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LMFAO FUCK YOUIn post 1535, Vedith wrote:In post 1532, TwoFace wrote:over the top fake AtE
You're in for a treat.In post 1526, Dierfire wrote:xSoniaNevermindx replaces Creeps20-
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I don't re read.In post 1536, Joshz wrote:Lol I didn't see the mod note and got really confused
Hi Sonia. Maybe you'll be done your read through before aj!
Although I may check the flipped scums iso but that's prob it.
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I felt like it.In post 1543, TwoFace wrote:
Then why did you replace in?In post 1540, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:I don't re read.
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Another Mason game? Oh boy.In post 1545, Joshz wrote:
my opinion is math targeted nacho who was the nk. couldve easily been direct targeted but eh, i dont see it, and the mason besides nacho has been less active and generates less discussion. i want to also say nacho has better reads but he town reads me and luv scum reads me so clearly as the only one that knows im townie im heavily biased in that.In post 1540, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:
I don't re read.In post 1536, Joshz wrote:Lol I didn't see the mod note and got really confused
Hi Sonia. Maybe you'll be done your read through before aj!
Although I may check the flipped scums iso but that's prob it.
Was Math a likely nk or was it prob from bg?
anyways, what id ideally want from you is to, if you wont reread (i completely disagree but whatever i also get that its a ton of effort), skim the iso's of first fitz and then nacho/aj and give your thoughts. i town read your slot or id be more concerned with you not rereading.
Aj/nacho are masons I assume?
Did the mason claim d1 before the bg target or after.-
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I don't see the advantage to read a confirmed town's iso because that would just influence my own opinion but I promise to read the scums iso either later or tomorrow
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In post 1550, Gamma Emerald wrote:People that are Conftown/probtown
TwoFace - fitz push Lol.
Lil Uzi Vert - mason sure.
Frankjaeger - backup BG ehhhhhhh okay
Gamma Emerald - fitz push Lol.
Nachomamma8 - mason sure.
Joshz - predecessor Eric townslipped Where?-
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Just coming out of a game with masons it's def a "wait a minute" flag.In post 1552, Joshz wrote:and the reason i want you to read aj/hiraki is that i cant decide which is more likely scum because both have compelling cases and it is likely only 1 is scum
frank is only conftown if you think the setup is likely to have a backup bg (bg and masons being only other prs afaik) or not, though i think most people agree hes prolly telling the truth.
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I'd have felt better if it was said out in the open cause it seems like a save my ass claim.In post 1561, Joshz wrote:
under pressure, he was being lynched. fwiw me and the masons were also on his wagon and scum reading him. i am too new to assert whether or not the setup made sense with a backup bg so i let them decide.In post 1555, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:
Just coming out of a game with masons it's def a "wait a minute" flag.In post 1552, Joshz wrote:and the reason i want you to read aj/hiraki is that i cant decide which is more likely scum because both have compelling cases and it is likely only 1 is scum
frank is only conftown if you think the setup is likely to have a backup bg (bg and masons being only other prs afaik) or not, though i think most people agree hes prolly telling the truth.
Did he claim under pressure or was there a massclaim type of thing going on.
If it was said in the open I'd stay back for a sec
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I could trigger happy cause my scum buddy claimed bodyguard and won in a game with masons just the game before but it just seems meh.
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Only 5 days jeez I was praying for a bit more time but meh
Top wagon makes sense if what everyone says is true (said they'd vote scum and didn't) What was there defense to this? If they made one that is.-
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This is wrong. feels like a stretch I think 7 years hell I'd assume a lot of games aswell it's not black and white and not being able to tell he's a noob are you srs?In post 1612, Nachomamma8 wrote:
He thought that site newbies couldn't get scum, which is fairly common as far as "other site metas" go. 7 years of experience also doesn't mean a ton of games which is something you should know by now; you should also be able to tell that he's probably a newbie by his play style regardless of what he states in thread.In post 1573, Aj The Epic wrote:Walk me through the logic of how him believing new players don't get scum when he claims to have played for 7 years. I think I get what you're going for (he's new, thought new can't get scum, ergo isn't scum) but I'm not really seeing it, especially when he claims to have a lot of experience.
idk what you're reaching for but I don't like it
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temptingIn post 1615, Nachomamma8 wrote:If you vote AJ you can procrastinate as long as you like-
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.In post 1619, Hiraki wrote:Nacho is a near-confirmed mason.
