Open 56 - Masons and Monks (GAME OVER) before 542

[kabenon007]

Vote:farside22

a) His avatar reminds me of the damn dog from duck hunting, laughing at me whenever I miss the stupid duck...
b) His name reminds me of the FarSide comics, which are obviously written by scum Gary Larson.

[kabenon007]

Obviously my inner child was scarred very badly by a laughing dog and a farside cartoon... and my inner child doesn't want to talk to you no more...

[kabenon007]

But is it biologically advantageous to use any of them? I say we do the environment a favor and use that which there is an overabundance of: cats.

[kabenon007]

Touche, Mr. Dodge. Touche.

unvote, vote kuribo

. Let the scum hunting commence!

[kabenon007]

Naw, Draux is too smart of a scum to deliberately side with his partner... Draux's partner is the one he doesn't even talk to... dun dun dun!

[kabenon007]

Farside, your avatars are steadily getting creepier...

[kabenon007]

Is it pronounced ass-hatery, or as-shatery? Because both are plausible.

[kabenon007]

Confirm vote on kuribo. For trying to get his own ass and hat out of the asshatery. And I think if I'm not mistaken the hat is a... *gasp* fedora!

[kabenon007]

Kuribo is an asshatter-hater. I know how Draux behaves will his partner cuz we had a pretty awesome stint as scum partners once. It pretty much rocked. And you think my vote was OMGUS? Silly boy...

[kabenon007]

I demand proof, because omitting a joke post or two, I have done nothing of the sort.

This is exactly why I chose to vote kuribo. He seems to be trying to hard to find scum. Like, trying to hard to be town. I find that the people who try to derail the fun are usually the scum trying to act like townies. At the very least, he is the scummiest at the moment, so that is where my vote will rest.

[kabenon007]

Okay. I can see where you're coming from at this point. But I really haven't seen much else yet, and at least it has sparked some conversation. I admit, and have admitted, that it was a rather flimsy tell, but it's just something I could think of. I wasn't going to lynch you for it. I just wanted some reaction. Which I got. From many people.

[kabenon007]

I think I should be taking offense at that...

[kabenon007]

One, a wiki link that lead nowhere... great help...
Two, I know exactly what I'm doing. I may have been mistaken, but that does not automatically make me a newb.

[kabenon007]

But isn't it possible? I mean, I'm a theatre major, and we're told to avoid overracting, and what kuribo was doing seemed to be overracting to me. Overracting to be town, so how does it suck? I don't care if I'm wrong, I just want to know.

[kabenon007]

That's fine if it sucks, but can you at least explain why you think it sucks, so I can either agree or disagree?

[kabenon007]

As is evidenced with our current situation.

[kabenon007]

Um, I agree with JDodge here. The only way one can possibly know if someone is scum is if they are that person's scum partner. I found a good place for my vote to go.

unvote vote:LutenitPowwel

[kabenon007]

Well, I'm kind of indignant that he keeps defending me. I don't think I need him to defend me, I can defend myself just fine. Now that you mention it, it kind of seems like something I would do to lead up to a false scumbuddy. Make the town think that my scum partner was a townie. He is avoiding questions, no doubt about that. I'm just inherently suspicious of people who defend me, even if it's true, cuz it seems like they are just setting me up to take a fall for them later. If that makes sense. It makes sense in my head at least.

[kabenon007]

Alot of your argument is hypothetical, though, and you have no way of knowing whether Oman would defend you for whatever reason

.

The exact same could be said of your argument that Oman is my scum buddy. You only have hypothetical thoughts of the reasons behind Oman's defense. It's exactly the same as what you said to me. Judge me by my own actions, not by the actions of others.

[kabenon007]

I inferred it from post 137. You can't tell me that you weren't implying that's what you meant. You may not have said it explicitly, but it was implied. By bringing up the fact of a "possibly link" that means you yourself thought of said link. So I perhaps put a bit more emphasis on it than you, but oh well.

[kabenon007]

Well Draux, I would put him around 7. Still 3 away from confirmed scum, but above neutral status.

Kuribo, I will infer as much as I wish to infer from your posts. If we just went by what was said literally, it would be much harder to catch the scums. Therefore, we must dig into the posts and infer from them the information which was being hidden from us, should there be any. Any information not implicitly stated is automatically discarded for you? Fantastic. That's sarcasm by the way.

[kabenon007]

LP is at around almost slightly underneath an 8.

[kabenon007]

Well, I don't like assigning a number to a person's scum factor, especially cuz they change so often. But in good faith I did so. Don't like it, but did it anyway.

[kabenon007]

Forgive me if I don't give the previous post any credit whatsoever, as you wouldn't like anything I do.

