Mini 804 - The Resistance - Mod Abandoned

[Albert B. Rampage]

Let's do this, Leeroy.

[Albert B. Rampage]

All here. The campaign begins...

[Albert B. Rampage]

I want a set of plans.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Then start attributing the plans.

[Albert B. Rampage]

All in favor of FTF's plan?

[Albert B. Rampage]

FOS: forbiddanlight

No one pass a set of plans to her please.

[Albert B. Rampage]

O.K. so forbiddanlight basically outed herself as imperial spy.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Me, veerus, KoC. Sounds like a good start.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Me, veerus, KoC.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Forbiddenlight is an obvious spy, so anything she comes up with on her own without direct orders from the town will be immediately rejected.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Nabakov probably her russian liaison. Definitely no plans for both of them.

[Albert B. Rampage]

A disturbance in the force, you have felt. If thrown in a cage with veerus I was, safe would I feel.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to fear. Fear leads to...suffering.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Funny, because you /ined after me.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I am against Nabakov. REPICK.

[Albert B. Rampage]

How about Fishy, Veerus and Psycho?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Honestly, the BEST way to proceed is to have NO DISCUSSION, and group THREE SPIES TOGETHER.

Best case scenario they all sabotage and we have three CONFIRMED SPIES.

HOWEVER, if they can COORDINATE who is sabotaging and who isn't, then we are SCREWED.

DISCUSSION HURTS THE TOWN. FL AND NABAKOV --> EXTREMELY SUSPICIOUS.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Remember, we will know how many acts of sabotage have occurred after each plan is carried out. Scumhunting is MEANINGLESS at this stage in the game.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Btw I'm NOT aiming to group 3 spies together at this point, because Nabakov and FL have flapped their mouths far too much so its likely they have breadcrumbed their potential action already.

Let's get 3 rebels in on the plan.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Y'know how your mum always tells you "Look before you leap?" I leapt, then looked about a week later. And couldn't be arsed to flake.

Your mother, perhaps. I'll make sure to give you fair warning next time I see you sign up after me.

[Albert B. Rampage]

That's bullshit Nabakov.

The way to win, is to have two scum sabotage at the same time in a group of three. We then proceed to eliminate those three from the pool, which leaves us with 6 players, 5 of which are town. Much better odds.

[Albert B. Rampage]

4 of which are town, actually. This increases our odds. As it has been said countless times already, there is very little discussion to be had before the first draft in the first place.

[Albert B. Rampage]

*facepalm*

[Albert B. Rampage]

The way to win, is to have two scum sabotage at the same time in a group of three.

And yet you favour a proposal with yourself on it, and are supportive of going for a townie ticket. This makes no sense.

Btw I'm NOT aiming to group 3 spies together at this point, because Nabakov and FL have flapped their mouths far too much so its likely they have breadcrumbed their potential action already.

Let's get 3 rebels in on the plan.

[Albert B. Rampage]

"It is much more of a logic puzzle than Mafia, though traditional scumhunting skills should still help."

Logic > Scumhunting.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I didn't see any, but encouraging discussion when there's no need for it is scummy in and of itself.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Mod: Could the spies talk freely in the pre-game?

[Albert B. Rampage]

In my pm? In YOUR pm.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Let's go with random.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I think I'm finally agreeing that a guided proposal is best... not necessarily for getting the best chances of whatever... but for getting more information from the person giving the plans.

Also, veerus, the 56%/44% odds aren't the win percentages; it's literally just the percentage of players that are town/scum.

Do you realize that in a guided proposal you will not get any plans because of the suspicions placed on you?

[Albert B. Rampage]

I think I'm finally agreeing that a guided proposal is best... not necessarily for getting the best chances of whatever... but for getting more information from the person giving the plans.

Also, veerus, the 56%/44% odds aren't the win percentages; it's literally just the percentage of players that are town/scum.

Do you realize that in a guided proposal you will not get any plans because of the suspicions placed on you?

If I don't like FL's proposal, I can still reject it. Just because I support a

guided

proposal doesn't mean I support

forbiddan's

guided proposal.

