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How many votes elects the executioner?
Maybe we should meta game and see who has the best win record for townShow-sekinj
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Well, the logical would be to just pick the person who seems the most town...Caboose wrote:
What do you suggest, then?sekinj wrote:I'm not sure that I agree with trying to defeat the "theme" part of the game...Show-sekinj
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Dang it. now you guys have me confused.
Here is MY understanding of it: The town Elects the Executioner who chooses the lynchee who gets to take one shot.
Example:
The town of Anna, Berry, Chris, Egor, and Danny vote for Anna (Vote/Elect: Anna)
Anna chooses to lynch Chris, and then Chris chooses to shoot Danny.
Result: Chris and Danny die Day 1. Anna, Berry and Egor take their chances during N1.
I think we should useVote/Electfor who we want to be the executioner,Lynchfor who we think should be lynched andShootif we want to add our two cents on who should be shot.Show-sekinj
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Actually, I don't think it shoudl be REQUIRED to state who we would kill. I was just suggesting those tags to make it clear what we are talking about. The person elected still has free rgith to choose anyone, and the person lynched has free right to choose anyone to shoot. However, it looked like people were going to make suggestion on lynches and shootings anyway, so I just proposed that way of stating it. I don't agree that everyone should HAVE to do anything except vote.Knight of Cydonia wrote:I don't like the idea of openly stating who we would kill, and as such, I refuse to do anything but vote. Scum will aready be steering the lynch, so why give them even more information to base their decision on?Show-sekinj
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I'm not sure what is bad about communicating more clearly...Knight of Cydonia wrote:I never said that I thought it was required - I merely stated it was a bad idea.Show-sekinj
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I don't trust letsbefriends as executioner... she could be trying to draw that vote by repeatedly saying she doesn't want it aka reverse psychology.Show-sekinj
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@caboose: you may agree with me, but I don't necessarily agree with you. I think that is the difference. We do agree on how to communicate, but it seems that you are more insistant that people tie themselves to another person, which I do not agree with. Let me know if I am mis-interpreting.Show-sekinj
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I don't oppose stating suspicions, but I don't think we shoudl tie the hands of the executioner either.Tovarish wrote:Why do you oppose binding?
I just don't agree with trying to defeat the theme part of any theme game. For me it falls into the category of trying to outguess the mod.Show-sekinj
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@letsbefriends: I already explained this. I'm all for input.sekinj wrote:
Actually, I don't think it shoudl be REQUIRED to state who we would kill. I was just suggesting those tags to make it clear what we are talking about. The person elected still has free rgith to choose anyone, and the person lynched has free right to choose anyone to shoot. However, it looked like people were going to make suggestion on lynches and shootings anyway, so I just proposed that way of stating it. I don't agree that everyone should HAVE to do anything except vote.Knight of Cydonia wrote:I don't like the idea of openly stating who we would kill, and as such, I refuse to do anything but vote. Scum will aready be steering the lynch, so why give them even more information to base their decision on?Show-sekinj
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No! You aren't understanding at all. I think everyone should obviously vote. Beyond that, think it would be great for people to state who they want to Lynch and/or shoot, but I don't think it should be required of each person. Once an executioner is decided that person can agree to go with the majority deicion on lynch or choose their own lynch. Then the Lynchee can choose to go with the majority on shooting, or can choose their own shooting target. Either way, the executioner will have to face the consequences of their actions. If they decided to go with the town, and a townie gets killed... well bad luck... but if they decided to go it on their own and scum gets killed... well maybe they bussed, maybe they have a good scumdar... if they decide to go on their own and town gets killed... well they are looking pretty scummy and will probably be on the chopping block next. My point is that I think information and the game should flow. I don't want to BIND myself to someone or make others BIND themselves into a death embrace. I don't think it gains us anything. In fact, if we leave it more open we may be able to gather more evidence on the person who is elected executioner.letsbefriends wrote:
What I don't understand is why you would suggest a plan that you disagree with. If you think it will hurt the town by saying who to lynch and who to shoot, shouldn't you be more focused on trying to convince people to NOT do so, rather than suggesting a better way to go about it? It seems really counter-productive to what your goal is, assuming that your goal is to not openly state who to lynch/shoot.sekinj wrote:@letsbefriends: I already explained this. I'm all for input.sekinj wrote:
Actually, I don't think it shoudl be REQUIRED to state who we would kill. I was just suggesting those tags to make it clear what we are talking about. The person elected still has free rgith to choose anyone, and the person lynched has free right to choose anyone to shoot. However, it looked like people were going to make suggestion on lynches and shootings anyway, so I just proposed that way of stating it. I don't agree that everyone should HAVE to do anything except vote.Knight of Cydonia wrote:I don't like the idea of openly stating who we would kill, and as such, I refuse to do anything but vote. Scum will aready be steering the lynch, so why give them even more information to base their decision on?
