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Thank you MOD.
Give me sometime. I ll read the game by tomorrow.Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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In post 1072, MortFeld wrote:Hi ArcAngel! I think your slot has looked pretty objectively Red but I at least am very open minded and mindful of TB's noobness affecting his play. See 779 for a summary of my thoughts at that point - they've changed somewhat since then. Looking forward to you catching up tomorrow.In post 1073, Human Sequencer wrote:Yo arcangel.
You're looking pretty red at the moment, I do hate to say.
Good luck.
Yo!
Thanks for the heads-up. I have to catch up first. Its always the same story. Replacements are scapegoatsInatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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Done till page 5 - A Lot of newbies i can see.
I actually town read creeps. He is just a bad player not scum. That bandwagon on him was bad.
Naomi could be town too. I also town read couple other but will make decision down the road.
I have scum read on TwoFace. He looks like he is playing on everyone side.Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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Awww. Dont replace nero. He is a very good player but he does have a habit of flaking. He is an old friendIn post 1084, keyenpeydee wrote:I'm tired of searching replacements. I'll give Nero Cain until tomorrowInatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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Gawd. I falling behind to read. I think I am at somewhere page 20. My eyes are bleeding.
I don't think creeps is scum. And I also town read Naomi.
I kind of scum read TwoFace the others seems okay, probably i have better thoughts as we go.Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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Don't start this again Nero. You will fail. I promise you love. you will. It doesn't matter if you're the mafia.In post 1309, Nero Cain wrote:
I take this back. I had to really reread it but that TB Copper vote explanation really was shit. I'm not exactly sure why there's no TB/Arc wagon but lets make one.In post 1264, Nero Cain wrote:
Like this seems like the only kinda scummy post from him. As in, scum him has an FOS on both big wagons and gives himself the flexibility to join either.In post 112, ThinkBig wrote:I have a major FOS on Creeps and also on Misa. However, I don't want to put creeps at L-1, especially since Drone has yet to confirm his role.
vote:Arc
Scum found. Good job trying to divert your wagon on me?In post 1314, Human Sequencer wrote:Finally a wagon I can completely get behind.
VOTE: ArcAngel
@Nero, votes outside of votetags aren't counted by this mod.
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In post 1332, TwoFace wrote:Well let's solve that issue. Idk what happened to the HS wagon but it needs to happen.
VOTE: Hs
I'll catch-up today
I have my doubts on you but this point of time I support this wagon.Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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In post 1349, Human Sequencer wrote:I feel a lot better about Kamelot. Still could be scum, but it's getting increasingly less likely.
Shadow step is still an enigma. Null read.
We really need to get a wagon together. Town is stagnating. I don't see how anybody can read TB as green and all Arc has done is try and flip a wagon back on me.
Because you never explained your reasons behind calling me scum. And as I am relatively new and replaced into the game and you motive behind pushing my wagon doesn't seem town.In post 1350, TwoFace wrote:i'd be ok with an arc lynch
For the very good reason that he is trying to get my lynched with no real case. My case is legitimate.In post 1352, MortFeld wrote:It's not necessary for me to give a picture Green!TB. We'll just say that Green!TB is possible and that as Red or Green, TB was in over their head this game.
I'm definitely stuck in this nebulous world where the game looks very different after various flips but I'm not sure who is more likely to be Red.
Sure, let's do this. VOTE: Arcangel. Why HS?
Yes indeed. It doesn't matter to you because you're scum. And for the sake of site meta. Stop referring as Green & Red. Use town and mafia/scum.In post 1373, Human Sequencer wrote:Arc flipping green isn't the end of the world to me. In that situation, I just go through my not-greenreads and rank them from scummiest to least scummiest and how they interacted with the arc wagon.
Much more interesting is looking at the people on arcs wagon if she flips green, just as it would be for anybody else.
And how sure are you to indicate those who support my wagon seems least scummiest it to you? So you know for sure mafia dont want to push my wagon if i am town? See that's very contradicting of yourselfInatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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Nero is dumb and he chases every bone he find on the road. That's just him. He doesn't read game, he dices and choose someone to call some to be active in the game. That's just typical Nero. No offense nero, I still love you but thats what who you're
and on the other had Twoface continues to bleed as scum, He hopping into every possible wagon he can safely land on without giving any leads. Its possible that one of both or both HS & Twoface could be scum. I have a history of identifying scum with a hunch.Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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Yes I have a question for you love.In post 1382, Nero Cain wrote:
I seem pretty active don'tcha think? Do you have any specific questions for me?In post 1379, TwoFace wrote:what about Nero's lack of attempt at catching up?
Why do you think I am scum. Apart from your endless desire to lynch me on the every single game we play together.Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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And for the record, You're not active. You're just trolling as you always use to do.In post 1382, Nero Cain wrote:
I seem pretty active don'tcha think? Do you have any specific questions for me?In post 1379, TwoFace wrote:what about Nero's lack of attempt at catching up?Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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Silly question to question someone who is mafia. Isn't it?In post 1387, Nero Cain wrote:Who do you want to lynch Angel, twoface?Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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then whats the good wagon you think, apart from mineIn post 1380, TwoFace wrote:
this is a horrible wagon just because of the player list on it.In post 1251, keyenpeydee wrote:VOTE COUNT 1.31
[L-1] Road Kamelot - ChaosOmega, Mortfeld, Naomi-Tan, Human Sequencer, Drone, Lil Uzi VertInatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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Being active means receiving public prods from MOD? Please don't defend yourself on this Nero. You make people laugh here.In post 1391, Nero Cain wrote:
First of all, I don't think I try to lynch you every game we've been in but my big hang up is that TBs Copper vote was funky. I mean obviously he's new and is claiming to not know how to play and sure I've seen new town say silly things so how should I go about determining if he's new that said something silly or scum that gave a bad paniky answer?In post 1386, ArcAngel9 wrote:Why do you think I am scum. Apart from your endless desire to lynch me on the every single game we play together.
