Mini 740 - Communiqu├® Mafia 2: Game Over and the Winner is..

Juls · Thu May 07, 2009 2:42 pm

I have shared information with people Budja. There is no need to put it out for scum to see. I don't necessarily think Looker is town but if I had to believe you or him/her I would believe him because of one small thing that was said. I will explain in end game. I think you are probable scum because of (a) the buddying, (b) the process of elimination and (c) this last ditch effort to help your scum buddy(ies) with information.

Juls · Thu May 07, 2009 2:42 pm

Casey...please get off of Izzy for today. Please.

Juls · Thu May 07, 2009 2:52 pm

And if you are town, feel free to laugh and point at me for being terrible at this game. I have only felt comfortable with 1 lynch this whole game and you are it. If I am wrong, I deserve it. I reallly hate this game....(no offense dahill).

Mod: All I wanted to know was can you verify that no mistakes were made. As in you did what you were supposed to do, whether that meant straight up sending communique's or holding them all in a little stash all for your self.

Juls · Fri May 08, 2009 6:44 pm

Yeah, I am not liking that either. I oppose a mass claim.

Juls · Sat May 09, 2009 7:59 am

Screw it. I am about to out everything here in thread and give you my lynch list. This will probably get the power roles killed at night but I don't think it matters anymore. In order from least scummy to most.

1. DizzyIzzy is a watcher. Why I believe her? Her role is plausible. We had a cop, possibly a jailer (but I have my doubts), and a Hider. I am not sure what BSG was but that is all the power roles we had. I am lead to believe that she is tellin the truth for balance purposes. Also, Cybele started the codex thing. +town points. Scum would not want us to communicate that way.

2. Casey is a hider. No offense Casey but she is new at the game and I don't see her making this up. She was possibly role blocked by PhilyEc on night 1 and then on N2 I had her hide behind Coug because Rhinox was investigating Budja. I thought we could get two results out of that. If Casey died then I would know that Coug was scum. Casey didn't die so I feel like that clears Coug. Casey, please verify that your role PM says that if you hide behind scum you will die. This is the question I asked you in my night communique that got intercepted or something and I also told you to target Budja. (which I think was the gift that Budja actually got, not alignment question). She also loses her ability to hide if she sends a communique (she sent me one last night, so she didn't hide.)

3. don_johnson is a mason. Don claimed very early to me. I am lead to believe he is a protown mason simply because the mod would really screw us up otherwise and the game would be massively unbalanced. However, I could see him being scum if it were only me, Izzy, Casey, and don left.

4. Coug is a vanilla townie. If Casey's role makes her die when she hides behind scum then this could clear him. However, it is possible she was roleblocked that night by Phily again since he knew she was a hider.

5. Looker is a "villager". This is the small reason I believe him over Budja. In the original game, meme made a point to have differently named vanilla's. Now, skitzer could have looked this up so that's why it is a very small reason.

6. Budja claims to be a vanilla townie. My guess is he is a Mafia Goon.

I am sorry to town if this screws up the game. I hate this pressure of having the whole town on my back. Can we please vote Budja out now? Maybe I will win a scummy for biggest town screw up.

Juls · Sat May 09, 2009 8:01 am

Juls wrote:(which I think was the gift that Budja actually got, not alignment question).

By this I mean the interception of communique's

Juls · Wed May 13, 2009 11:51 am

Results for the night Casey/Izzy.

Casey do not lynch until we hear from everyone.

Juls · Wed May 13, 2009 12:24 pm

I am pretty sure that Budja was scum. Last night I got my package back after he was lynched. I have not got any of my packages back. I sent it to Looker in case it was repackaged with a bomb. Looker, what did you get last night? If it is a investigation of someone who is dead, please check BSG.

Juls · Thu May 14, 2009 12:11 pm

Use it on BSG...I sent it to you

Juls · Thu May 14, 2009 1:50 pm

He was able to use it during the day.

Juls · Fri May 15, 2009 12:02 pm

I thought it was a role reveal! It would have helped us to know if someone was lying. But I misunderstood.

Vote: Looker

If he isn't scum I think we lose....

Juls · Tue May 19, 2009 1:14 am

So I guess use it on Budja or Looker? I am fairly certain they were scum sense they were the only two that I got a package back on. So it might be better to have a go at PhilyEc?

So I guess I have to choose between my two most townie players? Whichever of you are scum have done a good job....I will think on this today (have to head to work now) and try to figure it out tonight.

Juls · Tue May 19, 2009 11:47 am

The most compelling piece of evidence is that Izzy claims to have targetted me on N3 and then my communique didn't go through telling Casey to hide behind Budja. Budja, by Izzy's own admission is scum. So I think Izzy is a communique watcher and possibly a communique thief, not a regular watcher. She could see all my communiques I am assuming. Izzy, nice job. I think you almost had us. Plus, she knew what everyone's roles were so she knew no one would counter her if she calimed she targetted me every night.

But Casey, if you are scum...you deserve a scummie award!

Vote: Izzy

Juls · Tue May 19, 2009 12:06 pm

Well my choices are you and Casey. You claim nobody targetted me N3. Someone clearly stole my communique. It makes sense that a scum role would be able to either see someone's communiques or see who they go to, possibly block them. You were protecting Budja I imagine. You kept me around because you were top of my town list and knew that people wouldn't go against me. And you wouldn't dare target Casey for fear of wasting a NK if she hid. Casey has done so much more IN GAME that seems protown most notably organizing the communique merri-go-round. Meanwhile you, Cybele, and magicrabit did a lot of lurking. Casey constantly communicated with me, you told me you were watcher and I heard little from you after that. Also, if I were scum, why would I take out my entire scum team via lynches instead of finishing the game days ago? I don't think LYLO is an ideal position for scum.

Juls · Tue May 19, 2009 1:04 pm

OH man.

Juls · Tue May 19, 2009 1:46 pm

I just want to know what BSG was because town did not seem to have enough power in a no reveal. I would say this statement is probably 30% bitterness....

I feel pretty damn stupid but at least my gut was right on Budja.

I also want to know what was the craziness with the N1 mystery communique.

Juls · Tue May 19, 2009 1:48 pm

also, good job casey and budja. You shouldn't discount the whole game Casey based on this one game. Most aren't quiet as frustrating (i.e. most are role reveal).

Now to write a scummy nomination...grumble grumble.

Juls · Tue May 19, 2009 1:55 pm

Why did I get some of my packages back?

Juls · Tue May 19, 2009 4:30 pm

Juls played great this game.

It's like being at the 18th hole with a one-shot lead and slicing into the rough. I hate golf but it was the first analogy that comes to mind!

Juls · Wed May 20, 2009 11:30 am

I was leaning toward you before her post. It was a really good post, I agree. I wish I had stuck to my guns when she scum slipped with her we win because we have 50% comment. I almost voted her then. I really thought your role made the most sense but you targetted me every night and there was no confirmation of you. Casey did an excellent job playing dumb townie when behind the scenes she was schemeing like crazy. I think she did an excellent job (and will get a scummy nomination when I get a chance to write one).

Juls · Wed May 20, 2009 4:08 pm

I didn't whole-heartedly believe Rhinox until his death based on Ectomancer's play so I didn't reveal too much to him...not that it mattered.

Juls · Sat May 23, 2009 6:41 am

Nominations are up if anyone wants to second:

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 31#1686731