My suggestion was to use Vote/Elect, Lynch, and Shoot, in order to communicate better since it seemed liek some people were using VOTE (as in normal mafia) to vote for the scummiest person and others were using it correctly (in this game) to vote for the executioner.Show-sekinj
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I want to list who I will vote and probably lynch as well. Shoot is meh, since I probably won't care whether scummy person X is shot or lynched, just as long as they are dead, but I might use shoot to list my second most scummy suspect... or if I end up looking liek I will be lynched I will probably share my shooting target...letsbefriends wrote:You're still reeeeeeally confusing me. DoYOU, only you, want to list who you want to vote/lynch/shoot?
I agree, the more poeple that participate the better. I dont' think the excutioner should be AUTO killed if they are wrong, but the situation would bear attention.letsbefriends wrote:
But you're saying everyone should be given the option of using the vote/lynch/shoot system or not. Going with majority vote would only be best ifsekinj wrote:... if they decide to go on their own and town gets killed... well they are looking pretty scummy and will probably be on the chopping block next.everyoneparticipates rather than say, only half of everyone. For example, 5 people participate in saying who to vote/lynch/shoot, and the executioner ignores majority vote and kills someone, who flips town. Does that mean the executioner should be killed because he killed a townie? What if scum used their power in numbers to sway the lynch/shoot candidates? If not everyone is participating, it makes no sense to go with majority decision.
What do you mean by bind? By saying who you want to vote/lynch/shoot, would that be considered binding? If not, what would? You keep saying you don't want to bind yourself as if you don't want to take responsibility for it if town is on the receiving end of something bad happening.[/quoteletsbefriends wrote:I'm not too keen on the logic you're using at this point.
sekinj wrote: I don't want to BIND myself to someone or make others BIND themselves into a death embrace.
I'm talking about someone's suggestion of each person chosing one other person they would lynch until everyone has a proposed lynch and proposed executioner. I dont' like that idea. I think we shoudl all take responsibility of who we want to lynch. but I don't like the idea of each player binding to one and only one other player until it is a big death circle.Show-sekinj
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because someone may give a valid reason for not wanting to tell who they would lynch, that is their peragative, and I don't think it is an important enough issue to try to force someone to name who they would lynch and shoot. I feel that it would be best that everyone participate, but that's as far as I will take it.letsbefriends wrote:
Why say that people should have an option of giving their input or not then? Instead, you should be like, "Hey, you! Tell me who you want to vote/lynch/shoot, or I'll...umm...gnaw on your legs!", and then everyone will be scared and participate.sekinj wrote:
I agree, the more poeple that participate the better.letsbefriends wrote:
But you're saying everyone should be given the option of using the vote/lynch/shoot system or not. Going with majority vote would only be best ifsekinj wrote:... if they decide to go on their own and town gets killed... well they are looking pretty scummy and will probably be on the chopping block next.everyoneparticipates rather than say, only half of everyone. For example, 5 people participate in saying who to vote/lynch/shoot, and the executioner ignores majority vote and kills someone, who flips town. Does that mean the executioner should be killed because he killed a townie? What if scum used their power in numbers to sway the lynch/shoot candidates? If not everyone is participating, it makes no sense to go with majority decision.