I'M MORE ACTIVE THAN YOU!!
And In hindsight, You do try to lynch me every game we play regardless of my alignment. How about you check our history on that. Believe me or not, you will be surprised to see how accurate I am.
TB had no content in the game in whatsoever manner and you said it yourself that he is a new player so what made you think I am scum now?
How about you read my post where i voted HS?In post 1392, TwoFace wrote:
I don't recall you making a case. Not sure how you can claim it's legitimate if it doesn't exsistIn post 1384, ArcAngel9 wrote:My case is legitimate.
Didn't you see his declaration over supporting my wagon without a lead?In post 1393, Nero Cain wrote:
You do know that I was asking who you want to lynch....right?In post 1389, ArcAngel9 wrote:
Silly question to question someone who is mafia. Isn't it?In post 1387, Nero Cain wrote:Who do you want to lynch Angel, twoface?
In post 1394, TwoFace wrote:
That couldn't be farther from the truth. I've stated my 4 scum reads previously and I've pretty much stayed on my top read until I switched to my 2nd top read. There's no wagon hopping at allIn post 1385, ArcAngel9 wrote:and on the other had Twoface continues to bleed as scum, He hopping into every possible wagon he can safely land on without giving any leads.
You realize that i replaced into the game after it got into 40 pages plus. How about your step into my timezone and see how it works for you including a 10 hours shift job every day and a travel over the weekend?In post 1395, TwoFace wrote:
Well you really aren't in a position to say who isand isn't active when you're slot is kind of lacking in that departmentIn post 1388, ArcAngel9 wrote:And for the record, You're not active. You're just trolling as you always use to do.
Again, what is your lead to support my wagon? I would love to hear your case. Now you're starting to react because I am calling you scum. why so defensive?In post 1397, TwoFace wrote:
I've only voted twice all game excluding my rvs so please I'd love to see how you explain this obvious lieIn post 1394, TwoFace wrote:
That couldn't be farther from the truth. I've stated my 4 scum reads previously and I've pretty much stayed on my top read until I switched to my 2nd top read. There's no wagon hopping at allIn post 1385, ArcAngel9 wrote:and on the other had Twoface continues to bleed as scum, He hopping into every possible wagon he can safely land on without giving any leads.Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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so you can't point finger at me. We all have reason right? Now stop and relax and see my point if you can and if you're town.In post 1400, Nero Cain wrote:
I WAS SICK!In post 1398, ArcAngel9 wrote:Being active means receiving public prods from MOD?
See, this is what I am talking about. You're not helping. And you're supporting my scum read on you.In post 1401, TwoFace wrote:In post 1398, ArcAngel9 wrote:You realize that i replaced into the game after it got into 40 pages plus. How about your step into my timezone and see how it works for you including a 10 hours shift job every day and a travel over the weekend?
I dont see a town motive behind this post. Town justifies and mafia troll like this. Now you should be worried that your team is going to dislike you.Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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In post 1402, TwoFace wrote:
You're slot did shitIn post 1398, ArcAngel9 wrote:Again, what is your lead to support my wagon? I would love to hear your case. Now you're starting to react because I am calling you scum. why so defensive?
You've done shit
I don't care who calls me scum, certainly not a lurk fuck like you
I defend myself when people lie about me. I do this as either alignment. Wish more players would do that. I also wish people stop throwing around the defensive accusation like it actually means something. It's been disproven a bazillion times.
How about we try this in a nicer way, I would like a reasonable explanation for your scum read on me instead of throwing abuses around to overpower this conversation?Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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then why do you think I am scum. TB bad respond is not enough to indicate that he is scum. And I replaced into this slot and I am trying to do better than him if not the best. Isn't that enough to see it different?In post 1404, Nero Cain wrote:you do know that I'm not blaming you or anything for being inactive or anything. Like I know your deal.Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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I am not up for PL but i don't like people use their BIG mouth to overpower in game. It's indicates lack of maturity and inability to give up their ego. He can continue to rant, I prefer mod to take care of such incidents.In post 1407, MortFeld wrote:Interjecting to say that posts like that are just TF. Thought he was toning it down after he almost got PLd but I guess not.
Now you're trying to twist my case. I didn't scum read you because you were trolling with pictures. I scum read for your lack of reason to call me scum.In post 1408, TwoFace wrote:I don't care if you scum read me. If you think me posting images makes me scummy I can just ignore you cause that's stupid.
There's no motivation for posting that pic, but there isn't any scum motivation either. There is humor motivation. That image made me laugh and fit perfectly
There's no town motivation for you making excuses for your activity. I'm personally annoyed at Nero also but at least he had a good excuse. You're excuse is shit.
