The sunlight bakes the man in his underground casket. Its hot but his back remains cool. His eyes open and the sky is gone from their reflection. The sun leaves them red as he stares up at the shapes around him. The earth unwraps where it hadn't moved.
They blame the hatted man. He blames them- he steals the sun and they miss the moon, what little it does. Even her, even-
Put on a show for ingrates and see what you get. Even her even her
EVEN HER.
His skin crawls with heat. The pit in his stomach burns cold.
If they want a real show- the man has known his role since the first lie to the stars and moon trapped in her eyes.
Detinate happened at Sunday July 18 1:36 pm. You voted Ircher 28 minutes earlier.
Clidd had the next closest time at 2:21 pm. Chara actually had the latest time, so Ydrasse anf Chara definitely didn’t detonate Ircher.
But this isn’t Clidd’s writing style and you just happened to vote Ircher 28 minutes before detonate.
was 1836 here, and I normally eat around that time.
Trying to remember what the events sequence were... that sunday was hella fuckin weird... irrelevant to the game because honestly I want you to justify how a gap of 22-28 minutes points to me being online...
You seriously thought about food when Tanner and Ircher were trying to push Ircher through and wouldn’t stick around another 28 minutes to find out if it was sucessful?
In post 234, clidd wrote:It's a hemorrhagic pleasure to see so many familiar (and also unfamiliar) faces.
I've been away from MS recently, but when I saw the concept of this game in particular, I felt the desire to participate.
My energy levels, however, are still oscillating due to external factors (mood too), so I'm not sure what my activity level will be here.
Hey look, someone else has a penchant for the big words
It's almost like they have a mild fascination with a certain Benedict Cumberbatch, someone who is a performer of stage and screen... one who's diction matches how they speak...
So being a Sherlock Holmes fan somehow caused him to spell “artifacts” as “artefacts”?
I’m pretty sure on Ydrasse!town. Only thing I’m iffy on is Chara because it’s still possible it’s Clidd but in that case, it just means Chara is town, so still haven’t completely locked that down.
But writing style 100% points to Flea and ellitells clear both Ydrasse and especially Chara of Ircher detonate but 0 evidence that this is Clidd’s writing style and Ydra’s image thing probably points to Chara but it’s possible it could be a frame since Chara couldn’t seem to tell if Flea or Ydra wrote Yin flavour, so it’s still possible it’s town but it’s NOT possible Flea’s town.
There’s no evidence that Clidd writes like that and he’s the only one who was online close to Ircher detonate. I 100% think you wrote Yin flavour and not anyone else.
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Post #4957 (isolation #811) » Wed Jul 28, 2021 4:32 pm
Postby Amy Dunne »
So, I still think we do Ydra - Clidd and if game doesn’t end, Chara. I don’t care how much wifomming Flea does, I don’t believe anyone else wrote Yin flavour but fae and voting Ircher just 28 minutes before detonate is something I can definitely see scum!Flea doing because I’m not buying that fae wouldn’t have been watching the thread closely and scum hammered right after Ircher self-voted so we know scum was heavily monitoring the thread.
The sunlight bakes the man in his underground casket. Its hot but his back remains cool. His eyes open and the sky is gone from their reflection. The sun leaves them red as he stares up at the shapes around him. The earth unwraps where it hadn't moved.
They blame the hatted man. He blames them- he steals the sun and they miss the moon, what little it does. Even her, even-
Put on a show for ingrates and see what you get. Even her even her
EVEN HER.
His skin crawls with heat. The pit in his stomach burns cold.
If they want a real show- the man has known his role since the first lie to the stars and moon trapped in her eyes.
His fingers snap.
DETONATE.
14 minutes after Ircher self-voted detonate happened. No way are we yeeting Flea ever in this game.
The sunlight bakes the man in his underground casket. Its hot but his back remains cool. His eyes open and the sky is gone from their reflection. The sun leaves them red as he stares up at the shapes around him. The earth unwraps where it hadn't moved.
They blame the hatted man. He blames them- he steals the sun and they miss the moon, what little it does. Even her, even-
Put on a show for ingrates and see what you get. Even her even her
EVEN HER.
His skin crawls with heat. The pit in his stomach burns cold.
If they want a real show- the man has known his role since the first lie to the stars and moon trapped in her eyes.
In post 2894, Tanner wrote:i just noticed that yin's eye is now red. that's a nice touch.
6 townies alive. not counting amy because we cannot vote her. so practically 5 townies alive. we need to pick 4. ugh.