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I may have forgot about this
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Not at all he seemed like a clearly new player but the way you're actying I don't read that post as scummy as you do.In post 1622, Nachomamma8 wrote:
And, I'm sorry, but when you read these Eric posts did you assume that he played a ton of games?In post 1562, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:kk just read Eric w/e slot that is seems town to me he's adorable "can we role claim?" "what is d1" awwww <3-
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I just don't see what you find scummy about that post when Aj's logic seems to add up yes eric was acting new but he claimed to have experience so that contradicts what's so BAD anout the post in question-
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I only see this as a problem if Aj used this as a reason to sr the slot.In post 1631, Nachomamma8 wrote:
He was holding him up to "he's been playing 7 years" standard instead of just reading the player. I don't think that AJ would read Eric's posts and get anything except for the conclusion that you drew from reading themIn post 1630, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:I just don't see what you find scummy about that post when Aj's logic seems to add up yes eric was acting new but he claimed to have experience so that contradicts what's so BAD anout the post in question-
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VOTE: AjIn post 1633, Joshz wrote:In post 1378, Aj The Epic wrote:So this is my notification that I'm still reading and such.
A point is I think it's highly likely Joshz is scum. Eric Rasputin was highly suspect and what I've read on this page does nothing to make me warm and fuzzy about the slot. Specifically, drawing on the newb card isn't an excuse for bad play. New players are honest and easily readable as town, if not confused. Inconsistency is a great way to catch the differentiation if nothing else.-
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You can hammer that if you want friend I have my 3 scumreads all set to go.
Pedit: I can read tonight or after the vote is hammered unless I see something major in the scum iso to make me change it-
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shhhh let it die in the thread.In post 1645, Aristophanes wrote:In post 1616, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:
This is wrong. feels like a stretch I think 7 years hell I'd assume a lot of games aswell it's not black and white and not being able to tell he's a noob are you srs?In post 1612, Nachomamma8 wrote:
He thought that site newbies couldn't get scum, which is fairly common as far as "other site metas" go. 7 years of experience also doesn't mean a ton of games which is something you should know by now; you should also be able to tell that he's probably a newbie by his play style regardless of what he states in thread.In post 1573, Aj The Epic wrote:Walk me through the logic of how him believing new players don't get scum when he claims to have played for 7 years. I think I get what you're going for (he's new, thought new can't get scum, ergo isn't scum) but I'm not really seeing it, especially when he claims to have a lot of experience.
idk what you're reaching for but I don't like it
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Aj's issue is the way he's playing given what's been pointed out to me and the little convo I had seems to be screaming opportunistic on jumping on the eric slot it's not disagreeing that's the sr it's the way he went at it.
The reason you're sr isn't about disagreeing either it's just extremely strange you promise to vote scum and never do.
correct me if I'm wrong but where do you see anything that looks like voting cause of a disagreement-
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You would think the person at L-1 would be more frantic/trying harder if himself and his tr were the top 2 lynch choices when it's clear Aj is also a good wagon.
Alright that does it for me
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So you're steamed out I assume is what this post means.In post 1696, Hiraki wrote:AJ hasn't even given his summary yet and hasn't done anything that's actually scummy. See my discussion with xSonia on the difference between what he said and what people think he said.
I don't see how you can scumread Vedith fairly so I don't know how to defend that.