Your motive of human doesn't help the game. Humor suppose to help others laugh not by yourself, it's not humor, its your attempt to shadow your emotion of failure.
You can lynch me but do come up with the valid points. So who else you think are scum? Don't point to someone like creeps, I am sure mafia is just more than one player in the game.In post 1409, Nero Cain wrote:The day is young Angel. I may or may not want to lynch you so we'll see where things go and what happens.Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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Do i lurky now? I lurk when i am busy. You should know my style by now.In post 1410, Nero Cain wrote:Angel has and always will be "lurky". Ita NAI.
Not everyone who gets replaced after being pressurized is scum. Your read is not relevant.In post 1411, TwoFace wrote:
I was sort of town reading your slot earlier on. He stopped contributing and replaced out when he was under pressure. It sort of looked weird to me. You replaced in and have done nothing useful so far. I know you are a more capable player so I wouldn't object to you're lynch.In post 1405, ArcAngel9 wrote:How about we try this in a nicer way, I would like a reasonable explanation for your scum read on me instead of throwing abuses around to overpower this conversation?
Funny you accuse me of being defensive but I haven't even voted you and you're getting defensive. You aren't my preferred lynch but I'm ok with you're lynch cause your slot hasn't been productive and doesn't look town.
If you're town, you've got time to try and change my opinion.
New players usually can't handle pressure well and they end up leaving the slot at a bad phase. It's the same old story of almost every flaked player slots. So you're point is that I am the only player who was not useful in the game? How about You wait until i change that? Yes, I am very capable of hunting scum on my own, you can refer my previous game on wiki page to understand my style of playing. I dont ever give up to scum when I am town and today is certainly not that day.
I accuse you because you didn't have a reason to support my wagon. Ask yourself this, You think i am scum because i was unproductive and what if i become productive, will it change my alignment? Is that a good logic? You scum hunt by analyzing players motive and understand how perceptions are being developed through wrong reasons. Someone being unproductive doesn't make them scum.Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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You tell me. Do we support a wagon if we think they are town?In post 1414, TwoFace wrote:Arc. Saying I'm ok with your lynch =/= calling you scum.
You must understand that mafiascum.net has players across Globe, we all grew up under various cultural heritages and our approaches are different.In post 1415, TwoFace wrote:List mod was right. You guys are too sensitive. You would hate playing on the sites I played. Snark is fun in the right environment. This game obviously isn't
So we must try to stay on site meta, the culture that's fits to the community. You can't expect people to accept you because you come from a different background. How about your read a bit about Adaptability? It will help you understand better.Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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It's not advice. I am politely requesting you to be nice.In post 1418, TwoFace wrote:Thanks for the advice on how to play that I didn't ask for. At this point if my preferred wagons fall through I'm still ok with your lynch
It's hard to change someone's mind after their ego being played. Good luck with that.
How about your focus on scum hunting than clinging on to your neverending support to my wagon?Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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And you think people who are not productive are scum? and the others are town?In post 1419, TwoFace wrote:
Idk what you do. I don't support wagons I think are town.In post 1417, ArcAngel9 wrote:You tell me. Do we support a wagon if we think they are town?Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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Did you try ISO me? I have been pointing my finger at him since my initial catch up post. Although my initial reads were not strong but the way he has created options to hop into my wagon seems suspicious. I could be wrong but the way he wanted to dominate the argument verbally seems unfair but am glad it has happened because i do see his aggression genuine but at this moment, I am two minds about his slot.In post 1422, Toto wrote:I like Arc more than I liked TB to be honest. But maybe that's just because they don't like HS.
Arc, can you summarize your case for TwoFace? Why are you scum reading him? do you have any townreads?
Wrong. I want conversation that doesn't include abuses and insults. Let's have a scum hunting conversation instead. I am up for it.In post 1424, TwoFace wrote:
I'm not clinging to anything. We were having a conversation. I'll gladly end it if you don't want to conversation anymore. Conversations are useful.In post 1420, ArcAngel9 wrote:How about your focus on scum hunting than clinging on to your neverending support to my wagon?
Bye Felicia.
I never you said you're voting, i was referring to your options to hop on to various wagons seems scummy.In post 1425, TwoFace wrote:
My read on you is null. You aren't helping me read you better because of you're lack of content. If a null read gets lynched, I'm ok with that though it's not my preferred. But I'm voting my preferred.In post 1421, ArcAngel9 wrote:And you think people who are not productive are scum? and the others are town?
Can we go back to how I was supposedly hopping on wagons when I've only voted 2 people. That's a blatant misrep.
I am well aware that i missed a part of game that i am yet to cover. And I dont want people to misinterpret that i am lurking so i decided to roll myself in the current game and go back if necessary or when i get enough time to review the game. So who else you're willing to compesate to lynch apart from me?In post 1427, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I don't like the Arc wagon. No one has provided a case for her other than she's not doing anything but she stated she's on page 20 and is still struggling to catch-up. With that being said, I haven't seen anything that has made me say "she's town, don't lynch her" but I do like her little spat with Nero and her description of how he is seems accurate so far. Hate her thoughts on TF's but I don't think she intentionally lied about how she believes he's bleeding scum, seems more like frustration and a misunderstanding. I'd wish she'd just shut up and finish catching up though as it's confusing as to why she's defending herself from people voting for her mainly from her predecessors play.