VOTE: tanner
i'm inclined to think tweetie's breakdowns on d3 about robert were genuine. anyone who played with scum!tweetie know if she likes doing AtE like that as scum?
and my read on pooky is now meaningless because "he doesn't let infinity die like that" doesn't age well.
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Post #4962 (isolation #814) » Wed Jul 28, 2021 4:45 pm
Postby Amy Dunne »
In post 4959, Chara wrote:i think Ydrasse could have wrote it, especially if she was trying to pretend she didn't. clidd could also have, though i find him less likely than Ydrasse. and i expected timezones to clear clidd 100% but i don't know if it actually does given the times clidd has posted this game, but don't quote me on that because i may have done the math wrong when i say clidd has posted the same time as Yin's usual posting time, and the outlier posting times also seem doable enough. the one that sticks out is one time where Yin posted at what would be 2am for clidd. but i do agree that Flea makes the most sense.
i can agree that Yin's posting doesn't look like the other examples of writing Flea's provided. problem being: Flea's arguing Yin's writing doesn't look like faer writing, as though scum writing Yin decides to write in their own writing style. wifom sure but Flea's attempts at showing how fae definitely would not write like this, specifically calling attention to the americanized spellings (color, demeanor) feels like fae did that to be able to point to later to show all these ways that it definitely was not faer.
or more likely wanted it to be noticed rather than point out faerself but the only thing that was noticed initially was the "artefact" thing, which makes me think that was unintentional.
I don’t believe anyone but Flea wrote that and Ydrasse wasn’t onsite for another 2 hours. Like you’re just making me think it is a Flea/you team now. :/
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Post #4963 (isolation #815) » Wed Jul 28, 2021 4:47 pm
Postby Amy Dunne »
In post 4961, Chara wrote:clidd/Flea team has put themself in a really bad position here. kind of wondering if i'm overthinking Ydrasse with Flea all but giving up but continuing to play, and clidd's posting today feeling like going through the motions.
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Post #4965 (isolation #816) » Wed Jul 28, 2021 4:49 pm
Postby Amy Dunne »
In post 4961, Chara wrote:clidd/Flea team has put themself in a really bad position here. kind of wondering if i'm overthinking Ydrasse with Flea all but giving up but continuing to play, and clidd's posting today feeling like going through the motions.
If it is scum distancing, then we win with your flip. But no one is going to convince me Flea didn’t write that.
The sunlight bakes the man in his underground casket. Its hot but his back remains cool. His eyes open and the sky is gone from their reflection. The sun leaves them red as he stares up at the shapes around him. The earth unwraps where it hadn't moved.
They blame the hatted man. He blames them- he steals the sun and they miss the moon, what little it does. Even her, even-
Put on a show for ingrates and see what you get. Even her even her
EVEN HER.
His skin crawls with heat. The pit in his stomach burns cold.
If they want a real show- the man has known his role since the first lie to the stars and moon trapped in her eyes.
In post 2894, Tanner wrote:i just noticed that yin's eye is now red. that's a nice touch.
6 townies alive. not counting amy because we cannot vote her. so practically 5 townies alive. we need to pick 4. ugh.
VOTE: tanner
i'm inclined to think tweetie's breakdowns on d3 about robert were genuine. anyone who played with scum!tweetie know if she likes doing AtE like that as scum?
and my read on pooky is now meaningless because "he doesn't let infinity die like that" doesn't age well.
Who makes the most sense as Ircher detonater here? Flea who voted Ircher or Clidd?
A great way to defect by voting Ircher then 28 minutes later, blowing him up?
it might be a good way to deflect, it is a little risky to wait even that long at 5 votes to elim, but i guess that's also why.
It’s possible but Flea wrote Yin flavour and fae is trying to convince us that watching Sherlock Holmes somehow causes you to write “artifacts” like “artefacts” and the eating thing fae posted. Well I literally had scum make a comparible argument in another game I was in.
Like it’s obvious scum was monitoring Ircher wagon or it would have succeeded.
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Post #4976 (isolation #821) » Wed Jul 28, 2021 5:08 pm
Postby Amy Dunne »
In post 4973, Chara wrote:i don't agree, i think in a lot of those cases where there's no path it's more like there is a path but it requires a lot of very specific things to happen and so seems impossible and/or really hard to see. also i don't know how Hectic does it but i'd say most mods would not accept a concession from anything less than all living members of the scumteam.