[kabenon007]

Why would you like it if I wouldn't be scum? That would make me townie, and that would mean you are pushing the lynch of a townie... got something to confess?

[kabenon007]

Great, what's not to buy about it? I owned up to the mistake, I just have used it before, and it wasn't frowned upon, so I didn't see anything wrong with it. I can't help it if you don't agree with it.

As for lack of scum hunting, I have been thinking about this for a little while now and I have decided to

unvote, vote: Oman

. I have been wondering why he has been constantly defending me, even after I questioned his motives behind it. I can only assume that he is scum who thought he was going to have more votes and was trying to set up a connection between himself and me so if he was lynched, at least he would take an innocent with him.

[kabenon007]

Draux, Oman has been defending me throughout. I specifically said that I didn't need help, and he continues to defend actions that I can defend myself. The evidence of his defense is there, go see it. There are more than what pwayne has found. See post 92, 177. Couple those with the fact that he hasn't really attacked me, makes it seem like he and I are buddies.

[kabenon007]

Um, wtf does your last post mean, Oman? It makes absolutely no sense. Way to try and act like you are doing something, scum.

[kabenon007]

Oman, now you're just being lazy, I've already posted some posts in which you defend me, pwayne did so earlier. Congratulations on not reading the thread scum.

[kabenon007]

This is insanity.

THIS IS SPARTA!!!!

[kabenon007]

TylerJ, you fail utterly. We had no night one, there could be no cop investigation. There is only one other option, but I won't tell you what that is. Tell me, why would flameaxe know, Tyler?

[kabenon007]

JDodge, try to keep up. I am not speculating on cop existence, I am pointing out that that is probably what TylerJ is thinking, and it cannot happen, therefore he needs another reason for Flameaxe to KNOW that thinktank is scum. And there is only one.

[kabenon007]

Can't refute it, so you resort to sarcasm? Tough luck.

[kabenon007]

Sad, isn't it?

[kabenon007]

Thanks Flameaxe. Took the words off of my keyboard.

[kabenon007]

right, so why don't you know that there is no cop, and therefore no day cop?

[kabenon007]

Well, I feel comfortable switching my vote now, seeing as how no one seems to think Oman is scum...

unvote, vote:LutenitPowell

Four votes is hardly something to react so much to.

[kabenon007]

Well, Tyler, that was extremely scummy. We wanted LP to claim, not die.

[kabenon007]

My lack of adding... but it's there, and therefore not lacking... you're just spamming now JD. But keep reaching. I enjoy seeing you flounder about.

[kabenon007]

Vote:Tyler

We had wanted to wait for a claim from LP, among many other things that inadvertently cut short by your premature voteculation.

[kabenon007]

Why must I forget them?

Vote:Tyler

[kabenon007]

I agree with pwayne. He wouldn't type argh, he would just say it if it were truly what he were feeling. He therefore has some reason to type "argh" and pwayne hit it on the head.

[kabenon007]

My posts do not point at thinktank? What do you mean?

[kabenon007]

I haven't said that much to RossWilliam, to Draux, are they my scum buddies as well? Would I really be that stupid and completely ignore my scum buddy? I know that gets into WIFOM, but still... come on.

[kabenon007]

So then your accusation is false. Your main argument is that I haven't said anything to thinktank, but you fail to take into account that I have done the same thing to two other people. Therefore, your theory should apply to all, and since there are not four scum on the same team, your theory is flawed.

[kabenon007]

From our games together, that seems to be Flameaxe's style. I have no idea why, but I will not be voting for it. You may as well not waste your breath asking him to put his suspicions in thread. He won't do it.

[kabenon007]

Sorry, I got the prod, I've been really busy getting back into the swing of things with college, and this game fell to the wayside. My bad. I still like my vote on Tyler, as I do not believe he has defended himself enough yet.

[kabenon007]

That is actually a very good note... good enough to get me off of Tyler, and back onto Oman.

unvote, vote:Oman

That's -1, I believe. But, kuribo, weren't you convinced of thinktank and I being partners? Your scum buddy suspicions are switched quite often, don't you think?

[kabenon007]

I do not believe I have slid under the radar. I have been providing information. I admit, my participation has been a little lower in this game than most, but eh, there you go. You'll have that in some games. I have been providing though, so I guess that makes me the middle ground?

[kabenon007]

So you've got a choice between me and thinktank and Flameaxe and thinktank... why wouldn't you choose the one who's in both of those lists if you want the one you are more sure about?

