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Post Post #2666 (isolation #0) » Thu May 14, 2020 5:28 pm

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Hi. Will post tmo.
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Post Post #2667 (isolation #1) » Thu May 14, 2020 5:30 pm

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In post 2656, Alisae wrote:lets hammer titus so she doesn't have to play with ABR because she does not like playing with ABR
ABR challenged me. I don't turn down a challenge from a player who thinks they can get better. Plus, I didn't want him accusing any of you of being me.
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Post Post #2692 (isolation #2) » Fri May 15, 2020 2:43 am

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In post 2670, Alisae wrote:
In post 2667, Titus wrote:
In post 2656, Alisae wrote:lets hammer titus so she doesn't have to play with ABR because she does not like playing with ABR
ABR challenged me. I don't turn down a challenge from a player who thinks they can get better. Plus, I didn't want him accusing any of you of being me.
isn't it better to start a game from D1 and not a game thats 2 scum 1 town down
I sub into games where I can do my VCA or at least out of RVS usually. I feel that D1 there's zero to go off of.
In post 2677, Raven Branwen wrote:@Titus, you’ve played with scum!ABR before. In your estimation is this his town or scum game we’re seeing here?
I can't answer this yet. Aside from detesting meta, I don't read on subbing in. I need to do my initial VCA to determine my initial impressions.
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Post Post #2693 (isolation #3) » Fri May 15, 2020 2:44 am

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In post 2688, Raya36 wrote:
In post 2646, Ame wrote:Which points do you think makes Hectic look worse?
- your second point





- Even if it's not a TMI read (I don't think it is, it looks too intentional), it kinda looks like scum buddies joking a bit in main
In post 2689, Raya36 wrote:UNVOTE: Titus

I'll go back to NK then. No sense in lynching a replacement

VOTE: NK
How can these posts be made back to back? Was your NK read as strong as your read on Hectic?
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Post Post #2695 (isolation #4) » Fri May 15, 2020 2:56 am

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In post 932, Professor Moriarty wrote:
VC 1.6
[Capture] springlullaby (4)- momo, Pine, Not Known 15, Farkset
[Capture] Farkset (3)- springlullaby, Ame, Flight of the Conchords
[Capture] Lady Chloe (1)- mastina
[Capture] Pine (1)- Pink Ball
[Capture] momo (1)- Hectic

End Day (1)- Lady Chloe

Not voting (2)- Ginngie, Raya36

With 13 alive it takes 7 to reach a majority.

Deadline is in (expired on 2020-04-20 13:00:00)

Mod notes:
Please keep it civil. We don't need personal attacks or insults.

Public Mechanic Vote
Disable Strongman (10)- Farkset, Lady Chloe, springlullaby, Raya36, Pine, Not Known 15, mastina, Ginngie, Ame, Pink Ball
Neighborizer (3)- momo, Flight of the Conchords, Hectic

Not voting (0)- Nobody
Ame and springlullaby town most likely.

In post 1258, Professor Moriarty wrote:
VC 1.FINAL
[Capture] springlullaby (7)- momo, Pine, Ame, Hectic, Farkset, Pink Ball, Not Known 15 (CAPTURE)
[Capture] Farkset (1)- springlullaby
[Capture] Lady Chloe (1)- mastina
[Capture] Raya36 (1)- Flight of the Conchords

End Day (1)- Lady Chloe

Not voting (2)- Ginngie, Raya36

With 13 alive it takes 7 to reach a majority.

Deadline is in (expired on 2020-04-20 13:00:00)

Mod notes: Hammer! (sorta)

Public Mechanic Vote
Disable Strongman (10)- Farkset, Lady Chloe, springlullaby, Raya36, Pine, Not Known 15, mastina, Ginngie, Ame, Pink Ball
Neighborizer (3)- momo, Flight of the Conchords, Hectic

Not voting (0)- Nobody


Sorry for the long twilight! I had a lot of homework yesterday, and ducky... well, I don't know. He was probably off looking for bread or something.

springlullaby has been Captured!

The following Public Mechanic has been put into play:

[Disable Strongman]
The Mafia no longer have access to their 2 XP strongman ability.

Night 1 begins and will end in (expired on 2020-04-23 14:00:00).
Correction: Night deadline is frozen while we wait for a mastina replacement.
Based on this, I'd look at Not Known 15 or Pine.
In post 1260, Professor Moriarty wrote:
Flight of the Conchords has died. They were...

Spoiler:
Town LordWelcome, Flight of the Conchords, to Mini 2133: XP Mafia II. Your role is
Town Lord.
Your role costs
4 XP
to upgrade.

You have the following abilities:
  • You start with 2 XP, instead of the default 1.
  • Whenever a Public Mechanic is put into play that costs XP to use, you will gain 1 XP.
  • When you die, each living player will gain 1 XP.
You win when all mafia members are dead and at least one town member remains alive.

Farkset has been treestumped. They are dead, but may continue to post in the thread and in any alignment-confirmed PT's. They were...

Spoiler:
Mafia WatcherWelcome, Farkset, to Mini 2133: XP Mafia II. Your role is
Mafia Watcher.
Your role costs
4 XP
to upgrade.

[REDACTED]

Each night, you may target another player. You will learn the names of all other players who targeted your target with an action that night. For each player that you see visiting your target, you will gain 1 XP.

You win when the mafia control 50% of all living players or nothing can prevent this from occurring.

In addition, the following Public Mechanics have been put into play:

[Gift]
During the night, any player may choose to give any amount of XP to another player. The person using this action loses that much XP, and the target gains that much. If the target dies that night, the action fails, but if the user dies, it succeeds.

[Lynch]
All players may vote to lynch another player using VOTE: Player or
Vote: Player
. Once a majority is reached, the day ends and that player dies.
FoTC dying suggests to look at Raya barring something happening on the quest.
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Post Post #2697 (isolation #5) » Fri May 15, 2020 3:10 am

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Spoiler: VCs
In post 1617, Professor Moriarty wrote:
VC 2.1
Raya36 (3)- Ame, Alisae, Hectic
Raven Branwen (2)- Pine, Not Known 15
Alisae (1)- Raya36

Not voting (5)- Knightmare491, Pink Ball, Ginngie, Creature, Raven Branwen

With 11 alive it takes 6 to reach a majority.

Deadline is in (expired on 2020-05-04 23:00:00)

Mod notes: Prodding Pine. Sorry for the infrequency of votecounts.
Picking up where we left off, this wagon composition doesn't look good for Raya. One conftown (me) and one probtown (Ame) against two suspect slots on a probtown (Raven aka Spring).
In post 1768, Professor Moriarty wrote:
VC 2.2
Raya36 (3)- Alisae, Hectic, Not Known 15
Knightmare491 (3)- Creature, Ame, Raven Branwen
Raven Branwen (1)- Pine
Alisae (1)- Raya36

Not voting (3)- Knightmare491, Pink Ball, Ginngie

With 11 alive it takes 6 to reach a majority.

Deadline is in (expired on 2020-05-04 23:00:00)

Mod notes: none.
Interesting how Knightmare is the counter and not Raven. If Raya is town, Negative points for Not Known 15. He could be a townbeard though...
In post 1985, Professor Moriarty wrote:
VC 2.3
Knightmare491 (5)- Raven Branwen, Not Known 15, Creature, Ame, Alisae
Alisae (3)- Raya36, Hectic, Knightmare491
Raven Branwen (1)- Pine

Not voting (2)- Pink Ball, Ginngie

With 11 alive it takes 6 to reach a majority.

Deadline is in (expired on 2020-05-04 23:00:00)

Mod notes: none.
Liking Raya as more town based off this VC. Liking Alisae a bit less.
In post 1996, Professor Moriarty wrote:
VC 2.FINAL
Knightmare491 (6)- Raven Branwen, Not Known 15, Creature, Ame, Alisae, Ginngie (LYNCH)
Alisae (3)- Raya36, Hectic, Knightmare491
Raven Branwen (1)- Pine

Not voting (1)- Pink Ball

With 11 alive it takes 6 to reach a majority.