I want to see her thoughts on everyone not HS, Nero, RK, and TF before going forward with her and some attempts to actual scum hunt. If I don't see either of the two by tomorrow evening, I'm willing to compensate.
I buy your case but do you know that TB is a newbie and a very bad player. How you dont want to give a benefit of doubt on that seems you dont want to purse scum hunting on my case instead you made up your mind on the slot which makes me feel that you probably scumIn post 1440, Human Sequencer wrote:
In newbie 1744 we used this to literally lynch scum. We got two scum back to back after losing both PRs day 1.In post 1426, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
This reads so opportunistic and I'm struggling to see your side here because you're still using your thoughts on TB in order to try lynch Arc, which makes no sense and doesn't feel like town play to me.In post 1314, Human Sequencer wrote:Finally a wagon I can completely get behind.
VOTE: ArcAngel
@Nero, votes outside of votetags aren't counted by this mod.
I understand why you carry the perspective you do, but you should try to understand mine too. I think there's a lot of value in evaluating the actions of that slot's predecessor.
There's also no way this was 'opportunistic' because I've stated about twenty gorrilion times I want to lynch TB's slot.
I literally can't say anything in this game. I've got like eight crosshairs reading everything I say as if I'm confScum.In post 1426, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
This post reads off to me. Mainly the last part, it's like you know Mort is on the wrong path or is going to be killed during the night.In post 1374, Human Sequencer wrote:Mort, I believe in you and your ability to find the scum after I flip or after Road flips or etc, but I don't believe in your ability to convince the rest of town or survive through the nightkills even if you get on the right tack.
If I'm lynched today -please- remember those read posts I made earlier.
why do you read TF as scum now? Can you summarize it in a better format?In post 1446, Human Sequencer wrote:I will admit my TF green lens is weakening, but I need more time to formulate that.
Especially if arc is green.
If arc is green I'll be confused but I'll probably be on Twoface's tail.
No offense taken, I am a practical person and understand other views. I voted you because scum always find easy way to hop on, i dont know if this is your general play style or immpractical method to scum hunt but i see it very scummy. I hope you get my point of view on you.In post 1451, Human Sequencer wrote:I still stand by what I said about TB. I think it's very relevant to interpreting her slot.
Arc is really abrasive and forward. I'm still sorting out how I interpret her, but I feel like her suddenly trying to flip a wagon against me, an easy target, isn't a good sign. Her claiming I had no lead or reasoning isn't legitimate, because I've put forward my thoughts on TB many times.
>inb4 people complain because I'm sring arc based on TB again
That's how I interpret the slot. I understand you interpret it differently.
Arc is a lot greener than TB though. The read is weakening. Which is bad because now I don't have any scum slots I'd really be willing to lynch, and I'm worried it might stay like that before day ends.
I'm gonna iso Drone and Wobbs soon to get a better perspective on them.
PS Arc, I don't mean to offend you in any way, I'm just playing the game.
PSS Twoface, nice reddit-tier meme! You really outmemed her! You must be a meme master!
Who has softclaimed, I am bit confused. TF claimed a PR? Why?In post 1460, Drone wrote:Soft claiming a pr should at LEAST get votes off, questioning is the answer to deal with that.
The boy is scum guys.
And for Uzi:
I don't know if TF is scum, I'm not reading him well due to his nature. Either way, a TF lynch is best lynch.
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Replacing out doesn't help town. if you're town don't make hasty decisions.In post 1477, Drone wrote:Would it help you understand that I don't even read your posts? I'm just taking a taste of the, seeing they're worthless and continue.
Honestly? You got to the level I no longer fucking care if you're a pr.
A pr in your hands is like having an extra scum.
You're bad, you've got attitude problems, you can't work posts into something understandable, or control your goddamn choice of words.
We're lynching him today, or I replace out.
Drone also defending me, I am bit confused here. you think HS is scum is because he is buddying up with Drone or Drone scum because he is defending people out of his way. He was defending me too. I see your point that scum would love to defend town to gain brownie points but you need to be lot clearer than this.In post 1476, TwoFace wrote:why do you think you defending drone has anything to do with anything?
scum motivation for defending drone if he is town - buddying/white knighing
scum motivation for defending drone if he is scum - want to protect your scum buddy.
like why do you ask a silly question? (I self edited myself here, ya'll would be really proud of me)
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I am not worried about your fashionable abuses. I am still concerned about your style of scum hunting.In post 1484, TwoFace wrote:
and I want a conversation that doesn't include lies/misreps yet that's what you did.In post 1481, ArcAngel9 wrote:Wrong. I want conversation that doesn't include abuses and insults
sorry if I used too colorful language with you, I keep forgetting I am not in kansas anymore.
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You're being stubborn. That's all i can say.In post 1486, TwoFace wrote:
yeah that still isn't true.In post 1481, ArcAngel9 wrote:I never you said you're voting, i was referring to your options to hop on to various wagons seems scummy.Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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Can you help me see your real case on HS. I would love to refer that. Sorry if i am sounding like a lazy person but i am doing this for different reasons.In post 1489, TwoFace wrote:
As I said in the post you just quoted, I don't think HS defending drone has anything to do with my already existing scum read on him.In post 1485, ArcAngel9 wrote:Drone also defending me, I am bit confused here. you think HS is scum is because he is buddying up with Drone or Drone scum because he is defending people out of his way. He was defending me too. I see your point that scum would love to defend town to gain brownie points but you need to be lot clearer than this.Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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I think you kind of mixed up here a bit. But i can read your points.In post 1491, Human Sequencer wrote:'I buy your case but do you know that TB is a newbie and a very bad player. How you dont want to give a benefit of doubt on that seems you dont want to purse scum hunting on my case instead you made up your mind on the slot which makes me feel that you probably scum'
Well, I hadn't already made up my mind on the slot, because as I said recently, I'm starting to view you as less scummy the more you post.