No LBF, I've had the same opinion all along. if the executioner has a convincing arguemnt, then that is fine. my point was that the executioner was free to choose, and then I and others are free to judge them on that choice. I didn't write out evey single example that could happen.letsbefriends wrote:sekinj wrote: I don't oppose stating suspicions, but I don't think we shoudl tie the hands of the executioner either.
In the first post, you're saying the executioner should be able to make his own decision, to choose if he wants to follow majority or not, but in the second, you seem to be trying to urge them to go with majority or lest be faced with the wrath of the townies. I agree that you should be responsible for your actions, but your opinions seems to fluctuate a bit.sekinj wrote: if they decide to go on their own and town gets killed... well they are looking pretty scummy and will probably be on the chopping block next.
fine, it was Caboose and here is it.letsbefriends wrote:
I've reread the thread but I don't see who mentions an idea like this. Can you point it out for me?sekinj wrote: I'm talking about someone's suggestion of each person chosing one other person they would lynch until everyone has a proposed lynch and proposed executioner. I dont' like that idea. I think we shoudl all take responsibility of who we want to lynch. but I don't like the idea of each player binding to one and only one other player until it is a big death circle.Caboose in Post 25 wrote:Unvote
Enough foolishness from me.
Here's what I suggest.
We each pick a person that we would kill if elected executioner. Once we have everyone covered (everyone's got somebody that would kill them), then we play like a regular mafia game. Instead of voting for the person we want to lynch, we vote for the executioner who would kill that person.
Is that OK, or is that stupid?
I don't want to do that even for just one day.LBF wrote:It also wouldn't work as we're only playing "Elect the Executioner" for one day.Show-sekinj
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wow. it's amazing the number of people who signed up for a THEME game, but dont' understand the theme part... lack of reading is NOT GOOD.
I would vote to lynch emp, but he is probably just lazy town and not actual scum. will keep an eye on him.Show-sekinj
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yes. as well as the people before you who made the same mistake. They at least made the mistake the first couple pages though. not only did you make the mistake of voting for the person you think is scummy, you didn't even realize it was a mistake until 2 other people explained it to you. I don't understand how that can happen when we have 5 pages of discussion on this game's mechanics. It is obvious that you havn't read. Please the time now to read the game while it is short.Empking wrote:
Is that directed at me?sekinj wrote:wow. it's amazing the number of people who signed up for a THEME game, but dont' understand the theme part... .Show-sekinj
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Empking wrote:How do I not understand the THEME part.
You didn't know we were playing theMish-MashgameElect the Executionerwhen you made your vote on Caboose. So it was obvious that you hadn't read the first several pages of the game which explain and thoroughly discuss the THEMED part of this game (playing a different mish-mash game every day).
that is great. I'm glad you are catching up.Empking wrote:I read the thread.
That's why I voted Mana Ku.Show-sekinj
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Ha! oh that is funny. Are you REALLY saying that you read the game and THEN put your vote on Caboose becuase you thought he was scummy?? So you WANT to elect a scummy executioner? you are not making ANY sense.Empking wrote:In the game elect the executioner, the executed can make a vengeful game?
Catch up. I voted Mana Ku in my first post.
Lynch: Sekinj
For blatant misrepresenting.Show-sekinj
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Right. and now he is voting to lynch me because I pointed out that he should have known the game mechanics by this time, and it shoudl not have taken 2 people most of a page to re-explain it.Caboose wrote:I don't think Empking is scummy at all, his suggestion makes sense to me. He thinks that I'm scummy (I don't know why) but if I turn up town (which I will) then he puts reasonable trust in scumdar to be able to vengeful kill actual scum. He made a mistake in the mechanics and he voted for me. He should have voted for the person who would kill me.Show-sekinj
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which is one reason I never voted to lynch him. however, his continued assertion that he was never mistaken IS scummy.Caboose wrote:Being confused about the mechanics =/= scummyShow-sekinj
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*frustration*
FIRST OF ALL - I did not expand on Caboose's idea. Caboose wanted to do basically what LBF is wanting to do now. which is play like a regular game of mafia, and try to skip out on playing Elect the Executioner. I had a huge discussion with LBF about this, and I'm not sure why STILL no one understands (expecially LBF).