The sunlight bakes the man in his underground casket. Its hot but his back remains cool. His eyes open and the sky is gone from their reflection. The sun leaves them red as he stares up at the shapes around him. The earth unwraps where it hadn't moved.
They blame the hatted man. He blames them- he steals the sun and they miss the moon, what little it does. Even her, even-
Put on a show for ingrates and see what you get. Even her even her
EVEN HER.
His skin crawls with heat. The pit in his stomach burns cold.
If they want a real show- the man has known his role since the first lie to the stars and moon trapped in her eyes.
Amy solved the game, Flea scum-claimed and etc etc.
VOTE: Ydrasse
this plus the posts following between clidd and Flea looks like they know it's over but they are playing it out still/theatreing.
Well, it really doesn’t matter then if we do Ydra - Clidd - you or Ydra - you - Clidd. We win either way.
assuming you are right, yes. and i do think that's right.
and i may have been wanting Ydrasse's read on me to be right and didn't like that it wasn't. which isn't really fair and i still don't think she lies about her rl anyway.
Ydra wasn’t on-site until 2 hours later and it makes sense that scum would want to get cred for voting Ircher. But it’s besides the point because Flea wrote Yin flavour and the fact that fae is also MHTP, shows fae’s extremely impressive versatility as a writer, so that actually confirmed it for me.
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Post #5033 (isolation #828) » Sat Jul 31, 2021 10:04 am
Postby Amy Dunne »
In post 5013, clidd wrote:there are a lot of things I want to say, but for now the only consideration relevant to the game is that chara is town given the information that ydrasse is scum.
so we do chara today and me tomorrow - win
Uh no, plans have changed, I wasn’t counting on a Ydra red flip. I guess if I ever have the slightest diubt, she’s scum. \_0_/
besides the fact that flea is obvscum (unless you buy that the way flea has been playing so far comes from town) chara vs ydrasse's interactions felt like tvs
Ydra misplayed this unless Flea is her buddy and rn, I’m leaning no. Because my never yeeting Flea stance was totally predicated on either a Ydra townflip or no flip, because I just didn’t buy a Chara/Clidd team but her red flip forced us to reacess.
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Post #5043 (isolation #834) » Sat Jul 31, 2021 10:17 am
Postby Amy Dunne »
In post 5025, clidd wrote:i mean, flea has basically had a tone of debauchery since faer slot was set as universal PoE and i don't see any solving coming from fae regarding ydrasse/chara/me
most posts are performative fillers that reflect like outed scum
you probably also haven't forgotten the mechanical theory that served as an excuse for faer to avoid scumhunting/townhunting for most of the game
pedit: meh, so go ahead then
because flea has to be town for chara to be scum
I think Clidd is probably town and Ydra pocket.
But if we yeet the wrong pkayer, we lose. We now need to get two right, not just one.
I didn’t really like Chara’s you’ve given up post, because that isn’t how I read it at all.
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Post #5046 (isolation #836) » Sat Jul 31, 2021 10:27 am
Postby Amy Dunne »
In post 5036, Flea The Magician wrote:I mean I've no intention of voting at all, honestly.
I don't know who to vote for my wincon, and nobody trusts me enough to vote me.
Pooky and me both think it’s Chara but I Clidd seemed so certain she’d flip town and Ydra being Yin, makes it less likely to be you. I think they distanced. Ydra knew she’d flip before Chara and did that whole image reverse thing to convince us it was Chara.
Plus remember why 4/5 criminals are scum wifom theory? Recall Ydra insisting how “dumb” my theory was? If my theory was actually correct, it just means I had the wrong one obviously since Tanner flipped town.
If it is Chara, then scum misplayed this because Flea would probably look the worst from a Chara red flip but Chara looks the worst from a Ydra red flip.
In post 5028, clidd wrote:after reading the last two pages of flea's iso i don't see anything related to town-solving or anything i like
chara's iso is meh, but looks better than flea and its interactions with ydrasse don't seem s/s (unless you think they did ss theater)
how does ydra red flip clear chara?
chara isn't clear, but the way she and chara were arguing made me lean town!chara after a ydrasse scumflip and flea's play in general has been more compatible with scum
but as I said, I'm not imposing my read, you two are the ones who will decide not me
Flea makes way more sense as Chara buddy than Flea buddy because it looked like fae was distancing Chara but be obviously know that’s impossible but I think we do you first because you look to me like Ydra pocket.
I’m still looking for that Ydra post calling my 4/5 criminals=scum theory “dumb”. It makes me think I was onto something with that that seriously rattled her.