Deadline is in (expired on 2020-05-04 23:00:00)

Mod notes: none.


Knightmare491 was lynched.


[Role redacted for spoiler code]

Night 2 begins now and ends in (expired on 2020-05-06 21:00:00).


To recap this day, Creature, Ame, Raven, and Raya likely town.

Not Known 15 needs scrutiny.
Alisae and Pine also scum contenders.
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Post Post #2698 (isolation #6) » Fri May 15, 2020 3:10 am

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VOTE: NK15
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Post Post #2699 (isolation #7) » Fri May 15, 2020 3:14 am

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I'd say Alisae is the least likely of the three. I can create a town Ali argument easy too.

Raya would be the most helpful flip for VCA but I think she's town.
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Post Post #2701 (isolation #8) » Fri May 15, 2020 3:22 am

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In post 2700, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Where does the spring townread come from? I have spring as scum.
Spring (now Raven) was a counterwagon to scum (Kerset). Spring's capture wagon went from close to lynch relatively fast, suggesting scum valued Spring a lot less than Kerset.
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Post Post #2704 (isolation #9) » Fri May 15, 2020 3:33 am

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In post 2702, Albert B. Rampage wrote:They could both be scum. You mean Farkset?

mastina/knightmare was not voting either, spring was voting farkset, farkset was voting spring. Looks like cross bussing to me.
Looks more like a retaliatory wagon to me. Spring was leading the charge against Farkset. Scum rarely come into Day 1 and cross bus each other.

Second, the wagon collapse onto Spring happened far too fast to be all town. So unless you're arguing 4 scum, I just can't see Spring as scum here.
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Post Post #2709 (isolation #10) » Fri May 15, 2020 3:39 am

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In post 2705, Raya36 wrote:momo was insistent on using the quest to prove himself town (would have quickly backfired if he's scum and town went along with it)
Explain this please.
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Post Post #2710 (isolation #11) » Fri May 15, 2020 3:40 am

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Also, why would I be in the bottom 3 with a correct and genuine sounding VCA?
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Post Post #2713 (isolation #12) » Fri May 15, 2020 3:45 am

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I understand your sentiment but I don't agree with it.

I have used my role to confirm my alignment when I was scum before. In Ginngie's most recent game, I was a wolf who got masonized. Town was unaware of multiball, so I was conftown.
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Post Post #2717 (isolation #13) » Fri May 15, 2020 3:50 am

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@Raya, You're definitely a weird character with no narrative. Not necessarily town or scum, just weird.

Does anyone know the current VC?
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Post Post #2718 (isolation #14) » Fri May 15, 2020 3:51 am

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In post 2716, Raya36 wrote:
In post 2713, Titus wrote:I understand your sentiment but I don't agree with it.

I have used my role to confirm my alignment when I was scum before. In Ginngie's most recent game, I was a wolf who got masonized. Town was unaware of multiball, so I was conftown.
That's a good point. What are your thoughts on Ali pushing for the mass claim?
I detest massclaim in general, especially when ahead. I would have refused to claim unless wagoned in Hectic's place.
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Post Post #2722 (isolation #15) » Fri May 15, 2020 4:00 am

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Ame, that and NK's recent post make me think townbeard. NK looks to scummy to be scum in the VCA sometimes.

Why are you voting Ali?
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Post Post #2728 (isolation #16) » Fri May 15, 2020 4:24 am

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@Raya, It's not an insult. Massclaim could come from scum Ali. It's a scummy move when ahead because Scum have to worry about PR traps and obvtown. Obvtown is much easier to shade than a mechanical clear.

@ABR, If Raven's town, who is scum?
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Post Post #2733 (isolation #17) » Fri May 15, 2020 6:11 am

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In post 2730, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 2723, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 2704, Titus wrote:
In post 2702, Albert B. Rampage wrote:They could both be scum. You mean Farkset?

mastina/knightmare was not voting either, spring was voting farkset, farkset was voting spring. Looks like cross bussing to me.
Looks more like a retaliatory wagon to me. Spring was leading the charge against Farkset. Scum rarely come into Day 1 and cross bus each other.

Second, the wagon collapse onto Spring happened far too fast to be all town. So unless you're arguing 4 scum, I just can't see Spring as scum here.
Scum rarely cross bus day 1 because they lose a body.

In this case they don't lose a body so there's little downside.

Your premise is wrong.
In post 2724, Albert B. Rampage wrote:and then you build the rest of your suspicions on that false premise. It doesn't work.
Did you see this? You couldn't lynch anyone Day 1. You never responded.
I did. Captured is still a negative consequence. Scum are still unlikely to double bus.
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Post Post #2734 (isolation #18) » Fri May 15, 2020 6:15 am

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VOTE: Alisae

ABR, let's do this. You me and conftown agree there's a chance this could be scum.
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Post Post #2745 (isolation #19) » Fri May 15, 2020 8:06 am

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While I normally don't TR for errors, that error feels genuine as fuck.
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Post Post #2799 (isolation #20) » Fri May 15, 2020 12:48 pm

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I'm ok with lynching any of NK Alisae or Pine (now ABR) based on my VCA. Capture is fine as well.
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Post Post #2800 (isolation #21) » Fri May 15, 2020 12:49 pm

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I particularly don't like Alisae's reaction to my sub in though.
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Post Post #2809 (isolation #22) » Fri May 15, 2020 1:01 pm

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ABR, your arrogance is showing. Speaking down to Raven makes me super disinclined to vote there. You may be more experienced but the meta has shifted towards teamwork. No one asks you to try and be a hero if you're town that is.
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Post Post #2810 (isolation #23) » Fri May 15, 2020 1:03 pm

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In post 2808, Ame wrote:It just seems to me like all the arguments right now are T v T v T v T.
Most of the people posting are town. So it's going to feel like T v T in a lot of places.

That being said, Ali's response to me coming in looked a bit like awww shit.
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Post Post #2813 (isolation #24) » Fri May 15, 2020 1:06 pm

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In post 2811, Ame wrote:I feel like Ali would be making an effort to survive here if e was scum.
You do realize E's been voting a lot of different people today right?
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Post Post #2816 (isolation #25) » Fri May 15, 2020 1:13 pm

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In post 2815, Raven Branwen wrote:
In post 2810, Titus wrote:
In post 2808, Ame wrote:It just seems to me like all the arguments right now are T v T v T v T.
Most of the people posting are town. So it's going to feel like T v T in a lot of places.

That being said, Ali's response to me coming in looked a bit like awww shit.
The obvious problem for anyone who isn’t you, Ali or ABR, is we have no basis to judge the context of that, since Ali’s posts to you specifically referenced that.
I'll give you the short version. ABR and I have fought the way you're fighting with him for years.