I do not like that idea, becuase it is defeating the "theme" part of this game (which to me falls into the category of outguesing the mod) I don't like that. INSTEAD I suggested that everyone Vote/Elect the executioner, and then GIVE INPUT on Lynch and Shoot. IF the executioner and/or Lynchee decided to do things differently than the town already decided, then we would judge that player for their actions and the merits of any arguements they make.
That woudl still keep the spirit of the game, and would give us lots of info. We have just as much chance at hitting scum as if we tried to play regular.
I signed up for MISH MASH mafia for a reason. That is what I want to play...Show-sekinj
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and where was that? I NEVER suggested this, and you KEEP saying that I did. Please stop. I suggested that people give INPUT about who to lynch and shoot. Then the executioner would choose, and we would judge from there.letsbefriends wrote:I cannot see why you are so opposed to playing a regular game of mafia when that is exactly what you suggested in the first place.
Really, as soon as we elect the executioner, they have all the power anyway about who to lynch. there is nothing holding them back from lynching whoever they want, no matter what little plan you put together. Why are you so intent on punishing others for not agreeing with you by implimenting an auto-lynch if they don't do what you want??
oh andFos: MafiaSSK{/b] for being so wishy washy.Show-sekinj
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@LBF: you seem to not realize the fact that we can't just skip the 'elect executioner' because you want too. it's the mod's game. when we vote, we are voting for an executioner, no matter what you'd rather do. If you'd rather not play a mish-mash theme game... then replace out.Show-sekinj
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why do you keep mis-representing me?letsbefriends wrote:
I've answered this in my last post.sekinj wrote:
and where was that? I NEVER suggested this, and you KEEP saying that I did. Please stop. I suggested that people give INPUT about who to lynch and shoot. Then the executioner would choose, and we would judge from there.letsbefriends wrote:I cannot see why you are so opposed to playing a regular game of mafia when that is exactly what you suggested in the first place.
they will have free reign anyway, no matter what rules you try to enforce.letsbefriends wrote:
You have said before that you prefer everyone to give input. What is the point of going through all that trouble if you want the executioner to have free reign to do whatever they want?The only difference from what I am suggesting now is that the executioner is given the OPTION of not following said majority and lynch whoever he wants. That is the only minor difference. To me, this minor difference tips the game in favor of scum, if we do elect a scum for an executioner.
I'm saying that you can't control it, however much you would liek too. So, intead, the town should jsut give as much input as possible, use their best judgement to elect a town executioner, and analyse what happens.letsbefriends wrote:
Yes, and what I am saying is that we decide as a whole that it's better for town to not do that. If everyone decides to follow it, I don't see why anyone would deviate.sekinj wrote: Really, as soon as we elect the executioner, they have all the power anyway about who to lynch. there is nothing holding them back from lynching whoever they want, no matter what little plan you put together.
How about we just try to use our reasoning abilities not elect scum? How is that so different from regular mafia? I don't see how we really have much of a choice anyway.letsbefriends wrote:
What do you mean I'm so intent on punishing others? What happens AFTER is not the issue. I was giving any answer to appease them so they would focus on the actual topic at hand. What I am asking is whether or not everyone agrees with skipping the elect an executioner stage and go straight to lynching. Skip executioner, skip chance to elect scum. That's the only thing I'm after here.sekinj wrote: Why are you so intent on punishing others for not agreeing with you by implimenting an auto-lynch if they don't do what you want??
How am I making it personal? I'm just trying to play a theme game. I don't think that playing it the way we are supposed to gives the town less information.letsbefriends wrote:How about you set aside your personal reason for not wanting to follow this and tell me if you think cutting out the executioner would help town, or hurt it.
you shoudl be glad that I am being voted for! if anything it puts me under even more scruteny. If I am elected executioner I will certainly be judged again tomorrow. Picking who to lynch by myself is not someting I am looking forward too, because even if I go with the majority I will bear the brunt of the pressure and consequences. And Maybe I will just be shot by the person lynched anyway.letsbefriends wrote:
*facepalm*Caboose wrote: I don't know about anybody else, but I'm getting some anti-town vibes from Mana Ku as stated in my FoS.
