VOTE: Maria
It's so hard to vote from phone
Which post were you referring to? I don't think anyone has made an AI post yet. Mykonian was most likely trying to identify that there are a lot of newer players and not-so-subtly call out that guy who is probably an alt that won't name his main. I think Gamma was just chipping in to keep discussion going, but it does look weird to regurgitate a list like that after what looked like a thoughtful post from mykoIn post 20, MariaR wrote:when in fact you prob made the most scummy post.
If someone is town and they get called scummy for a NAI post I feel like it's in bad form to just jump on a wagon forming against the player that called you out. It looks defensive to me. It's natural to be defensive though so maybe he's just behaving normally.In post 43, Road Kamelot wrote:Lol are u bein srs because jumping on a small wagon on someone who called an innocent post of yours scummy is exactly what town should do on page fuckin 2
In post 69, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:If someone is town and they get called scummy for a NAI post I feel like it's in bad form to just jump on a wagon forming against the player that called you out. It looks defensive to me. It's natural to be defensive though so maybe he's just behaving normally.In post 43, Road Kamelot wrote:Lol are u bein srs because jumping on a small wagon on someone who called an innocent post of yours scummy is exactly what town should do on page fuckin 2
That being said, it's my understanding that wagons need to form to get people talking and it can only be a good thing that they're getting going. Everyone seems null still
I never implied Gamma was town in that post. I specified thatIn post 76, MTD wrote:Ok my biggest problem with that post is that heimpliesgamma to be town.
And then says everyone is null.
As I explained above, players need to join wagons to get discussion going. The discussion we are having now is helpful to the town. Players can see how we interact with one another, and see how other players choose to interpret the words they read. I believe scumslips are when scum interpret things differently than town do, and these discussions lead to town being able to form reads on other players based on how they think.In post 77, Road Kamelot wrote:But its cool to join a wagon on a player because of an NAI postIn post 69, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:If someone is town and they get called scummy for a NAI post I feel like it's in bad form to just jump on a wagon forming against the player that called you out. It looks defensive to me. It's natural to be defensive though so maybe he's just behaving normally.In post 43, Road Kamelot wrote:Lol are u bein srs because jumping on a small wagon on someone who called an innocent post of yours scummy is exactly what town should do on page fuckin 2
That being said, it's my understanding that wagons need to form to get people talking and it can only be a good thing that they're getting going. Everyone seems null still
You joined the Gamma wagon but didnt agree with the case??? lol
VOTE: ssbm_Kyouko
EBWOP: misrepped* (misrepresented) First MTD, then RK misrepresented my posts. MTD realized that he made a mistake interpreting my post but even after the mistake was pointed out, RK pushed at it instead of accepting that she may have made a mistake.In post 78, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:I joined the gamma wagon because a wagon has to form to move the game somewhere. I'm being misstepped right now. Will explain once I'm off phone in a few minutes
I never said that it was scummy for Gamma to join the myko wagon, but I think someone else said almost those exact words, so this is a somewhat excusable interpretation.In post 79, Road Kamelot wrote:So then why was it scummy for Gamma to join the mykonian wagon in your opinionIn post 78, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:I joined the gamma wagon because a wagon has to form to move the game somewhere. I'm being misstepped right now. Will explain once I'm off phone in a few minutes
Thats building wagons
MTD hit the nail on the head. He spotted that you were implying that I had said things that I did not say. You also dug yourself deeper and deeper into misrepresenting me when I had clearly posted above that I would explain when I got home off the phone soon.In post 87, Road Kamelot wrote:If it was bull Kyouko would have said my intepretation was wrong and we go from thereIn post 86, MTD wrote:because your question had the baseline that he said it was scummy which is bullshit.
Instead u decide to attack my questioning of the player youre voting
There's a wiki page with commonly used acronyms in it. I've been reading a lot of the wiki since I started.In post 181, Errantparabola wrote:how the fuck do people who have never played on MS (and in kyouko's case, on forums) know what NAI stands for? Is this some sort of internet-wide thing?
12 looked thoughtful in comparison to 13. 12 looked like the first somewhat serious post to me in RVS, then Gamma posts something similar, and it gets pointed out that Gamma copied what was actually a blank post, that I, being inexperienced, saw as substantive for how early on it was. I agreed with the reasoning that Gamma copying a blank looked scummy so I voted him.In post 236, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:
Kyokou
- What did you find "thoughtful" about Mykonian's 12?
- wrt to 98, you should always want to lynch the person you're most suspicious of, especially D1. that's how u get shit done. caring about wagon composition/what the people you're voting with are doing is a little too big-picture thinking for early game to me at least.