Beyond that, I really do think that TB's actions were more likely to come from new scum instead of new town. I've said this about 4^99 times now.
'I voted you because scum always find easy way to hop on, i dont know if this is your general play style or immpractical method to scum hunt but i see it very scummy. I hope you get my point of view on you.'
This wasn't just an 'easy way to hop on' though. I was ready for this wagon for a very long time. I've stated my detailed case on TB twice now, once from before I voted.
'why do you read TF as scum now? Can you summarize it in a better format?'
I don't read TF as scum now, my interpretation has gone from 'obvTown' to 'maybeTown'.
TF has pretty much claimed vig at this point and claims he'll shoot Wobbs or maybe me tonight because he's immaturely pissed off and bitter about an argument he had with copper, the person who was in that slot previously.
It's worth noting that if we get one one kill tonight, TF is then very very suspicious, and only a few fringe doctor cases or other niche stuff like that could save him from definitely being scum.
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Ummm... I am confused on his reads right now but i still dont buy his logic on calling Drone scum only if HS is scum, the argument doesn't stand well.
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since you asked. Here you go.In post 1490, TwoFace wrote:
yes I can be stubborn but that doesn't change what you said.In post 1488, ArcAngel9 wrote:
You're being stubborn. That's all i can say.In post 1486, TwoFace wrote:
yeah that still isn't true.In post 1481, ArcAngel9 wrote:I never you said you're voting, i was referring to your options to hop on to various wagons seems scummy.
can you please point out which various wagons you are referring to? Help me understand your pov cause from my perspective it looks like a lie
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Why did you claim VIG? Explain that to me please.In post 1500, TwoFace wrote:This is what I posted way back. Granted it isn't the best case but my read on him was more based off gut. My points about copper were much better and everyone ignored them which is why I don't like doing cases. Nobody reads them and those who do just write them off or ignore them.
The fact that I had to be forced to make a case, something I am fundamentally against doing has kind of turned me off of the game. The fact that people tried to force replace me for some unknown reason and needed list mod intervention has also turned me off on the game.In post 690, TwoFace wrote:and since I am doing it, My scum read on HS is kind of harder to explain. What pinged me first was the weird drone comment. Drone hadn't even posted and he was asking drone if he agreed with him or something like that. Later HS claims he saw the mod post that drone had confirmed but somehow missed that he was on V/LA which I think is unlikely especially when HS said he wasn't skimming. Even if he were skimming, I doubt he would miss that but when HS said he wasn't skimming I just don't see how he misses it. The fact that he avoided my question about copper lying about TB and now actually sides with Copper about TB when the facts prove them both wrong, just points to scum to me.
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I am now seeing better of you but your case on HS is wrong. Let me know help you understand my point of view on this.In post 1505, TwoFace wrote:
I actually never claimed vig. I did ask to be left alive until day 2 and HS took that as a vig claim and even asked me if i was a vig to which I called him out for role fising. If he was town, there was no need to out my soft claim.In post 1496, ArcAngel9 wrote:I am not liking the TF vig claim. Is this real? TF - Why did you claim on day 1. Any specific reason?
do you want to know what he did after that? he voted me. yet another reason why I think he is scum. I soft claimed vig and he proceeded to put me to L-2
i don't see town motivation in those actions. he also joined my PL wagon despite town reading me. yet another reason i can't see how he is town.
right or wrong here, HS play resembles scum much more than it resembles town from my pov. ya'll can disagree with me if you want but don't think anyone can change my mind.
Soft claim is also anti-town, It's not like you're on L-1 to ask people to leave you alone until day 2, I would understand if you had soft claimed at the verge of getting lynched but your wagon was never at edge, so why are you being impulsive about it?
I see HS reaction is legitimate for your claim. I would have reacted in the same way or the other. If you're not VIG then why were you indicating that you would shoot HS on night 1
Scum wouldn't let you get lynched on day 1 because they knew that you would likely hit town than scum given the ratio.
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So why not push Road lynch if you have a decent read? and Whats your scum read on me and Drone? please be more specific about your other lynch optionsIn post 1504, ChaosOmega wrote:Maybe I'm just tunnel-visioned at this point, but why aren't we lynching Road?
Bring up their ISO and read through it. I see pushes on 3 players: Toto, Mort, and Drone.
I guess you think Toto is scummy, but the only thing there is a naked vote you put on the slot, and then you moved it away without ever once explaining any of your read on Toto. Can you go more into that read you had at the time, and if there's been any change since your unvote?
Their other push earlier was on Mort, and it reads very ticky-tack. 1133 is the start of it, and it's super vague. "due to your way of things"...what the fuck does that mean? Their example seems to be scumreading Mort because he scumread her and views her actions in a negative light? So, a veiled OMGUS?