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Vote: sekinj
Hasn't done anything all game that jumps out as scummy, but my vote is subject to change.
I don't think it is any better or worse for the town on D1.letsbefriends wrote:THIS QUESTION IS ADDRESSED TO EVERYBODY:
Do you think skipping the 'elect an executioner' stage would be good or bad for town?
I do not want personal reasons. I just want you to discuss whether or not it would help or hurt town. I'm not asking if you want to go through with the plan or not.Show-sekinj
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trying to pick the towniest looking player is just as much a guesing game as trying to pick the scummiest.letsbefriends wrote:
Mmmm, what a nice neutral statement. Yay, more questions,sekinj wrote: I don't think it is any better or worse for the town on D1.
Theoretically, yes. however, in practice that is impossible. If we knew who the scum were, we wouldn't even be playing this game.letsbefriends wrote: 1) Do you think removing the possibility of scum being elected executioner would not help town?
theoretically, no. but again we don't have a choice. Yes, I think all the town SHOULD give input, and the executioner would probably be smart to go with that decision. However, if cercumstances present and the executioner decides on their own, they will face the analysis and judgement of the town for it. How is that Bad?? I feel we have just as much chance of hitting scum as we normally would on Day1.letsbefriends wrote: 2) Do you think allowing one person to decide who to lynch would be better than allowing town to decide who gets lynched by majority vote?
Please remember that there is a good chance of the worse case scenaio. We elect a town executioner, they lynch a townie who shoots a townie. then tomorrow the town is hell-bent on lynching the townie elected the day before (via whatever mish-mash game is active).
Personally, i don't think we are getting anywhere debating this. either the town is goign to give input or not. someone will be elected, and then that person will decide how they are goign to play.Show-sekinj
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and it is getting us no where. we are just creating white noise instead of actually discussing who might be scum. I'm going to shut up for a while and let others talk so i can get more of a read on people.letsbefriends wrote:
I disagree. You're answering the questions I'm asking instead of beating around the bush, sort of.sekinj wrote:
Personally, i don't think we are getting anywhere debating this.Show-sekinj
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Thank you! I was beginning to think i was going crazy.Mana_Ku wrote:If you say so .
Then lets call it not trust worthy. The game is called 'Vote the electioner'. The players vote for the player who they see as best option. This player decides who the lynch will be. Only if we're gonna do it your way, the scum will have some influence on the lynch. Or the scum will be elected with this game.
But Sekinj is right. I was wrong. Sekinj has a whole other idea then Caboose. Caboose suggests we should vote the player who wants to kill the player you want to have lynched. Sekinj suggests that we should still vote the player who we see as most pro-town, but at the same time also show who we want to see lynched and who we want to see shot.
The difference is that Caboose wants us to discuss the lynch, while Sekinj wants us to discuss the executioner, the lynch and the person shot.
Am i correct here or still not?
Yes, Caboose wanted each player to pick one other person, until everyone had someone who would lynch them. Then we supposedly vote the person who pick the person we think is scummy.
EXAMPLE: Anna chooses to lynch Bobby, Bobby chooses to lynch Charlie, Charlie chooses to lynch Dan, Dan chooses to lynch Anna. Then everyone Votes for Charlie because they think Dan is suspicious. Everyone has ONE person who will lynch them and ONE OTHER person who they will lynch. I DON'T LIKE THIS IDEA.
Instead for ease of communication I just suggested that everyone use ELECT, LYNCH AND SHOOT. So everyoneElect/Votes the person they believe is most town. AND everyone gives input on the lynches and shooting by pointing out people they wouldLYNCHandSHOOT.Show-sekinj
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@caboose: I don't see either of our ideas as "scummy". I just think yours breaks the theme part, which I would rather not do. Nothing against you at all. I'm actually dissapointed we have even discussed mechanics this long.