In post 5028, clidd wrote:after reading the last two pages of flea's iso i don't see anything related to town-solving or anything i like
chara's iso is meh, but looks better than flea and its interactions with ydrasse don't seem s/s (unless you think they did ss theater)
how does ydra red flip clear chara?
chara isn't clear, but the way she and chara were arguing made me lean town!chara after a ydrasse scumflip and flea's play in general has been more compatible with scum
but as I said, I'm not imposing my read, you two are the ones who will decide not me
Flea makes way more sense as Chara buddy than Flea buddy because it looked like fae was distancing Chara but be obviously know that’s impossible but I think we do you first because you look to me like Ydra pocket.
I’m still looking for that Ydra post calling my 4/5 criminals=scum theory “dumb”. It makes me think I was onto something with that that seriously rattled her.
In post 3110, Tanner wrote:considering that the current list of criminals is nakata/infinity/tanner/chara, i don't see how that's useful?
Yin obviously contradicted himself with that.
In post 3112, Ydrasse wrote:if yin is contradicting himself and lying i don't think we should care about the criminal thing anymore like. at this point we have no reason to reckon that it's helpful when he Killed A Confirmed Townie. basing reads on it and reaching conclusions of "one of x/y" using it as a hallmark seems really dumb and i'm sorry if that's mean but it's true
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Post #5101 (isolation #846) » Sun Aug 01, 2021 4:23 am
Postby Amy Dunne »
In post 5062, Chara wrote:Ydrasse's ISO for me points more to Flea than to clidd, at least the latter half of it during this last phase because that's all i've gone over.
clidd was hovering at the bottom of her townreads when she was pushing me/Flea, she never really interacted with him but did make a point of interacting with Flea and trying to get Flea to engage at that time. Ydrasse would know she needs to set up her partner after she flips, especially if that partner is Flea. this goes double if i was right about Nakata not being intended to flip early initially, but i don't really know that for sure besides feeling like Nakata was not trying to take a dive, at least not in comparison to how Infinity was playing.
my individual read on them both i think clidd's play is overall better equipped to actually get through endgame, but i'm still feeling like it's Flea. fae felt townier immediately after Tanner's flip but in retrospect there wasn't really a good reason for that besides now fae is posting content i can read.
i think i thought about a Ydrasse/clidd vs. a Ydrasse/Flea team already but i couldn't find it.
also @Amy - can you point me to Ydrasse pocketing clidd?
Once I wake up.
It did seem that way to me. She positioned you as scum, Flea as an unknown and Clidd as likely town. Do you think it’s possible that both Ydra and Flea could be Yin?
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Post #5102 (isolation #847) » Sun Aug 01, 2021 4:25 am
Postby Amy Dunne »
In post 5063, Chara wrote:no, Ydrasse/clidd was my best guess apparently but i don't remember why that is. but i think it had more to do with my clidd read than partner interactions between the two.
Can you link a Clidd scumgame for me? He’s the only one out of you 3, I have no experience with as scum.
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Post #5104 (isolation #848) » Sun Aug 01, 2021 4:28 am
Postby Amy Dunne »
In post 5067, Chara wrote:besides the artifact/artefact issue the other reason i was pretty sure it was Flea was because fae was insulting the Yin-poster, and going over the flaws in the writing extensively, it seemed like Flea was trying to prove fae wasn't Yin. but it could have been distancing from the partner who was Yin, which given how over the top it was seems possible.
pedit: i don't think Yin's posting looks all that much like what i've seen of Ydrasse's writing either. but i'm also not arguing it was you in the first place.
It’s possible it’s both?
What do you make of both Flea/Clidd wanting to yeet you first?
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Post #5105 (isolation #849) » Sun Aug 01, 2021 4:30 am
Postby Amy Dunne »
In post 5069, Chara wrote:Ydrasse was giving every reason not to interact with me after i started to be suspicious of her, i kept giving her a pass because it seemed like rl was the issue and i also wasn't comfortable pressing her when she was getting upset about it. i'm hoping that part was genuine stress + rl things from her end though, but it still made trying to press her on anything really hard. like i'm not sure what i'm supposed to do in that situation.
I think it’s a combination. She is very likely going through something irl but she also doesn’t really like playing scum.