You might as well switch to random because no one is going to follow your guided proposal.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm not crazy about giving Crazy a plan.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I ain't voting shit. Make your proposal and if I don't like it I'll vote no.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Auto reject

I don't do self noms

Quickly, scumbag.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Listen well, you big fat scummy bag of chips, you're not going to decide zip while I'm in this game. You are the most confirmed scum on the board by far, for contradiction after contradiction, hypocrisy after overreaction, and trying to get your way despite the thin veneer of democracy you try to present, which is nothing more than a nest of lies you're using to spring a plan that will achieve nothing else than frustrate the game and get our bases destroyed without any data gleaned because no one is going to take responsibility for a COMPROMISED plan decided by 9 people of which 4 are spies.

So, no thanks.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Well my beloved forbiddanlight, all you have to do is read the part of your pm where it says SCUM in big bolded letters. Thick-headed doofus, do you think I'm the only one that thinks you're scum?

[Albert B. Rampage]

I will divulge which players I deem worthy of the plans when the leadership coin passes to me. Until then, I am willing to trust players such as veerus, finding nemo and wesley snipes.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Pay attention to my words, you overgrown whale, its not in the town's interest -or mine for that matter- to let your ignorance guide the shining way to brave new waters.

[Albert B. Rampage]

We get way more information from you simply making a proposal with who you think should get the plans.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Because then we see who accepts and who declines, not just empty words. Its not anyone's turn to make a proposal but yours. So, make your proposal to the mod.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Consensus means concessions. It means scum can mess up with the choices more.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Hey blowscum, take it easy.

[Albert B. Rampage]

While I don't agree with ABR's frankly psychotic attacks in the main, I do agree that FL's flip-flop on self-nomination is extremely scummy. Therefore, I will

support any proposal that doesn't include FL or ABR.

That's really really dumb.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Hey dumbass, why do you think I'm a spy?

[Albert B. Rampage]

I think you're a spy because:

1) You try to extend the days as much as possible.

2) You contradict yourself.

3) You buddy up with other players too much

[Albert B. Rampage]

We are waiting for FL to make up her mind.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Looks like ahmadinejad finally made his move. If you accept the proposal, you help the terrorists win.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Yes, the terrorists, as in Al-Qaeda, the Iranian Islamic government, and other affiliated factions.

[Albert B. Rampage]

That would be pretty awesome actually if Forbiddanlight wasn't scum.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I swear, I really wish you'd stop confusing me for your dad. Its getting...yeah.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Your correct use of the word "manifestly" is quite impressive.

[Albert B. Rampage]

same

[Albert B. Rampage]

ewww FL was born in the same year as me *throws up*

[Albert B. Rampage]

Yeah like I said, I don't like FL or Nab. Both incredibly scummy.

Nabakov keeps pulling numbers outta his ass and presenting them as fact but I am not at all convinced. Looks like someone trying hard to look town but they're scum.

FL is the worse-looking player here, and its no secret she's on my scumlist.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Wow O.K., ortolan and FL are scum. Vote NO.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Indeed I do see a double standard. Ort blatantly tells the scum who should defect, and everyone disregards this all the while still making out Crazy to be the scummiest player.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Here, you're basically trying to pick out three townies (at least that's the current idea from what I understand). No matter whose math you use, it's obvious that odds of that are extremely low. Without any concrete information to go on (ie sabotage results), claiming you have any solid idea of who the scum are is akin to just about any other outrageous claim you can think of (like knowing who will win the next Superbowl or the World Cup). Therefore, to me, a D1 proposal is random no matter how you spin it.

Its not random if someone like ortolan (even if he's town) says that "FL should be the one to defect". This greatly favors the scum.

Therefore, we should reject the offer, come up with 3 new players, and not give the scum any ideas at all this time.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Hey guys my internet is going to be cut off soon, so I won't have regular access anymore. I assure you there was no way I could predict this happening.

Gonna have to ask for replacement

I hope you guys have a great game though. FL gonna be happy at least lol