Alisae has put on record that she thinks I am the best town player in 2020. I don't agree with that but it makes Alisae's reaction to my sub in look off. Alisae should be expecting a nice wrap up, not dreading things.
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Post Post #2820 (isolation #26) » Fri May 15, 2020 1:24 pm

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In post 2670, Alisae wrote:
In post 2667, Titus wrote:
In post 2656, Alisae wrote:lets hammer titus so she doesn't have to play with ABR because she does not like playing with ABR
ABR challenged me. I don't turn down a challenge from a player who thinks they can get better. Plus, I didn't want him accusing any of you of being me.
isn't it better to start a game from D1 and not a game thats 2 scum 1 town down
This is the post that pinged me the most. I subbed in and nailed a scum with my VCA immediately and turned a game away from Alisae's scumteam. Why would Ali suggest it would be better for me to come in Day 1?
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Post Post #2834 (isolation #27) » Fri May 15, 2020 2:02 pm

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In post 2825, Raven Branwen wrote:
In post 2820, Titus wrote:
In post 2670, Alisae wrote:
In post 2667, Titus wrote:
In post 2656, Alisae wrote:lets hammer titus so she doesn't have to play with ABR because she does not like playing with ABR
ABR challenged me. I don't turn down a challenge from a player who thinks they can get better. Plus, I didn't want him accusing any of you of being me.
isn't it better to start a game from D1 and not a game thats 2 scum 1 town down
This is the post that pinged me the most. I subbed in and nailed a scum with my VCA immediately and turned a game away from Alisae's scumteam. Why would Ali suggest it would be better for me to come in Day 1?
Can you link/quote those posts?
In post 1902, Alisae wrote:btw I think janitoring Nati is really good.
I think Titus needed to be taken out on replace in tho
In post 1869, Alisae wrote:best town player in 2020 reps in

scum immediately lose
In post 1870, Alisae wrote:love it when Titus steals my wins on a whim
In post 1874, Alisae wrote:also shooting Torque was such a gamethrow but Titus replaced in so that makes it okay KEKW
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Post Post #2837 (isolation #28) » Fri May 15, 2020 2:04 pm

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In post 2821, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 2816, Titus wrote:Alisae should be expecting a nice wrap up, not dreading things.
Alisae lynched scum already before we replaced in, I doubt this is about you. A compliment paid to you some time ago is probably the last thing on his mind...
That compliment from "sometime ago" is this week.

I would expect Alisae to think this game was wrapped up on my sub in.
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Post Post #2842 (isolation #29) » Fri May 15, 2020 2:09 pm

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I'd like to here A's thoughts on how I feel about it. It doesn't make eir lockscum, but it's worrying and I want an answer.
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Post Post #2851 (isolation #30) » Fri May 15, 2020 2:37 pm

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In post 2846, Raven Branwen wrote:
In post 2657, Alisae wrote:I really don't actually think Hectic flips scum tho I think if he's actually scum he just takes the L here.
Repping out so you don't have an L on your record is sinning and I want to believe that Hectic isn't a sinner.

UNVOTE:
Ali was the first one to dismantle Hectic wagon. I was already off of it but it would be a very strange thing for scum!Ali to do. @Titus, if things between you and ABR ever bordered on toxic, do you think that could explain it? If ABR wasn’t in this game, I probably would be agreeing with you on that.
I tried to parse this post multiple times. I am still at a loss.
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Post Post #2871 (isolation #31) » Fri May 15, 2020 5:56 pm

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VOTE: NK15
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Post Post #2879 (isolation #32) » Sat May 16, 2020 2:49 am

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I can't compromise on PB or TSE. I have my three that I am strongly preferring (Ali, ABR, NK15, not in order). If it's anyone else, I'll hammer at deadline and not be happy.
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Post Post #2884 (isolation #33) » Sat May 16, 2020 3:18 am

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Let's do NK then. If NK flips town, we all reset with a preference towards Ame's reads. NK can't be let anywhere near lylo even if we're wrong.
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Post Post #2934 (isolation #34) » Sat May 16, 2020 8:43 am

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Raven, don't bother. He's being an asshole. You have to apologize to him because criticizing his play is "petty" but he can be outright dismissive of actual reasonable quests because of his self described God tier status. He's a narcissist.
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Post Post #2936 (isolation #35) » Sat May 16, 2020 8:54 am

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In post 2935, Pink Ball wrote:C'mon dude they both backed off, why start it again
Until ABR starts treating Raven with respect, he hasn't backed off. It's a dog and pony show.
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Post Post #2945 (isolation #36) » Sat May 16, 2020 4:14 pm

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VOTE: ABR
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Post Post #2952 (isolation #37) » Sun May 17, 2020 5:12 am

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ABR, you were in my pool because of Pine's terrible vote history. You're one of three suspects I have. You got traction and I largely agree with Raven's case. Could I be wrong? Yes. That's why my PoE pool is down to three.

Your elitist behavior is 100% proscum, but I didn't vote you for that. I am not policy voting you at all. Don't dress it up like I am.

Please fullclaim.
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Post Post #2958 (isolation #38) » Sun May 17, 2020 5:21 am

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Thing is, I felt Alisae claiming I was the best scumhunt in 2020 was a bit overdone but I am perfectly ok with her having her own opinion. Just like everyone else here.

If you think my VCA is bad, you're perfectly welcome to do your own. The floor is yours. I have never been so invested in my VCA where I view it as beyond reproach. I just expect people to engage it rather than dismiss it entirely. The last guy who tried that approach, I turbo locked him as scum and was right.

Lastly, what do you think of ? I want some clarity there.
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Post Post #2961 (isolation #39) » Sun May 17, 2020 5:24 am

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If NK15 or Ali gain more traction, I am perfectly ok voting there. The tribe has spoken ABR. I never was the first vote on you, and I won't be the only vote on you (unless lylo and I still SR you.)
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Post Post #2964 (isolation #40) » Sun May 17, 2020 5:28 am

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In post 2959, Albert B. Rampage wrote:There's no day 1 VCA because, and I'm not the only one who pointed this out, there was no lynch mechanic day 1. So you have to ignore every capture vote day 1.
Great. We still lynched scum day 2. You can still delineate your double bus theory if you wish to. There's still conclusions to be had. "Why did we lynch scum Day 2?" for instance.
In post 2960, Albert B. Rampage wrote:2949 is one of my 3 scumreads placing a naked vote on me. You have less than 24 hours to determine a lynch that is not on conftown, you better get to it quickly.
2949 is hardly naked as it points out inconsistencies in your and Pine's claims.

Great. No one in this thread is conftown, so I already found a lynch not on conftown.
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Post Post #2966 (isolation #41) » Sun May 17, 2020 5:30 am

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In post 2963, Raya36 wrote:
In post 2954, Albert B. Rampage wrote:We massclaimed already and dress it up all you like, in every game we have been in, every single one, you have come after me like you are now. I was always town. The one time I was scum, you didn't attack me.

Your play here demonstrates you are always biased against me. Don't talk to me about POE when the last 9 out of 10 games have resulted in the same.

Your solve is bad, the premises you used is bad, the VCA is bad, and alisae should take the compliment back when I flip.
This sounds like discrediting
It is, but it's NAI for ABR. He views himself as better than me and better than Raven. So he'd discredit me regardless of his PM. That's why I say his elitism is anti-town and proscum rather than suggesting his alignment is scum for it.
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Post Post #2968 (isolation #42) » Sun May 17, 2020 5:36 am

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In post 2967, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Oh okay, so we are adding elitist to arrogant and narcissistic. A lot of personal insults flying around here. Titus, you have to understand why I think you're bad at mafia. You were wrong about me being scum how many times now?
I don't know. I'm human and my perspective on you has changed over the years to realize that your personality isn't your alignment.

That's why I wouldn't be voting you if a) Pine's votes weren't bad and b) I would be voting alone [barring lylo].

I am aware of my weaknesses. Scumreading arrogant narcissists is one of them. Town's a team, not about the greatness of any one player.

You seem to think every player that takes issue with you is bad, a secret alt of mine, or some combination of the two. I did tell you that this is a team game.

That's why I play like I do now.
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Post Post #2971 (isolation #43) » Sun May 17, 2020 5:41 am

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In post 2969, Raya36 wrote:Titus, you think ABR is scum right? Can you explain why without insults please?
Pine's vote history is horrible, the claim is inconsistent, ABR's PoE includes about everyone but me, his bizarre discredit tunnel on Raven where he denigrates and dismisses her, his playing the victim when I SR him, and his general holier than art though attitude. The last is NAI but still makes me SR him.
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Post Post #2977 (isolation #44) » Sun May 17, 2020 5:59 am

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In post 2976, Alisae wrote:What has Raya said no to?
Important question
Lynching me and you as far as I recall.
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Post Post #2979 (isolation #45) » Sun May 17, 2020 6:01 am

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In post 2978, Alisae wrote:
In post 2977, Titus wrote:
In post 2976, Alisae wrote:What has Raya said no to?
Important question
Lynching me and you as far as I recall.
she was open to lynching me earlier
Why not just ask Raya for her PoE then? Why put this question with such negative spin?
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Post Post #2983 (isolation #46) » Sun May 17, 2020 7:26 am

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In post 2981, Ame wrote:ABR isn't scum:
In post 572, Farkset wrote:
In post 570, Pink Ball wrote:That being said:

VOTE: Disable Strongman

HURT: Pine
Pine looks like the weirdest choice in this gamestate… why would you vote there?

