Open 56 - Masons and Monks (GAME OVER) before 542

[TylerJ]

Vote: Flameaxe

Did someone say... Bandwagon?

[TylerJ]

Sorry for the absense will read up tommorow.

[TylerJ]

Crap is there any scumhunting whatsoever? Sorry for being a hypcrite for not doing so myself, but honestly I could care less about asophoguses and asshates and all that other junk.

The only scummy things I saw in this game so far were these. Oman voting for himself. Two times I have seen that, and both times the people were scum. However, in the context given, I honestly think he was playing around. The too towny argument seemed like scum was fishing for a reason to accuse someone too... but it isn't enough for a vote.

So for now I will suffice it to say

unvote, FOS Oman and whoever made that too towny argument

not good with names if you hadn't noticed.

[TylerJ]

I still don't think were going anywhere. We may be pushing on a rock but we need to push a little harder. I am completely lost in Jdodges and Omans argument. None of the points make either of them look scummy. Perhaps I should read it a few more times to see their points.

[TylerJ]

Farside, I agree. White noise. although that could be because of my lack of activity. Apoplogies. I'll try to step it up.

I find many votes to slung without a whole lot of weight. Flameaxe especially, one page he votes for Oman, the other he votes for Jdodge. LutenitPowwel joined in on the slinging without much reason too.

Oman and Jdodges argument seems to distracting and nonsensical. I often find Omans play to make no sense whatsoever (reffering to another game as well). As to the alignment of either cases, I wouldn't know.

If you are wondering why I am not voting for anyone yet, it is because 1st my inactivity, and 2nd while I have suspicions, they only go as far as FOS'es. I don't like vote slinging.

I also agree with kuribo's sentiment about kabenon's 127 post.

[TylerJ]

He didn't have to stretch to much, actually.

My mistake, you didn't vote for JD, malfunctioning memory here. You voted thinktank though.

[TylerJ]

Yes, but throwing your vote implies that you either have little conviction, or you are easily persuaded. I Would tend to agree with the first. The lack of conviction behind who you vote for is what is scummy, not the fact that you are voting for someone.

[TylerJ]

Draux, I found the same thing...

[TylerJ]

been absent... holidays... I read up but Im to tired to understand. Will post tommorow.

Also note that I will be gone th3 27-30.

[TylerJ]

kiribo, what evidence do you have against oman?

[TylerJ]

mistake again...

did a reread that was highly beneficial, but nothing as far as long lists of quotes.
I really didn't see the case against oman until oman completely attempted to avoid the question. I did find him a litle suspicious for voting himself earlier, but not much so. Note that if Oman didn't act like this in other games, I would have already voted him.

Flameaxes voting without reason was interesting enough to not as well.


lutinetpowell caught my attention as well when he posted 1-10 scale evaluation on himself. Why would he do that? I find that often times people tend to attempt lessening suspicion by bringing up a case against themselves before anyone else does. No one wants to be redundent, so if you brought a scummy case against your self, then perhaps no one else will. I definately find it scummy that he would evaluate himself and find his own rating high, almost like voting for yourself.

[TylerJ]

I'm back! I'll do a reread as soon as I can.

[TylerJ]

Why isn't thinktank dead yet. I have never seen something so obvious... Just to let you know though, flameaxe you clould have done a little better.

Vote:Thinktank

[TylerJ]

I have not misread. I cannot tell you why for the same reason that flameaxe cannot. It is so rediculously obvious that I have no clue why no one else seems to understand. Think, how would flameaxe know, and why would he not say how he knew.

[TylerJ]

Ahhh, yeah... True. But can his claimed day cop role work? If it doesn't then I will remove my vote.

[TylerJ]

it's when we know the roles that are in the game right?

Unvote

[TylerJ]

Hence my unvote, and since he falsly claimed

Vote:flameaxe

[TylerJ]

I screw up and forget that this is an open setup and everyone calls me stupid. Seriously, It's STUPID that everyone is willing to degrade a person for one mistake. Did I miss the fact that this was a game, if people want to continue name calling and degrading others, call me out.

RossWilliam I fail to see how forgetting this is an open game is a scumtell. Opportunistic indeed.

[TylerJ]

Continue the name calling and I will leave. It had nothing to do with intellegence, just lack of studying what kind of game we were in (ie forgetfulness). Games aren't meant to degrade each other and I am getting fed up with it. call me a poor sport, but then you'd be hypocritical for calling me names.

[TylerJ]

[quote="LutenitPowwel"]Thicker than a slab of canadian bacon.[\quote]

One more and I am out.

[TylerJ]

you guys are ridiculous. really. tyler is too sensitive but you guys are ridiculous ass clowns.

Too sensitive... perhaps, but the #1 Dis I can't stand is someone saying I am stupid. I can pretty much handle anything else. And no this isn't me giving permission for you to slander me.