The case where she votes Mort isn't better. Mort sums it up pretty well in 1154. No more posts from Road until 1266, where it's full of AtE and backing away from their only real push this game without establishing any new reads or questioning other players to get new reads.
In 1276, she pivots over to Drone. I'm ok with this push. Drone's jump onto the Road wagon looked pretty lousy.
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Road
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Let me put this in another way, if Drone flips scum, I don't think HS is scum. Isn't that a possibility?In post 1507, TwoFace wrote:
that's not why I am pushing Drone. But if HS flips scum, you have to admit that makes that earlier interaction weird and more likely to mean they are partnered.In post 1498, ArcAngel9 wrote:but i still dont buy his logic on calling Drone scum only if HS is scum, the argument doesn't stand well.Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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How you see things could be different to others. you have to give benefit of doubt on that. Don't be stubborn about this.In post 1513, TwoFace wrote:
1. my case isn't wrongIn post 1510, ArcAngel9 wrote:I am now seeing better of you but your case on HS is wrong. Let me know help you understand my point of view on this.
Soft claim is also anti-town, It's not like you're on L-1 to ask people to leave you alone until day 2, I would understand if you had soft claimed at the verge of getting lynched but your wagon was never at edge, so why are you being impulsive about it?
I see HS reaction is legitimate for your claim. I would have reacted in the same way or the other. If you're not VIG then why were you indicating that you would shoot HS on night 1
Scum wouldn't let you get lynched on day 1 because they knew that you would likely hit town than scum given the ratio.
Now I see you and HS fights may be town vs town. And both of you letting the scum team get a free pass on the day 1
2. soft claim isn't anti-town when there is momentum towards you getting lynched and there was plenty of momentum since I got to L-2. You don't claim vig at L-1 cause scum will quick hammer that shit, shit so will dumb ass townies who don't believe you. Vig is a dumb fake claim anyway
3. HS's reaction was terrible if he is town, which is why i don't think he is town.
Soft claim on Day 1 is anti-town, I am saying this out of my experience. Vig is not dumb fake claim, Scum would never quick hammer ever not definitely on day. And people day quick lynch or PL those who soft claim on day 1. you can't expect to people to think in your way.
HS may be probably town. We have more 4 more days. I urge you to focus on your other reads, If HS is scum, he won't escape the obvious fate. We are not letting the mafia win this game. So focus on the other reads
I want to hear thoughts on Road, todd, Shadow & Chaos. Ever since I am active i didn't hear much from them.
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If HS flips town, what do you think about the game ?In post 1514, TwoFace wrote:
probably not but drone doesn't seem to be getting lynched today. HS is more likely to be lynched, so I don't really see the point in asking thisIn post 1512, ArcAngel9 wrote:Let me put this in another way, if Drone flips scum, I don't think HS is scum. Isn't that a possibility?
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HS, Will you try shift your focus on other players apart form TF? If not TF who is that you would like to lynch today. I am presuming that I am not in your scum radar at this moment. What about others? and Is your read on Drone is strong town read or you like him because he constantly defends people for good reasons?In post 1515, Human Sequencer wrote:If you're claiming to get the heat off you, you claim 'I'm vig, stop voting me'.Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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In post 1518, TwoFace wrote:a PR only claims when they absolutely have to aka when they are at L-1 and somebody is declaring to hammer. Some people will claim as soon as they get to L-1
no smart player comes out and full claims their role when they are at L-3.
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I read creeps slot town for his inability to convince town during early game, and i see shadow is just following his foot steps.In post 1522, TwoFace wrote:I think road is probably town by the number of bad people on his wagon
Chaos is the one player I have toyed with shooting if I were going to shoot based off policy. He has been useless all game. Him complaining about a comment i made to another player was very petty and his hop on me not town motivated in anyway.
IDK who Todd is
Shadow - he seems more interested in distracting town with theory discussions aka hypocopping instead of actually scum hunting.
I am waiting for Chaos to come with reasons for lynch pool. He only showcased his reasons against Road and happily gave a whole list of lynch pool without reason. I recommend that we should shift our focus on him. I am bit surprised on his playstyle, he is a very experienced player and usually play better than this.
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Now you being silly. Jokes apart, you really can't shoot yourself. You also scum read Wobbuffet, why not push his wagon and shoot someone else during nightIn post 1524, TwoFace wrote:
if HS flips town, I think I may vig shoot myselfIn post 1519, ArcAngel9 wrote:If HS flips town, what do you think about the game ?
And if your claim is your true, who do you want to shoot tonight?
no seriously I will hate this game even more and I already hate it a lot
who I want to shoot tonight is wobbuffet.
who i actually will shoot is completely different, if I even shoot at all.
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I am against both of you trying to rip each other apart in the game. I am having a strong hunch that both of you could be town, I see your motives are strong none of you being manipulative. This is what rage townies do it each other, so be smarter and better and shift your focus to someone else for a change and see if it changes the way game is moving on.In post 1527, TwoFace wrote:
I never claimed vig. You did that for me.In post 1520, Human Sequencer wrote:That's exactly what you fucking did. How else are you supposed to interpret that post.