I also think some people need to take a refresher course on WIFOM, I don't even understand how it's been thrown around in this game.Show-sekinj
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OKay. I think we are finally understanding each other. I thought YOUR idea was more similar to Caboose's. I'm not sure where I got that stuck in my head... but I thought you wanted to have each player choose one to lynch and then the executioner couldn't change their mind afterward. so anyway I'm glad we got that cleared up.letsbefriends wrote: Ok, you keep saying I misrepresent you when I say this. Tell me if this incorrect.
Your idea: You want everyone to elect an executioner viaVote, who is to be lynched by the executioner viaLynch, and who is to be shot viaShoot.
My idea: We decide who we want to lynch viaLynch. Once everyone has given their input, we choose anyone to be an executioner and they lynch person with the majority. The executioner will not lynch anyone else.
Tell me what is different from your plan and mine. I have said many times that the only major difference would be in the executioner having the decision to change their mind and choose whoever they want to lynch, majority or not. BUT, you've said quite a couple times that you would prefer that the executioner follows majority. So ideally, following your idea, the executioner will lynch the person who we have chosen by majority, correct? So is that not a redudant step?
What also differs is having a say in who toshoot. I find that quite useless but I don't see why we can't implement it either way so I consider it a minor difference not even worth mentioning. We can still do it if everyone wants.
So tell me, why do you want to follow your idea rather than mine. So that the executioner will always have the option to ignore majority decision and kill anyone they want? You kept saying you want to play ETE and not a "regular mafia game". Are you arguing that you don't want to play a "regular mafia game" over a small bit of freedom that the executioner loses?
I'd still like everyone to answer this question; Is it more beneficial to town or to scum to give the executioner the choice to make the final decision on who to kill?
So, yes, i believe we should proceed. the differences between our ideas will basically be born out by natural play. If people want to input who to shoot, they will, which is fine. If the executioner wants to do whatever and go against the town, he/she will.Show-sekinj
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@LBF: i meant proceed as in play the game. I think it's fine for you to ask that. I, for one, already answered.Show-sekinj
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@LBF: I get tired of your questions. I think they are goign around in circles.
I don't beleive we can truely "cut the executioner step". Anyone who is elected executioner KNOWS that they have to answer to the town anyway, and that's IF they don't just get shot by the lynchee right off.
@Mod: Can I get vote count, please?Show-sekinj
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I've answered your questions a million times. I DO NOT THINK THE TOWN WILL HAVE ANY ADVANTAGE IF WE DO IT YOUR WAY. End of Story.letsbefriends wrote:
Look, I'm not asking if you think if it will or will not be possible. I'm asking if you think it will benefit townsekinj wrote:@LBF: I get tired of your questions. I think they are goign around in circles.
I don't beleive we can truely "cut the executioner step". Anyone who is elected executioner KNOWS that they have to answer to the town anyway, and that's IF they don't just get shot by the lynchee right off.if it is done. If everyone agrees that it will benefit town, that means we can decide together that that is how we should play. I'm getting tired of you trying to avoid the actual questions.
In fact you claim you are trying to cut out the influence of scum, yet you are trying so hard to get everyone to play it your way. Your previous misrep of me plus your refusal to take an answer now...you are starting to look scummy to me. not to mention your WIFOM earlier about not wanting to be executioner...Show-sekinj
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@LBF: I'm definitely not going to lynch myself, but dont' worry, I may very well be shot by whomever I decide to lynch.
@manu: all I can see right now is the discussion with LBF. I'd like to take a step back and re-evalate a bit. I'd also like to get everyone else's input on it as well.Show-sekinj
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@ EVERYONE: Please re-post who you are voting to lynch starting Now... Even if you posted it just a few minutes ago or last week, please re-post it.
Ready...