[TylerJ]

please explain the votes on LP.

[TylerJ]

holy smokes, somethings not right with this picture, well then again, we are at a deadline.

As for the LP explanation thnx. it clears things up. But before I do a hammer (which I highly doubt I will), I will have to reread.

Ohh, and farside, thanx for the sentiments.

[TylerJ]

For his lame vote on thinktank and his wierd evaluation on himself I am considering it...


Arrghh... what the heck.

vote:lutinetpowell

[TylerJ]

See how far that takes you.

[TylerJ]

Why I did what I did....

Because of my lack of activity due to work and school starting back up and play practice, I had forgotten why LP seemed suspicious. That was why I reread.

When I reread I found that LP was infact scummy. I didn't think about letting him claim because it just wasn't on my mind. Contrary to what pwayne says, I wasn't going for the uncertain look, I wasn't going for any look. I just voted because we were on a deadline and he was scummy. Granted I thought others were scummy, but I figured I should put my vote somewhere that would do good (unfortunately we all see that it wasn't that good).

I regret making a rash decision on the vote, I realize I should have waited for a claim and thought about it a little more, but what is done is done.

[TylerJ]

I wrote arghh because I had changed my mind... I could be a little set in my ways sometimes...

So I would disagree with both of you.

[TylerJ]

Hi, apologies for the length of time since I was last on, I read but didn't gather anything so far, my mind is mush now, I will attempt a better read tommorow.

[TylerJ]

Hey, I'm back, argghhh. days are getting shorter and shorter. But as of tommorow it will slow down. So, because of my disappearance and reapperance, everything is white noise and needs a second read.

two things I would like to mention though. First, I already gave my defense, I plead insanity. I made a rash and stupid move.

Secondly, Flameaxe is really getting on my nerves. If infact you find thinktank suspicious, TELL US WHY. Black and White, no beating around the bush.

[TylerJ]

No I am not lurking, I Hate lurking. But I am back.

Catching up and posting who I think is scum.

[TylerJ]

Tyler, I don't accepted rashness to be an acceptable defense due to the fact that it is virtually impossible to be rash in a forum. By the time you finish typing and hit send, you've had ample times to consider what your doing, and if you have any doubts, it's your duty to stop and really decide if that action is what you want to do. Rashness means nothing on the forum

Rashness was used to describe that I had an inclination not to post what I did, but ignored the inclination. the word doesn't fit that accurately. But I am merely explaining that while it is true that people have a better opportunity to catch their mistakes before they post, it doesn't mean they do so. And while it should be my duty, I don't live up to all expectations.

If any of you don't like my defense, oh well. It is sufficient enough in the way that that is what happened, and if you don't like, oh well. So if you expect more of a defense on this issue, your not getting it.

[TylerJ]

As for those of you who want me to state who I find suspicious...

It is really hard to scum hunt after an absence, and frankly I'm not very good at it. Nevertheless, here is what I do have. Flameaxes insistance that Thinktank is scum on little to none reason (at least he says he has a reason) is pretty scummy. I also have the same sentiments with Thinktank about Kuribo. Kuribo's did have a hint of distancing in it. Although, due to my lack of activity, I am not satisfied with voting for any one right yet.

[TylerJ]

FLAMEAXE POST WHY YOU THINK THINKTANK IS SCUM. MAKE IT ABSOLUTELY CLEAR. AND PROVIDE EVIDENCE.

[TylerJ]

Really? Prove me wrong and quote it.

[TylerJ]

Then I assume that you don't have an argument...

[TylerJ]

So we're both making assumptions... I see the validity in your statement. But by no means does that make my statement invalid. You have no evidence.

[TylerJ]

Unvote, vote: thinktank

I explained my vote, and you even mentioned it in your post! I've said plenty worthwhile.

In reference to following your asophogus...

Unvote, vote: Thinktank

@flameaxe. Why thinktank?

For being a hypocrite.

Yes, but the thing is...it's not just you being a hypocrite, its what you are being hypocritical about. I'm gonna give someone else a chance to look over your posts to see if they find it too! It's like a game!

Don't be silly, thinktank is scum.

It's anti-town being scum and all. We should kill him already.

Stop being scum and/or alive.

Flameaxes voting without reason was interesting enough to not as well.

I had no reason now? Okay then. Assumptions are cool, and thinktank is scum.

I found scum, what more do you want?

Because I'm clearly a daycop.

Vote: Thinktank

Prodded, nothing has changed, thinktank is still scum.

But I caught you as scum. Clearly I can't be stupid for that. Lazy maybe.

I've already stated why in full detail why I'm voting thinktank.

Please find your reasons in this mess, because obviously I am too much of a lazy, stupid townie to find it on my own.

*gasps* "how did you know we were scumbuddies?" Ur dum applies here...