-Farkran
In post 577, Farkset wrote:Cmon pine made very informative 7 posts, he voted spring in one of them. That makes him obvious scum. *irony*
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Post Post #2994 (isolation #47) » Sun May 17, 2020 8:45 am

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In post 2991, Pink Ball wrote:@Titus you said that if NK15's wagon got more traction you would vote there, right? 'Cause I'm still voting him
Yes but ABR is L minus 1
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Post Post #2999 (isolation #48) » Sun May 17, 2020 8:46 am

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In post 2995, Pink Ball wrote:Is he?? I thought he was max L-2
Four votes is L minus 1 I believe.
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Post Post #3003 (isolation #49) » Sun May 17, 2020 8:47 am

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In post 2998, Ame wrote:Please unvote while I write up the case.
No. Deadline is too close. Normally I would.
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Post Post #3016 (isolation #50) » Sun May 17, 2020 9:09 am

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In post 3013, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Let's just give Ame time. This game has been on the backburner for me and will remain so while I'm in danger. I haven't put too much effort or time to figuring out who's scum, if I'm wrong about my POE I'll change it. I'm not married to my reads.
Blackmail is so protown.
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Post Post #3019 (isolation #51) » Sun May 17, 2020 9:17 am

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In post 3018, Raven Branwen wrote:
In post 3016, Titus wrote:
In post 3013, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Let's just give Ame time. This game has been on the backburner for me and will remain so while I'm in danger. I haven't put too much effort or time to figuring out who's scum, if I'm wrong about my POE I'll change it. I'm not married to my reads.
Blackmail is so protown.
???

How is this blackmail?
ABR is saying he'll play this game when he's not under lynch threat.
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Post Post #3041 (isolation #52) » Sun May 17, 2020 11:13 am

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So ABR and Creature are tried at 3.

Wait if TSE was voting ABR wouldn't Raya have hammered him? It takes five to hammer.
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Post Post #3044 (isolation #53) » Sun May 17, 2020 11:15 am

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Nevermind, we have 10 alive, not 9. It takes 6 to hammer.
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Post Post #3045 (isolation #54) » Sun May 17, 2020 11:16 am

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We're no lynching at this rate. Can we please start voting someone that actually can be scum?
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Post Post #3052 (isolation #55) » Sun May 17, 2020 11:20 am

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In post 3047, Pink Ball wrote:I'll change to creature if needed but I'd rather do this
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Post Post #3054 (isolation #56) » Sun May 17, 2020 11:23 am

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In post 3051, Ame wrote:Creature is even playing to the scum meta that Hectic provided
I didn't read and respond to your case as I am on mobile. As for the parts I did read, it's wholly uninspiring.

Scum don't coordinate responses like that to marina's sub out.

Second, the rule of 3 in Farkset's disaligned post was already met when mastina flipped scum.
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Post Post #3055 (isolation #57) » Sun May 17, 2020 11:24 am

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In post 3053, Ame wrote:
In post 3045, Titus wrote:We're no lynching at this rate. Can we please start voting someone that actually can be scum?
Just come over. I don't understand what your deal is with ABR.
I already answered this for Raya but Pine's vote history is terrible. I'd rather vote for someone in my PoE.
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Post Post #3059 (isolation #58) » Sun May 17, 2020 11:29 am

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In post 3058, Ame wrote:No questions asked. I'll sheep you to your heart's content.
You're dead tomorrow regardless. I'll read Creature to my PoE if I am wrong here.
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Post Post #3060 (isolation #59) » Sun May 17, 2020 11:29 am

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The only reason I'm willing to hammer Creature at deadline is because the slot is vacant anyway.
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Post Post #3062 (isolation #60) » Sun May 17, 2020 11:30 am

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In post 3056, Ame wrote:They didn't coordinate it. Fark was just working off of it which they both had advanced knowledge to.
Everyone had knowledge of the ban though.
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Post Post #3063 (isolation #61) » Sun May 17, 2020 11:30 am

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In post 3061, Ame wrote:Nope scum aren't killing tonight.
And why is that?
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Post Post #3071 (isolation #62) » Sun May 17, 2020 11:34 am

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In post 3068, Ame wrote:We're voting Creature.
Or ABR, who has more votes so *shrug*

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Post Post #3074 (isolation #63) » Sun May 17, 2020 11:34 am

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Nevermind, Creature does now.
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Post Post #3076 (isolation #64) » Sun May 17, 2020 11:35 am

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Creature is at L minus 1.

I'll hammer if I must, but I am holding out for sensibility.
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Post Post #3080 (isolation #65) » Sun May 17, 2020 11:36 am

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In post 3077, Ame wrote:Ame, vig Titus if this flips green.
?
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Post Post #3083 (isolation #66) » Sun May 17, 2020 11:37 am

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In post 3081, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 3071, Titus wrote:
In post 3068, Ame wrote:We're voting Creature.
Or ABR, who has more votes so *shrug*

Question, can we train and upgrade in the same night?
Yeah.
Oh good.

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Post Post #3087 (isolation #67) » Sun May 17, 2020 11:38 am

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In post 3082, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:I don’t trust much people here Tbh.
Ame is Obv Town though.
I agree Ame is. I just strongly disagree with her Creature scumread.
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Post Post #3089 (isolation #68) » Sun May 17, 2020 11:38 am

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In post 3086, Pink Ball wrote:@Everyone stick to the plan
Too late for that. We didn't lynch anyone who had a chance of flipping scum.
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Post Post #3093 (isolation #69) » Sun May 17, 2020 11:41 am

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In post 3090, Ame wrote:Why are you so sure?
I am that confident in my assessment of a)your creature case b) the votes don't suggest Creature scum and c) it's super easy for scum to lynch an inactive at deadline.
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Post Post #3095 (isolation #70) » Sun May 17, 2020 11:41 am

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In post 3091, Ame wrote:The rule of three thing?
It was already met.

Anytime scum mention 3 or more names, it usually contains at least 1 scum.
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Post Post #3099 (isolation #71) » Sun May 17, 2020 11:48 am

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In post 3097, Ame wrote:Titus, are you generally this confident about town flips? (Interested to hear from anyone else familiar with Titus).
Yes when it comes to my VCA.
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Post Post #3134 (isolation #72) » Wed May 20, 2020 6:37 am

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In post 3110, Ame wrote:What is everyone's current XP?
And NK, TSE, Titus are you able to upgrade today?
At the end of day, 3 XP.
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Post Post #3141 (isolation #73) » Wed May 20, 2020 6:40 am

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In post 3136, Ame wrote:
In post 3133, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:I need to have a total of 4 XP and I have 3.
What did you do last night?
In post 3134, Titus wrote:
In post 3110, Ame wrote:What is everyone's current XP?
And NK, TSE, Titus are you able to upgrade today?
At the end of day, 3 XP.
What is your current XP?
3 like I said. I tried to train and upgrade last night but I have to wait to EoD
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Post Post #3142 (isolation #74) » Wed May 20, 2020 6:41 am

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In post 3125, Ame wrote:ARB since you have more XP than anyone, would you be willing to lynched so you can use the vengeful kill?
I am ok with this, even if I get venged.
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Post Post #3164 (isolation #75) » Wed May 20, 2020 6:53 am

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In post 3158, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:The fact Raven can’t even say who they would NK is telling.
Cause watch this.
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Who would you have Night Killed if you were scum?
An obscure, untraceable kill tbh. Definitely not someone TRing me. More mid level suspicion or a town cohesion kill.
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Post Post #3180 (isolation #76) » Wed May 20, 2020 7:03 am

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In post 3177, Pink Ball wrote:barded
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Post Post #3190 (isolation #77) » Wed May 20, 2020 7:17 am

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In post 3184, Raven Branwen wrote:I was sure it had to be ABR but he claimed 5 XP, so scum shouldn’t have so much XP.
What if scum have a way to gain extra EXP?
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Post Post #3239 (isolation #78) » Wed May 20, 2020 8:32 am

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Can we stop encouraging T v Ts and actually lynch ABR?

