been trying to get people to realize that every measure up there has an extreme countermeasure. So, that's it in a nutshell.

lolwut? Not sure if the slip was slip with 2 scumteams though.

I'm not sure if I fully comprehend the conditions the haiku rule takes effect in, so I'm not sure if it's going to take effect right now, but I really want to make sure we don't no lynch.

Unvote
Vote: Chaco

Let's hurry up and get our votes on someone.

Our dear Lurker!!!!...is not scum with Chaco.

Just quickly posting to avoid force-replacement.

I'll try to get to this game soon.

Actually she's probably town.

Stopped reading there. Alphaalpha scumteam is Pom Chaco right now by PoE. Finish later.

[Ellibereth]

Love how Neto blames his D1 on me. Neto, what is your definition for "tripping up" because it's quite clear to me that I was the only one with a clear cut opposition to all BP. Many disregarded it, but I do not feel as if it would be tripping up.

Jah is pretty much on me about not scumhunting, we've already been down this road on D1. It's far null. On D2, yeah, I did. Feigning activity by parroting a case on Pom...I can do it if you want.

Pom, it's because you're scum.

Still wanting a Pom lynch. Noting those veering from it.

I didn't get to Jahudo yet but Juls is nice and happy.
Anyway, sure.

Vote: Pom

[Ellibereth]

Hey. has anyone brought up Vaya/Pom scumteam yet???

[Ellibereth]

Elli: Vaya didn't interact with Pom, but looking back there is an interesting thing that Pom did. She acknowledged that the town forgot Vaya was in the game, but she didn't pressure vote her. But earlier in the game Pom acknowledged she forgot Malty was in the game, and she didn pressure vote her.

I saw, it's why I asked.
Does anyone here have any scum meta for Vaya?

[Ellibereth]

How close are we to Lylo? Activity is slow in these parts...
And I still want my Vaya meta that I'm too lazy to look up.

[Ellibereth]

Unvote

Where are Neto and Sajin?

[Ellibereth]

@Mod: Any word on SSK replacement? It's hindering my decision, I believe that speaks for others as well.

Hey, How are 'ya?

[Ellibereth]

Halllo everybody....where are you?

The Second Vote Count (aka the "Xeno Communications" Vote Count)

1) Percy, representative of the

Arcean Empire

(0) -
2) malthusis, representative of the

Drath Legion

(1) - Pomegranate
3) zoraster, representative of the

Torian Confederation

(1) - Sajin
4) UncertainKitten, representative of the

Altarian Resistance

(0) -
5) Cobalt, representative of the

Drengin Empire

(3) - Vaya, MafiaSSK, UncertainKitten
6) Sajin, representative of the

Korath Clan

(0) -
7) Chaco, representative of the

Krynn Consulate

(5) - zoraster, Cobalt, Percy, Julsmalthusis,
8) Juls, representative of the

Terran Alliance

(0) -
9) netopalis, representative of the

Dominion of Korx

(1) - Chaco
10) Vaya, representative of the

Iconian Refuge

(0) -
11) MafiaSSK, representative of the

Yor Collective

(1) - netopalis
12) Pomegranate, representative of the

Thalan Empire

(0) -

Not Voting

(0) -

This vote count worries me. I would think that at least one of team alpha was on one of the two lynches, i.e. Vaya and Juls, now FIshy and Jahudo.

[Ellibereth]

Terribad Power Outage, LA for a few days

[Ellibereth]

I have returned from floodingtreesland! All hail!
Fishy's right that my original vote analysis was crap, but Jah's was ok methinks. Neto's amnesiac behavior is in line with my town read on him. Did Pom ever finish the whole analasys of people isos thing she was doing earlier?

[Ellibereth]

Pom, why didn't you finish the player iso thingy's?

[Ellibereth]

*blinks*
I see pretty colors.
We could probably get who's NOT scum together from looking at that rainbow, but I'm too lazy to do it now.

[Ellibereth]

Pom, why didn't you finish the player iso thingy's?

Also, Chaco is prolly town going for tech victory.

[Ellibereth]

Pome's unfinished player iso's keep reminding me of Jase here: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 78#2140278

[Ellibereth]

Chacho being town only partially have to do with the tech victory thing.
Case? Nah, don't have one.
Straightforward PoE. Neto's probably town, you're probably town. Fishy, Pom, Chaco, left.
Problem there is that Pom, Chaco and Pom Fishy don't look very realistic to me, bleh.
*lightbulb*
FISHY CHACO.
Wait, I've been thinking that Chaco's town...*rant*.
brb, probably should read back around now.

[Ellibereth]

Taking a look at Jah's chart thing, assuming Chacoscum, the only realistic looking buddy is Fishy, unless I'm missing something.
So unless it's that one of my town reads are WRONG. bleh.
I'll go through it once assuming i'm wrong on each one.

[Ellibereth]

I got these 4:
Fishy Chaco
Jah Pom
Jah Neto
Fishy Jah

[Ellibereth]

Fishy, Am I missing why Jah Neto isn't likely?

[Ellibereth]

yeah scum pairings.
If all my town reads are RIGHT, it's FISHCHAC. POMCHAC is out because of the vote stuff. But I'm starting to not trust my town reads so much so I went for a straight out look at partners.
Fishy's point on NETOJAH being out is good.

Pom Jah
Fish Chac
Fish Jah

[Ellibereth]

Do you disagree with my logic?
I think you're town, but you have the ugly stain of Vaya on you.
Need to recheck JulsJah.

[Ellibereth]

Wait, DL is in 4 minutes????

VOte: Pom

HAIkus are stupid/

[Ellibereth]

Unvote

What time zone is DL? It's 6 pm for me here.

[Ellibereth]

Vaya was uberlurker, but apparently that's her meta.
I liked your play individually, I don't think scum would so openly advocate/suggest a haiku. And gut.

We both have:
Jah (Elli/Fishy)
Jah Pom

Jah vote looks better then a Pom one to me right now.

[Ellibereth]

EDIT: WTF is up with MafiaScum times not taking Daylight Savings Time into account? - Tar

I know, I had to change mine manually.

FISHCHAC and FISHJAH kinda slightly worry me, but you're right that JAHPOM looks most realistic out of the 3.

Vote: POM

[Ellibereth]

Mae = replacement in
And I = retard because my initial replacing in PoE pairing was right, then I dropped it...

[Ellibereth]

EBWOP: replacement WIN*

[Ellibereth]

And I = retard because my initial replacing in PoE pairing was right, then I dropped it...

I know- it scared me a bit, but I knew it wasn't much of anything.

You know I was completely serious about it, but only dropped it because of the convincing distancing....I was also serious about all the quotes I making me think people were town, but whatdya'no, people say I'm crazy.

FUNFACT: My only Tech tree ability was Message Sender and SSK was the one who used it on UK N1.