All I did was ask to be left alive until day 2 which is why any town PR would want when they are getting run up.Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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Where do Chaos fit in your reads? I am having my doubts on him.In post 1529, Human Sequencer wrote:
Like I said a little earlier, I'm not really confident in any scumreads anymore. I have a lot of townreads though.In post 1521, ArcAngel9 wrote:
HS, Will you try shift your focus on other players apart form TF? If not TF who is that you would like to lynch today. I am presuming that I am not in your scum radar at this moment. What about others? and Is your read on Drone is strong town read or you like him because he constantly defends people for good reasons?In post 1515, Human Sequencer wrote:If you're claiming to get the heat off you, you claim 'I'm vig, stop voting me'.
Mort is a strong townread.
Uzi is a strong townread.
Twoface is a townread.
Naomi is a townread.
Shadow is a townread.
I made that comment about Drone because regardless of if he's scum or town, he's actually thinking the game through and trying to participate. I'm not sure about his alignment. Null. I've got a lot of nulls that I could easily be convinced over to lynching.
The fact that everybody who has been posting more comes out as more and more town makes me suspicious that your assumption was correct in us giving scum an easy D1, and that they're probably just hiding back somewhere.Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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Scum usually don't push Policy Lynch button except when they know how to play their cards very well. Look, I see your point and i have been myself a victim of being policy lynch for a very long time. Any old players in the site would empathize me on this.In post 1533, TwoFace wrote:
how so you defend yourself from "Let's policy lynch twoface"?In post 1523, ArcAngel9 wrote:Are you indicating that you're not a smart player, Why asking people to spare you on day 1? You could have choose to come with a stronger defense other than a soft claim. Isn't it?
613Policy lynch
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624I don't like wagoning green players but... aka Policy lynch
ME: Hey guys, leave me alive until day 2
HS - OH SHIT HE's claiming vig. TF are you claiming vig?
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Policy lynch is usually recommend by a lot of town players to remove the players that don't help the game or on the players who they know would troll the game which is why ms.net has WOTC to avoid such players in games. And some wannabe pro-town players play around with policy lynch to get the game move forward from day 1 because everybody hates day 1. Day 1 is bad and they usually go long and they test patience when they go for weeks like this one.Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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I am repeating this again, His reaction is not bad. I see his point and its time you accept that and help him to understand your frustration too.In post 1538, TwoFace wrote:
I forgot all about that postIn post 1531, Human Sequencer wrote:In post 647, TwoFace wrote:yeah scum want me gone today so good idea to lynch me before I can take one of them out
ok so I soft claimed vig, there was still no motivation for you as town to draw attention to it like you did
Try harder is what i could recommend. I am here to listen, if you have legitimate case and convince others, I am sure you can drag it to right directionIn post 1537, TwoFace wrote:
I have already tried a bunch of times to get people to vote him. I even pointed the lies he made since replacing in.In post 1528, ArcAngel9 wrote:why not push his wagon
no traction what so ever, like car with 4 bald tires trying to drive up a mountain during an ice storm
how about we try motivate him to give some reads.In post 1536, Human Sequencer wrote:No content=no read.
I think his post on Kamelot is reasonable, even if I don't agree with it.
I would like to hear more of his opinions on everybody.
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No you don't and we don't either. Day 1 ends in 4 days.In post 1541, Human Sequencer wrote:I have infinite time.Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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Okay. I am liking this. Need more motivation here.Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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Because he is also as stubborn as you. Give him room to breathe. He might help the game.In post 1545, TwoFace wrote:
1525 says otherwiseIn post 1541, Human Sequencer wrote:I have infinite time.
4 days left and you are the leading vote getter. If you were town you should be more concerned with trying to find and lynch scum.
why are people town reading this guy? seriouslyInatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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Point taken, We can park him into the lynch pool and I am with you on this. Lets wait what he has to say about this.In post 1550, TwoFace wrote:
I have posted a link to my case on copper already. The case that I quoted on HS was from that post actually and HS has linked to that case on copper.In post 1542, ArcAngel9 wrote:Try harder is what i could recommend. I am here to listen, if you have legitimate case and convince others, I am sure you can drag it to right direction
since then wobbuffet replaced in and essentially chose to not read the game. He asked me for my reasons on his slot and I told him he should read the game and he would find them.
he twisted that into me somehow refusing to explain my scum read (which can't possibly be true if I had already done it)
he claimed my reasons were vague - (which can't possibly be true if multiple conversations and arguments took place about those reasons)
He then claimed that I was trying to lynch mort (which absolutely isn't true because I never voted him once, and never even said I would consider voting him)
he has also done absolutely nothing useful. I do not see him attempting to scum hunt.
your thoughts on Chaos? I want answers from this man.Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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Point taken, We can park him into the lynch pool and I am with you on this. Lets wait what he has to say about this.In post 1550, TwoFace wrote:
I have posted a link to my case on copper already. The case that I quoted on HS was from that post actually and HS has linked to that case on copper.In post 1542, ArcAngel9 wrote:Try harder is what i could recommend. I am here to listen, if you have legitimate case and convince others, I am sure you can drag it to right direction
since then wobbuffet replaced in and essentially chose to not read the game. He asked me for my reasons on his slot and I told him he should read the game and he would find them.
he twisted that into me somehow refusing to explain my scum read (which can't possibly be true if I had already done it)
he claimed my reasons were vague - (which can't possibly be true if multiple conversations and arguments took place about those reasons)
He then claimed that I was trying to lynch mort (which absolutely isn't true because I never voted him once, and never even said I would consider voting him)
he has also done absolutely nothing useful. I do not see him attempting to scum hunt.
your thoughts on Chaos? I want answers from this man.Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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Sorry for the double most. Please remove it if you can.Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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You don't find his play suspicious than cooper slot?In post 1554, TwoFace wrote:chaos is nothing. I can't remember anything of value from him.
his petty complaint to the mod and his policy lynch vote on me is the only thing I remember from himInatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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HS wagon has to DIE!!!!