VOTE: ABR

I'd also settle for NK15 or Ali.
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Post Post #3240 (isolation #79) » Wed May 20, 2020 8:32 am

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Oh and

VOTE: Yes
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Post Post #3243 (isolation #80) » Wed May 20, 2020 8:34 am

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In post 3241, Ame wrote:
In post 3187, Pink Ball wrote:But scum having to decide who is less scummy or a bigger threat gives us more info. We would be making their job easier. Maybe I'm getting too paranoid and you're right about not prolonging it, but for me more info is always better
From my perspective, we have an overload of information currently. And since there is one mafia left and we are all
essentially just voting the same group of players,
I don't think we will get much from the wagons. I'm currently in a blitz mentality where we just reduce the pool and go from there.
Yeah, I strongly disagree with the underlined. Raven's clear to me.
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Post Post #3245 (isolation #81) » Wed May 20, 2020 8:35 am

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In post 3242, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
In post 3239, Titus wrote:Can we stop encouraging T v Ts and actually lynch ABR?

VOTE: ABR

I'd also settle for NK15 or Ali.
Raven is scum here.
I refuse to believe Raven is that blind sighted.
Town can be dumb. Stop pride voting. That's why Creature died.
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Post Post #3246 (isolation #82) » Wed May 20, 2020 8:36 am

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In post 3244, Ame wrote:
In post 3238, Raven Branwen wrote:
In post 3235, Ame wrote:Raven if you think TSE is scum, what is the issue?
In post 3236, Ame wrote:VOTE: Raven
Will you stop helping scum and use your brain, unlike with Creature?

And don’t sign up for any of my games if we lose this because of you. I’m serious. You have literally the worst reads: Farkset excepted,
I don't understand the issue? You think TSE is scum. I think there is a good chance he is scum. Lynching you, we get a shot at TSE.
Great so two town die.
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Post Post #3250 (isolation #83) » Wed May 20, 2020 8:37 am

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Since ABR claims Raven's scum, we can actually lynch ABR and if I am wrong he can shoot Raven.
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Post Post #3256 (isolation #84) » Wed May 20, 2020 8:39 am

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In post 3251, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
In post 3245, Titus wrote:
In post 3242, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
In post 3239, Titus wrote:Can we stop encouraging T v Ts and actually lynch ABR?

VOTE: ABR

I'd also settle for NK15 or Ali.
Raven is scum here.
I refuse to believe Raven is that blind sighted.
Town can be dumb. Stop pride voting. That's why Creature died.
Raven is scum here.
No she's not. The votes clear her. Just like they cleared Creature.
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Post Post #3259 (isolation #85) » Wed May 20, 2020 8:40 am

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In post 3258, Ame wrote:I don't understand your self-preservation.
Can I answer this?
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Post Post #3261 (isolation #86) » Wed May 20, 2020 8:40 am

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In post 3260, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Whatever just lynch me. I can shoot anyone I want with 5XP.
Something we agree on.
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Post Post #3266 (isolation #87) » Wed May 20, 2020 8:42 am

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In post 3262, Albert B. Rampage wrote:I'll shoot whoever I want though, I'm telling you now.
Yeah that's probably me if you're not bluffing. Still puts town at the best odds of winning though because it protects Raven.
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Post Post #3269 (isolation #88) » Wed May 20, 2020 8:44 am

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In post 3263, Albert B. Rampage wrote:last scum is probably a godfather btw
In post 3264, Ame wrote:
In post 3262, Albert B. Rampage wrote:I'll shoot whoever I want though, I'm telling you now.
Just know that Titus was home last night so likely didn't do the kill.
Justification for shooting me in advance. ABR, you're so ego driven and predictable. You try and scare and bully people off from voting you. Anyone who suspects you is evil, regardless of evidence.
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Post Post #3270 (isolation #89) » Wed May 20, 2020 8:44 am

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I was legit sabotaged on the quest too.
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Post Post #3275 (isolation #90) » Wed May 20, 2020 8:46 am

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I don't mind dying to protect Raven here. Either we win, or my last dying request might be honored to lynch within my scum pool.
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Post Post #3278 (isolation #91) » Wed May 20, 2020 8:47 am

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In post 3271, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:Titus is Town
PinkBall is Town
Ame is a Town
ABR is Town
Alisae is Town

Going by PoE that only leaves NK15 and Raven.
Plus Raven isn’t that blind sighted so they are scum.
Simple.
I'd settle for NK15.
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Post Post #3285 (isolation #92) » Wed May 20, 2020 8:49 am

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In post 3282, Ame wrote:NK it's time to make your dream come true. All aboard the Raven train!
Ame, you promised you'd listen to me after the Creature lynch. Why are you ignoring me again?
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Post Post #3291 (isolation #93) » Wed May 20, 2020 8:51 am

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In post 3288, Ame wrote:
In post 3285, Titus wrote:Ame, you promised you'd listen to me after the Creature lynch. Why are you ignoring me again?
I said I would follow you if you lynched Creature. You didn't keep up your end of the deal.
That was not part of the deal. I never agree to vote my townreads unless deadline hammer.
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Post Post #3296 (isolation #94) » Wed May 20, 2020 8:52 am

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In post 3289, Raven Branwen wrote:
In post 3285, Titus wrote:
In post 3282, Ame wrote:NK it's time to make your dream come true. All aboard the Raven train!
Ame, you promised you'd listen to me after the Creature lynch. Why are you ignoring me again?
We are going to lose because Ame wants to scumside,
Just venge NK15. If it's wrong, scum have to be in ABR/Ali. We will have the lynches and whatever my upgraded role is.
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Post Post #3298 (isolation #95) » Wed May 20, 2020 8:53 am

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In post 3295, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
In post 3289, Raven Branwen wrote:
In post 3285, Titus wrote:
In post 3282, Ame wrote:NK it's time to make your dream come true. All aboard the Raven train!
Ame, you promised you'd listen to me after the Creature lynch. Why are you ignoring me again?
We are going to lose because Ame wants to scumside,
Ame gets scum lynched
1 Scum remains
Ame gets a mislynch but Town still has a good majority
Raven Claims Ame is scum siding with 1 Scum alive.
:?:
She's claiming Ame is a townbeard.
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Post Post #3302 (isolation #96) » Wed May 20, 2020 8:55 am

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In post 3300, Raven Branwen wrote:
In post 3294, Raven Branwen wrote:Okay, fuck it.

VOTE: Yes

VOTE: ABR
I meant what I said. I am officially blacklisting Ame from my future games.
Don't do this because someone has a bad game. Ame's been bullheaded and wrong, but not toxic.
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Post Post #3305 (isolation #97) » Wed May 20, 2020 8:56 am

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In post 3301, Raven Branwen wrote:
In post 3297, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 3294, Raven Branwen wrote:Okay, fuck it.

VOTE: Yes

VOTE: ABR
I'm itching to pull the trigger.
Do it, Ame is hellbent on town losing this, so please venge me so I no longer have to be part of this teainwreck.
Raven, he won't kill you. He'd kill me if he even gets one. He's hinted as much with his outright ignoring of the innocent result on me.
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Post Post #3311 (isolation #98) » Wed May 20, 2020 9:00 am

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Raven, the way I see it, we have two options. One, lynch ABR, accept the risk of the loss of conftown or lynch NK15.