Ydra misplayed this unless Flea is her buddy and rn, I’m leaning no. Because my never yeeting Flea stance was totally predicated on either a Ydra townflip or no flip, because I just didn’t buy a Chara/Clidd team but her red flip forced us to reacess.
except she didn't misplay it, evidently.
and the Kaitou Kid post searching case she did only pointed to me because i said i liked Conan myself after she posted it.
Someone should do another reverse image search to maybe check Ydra’s results because if she did it, then you’d be clear or also if they point to either Flea or Clidd.
In post 2265, Ydrasse wrote:my god i'm half-convinced that the wincon of some faction this game is to flip tanner
This kind of exasperation over Flea Tanner sr doesn’t look SvS to me.
i don't think Tanner was ever in serious danger of being flipped, so why would scum Ydrasse be genuinely annoyed there? as opposed to pretending to be.
“Annoyed” is probably not the right word , more like perplexed?
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Post #5112 (isolation #852) » Sun Aug 01, 2021 5:10 am
Postby Amy Dunne »
My main concern with Flea other then the weird Tanner votepark and only pivoting to Nakata when Infinity was at E-1, was I really felt that fae never put in a good faith effort into trying to sort Tanner. Sure it’s possible fae was seriously that tunnelled but it just looked like fae never sincerely tried to engage him. Pretty much every post prior to his flip was everything you post is scummy even when it clearly wasn’t and even when he blatantly obvtowned, faer read on him didn’t change.
And if scum didn’t actually misplay then Flea!scum is really the only scenario where that would objectively be true because of the Yin thing, because we know that Yin couldn’t possibly be either you or Clidd.
Iow, Ydra flip only helps Flea because Flea would never get flipped before Ydra in any scenario.
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Post #5114 (isolation #853) » Sun Aug 01, 2021 5:14 am
Postby Amy Dunne »
In post 5111, Chara wrote:i took a look, Ydra's results were correct for herself. i think she picked a character/series she knew she'd never mentioned before on mafiascum, and apparently actively doesn't want to watch, though that could be a lie and she just knew it wasn't mentioned. i think it's more likely she just googled something though, the references are stuff that are easy to find on his wiki page/searching general Conan facts.
Ydra was clearly aware that you liked it because she even quoted your post you made about Kaito kid from FL v Hectic, so I doubt that was a complete coincidence.
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Post #5119 (isolation #854) » Sun Aug 01, 2021 5:44 am
Postby Amy Dunne »
In post 5118, Chara wrote:she could have picked it intending the whole time to tie it to me, but it does feel unlikely? obviously if that was the case scum doesn't want to kill me or masonize me, but if i was eliminated earlier then it'd be for nothing. unless it was just as an extra benefit and she happened to think of the idea because of me, but even with the similar subject matter the jump from Kaitou Joker to Kaitou Kid is still a jump.
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Post #5158 (isolation #856) » Sun Aug 01, 2021 8:29 pm
Postby Amy Dunne »
I tyink it’s extremely important that whichever two of you are town, don’t auto assume who’s scum but be opej to the possibility that you could be wrong.
Like I agree Chara looks very good rn but it also is experiencing no pressure here from either Clidd or Flea and if both of you are town, we won’t be able to tell if Chara receives no pressure from either of you. It will be a lot easier to accurately evaluate Chara if it can’t just easily coast.
Like Robert played extemely scummy but he wound up flipping town. Chara may still be town but sonlong as it experiences 0 pressure from either Clidd or Flea, it’s really hard to be certain.
In post 5159, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:im ok with chara picking out who is town between clidd/flea and yeeting that one first so the other can properly play the game.
i am doing my best and i will keep doing that but having me choose to eliminate today by myself is ridiculous if that's what you mean, i don't trust my reads that much. tell me what you think of what i've done so far, i've said why i think clidd is town.
and @Amy - when you say Ydrasse pocketing clidd, do you mean her townread on him or something specific?
Well her progression on him looks kind’ve like a pocket. First she seems to sr him and gradually comes to tr him, where as in Nancy v Titus, she wrongly tunnelled him until she was NK’d.
@Chara I would really love for you to be town here, because Pooky is completely paranoid of you but I think you misunderstood what I mean by pressure. I mean that with both Clidd and Flea hard sr the other, neither is putting any pressure on you, which is why if we lim correctly between Clidd/Flea, then the surviving slot and you will be forced to 1v1, which I don’t see happening before that.
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Post #5181 (isolation #859) » Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:11 am
Postby Amy Dunne »
In post 5159, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:im ok with chara picking out who is town between clidd/flea and yeeting that one first so the other can properly play the game.