Can we get this game moving pleaseInatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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Not reading the game isn't a scum tell. He could be a lousy town player. When you don't have much choice you need to swing on to other possiblites. And on the other hand, Chaos has not done anything better than cooper and he more experienced than anyone here and I expect him either have good reasons to lurk or intentionally avoiding the game because he is scum. I understand you have good reasons on Cooper slot but think about his play style, he is as noob as any other new player.In post 1557, TwoFace wrote:
His play is suspicious for sure. I hate lurkers. But there's not much to point to. I felt I had actual reasons for copperIn post 1555, ArcAngel9 wrote:
You don't find his play suspicious than cooper slot?In post 1554, TwoFace wrote:chaos is nothing. I can't remember anything of value from him.
his petty complaint to the mod and his policy lynch vote on me is the only thing I remember from himInatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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i am not absent, I live in a different country and a complete different timezone and i have a day job. I usually catch up after my dinner.In post 1649, MortFeld wrote:If HS is town, then Drone and Road are likely town.
Does the reading of Arc+HS+TF only make sense if Arc is protecting HS? Like, I think scum!Arc could still have been trying to work on two townies.
I don't see why Chaos looks so bad from 1582. Like, you did react pretty much the way he described and it looks bad. Obviously if you're lynched and flip town that's a place we can look.
I don't really feel like seeing HS hammered here when Arc and Nero are still absent.
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Didn't you read my previous post. I am busy. I wasn't around when HS was at L1 and even he is at L1 now, I wont hammer it because I no longer feel he is scum. Follow my conversations with HS & TF. I see things differently after long talk with them.In post 1653, MortFeld wrote:Can someone explain why I'm at a loss if HS is town? My scum pool is like 7 people. Is this just because of the replacements or is there another reason this game feels so bad?
Pedit: you literally were absent, at the time HS was at L-1 you hadn't posted in a while/responded to Toto's condensed question. The word absent does not have negative connotations, unlike the word lurking which I didn't use.Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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And that frustration self vote seems like, he is more town.
We aren't lynching HS today.Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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Please feel free to read my conversations with HS & TF once again. See my how read has changed over the time.In post 1659, MortFeld wrote:
How exactly did this happen? What changed from the time you SRd both of them to the time you TRd both of them?In post 1655, ArcAngel9 wrote:Follow my conversations with HS & TF. I see things differently after long talk with them.
Yes, I agree that i scum read the HS slot with the way he read me as scum for TB's poor play, i found him to be opportunist to get m lynched which looked scum play to me but as i begin to interact with HS and TF, I have found and understand their playstyle a bit that he was going by his reads not relatively thinking that i am different player than TB. His conversations and fight between TF seem town to be because the arguments that were flowing between the two is something i can only see two townies behave. Scum usually would avoid being in limelight and wouldn't want further attention on them and the say HS was voted on him and open to see him lynched seems like a frustrated townie. I saw very similar arguments from TF as well. I concluded and changed my opinion towards both of them and also noticed that there are others players like Chaos who is only being opportunist in the game, came up with a lynch but only gave leads on Road but reject to explain in his reads on his remaining lynch pools looks like a setup and open options to hop his vote on day 1
Hence, I was trying to help HS and TF to see each other in a different perspective as TF was stuck in believing that HS reaction over his soft claim is not legitimate. HS reaction over TF claim is reasonable, i would have reacted in the same way or the other.
I didn't change my read on these two just like that. It slowly progressed from scum read to possibly town read after talking to them for quite some time.
We as townies always open to change our opinion based on player reactions and with the way they handle the pressure and this game i found both HS and TF doesn't seem scum to be at this point of time.Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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Lynch him would be extreme but what i now say doesn't stand up to how i would have felt to the situation but i would have definitely asked for reason behind his action (which he is already explained) and I could empathise with him.In post 1710, MortFeld wrote:
You would have voted to lynch TF after he soft claimed?In post 1708, ArcAngel9 wrote: Hence, I was trying to help HS and TF to see each other in a different perspective as TF was stuck in believing that HS reaction over his soft claim is not legitimate. HS reaction over TF claim is reasonable, i would have reacted in the same way or the other.
I said this before, how you kept your options to hop into my wagon seems suspicious to me and my initial thoughts on you about how you voted cooper because of his poor play made me thought that were keeping options to hop into easy wagon just like Chaos is doing it. It was an honest opinion at that time. If you want to black mark me on that, I can't change it, that's how i play my games.I am always suspicious over people who find little reasons to jump into easy wagons.In post 1711, TwoFace wrote:looking back, arc changed her read on me after I explained myself about claiming vig, which means she probably thinks my claim is legit and went into self preservation mode so i don't shoot her.
the fact that she falsely accused me of wanting to hop on wagons and couldn't back that up with evidence is a huge red flag against her.Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!