We aren't lynching my townreads if I have any say at all and you TR Ali.

Yeah, the mods not being here sucked. We can cry or we can buckle up.
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Post Post #3313 (isolation #99) » Wed May 20, 2020 9:01 am

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In post 3310, Raven Branwen wrote:
In post 3307, Ame wrote:Raven make sure to unsubmit your upgrade if you sent it in so that you're not at 0 XP upon lynch (I'm not sure which would come first).
If I’m dead, why does it even matter?
Raven doesn't want to venge, so declining her upgrade doesn't make sense from her pov.
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Post Post #3317 (isolation #100) » Wed May 20, 2020 9:03 am

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Ame, suppose for a moment Raven's town. Would you lynch ABR or NK15? Normally, I would lynch ABR but I have to have some self preservation knowing there's an innocent on me.
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Post Post #3319 (isolation #101) » Wed May 20, 2020 9:04 am

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In post 3316, Raven Branwen wrote:
In post 3311, Titus wrote:Raven, the way I see it, we have two options. One, lynch ABR, accept the risk of the loss of conftown or lynch NK15.

We aren't lynching my townreads if I have any say at all and you TR Ali.

Yeah, the mods not being here sucked. We can cry or we can buckle up.
Titus, PB and Ali are all town and once I’m dead, once of them 100% will be NK’d. Scum won’t kill Ame because he’s literally handing them the game.
Great.

VOTE: NK15

You decided this for me. Survival over ABR lynch. Still lessens the pool anyway.
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Post Post #3347 (isolation #102) » Wed May 20, 2020 9:29 am

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Great, so Raven's going to pull an ABR.

Can we please stop the nonsense? Is anyone actually TRing NK15 or ABR?
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Post Post #3353 (isolation #103) » Wed May 20, 2020 9:34 am

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Ame, are you townreading NK 15?
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Post Post #3416 (isolation #104) » Wed May 20, 2020 11:43 am

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In post 3415, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 3413, Raven Branwen wrote:
In post 292, Pink Ball wrote:I see some votes on spring and I think they come mostly because of playstyle rather than an actual scumread
In post 301, Pink Ball wrote:I'm aware of Hectic being more serious than I'm used to, but that seems to be because of spring putting him on the spot rather than an alignment thing. It's a new angle for me.

No I don't think it's AI for spring, that's what I meant
In post 303, Farkset wrote:
@PB why is spring not reevaluating his thoughs? He got quite solid feedback from people but instead of doubt he persist even more.
This is what I mean by PB dissociatives.

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PB doesn’t sound like a Farkset buddy here.
I disagree. Scum theater.
ABR, what would it take for you to finally listen to us on NK15 if you're town?
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Post Post #3423 (isolation #105) » Wed May 20, 2020 12:08 pm

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In post 3421, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 3416, Titus wrote:ABR, what would it take for you to finally listen to us on NK15 if you're town?
If you write a decent case that isn't "my VCA"
Define what would make a "decent case". I am not going to put in the work to case someone if you're just going to plug your ears and claim to be a better player.
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Post Post #3464 (isolation #106) » Wed May 20, 2020 2:43 pm

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@Alisae,

If NK is staring down the neck of PoE, doesn't it make sense to argue Raven is scum if he knows ABR will follow?
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Post Post #3485 (isolation #107) » Wed May 20, 2020 3:00 pm

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In post 3467, Alisae wrote:
In post 3443, Alisae wrote:Titus what happened to your slot on night 1?
Got sabotaged.
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Post Post #3488 (isolation #108) » Wed May 20, 2020 3:01 pm

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In post 3469, Alisae wrote:
In post 3464, Titus wrote:@Alisae,

If NK is staring down the neck of PoE, doesn't it make sense to argue Raven is scum if he knows ABR will follow?
he doesn't tho.
that SvS theory was crafted on D1
Oh, so a theory that denies obvtown being obvtown is good because?
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Post Post #3490 (isolation #109) » Wed May 20, 2020 3:05 pm

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In post 3489, Alisae wrote:
In post 3488, Titus wrote:
In post 3469, Alisae wrote:
In post 3464, Titus wrote:@Alisae,

If NK is staring down the neck of PoE, doesn't it make sense to argue Raven is scum if he knows ABR will follow?
he doesn't tho.
that SvS theory was crafted on D1
Oh, so a theory that denies obvtown being obvtown is good because?
its too nonsensical to come from scum at that time.
It's much easier to produce nonsense rather than content.
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Post Post #3491 (isolation #110) » Wed May 20, 2020 3:07 pm

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In post 3487, Ame wrote:Let's try TSE + NK
At least this might help us.
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Post Post #3502 (isolation #111) » Wed May 20, 2020 3:21 pm

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In post 3495, Ame wrote:
In post 3493, Albert B. Rampage wrote:what did TSE claim? And his actions each night? Was he questing?
-Nothing N1, did join quest
-Nothing N2
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Post Post #3569 (isolation #112) » Wed May 20, 2020 11:52 pm

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Ame could be theoretically be scum but it's not worth discussing until lylo. Being wrong =/= being scum.
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Post Post #3571 (isolation #113) » Wed May 20, 2020 11:55 pm

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It's probably nk15 or ABR anyway but I won't vote ABR with the big shot up in case I am wrong.
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Post Post #3572 (isolation #114) » Wed May 20, 2020 11:55 pm

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*big = venge
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Post Post #3573 (isolation #115) » Wed May 20, 2020 11:56 pm

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VOTE: no
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Post Post #3621 (isolation #116) » Thu May 21, 2020 8:34 am

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NK15, who would you shoot?
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Post Post #3625 (isolation #117) » Thu May 21, 2020 8:42 am

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VOTE: Yes

I am in favor. The goal is to create conftown, I'm in.

I have 3 XP, sabotaged night 1.
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Post Post #3626 (isolation #118) » Thu May 21, 2020 8:44 am

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#toolazytocheck

If Raven has 4 XP, I recommend shooting her to soft confirm her as town.
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Post Post #3654 (isolation #119) » Thu May 21, 2020 9:34 am

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In post 3652, Not Known 15 wrote:
In post 3650, Raven Branwen wrote:I think ABR should shoot me. Yes, I will actually die in that case but I think that NK15 is very obviously town now and if ABR flips town, it probably is TSE. What do you guys think?
We risk losing a lynch with a subsequent vengekill if that happens.
+1 but this plan moves him closer to PoE

Ame is conftown
We'll both be soft cleared

That'll leave TSE, Alisae, Pink Ball, and ABR

In order to get to a lylo, he'd have to shoot near conftown everynight.

ABR loses against Alisae in a 1 v 1.

That forces ABR to try and mislynch TSE and Pink Ball as his only moves and forces him to keep a conftown in lylo.
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Post Post #3655 (isolation #120) » Thu May 21, 2020 9:35 am

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That's supposing none of us gain a cop check when we upgrade.

This also doesn't factor vengekills.
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Post Post #3666 (isolation #121) » Thu May 21, 2020 9:59 am

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In post 3662, Alisae wrote:Also I’m not particularly interested in soft clearing people
In post 3663, Alisae wrote:And by people I mean Raven
Why Raven in particular? Isn't soft clearing good for town?
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Post Post #3667 (isolation #122) » Thu May 21, 2020 10:00 am

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In post 3665, Alisae wrote:Is this something that Titus came up with?
If so its not like I’ll protest against it, we’ll probably win the game lmao
VOTE: nk15
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Post Post #3674 (isolation #123) » Thu May 21, 2020 10:09 am

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In post 3673, Raven Branwen wrote:@NK15, @Titus, have you considered that the one problem with this plan is that we will be no closer to figuring out if it’s ABR or TSE?