@nacho: Yeah but we're at a little more than a day and 6 hours with xSonia already declaring intent - there's a point where you gotta understand that even though Gamma is literally the scummiest person in the game, you gotta die for him to be lynched D3 wink wink nudge nudge
I'm not going to hop over to the other wagon because it might be nicer
@xSonia - I've been the leading wagon for about the entire day (so about a week now) but this was before you replaced in so I can understand why you didn't see that
Fair but if you've been the leading wagon for a bit this just makes me feel better cause 2 results happen here
A) You're scum yay everyone wins!
B) You're town and everyone has to look at new options cause you'd prob be a fall back lynch at anytime.
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Would you vote your counter wagon if it was a tr or try to get a new one going?In post 1702, Nachomamma8 wrote:
You'd think that Hiraki as scum would be more willing to vote his counterwagon when he's in danger.xSoniaNevermindx wrote:You would think the person at L-1 would be more frantic/trying harder if himself and his tr were the top 2 lynch choices when it's clear Aj is also a good wagon.
Alright that does it for me
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@AjIn post 1700, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:I'll take you up on that offer
I want Aj to give a bit more before I hammer but that's all I'm waiting for at this point-
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Are you fine with this wagon do you think it's gonna flip town/scum
Are you finally caught up or decently so?
If you had to guess a few sr's what would it be
can you explain your top 2 tr's outside of masons a bit more
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If we assume he does die though I'm gonna look at the scum iso (gonna do that anything) and look at a few players and try and some tr's cause you're the next obv lynch choice.-
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I really dislike a point that you did (try to sr eric by treating him of standards) but besides that there's nothing really I can be like "wow look at those posts it's pretty scummy
I should be able to have a read on Gamma quite soon cause I've never read him wrong in the many games we've played together
If you're town Aj what you should be doing is not worry about yourself and just find the scum you think are on these wagons get some tr's and move this forward yourself cause at the end of the day only you can do that-
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You don't need to do it by yourself as this is a team game town has to work as a team to find the scum and scum have to work as a team to protect and guide each other to a winIn post 1754, Aj The Epic wrote:I'm normally not capable of guiding a town by myself, so that's why I think Nacho being alive is so damn paramount. What my main goal is to try and setup the core of a town to be ready for nacho's departure. Yeah I'll work on scumhunting but I think we have to clean this game up to find the town people and engage them first.
If you're better at finding town say "these are town and why"
If you're better at finding scum say "these are scum and way
I know these are very basic points and I could be wasting my breath talking to scum but hey!
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Fixed.In post 1759, FrankJaeger wrote:I'm going to give myself a reason for Nacho to die!-
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^In post 1773, TwoFace wrote:Yeah no wifom. Protect nacho
It's our best bet even if you disagree just do it.-
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Why do you tr me/Twoface?In post 1778, Joshz wrote:Lynch aside, Frank dying there was optimal in my eyes. Cleared up a slot for me that I was unsure of.
No Vote (9): TwoFace, Vedith, Lil Uzi Vert, xSoniaNevermindx, Aj The Epic, Gamma Emerald, Joshz, Aristophanes, Nachomamma8
Luv Sonia Nacho Josh are Town. Twoface probably too (I DONT LIKE HOW HARD HE TUNNELLED ON HIRAKI BUT HWATEVER).
That leaves Vedith, Aj, Gamma, and Aristophanes. 2/4 of those are 90% the scum. Nacho, now is the time to post your towncase on Aristo zzzzzz-
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ewwwwwwIn post 1780, Gamma Emerald wrote:Why are you clearing Sonia
Look at fitz' push on me near the end of Day 1
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Decent answers to what I don't think I've been asked anything.In post 1783, Aj The Epic wrote:VOTE: Sonia
Really it's disappointing, but you've been able to provide no decent answers and instead insisted on going for lynch bait.
What makes gamma lynch bait to you I can read him pretty dam well-
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Not an excuse
I looked at the vote count when he said he should be cleared for a push he didn't have that many votes on him so I don't think why he thinks he should be cleared
Regardless making a statement like "look at me scum pushed on me!" Is bad in almost any case.-
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