[TylerJ]

I looked at all of your posts from page 1, that's all I found worth mentioning. Man, am I an idiot or what...(sarcasm was added).

[TylerJ]

^^^ agreed.

[TylerJ]

You missed the logic: He stated that was sarcasm. This is also an open game.

[TylerJ]

I have to agree, Oman, you just made a big mistake. And for once, my vote is anything but rash.

Vote:Oman

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And Flameaxe,

love how now you are the one telling everyone this. It gives me big lulz.

You probably meant this as an insult, but in a light hearted way, I actually agree with the oddity of it. I think it's funny.

[TylerJ]

Only that I think it's funny that after I accused Oman of defending his "scumbuddy," (as I put it), thinktank, they turned on one another.

Wonder what that's about, hmm?

interesting to note...

[TylerJ]

And if me and Oman were a scum team, does it really make sense for me to put a 3rd vote on him when it takes a lot more to lynch? Not at all. Not at all.

WIFOM actually...

Plus, I have to admit, that wasn't the best of defenses. Honestly, the noose is getting tighter around yours and Omans neck.

[TylerJ]

you found a nice snuggly wagon

Whether or not it is a good wagon is irrelevant to me. And I expect to hear such a response from you. I can't expect you to say, "Man! You caught me," could I? Keep in mind that I wouldn't vote him solely on a weak defense either, I'm merely mentioning that he isn't convincing me. Nice defense for Thinktank though...

[TylerJ]

What do you mean whether or not the good wagon is irrelevant to you? of course it is relevant to you if you're on it. Oman is scum and let me know which it is you think I am doing, do you think I am attempting to distance myself from him or bus him but you would be clearly wrong on both fronts.

I mean that I am not finding you scummy because there is a wagon on you. whether or not there was a wagon on you, I would find you scummy. Distancing and bussing pretty much hold the same. And of course you would say I am wrong, like I said to Oman, I can't expect you to admit it.

[TylerJ]

Flameaxe shutup! Im getting sick and tired of your stupid posts!

Now, thinktanks last post, while it was useful, seemed to be a scummy attempt to look town, I say this because I have witnessed others do it, however this evidence is weak at best.

Farside, you seemed to try to push for people to look scummy as well. It is one thing to provide evidence, and another to use WIFOM. WIFOM is the best and thus the most dangerous way to manipulate.

I find kuribo scummy. *sarcasm*

[TylerJ]

I don't have anything else to say. Sorry, I just did a reread on two other games, so I don't think my brain can handle this one too.

[TylerJ]

I actually like thinktanks take on farside. Not say I agree because I need to look into it more. Conversely, I like farsides take on thinktank as well. man, what a mix up. Wait, what if they were a scumpair -Yeah right! lol.

[TylerJ]

Arghh.. same thoughts. Who to vote for Kabenon, farside, or thinktank. I'm leaning more on the farside ( pun not intended).

[TylerJ]

I am extremely annoyed with tank. He appears to be trying to connect himself with me, so if we lynch him and he comes up scum, you will all assume I am his partner and just lynch me with no discussion. Flameaxe annoys me because he doesn't participate in the conversation, just keeps interjecting with "Lynch tank, kthxbai." The last exchange with farside and tank I think made farside come out on top, it seems that tank is just repeating himself over and over again. Let's see what he has to say to that. Also, to this

unvote, vote:thinktank.

Let's see what happens here.

Sounds like a distancing post...

[TylerJ]

Ask yourself this, Tyler. What would a townie say in my position? Tank is trying to make it look like I am his buddy, how do I say anything to the contrary without it seeming like distancing? I can't.

Good point, but tanks post is good as well. I think all three of you could be scum (not all of you together though). So to get things rolling, I will

vote: farside

[TylerJ]

vote: farside

Rofl. I can see where you can draw that conclusion. Funny enough, it seems like a perfect fit. But I can assure you that you are totally off.

[TylerJ]

I'm leaning more on the farside

Why? You list three players that everybody else is suspicious of and then say this. This is not content.

Thinktank, farside, and kabenon all seem suspicious to me. Did you miss that?

[TylerJ]

Actually, I voted for you for the reasons thinktank stated. I don't want to reiderate.

[TylerJ]

Tyler.

Funny, before I even read this I was thinking "If thinktank turns out scum who is most likely to be his partner?". Instead of coming up with the obvious kabenon answer, I came up with flameaxe.

[TylerJ]

Tyler.

Funny, before I even read this I was thinking "If thinktank turns out scum who is most likely to be his partner?". Instead of coming up with the obvious kabenon answer, I came up with flameaxe.

This makes a lot of sense.

Your right, it does.

[TylerJ]

flameaxe and kabonoon have my attention. Farside does to, but I think it would be safe to say that thinktank and farside weren't partners.