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don't be a poor sport. there are some differences in our ideas, but in practice they are almost the same. It would be a better game if everyone cares and continues playing ernestly.letsbefriends wrote:Yes, don't really care anymore.Show-sekinj
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Unless otherwise noted, I will assume that each person, if they are picked as the lynch, would shoot whomever they are voting to lynch. Please correct me if this is wrong.
Lynch count:
*OP (4) - SG, LBF, Cab, and RF
LBF (2) - OP and SSK
I'd still like to get feedback from,Tov,Ku,Emp, andLH.KoCShow-sekinj
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qft.letsbefriends wrote:But if OP is lynched, he will die.
@KoC - you are really confusing me and apparently others to the point that we are having to state things such as above which shoudl be common sense... In fact if you vote to lynch OP, that would bring him closer to death than voting to lynch yourself. because no one else is voting to lynch you. I will most likely go with the majority decision, so it just steals a vote from OP by voting yourself...Show-sekinj
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These are my thoughts on all the players. I DO PLAN to vote for lynch with the town majority. Please read this and give me your feedback, I'd also love to hear fromtov.
Caboose– Was the first to suggest an organized way to treat today, dealt with a lot of weak attacks since his idea wasn’t chosen.
Empking– his shortness of words many times causes confusion about his posts. I’m still not sure where he stands or why
Knight of Cydonia– Has had strange ideas the whole game. Was against communicating who to lynch (even though that is how regular games are set up) and then votes for himself. Very odd play. I can’t really see how it benefits scum OR town… 3rd on my scum list.
Letsbefriends– pushed her argument very hard, even after I was ready to give it up. I didn’t think it was necessary to discuss mechanics that long. I only thought she started to look scummy after she wouldn’t give it up to start scumhunting. Tied for 2nd for scummiest IMO.
lord_hur– no original ideas, but good discussion of other’s ideas and actions. Low poster, but stayed on top of the subjects.
MafiaSSK– hardly any content. None of the text in his posts is longer than the text in his signature… I don’t like this lay low attitude. Would like to see a lot more fore-thought and content in his posts. Maybe I just don't like lurkers, but he is 1st on my scum list.
Mana_Ku– throws the phrase “WIFOM” around too much for my taste. Not everything is wifom, and even then that doesn’t discount it completely. Other than that seems pro-town and willing to explore arguments in order to understand them, even if she doesn’t agree with them, which is a good balance.
orangepenguin– Yes, I’ve played with him before and I think he is a good player. But I also think he is fairly new, and needs to play on mafiascum a little longer before he can start a game without seeming like scum right off. I still can’t tell if his play is scummy or just slightly newbish. Tied for 2nd for scummiest IMO.
RestFermata– good discussion and analysis in 2 of 10 posts. Now that we are well into the game I would like to see her most recent longer posts continue.
ShadowGirl– reasonable, but seems slightly too agreeable. No personal ideas, seems to easily join the bandwagon on OP.
Tovarish– short posts, but fairly thoughtful. Not too agreeable, but not aggressive or hostile either. Seems pretty neutral.Show-sekinj
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I have to make my decision now since by my count i will be asleep when the deadline hits.
Regarding OP: not a good idea to trust a player you’ve played with before… It looks bad to even suggest it.
@OP: Even though I have played with you before and don’t think you are scummiest person, I do feel like I have a duty to the town. Also, since the only kill votes have been placed on you and LBF, I feel that it is best to lynch you, so that you (if you flip town) can help us by getting the next scummiest player, LBF. I am very sure that at least one of you are scum, but I’m not sure which.
Therefore, I pick OrangePenguin to lynch in hope that he will keep his word to shoot LBF. That was we can cut out the players that we as a town are most suspicious of being scum.
Vote / Target / Lynch: OrangePenguinShow-sekinj
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The only votes were for OP and LBG. By chosing OP I fulfilled everyone's request. It figured that LBF would be sore about it now that I (in practice) fulfilled her idea. She seems to just be lashing out at this point.
I PMed the mod my choice since he missed my post about it.Show-sekinj
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Electoral College - Choose your Attack/Defense points allocation after other players have revealed their choices. Normal powers must be chosen as well.Show-sekinj
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