[kabenon007]

Well, not much to say, except that Flameaxe still is playing that same game as usual, thinktank I am beginning to get pissed at. It seems to me that he is trying to pass the buck onto me. He is acting like he has given up his life and is instead trying to pin himself to a townie, or even more hopefully, another scum team member, so that the town will think that the patsy is thinktank's scum buddy. It just seems too obvious, doesn't it?

[kabenon007]

Why is that funny to you? It's happen to me before, and let me tell you, it really pisses me off. If something is so obvious, can you really take it seriously?

[kabenon007]

I am extremely annoyed with tank. He appears to be trying to connect himself with me, so if we lynch him and he comes up scum, you will all assume I am his partner and just lynch me with no discussion. Flameaxe annoys me because he doesn't participate in the conversation, just keeps interjecting with "Lynch tank, kthxbai." The last exchange with farside and tank I think made farside come out on top, it seems that tank is just repeating himself over and over again. Let's see what he has to say to that. Also, to this

unvote, vote:thinktank.

Let's see what happens here.

[kabenon007]

Ask yourself this, Tyler. What would a townie say in my position? Tank is trying to make it look like I am his buddy, how do I say anything to the contrary without it seeming like distancing? I can't.

[kabenon007]

If you are town, then tell me, who else do you think is scum, tank? As likely as your lynch seems, your top priority as town would be to give us as much information as you've got.

[kabenon007]

Has think even brought a case against me?

[kabenon007]

Yeah, that's a stupid excuse, tank. We want as much information as possible, and if you were townie, you would want to provide as much as possible. Besides, it's more than likely you'll be dead, so you really should just post your case (if you have one) so I can refute and we can lynch you.

[kabenon007]

Which part do you want me to direct you to, pwayne?

[kabenon007]

See, pwayne, this is what I'm talking about, almost exactly. Tank is basically making it look like I am his partner. He's just setting up tomorrow's lynch. He has, as farside has already pointed out, called me scummy and not voted, he has continued to push his case on farside all the while claiming me to be scum as well, but never presenting his case, which I'm willing to bet does not exist. He's sucking at defending me, his "scum partner" on purpose, so that you all tomorrow will just go oh yes, tank gave away his partner yesterday, and then lynch me and then we'll be screwed, cuz we're pretty close to end game now with two scum groups both with two members. There are only three townies left, so tank is just trying to take either one of them or who he hopes is another scum group down with him the next day.

[kabenon007]

See, that's what he was at the beginning, just some dude, as you said. But the fact that his actions caused you all to look at me in a scummy way makes me predisposed for you to think I am scummy. If think hadn't been doing what he is, would you consider me scummy?

[kabenon007]

OMGUS would happen because I am voting you based on your voting me, or attacking me. But you haven't done any of that, have you?

[kabenon007]

But I thought your thoughts about me being scummy were solely based on thinktank's actions towards me. What is the case on me now?

[kabenon007]

Well, Flameaxe has always acted like this in every game I've played with him, so I can't really get a good read on him. His suspicions, however, mirror my own, so I don't know if that's points for him or not.

Tyler I was suspicious of before for his quick coming in and lynching of Powell, which I can't remember if he ever answered our questions or not. He's my top pick for the day, but seeing as how we are in a pretty dire predicament here, I will refrain from voting for him at the moment. But consider this as you would a vote, just without the lynch power.

As for you, farside, I'd have to say if anything, I'm leaning toward town, just for the fact that the other two are more scummy than you. You held your own against think's stupid accusations, but you didn't focus solely on think, you were looking at the bigger picture as well.

So my scum list would look like this:
Tyler
Flameaxe
Farside

Two scum remain, but at least they are separate teams, so they cannot coordinate their votes against the town, which is a plus for us. But I have bad news for us. Town cannot win this. It's just a battle between the scums now. Even if we lynch one today, the remaining scum will just kill off one townie and then endgame the other. What is the point in our helping at all anymore?

In fact, no-lynch is the only way to go.

Vote: No-Lynch.

If we no-lynch, the scum know it is their own best interest to try and target the last scum for the NK. So, hopefully, they will take each other out in the NK round. That is the only hope for the town.

[kabenon007]

If they kill the same target, the town still loses. The only hope is for the scum to crosskill. Is that even possible?

[kabenon007]

Oh, another chance for a crosskill! I see! I misunderstood you.

[kabenon007]

That was fun! I almost pulled out and killed farside, but figured Flameaxe was trying to act town with his last post and voting for No-lynch. Damn. Great game everyone! Had a blast!

[kabenon007]

Good question. I believe it was I was trying to kill someone who wasn't attacking me, so it wouldn't incriminate me.

[kabenon007]

Yep. Crazy dumb luck.