Because I can’t see it being NK15 obviously and I know I’m town, so how are we moving any closer to solving this?
Fmpov, It's ABR or Ali and preventing ABR from tunneling you is a net positive. I'll take this compromise.
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Post Post #3681 (isolation #124) » Thu May 21, 2020 10:27 am

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The catch is I don't trust town ABR.
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Post Post #3682 (isolation #125) » Thu May 21, 2020 10:27 am

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In post 3678, Alisae wrote:I don’t see how I nightkill with 0 XP tbh
In post 3679, Alisae wrote:I trained and now i have 1 but still
Is there external evidence of your EXP level?
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Post Post #3685 (isolation #126) » Thu May 21, 2020 10:33 am

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In post 3684, Raven Branwen wrote:
In post 3681, Titus wrote:The catch is I don't trust town ABR.
What do you mean? He is tr me now and not tunelling me, so what exactly are you afraid of?
ABR shooting me.
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Post Post #3687 (isolation #127) » Thu May 21, 2020 10:37 am

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In post 3686, Raven Branwen wrote:
In post 3685, Titus wrote:
In post 3684, Raven Branwen wrote:
In post 3681, Titus wrote:The catch is I don't trust town ABR.
What do you mean? He is tr me now and not tunelling me, so what exactly are you afraid of?
ABR shooting me.
Why do you even care? I’m fine with him shooting me. If you honestly think he’s scum here, why wouldn’t you be willing to die to get him lynched?…
Thinking he's scum =/= certainty he's scum. I can't jeopardize my conftown status on it either. If I was suspected, I would in a heartbeat.
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Post Post #3689 (isolation #128) » Thu May 21, 2020 10:43 am

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In post 3688, Raven Branwen wrote:Like I can definitely understand why you wouldn’t want to get mislynched. No one does but if you can take out your strongest sr by dying, why wouldn’t you?
Because I can't afford the risk. This isn't the Titus show. Also, this isn't Titus v Alisae, where I live as a treestump forever. My time in this thread is limited. So is my power.

I'd rather do NK15.
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Post Post #3692 (isolation #129) » Thu May 21, 2020 10:48 am

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In post 3691, Raven Branwen wrote:
In post 3689, Titus wrote:
In post 3688, Raven Branwen wrote:Like I can definitely understand why you wouldn’t want to get mislynched. No one does but if you can take out your strongest sr by dying, why wouldn’t you?
Because I can't afford the risk. This isn't the Titus show. Also, this isn't Titus v Alisae, where I live as a treestump forever. My time in this thread is limited. So is my power.

I'd rather do NK15.
What risk? NK15 is obviously town. He proved that by wanting to venge me.
Want is just a claim imo.
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Post Post #3694 (isolation #130) » Thu May 21, 2020 10:50 am

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In post 3690, Raven Branwen wrote:
In post 3687, Titus wrote:
In post 3686, Raven Branwen wrote:
In post 3685, Titus wrote:
In post 3684, Raven Branwen wrote:
In post 3681, Titus wrote:The catch is I don't trust town ABR.
What do you mean? He is tr me now and not tunelling me, so what exactly are you afraid of?
ABR shooting me.
Why do you even care? I’m fine with him shooting me. If you honestly think he’s scum here, why wouldn’t you be willing to die to get him lynched?…
Thinking he's scum =/= certainty he's scum. I can't jeopardize my conftown status on it either. If I was suspected, I would in a heartbeat.
What do you mean by jeopardizing your “confitown status”? I think you’re extremely likely to be town but literally no one is confitown here, not even Ame but he obviously comes the closest.
I was tracked going nowhere last night. Hence why I am close to conftown. ABR started speculating about a Godfather and ninja then.

The point is NK15 is in my pool and someone who I trust not to throw the game if town. I don't have the same trust in ABR.
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Post Post #3696 (isolation #131) » Thu May 21, 2020 10:53 am

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In post 3695, Raven Branwen wrote:
In post 3692, Titus wrote:
In post 3691, Raven Branwen wrote:
In post 3689, Titus wrote:
In post 3688, Raven Branwen wrote:Like I can definitely understand why you wouldn’t want to get mislynched. No one does but if you can take out your strongest sr by dying, why wouldn’t you?
Because I can't afford the risk. This isn't the Titus show. Also, this isn't Titus v Alisae, where I live as a treestump forever. My time in this thread is limited. So is my power.

I'd rather do NK15.
What risk? NK15 is obviously town. He proved that by wanting to venge me.
Want is just a claim imo.
If he’s lynched, he dies, so him wanting to venge me still literally results in him dying.
Right. But if he doesn't get lynched, it's lip service.
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Post Post #3700 (isolation #132) » Thu May 21, 2020 11:06 am

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In post 3698, Raven Branwen wrote:
In post 3694, Titus wrote:
In post 3690, Raven Branwen wrote:
In post 3687, Titus wrote:
In post 3686, Raven Branwen wrote:
In post 3685, Titus wrote:
In post 3684, Raven Branwen wrote:
In post 3681, Titus wrote:The catch is I don't trust town ABR.
What do you mean? He is tr me now and not tunelling me, so what exactly are you afraid of?
ABR shooting me.
Why do you even care? I’m fine with him shooting me. If you honestly think he’s scum here, why wouldn’t you be willing to die to get him lynched?…
Thinking he's scum =/= certainty he's scum. I can't jeopardize my conftown status on it either. If I was suspected, I would in a heartbeat.
What do you mean by jeopardizing your “confitown status”? I think you’re extremely likely to be town but literally no one is confitown here, not even Ame but he obviously comes the closest.
I was tracked going nowhere last night. Hence why I am close to conftown. ABR started speculating about a Godfather and ninja then.

The point is NK15 is in my pool and someone who I trust not to throw the game if town. I don't have the same trust in ABR.
Who claimed to track you? I must have missed that? I think I’m probably the only one he can softclear as town, due to us having both 4 XP but my point, is we don’t get even the possibility of a scum lynch out of it. NK15 dies and I probably get NK’d and no scumflip. I think scum!NK15 would want me to be venged by ABR rather than himself, since wanting to softclear a slot is town indicative, especially if he has to give his life to make that happen.
In post 3268, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 3264, Ame wrote:
In post 3262, Albert B. Rampage wrote:I'll shoot whoever I want though, I'm telling you now.
Just know that Titus was home last night so likely didn't do the kill.
Probably used a ninja.
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Post Post #3702 (isolation #133) » Thu May 21, 2020 11:06 am

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Raven, we have to agree to disagree here. I have limited focus at the moment.
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Post Post #3709 (isolation #134) » Thu May 21, 2020 12:56 pm

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VC please I think that may be a lynch.
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Post Post #3713 (isolation #135) » Thu May 21, 2020 1:17 pm

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In post 3711, Raven Branwen wrote:
In post 3708, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Can u kill TSE?
Apparently he’s still deathtunennelled on me despite all of the evidence to the contrary. Anyway, game won’t end tonight because mod told me nothing would happen, if he shoots me.
That stops most suspicion on you and you get an upgrade. Scum can't kill us both.
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Post Post #3714 (isolation #136) » Thu May 21, 2020 1:17 pm

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In post 3712, Ame wrote:
In post 3708, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Can u kill TSE?
This.
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Post Post #3716 (isolation #137) » Thu May 21, 2020 1:19 pm

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In post 3715, Ame wrote:
In post 3714, Titus wrote:
In post 3712, Ame wrote:
In post 3708, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Can u kill TSE?
This.
Smh.
Is he not in your PoE? Who is left?
Ali and ABR
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Post Post #3743 (isolation #138) » Sun May 24, 2020 12:27 pm

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I upgraded. Night after this, if alive, I will use a bodyguard. I have no night action but it's anti-town for me to claim.
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Post Post #3745 (isolation #139) » Sun May 24, 2020 12:29 pm

