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In post 700, Xtoxm wrote:A quick announcement that we've got everything we need, and i'm happy to continue running the game.As confirmation, I will still be the co/backup for this game. For the sake of convenience, Xtoxm will be maintaining the majority of the thread management and should absolutely be your first point of contact if you have questions, but feel free to CC me and I will respond if I am available first.This is a Parachute.-
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In post 1298, Korina wrote:@mod can you please spoil the images in 1286 for all of our sakes?Done. As a reminder, please use the spoiler= tags with any post containing large numbers or sizes of media. Thank you.This is a Parachute.-
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Spoiler: Setup Information
Unfortunately, it is impossible to link the setup review as Krazy has sole ownership of that PT. If you have questions about design philosophy, I'm happy to try to answer them.
We set out with a stated goal that the setup not be finished before D3, and we succeeded in that goal.Last edited by Jingle on Thu Mar 18, 2021 1:09 pm, edited 1 time in total.This is a Parachute.-
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They actually shot mastina directly night 1.In post 1981, jjh927 wrote:Honestly, you tried too hard to kill meThis is a Parachute.-
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Not really. You confirm that Rathe makes anyone who targets him unable to act the next day. There's no particular reason that can't be a scum role.In post 1992, Battle Mage wrote:
lol of course it does.In post 1989, jjh927 wrote:Nah, rolecop doesn't take anyone out of the POE
if i target Rathe, I have to confirm the player is town.
I disagree that a town rolecop doesn't have a reason to target jj there, too, because no one else was being particularly squirrelly about their roles and there's always a chance knowing his role let you help with whatever gambit he was running.This is a Parachute.-
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Pfffft. Xtom did 99% of the work. I'm just here for that sick credit.In post 1969, Alisae wrote:xtoxm and jingle were poggers
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Yeah, scum lost this game because their tentpole went down on D1 -> the 1-shot cop getting a guilty N1 -> one of the neutral utility roles gambiting into a guilty D3.
Without all three of those it was an intensely hard uphill battle but still theoretically winnable if you managed to off Raya pretty early.
I don't think the scum team played poorly, persay (with the exception of fuzzy not claiming I think you guys actually played a pretty solid game) but especially with role madness there's a big chance that the perfect storm of actions just flattens a team, and it didn't help that you lacked the motivation and synergy to weather that storm.
I will say I was super impressed by jj turning what was a largely useless role into a mechanical guilty.This is a Parachute.-
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Goddammit, Noraa. Don't ever change.In post 2044, Noraa wrote:wait you were scum?
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In post 2049, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:Also Jingle is banned indefinitely from my games......You know what you didFuzzy has been turned into a Laser-Headed Shark in the postgame. He still loses though.
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You already actually got a picture of the animal from me. Just be glad I couldn't think of a cheeky alternative to a leopard.In post 2057, Noraa wrote:I would like my flavor pictures redone too. I think they aren't fluffy enough.
Raya's was pretty close to being a picture of an Ethiopian drug bush and mastina got a picture of Arizona.This is a Parachute.-
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It was requested that we keep it redacted.In post 2106, WhemeStar wrote:Is mafia pt released yet?This is a Parachute.-
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Your role was intended to be a confirmable nothing role, just like penguins or ss’s. You could theoretically have caught rayas action with the voyeur, but the main point of it was to be a public role that you could use to have fun while not dramatically shifting the power of the team.In post 2088, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
Our role was problematic. We had to judge a contest, declare an actual winner but had no real prizes. Big freaking shocker, we got checked.In post 1931, Battle Mage wrote:
i think even nancy would say we were slightly unlucky at how badly this wentIn post 1929, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i was tilted so hard by him not listening to me on the roleclaim that I was mentally checked out lol
Basically, you randed ‘least powerful scum’ and the scum team was already stacked.This is a Parachute.-
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What I would've done?In post 2124, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:What were we supposed to do about the prizes though? That’s the main reason people began to doubt us.
Said that it was a side event thing that could net me the use of pretty meh abilities but had no real value to participation past letting people be a potential target for those abilities.
What were you supposed to do?
Whatever you wanted to do. You used your role to a surprising amount of success making people fall over themselves to post a bunch of filler early D1, to the point where deadline rolled around and there hadn't really been a real wagon except on mastina.
From a setup perspective, though, your role is 100% one that could have gone to town with 0 tweaks. It wasn't an inherently towny claim, but it was never intended to be. If a mod only gives scum town looking claims all of the millers and ninja visitors and "YOU HAVE TO COMPLIMENT ME DAMMIT" and Koalawang roles will always be town roles, which is just as bad as having no town looking scum roles in the first place.This is a Parachute.-
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^GoodpostingIn post 2144, Noraa wrote:Guys don't fite! No one plays a perfect game and there will ALWAYS be things you can do better in every game. Nothing is ever one person's fault. Either blame everyone or blame no one and then all will be peaceful
Now's the time to sit back, relax, and let go of the stress of the game. Also, post koala gifs.This is a Parachute.-
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You did have a viable verifiable prize though. The neighborize.In post 2149, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:My point is we should have at least got either viable prize suggestions or at preferably prizes that could be verified. People began suspecting me when I refused to move my vote off of Korina to test it for example.
You could also have chosen to say that the tangible results of koalawang were limited shot in nature (they were) and you had chosen to holster them for now (you did) because you thought they might be more useful in the future. Hell, I bet you dollars to donuts that saying those exact words would have solidified a townread from mastina and completely satisfied both ali and jj's setup spec, because generally nothing is more believable as a fakeclaim than outright saying the truth is.
I think the issue you faced was knowing you WERE scum and letting that scare you into thinking you needed a super elaborate ploy, when nine times out of ten the safer route is to just relax into the truth.
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I didn't give a fluffy koala flavor, SM got a picture of a drop bear.In post 2151, Noraa wrote:I want the fluffy koala not some random jingle flavor .......This is a Parachute.-
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I'm unable to make the value call of whether I would have killed mastina there, but I don't think it was a bad kill based on what you knew. Mastina was softclaiming being strong power and you didn't have the experience with her to know that she was basically hard claiming BG, so she was a decent enough shot, especially given that SS was pretty much guaranteed to be protected at that point. I'm not sure I would have considered Noraa given she was claimed as neg utility and pretty checked out, but I also don't have the personal fear of her you do, BM.In post 2158, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:I just want to clarify. I would never have seriously considered killing Mastina, had she not claimed an important role and been spewed town by literally being the counterwagon to scum. And she was also hard tr two slots who were suspicious of me. So all of that made her a triple threat basically. Remove anyone of the three and I probably would have targeted elsewhere.This is a Parachute.-
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Anecdotally, players are less likely to be the mod.In post 2177, jjh927 wrote:Statistically, players are more likely to be town than scumThis is a Parachute.-
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Actually, I think it's Not Related to Game > Reviewer > Mod > Town > Scum. I'm not going to bother checking, but I had a pretty long scum run and I mod more often than play nowadays.In post 2183, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:The odds of one out of 30 of Jingle’s accounts being the mod of a particular game, is statistically less likely than one of those accounts randing scum, which is statistically less likely than town, which is statistically less likely than even being in the actual game.This is a Parachute.-
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