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In post 3734, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:We can use the BG mechanic to our advantage and catch Scum.
If we all have 1 Exp we can use it.
That should be tmo. How would it catch scum?
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Post Post #3749 (isolation #140) » Sun May 24, 2020 12:52 pm

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In post 3748, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 3743, Titus wrote:I upgraded. Night after this, if alive, I will use a bodyguard. I have no night action but it's anti-town for me to claim.
What did your upgrade give you?
Absolutely no action that I can claim.
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Post Post #3750 (isolation #141) » Sun May 24, 2020 12:53 pm

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VOTE: ABR

At least y'all know Raven's town now.
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Post Post #3752 (isolation #142) » Sun May 24, 2020 12:58 pm

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In post 3751, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
In post 3750, Titus wrote:VOTE: ABR

At least y'all know Raven's town now.
We do?
Yup. No reason for NK to lie about who he shot. He said he was shooting Raven.
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Post Post #3761 (isolation #143) » Sun May 24, 2020 1:07 pm

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Nah, you aren't tracked clear and you didn't speculate ninja until I started to suspect you. So how are you clear?
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Post Post #3764 (isolation #144) » Sun May 24, 2020 1:10 pm

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VOTE: Ali
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Post Post #3776 (isolation #145) » Sun May 24, 2020 1:36 pm

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In post 3773, Pink Ball wrote:Could y'all claim your XP right now?
0 I upgraded.
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Post Post #3782 (isolation #146) » Sun May 24, 2020 1:42 pm

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In post 3781, Pink Ball wrote:
In post 3776, Titus wrote:
In post 3773, Pink Ball wrote:Could y'all claim your XP right now?
0 I upgraded.
And you didn't train?
I don't need exp at all.
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Post Post #3783 (isolation #147) » Sun May 24, 2020 1:42 pm

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The only reason to train is the bg for me.
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Post Post #3785 (isolation #148) » Sun May 24, 2020 1:47 pm

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VOTE: Pink Ball
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Post Post #3804 (isolation #149) » Sun May 24, 2020 2:17 pm

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In post 3800, Ame wrote:No stop unvote please.
Fine.

UNVOTE: PB

We need to lynch Ali or ABR though.
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Post Post #3805 (isolation #150) » Sun May 24, 2020 2:19 pm

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In post 3803, Pink Ball wrote:Nah dude Raven caught me, fair an square! She caught all the inconsistencies in my play!
Hey! That's my move.
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Post Post #3809 (isolation #151) » Sun May 24, 2020 2:24 pm

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In post 3807, Ame wrote:
In post 3750, Titus wrote:At least y'all know Raven's town now.
What was the point of this?
To highlight the waste of time and antitownness of ABR's tunnel just to foreclose him from that avenue.
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Post Post #3812 (isolation #152) » Sun May 24, 2020 2:27 pm

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Being home last night is only an alibi if Ali was targeted. Y'all are going to assume that's true. I think that's an assumption that Ame is making because no one died.
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Post Post #3813 (isolation #153) » Sun May 24, 2020 2:27 pm

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In post 3812, Titus wrote:Being home last night is only an alibi if Ali was targeted. Y'all are going to assume that's true. I think that's an assumption that Ame is making because no one died.
Ali = Ame
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Post Post #3847 (isolation #154) » Sun May 24, 2020 3:02 pm

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In post 3845, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 3826, Pink Ball wrote:VOTE: TSE
No. TSE and i were checked yesterday.

If we keep PB/ame to lylo we win but everyone is going to ask for replacement because raven is not fun to play with.

We have to lynch titus.
It's you that's toxic ABR.

How are you cleared with no kill last night?
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Post Post #3852 (isolation #155) » Sun May 24, 2020 3:04 pm

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In post 3850, Raven Branwen wrote:
In post 3842, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 3840, Raven Branwen wrote:
In post 3835, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
Kill: Raven
How can I be scum with confirmed 4 XP yesterday? I was going to tell Titus that she was being unfair to you, misreading your play but if you seriously think I still could be scum, eventhough my XP level confirms that I couldn’t have possibly killed Raya than, I have no words.

You keep doing illogical things like this. Saying Titus is ninja or godfather and now, ignoring the obvious fact that I would have been dead after NK15 shot me if I was scum. *smdh*
I dont think youre scum. Youre just not fun to play with at all and i prefer to lynch you so i have more fun
. I dont know why you are so immature and useless
.
You will 100% regret this post. :] Totally not cool dude. I have done absolutely nothing to warrant it.
That's ABR. If you question him, you're either toxic, antitown or scum. Notice how he won't respond to how he's clear if there was no kill last night.
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Post Post #3855 (isolation #156) » Sun May 24, 2020 3:06 pm

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In post 3851, Albert B. Rampage wrote:my vote is on Titus for the rest of the game until town wins.

If we are page 154 without the last scum dead its because of raven doing bad things for several days straight.
Good luck with that mislynch attempt.

You can't stop me. The venge mechanic is in play for you if you still insist on gamethrowing.

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Post Post #3858 (isolation #157) » Sun May 24, 2020 3:08 pm

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In post 3856, Albert B. Rampage wrote:i regret nothing, you are the worst. Everyone is leaving a game that town should easily win.
That's because of you and your scum play. You sit here going after cleared town while trying to hide behind being tracked on a no kill night.

My PoE has you or Ali.

Given you're always voting me, this just makes sense.
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Post Post #3860 (isolation #158) » Sun May 24, 2020 3:09 pm

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In post 3859, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 3854, Pink Ball wrote:Yeah ABR, chill dude.
You ask me to chill? You and ame are conftown and demoralized because SOMEONE is completely useless, doesnt want or is incapable of helping us win.

I think the final scum should give up and we end the game here because its extremely not fun for anyone.
Then surrender.
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Post Post #3866 (isolation #159) » Sun May 24, 2020 3:13 pm

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In post 3864, Pink Ball wrote:I'm so upset with myself for fucks sake I really think I had a shot at winning this, I played it superbly. I'm a fucking idiot.
You're not an idiot. You used ABR well.
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Post Post #3872 (isolation #160) » Sun May 24, 2020 3:15 pm

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In post 3869, Pink Ball wrote:You guys clearly shouldn't play with each other, why do you put yourself into this situations.
I wasn't aware he was in the game when I subbed in. I personally feel ABR should have been permabanned ages ago but that's the mods discretion.
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Post Post #3879 (isolation #161) » Sun May 24, 2020 3:19 pm

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I voted scum after Raven pointed out the slip. I may not be perfect, but I can see when I am wrong and admit it.
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Post Post #3889 (isolation #162) » Sun May 24, 2020 3:23 pm

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In post 3883, Raven Branwen wrote:
In post 3878, Pink Ball wrote:Raven you're not MVP. Ame is the MVP. Mechanics won this game and he was the most mechanical player
I’m sorry if I hurt your feelings but denying me proper credit is super hurtful. I wouldn’t do that to you. :(
You know. Eventually, your reputation will precede you. Don't worry about credit for wins.

You and I were a solid town block.
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Post Post #3905 (isolation #163) » Sun May 24, 2020 3:32 pm

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In post 3898, Raven Branwen wrote:<3

I honestly don’t know which hurts more, being denied credit for a scum win due to bitter town or a town win. I think the latter because being a being town mvp has always been far more important to me than winning as scum.
I don't give out MVPs, but you earned respect in my book. It's rather hard to get me to walk away from my VCA but you did that, even if you were a broken clock. So take that as you will.
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Post Post #3908 (isolation #164) » Sun May 24, 2020 3:34 pm

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I forgot tbh. I was just looking at available sub-ins.
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Post Post #3922 (isolation #165) » Sun May 24, 2020 3:43 pm

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ABR, I have no intention of ever playing with you again. The only person you show respect to is yourself and you sub out to preserve your win rate. I don't think you are healthy for the site as a whole.
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