- wrt to 100, I agree with your philosophy on D1 wagons, but with the information that was available at the time of your vote there was information to make a more informed vote imo. What are your reads on Gamma and Mykonian?
I didn't even notice this earlier. Town doesn't just accuse a slot of being mad at them for something that happened in a separate game, especially when nadroj hasn't even done anything to him this game.In post 59, Gamma Emerald wrote:Yeah
I'm going to expand on my experience with XnadrojX
We played a chat game where I pushed his mislynch as town
Now he is mad at me
What makes you say that? RK was attacking me with the basis that I had said something that I didn't say. Maybe she was just scum hunting me, but I don't buy that just yet. She's still my #2 suspect.
Gonna get on computer soon to look back on why people are voting mykonian. I am still curious why you think my vote on RK was awful though. Not sure if you ignored my question intentionally or not.In post 347, Transcend wrote:Wagonomics suggest that mykonian is an infinitely better lynch than Gamma Emerald
I said that because I saw your 255. As I said in that post, I had drafted up a post about why gamma is my #1 suspect, but was waiting to post it. You said something that I had thought of but not yet posted, so I pointed it out. I like you more for town now. I also like that gigabyte addressed Gamma's RQS in a constructive way instead of just answering and giving away info that could potentially aid scum!Gamma, but I had already posted my Gamma thoughts at that point so I don't lean town for him as much as I do you.In post 369, Joshz wrote:Fuck it w.e
SSBM: earlier you said I'm onto gamma. What did you mean by this?
Everyone else: are there likely 3 or 4 scum? I don't know how it's usually set up here
@giga (from a really old question) To clarify, I had seen all of page 1 when I replied to Maria's 20 with my 35. I was completely caught up to 38 when I voted gamma in that post.
This isn't directed at me is it? Who is this directed at? I'm voting myko currentlyIn post 534, gigabyteTroubadour wrote: what do you have wrong with a myko wagon? i agree that gamma is a good vote but part of that is that i think they're likely partners (and gamma is scummy on his own to me)
Been following this but the conversation on myko somewhat died out. I see what you're trying to say about EP's activity, but why don't you think the same of me? I like his iso, he's keeping people talking about their SRs.In post 671, Joshz wrote:Call me crazy
My gut is feeling an ep lynch. He's had a couple good wall posts... and that's about it. He's gone for two low risk votes being gamma and Jordan, about and hasn't followed through convincing us to vote them. And seeing as nobody else replied I take it nobody besides mykonian and EP have a scum read on Jordan, further convincing me it was a failed attempt at an easy lynch. I town read ep hard initially and that is also interesting to note, because he's fairly experienced from what I can tell so he'd know how to appear townie and yet after he generated some discussion he disappeared until he next wallpost. Scroll through his iso, there's a ton of fluff and he only starts discussions, not participates for the most part, which removes responsibility.
In post 747, mykonian wrote:Fuck that mate. You lynch to get scum. Not because you just like to lynch. Bring better arguments.In post 743, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:I still think that Myko or Gamma flips are the most valuable right now.
So when I read these posts I feel like you're holding my vote to a different standard than your own. It looks like you don't think it's okay for me to vote for one of my 2 strongest SRs to get good info off the flip, but it's fine for you to vote for one of your SRs to get Maria info off the flip.In post 761, mykonian wrote:I'd really prefer Jordan. If he flips scum that's damning for Maria, town the other way around. And where you have the advantage of knowing Maria pretty well, apparently, I don't, and I see something quite objectively scummy in Jordan. Maria is just "off". Not saying no, but really rather not.
I get he's doing that aside from when he talked about why 4 of the 5 votes on him were scummy/bad, whatever he said (cba to check right now, lunch break is almost over and I'm on phone), but why are you talking about myko of all people right now? I would think you'd be more concerned about how Gerry and Joshz just moved their votes from Maria to Gamma, so why are you pointing out Myko's behavior here?In post 782, kraska77 wrote:Can u guys stop being dumb and not vote anything that moves or were never consolidating on anythingHe's completely ignoring people's calls for a lynch on him...I fail to see why town would pretend their wagons don't exist. It feels like hes laying low and waiting for people to get distracted by other things or the votes on him to dissipateIn post 773, mykonian wrote:yeah. Don't get his person, nothing about his posts stands out to me. I'm aware he's there, I'm reading what he posts... most of the time, but I just can't be bothered one way or another. Feels very meh indeed. Uhm, how could I put this clearer.
I think he's trying, his posts just don't do anything for me? Something like that.
I'm notIn post 804, Gamma Emerald wrote:The fact ssbm is still focusing on 12/13 is bad
Was just rereading some recent Gamma after seeing theIn post 809, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:I'm notIn post 804, Gamma Emerald wrote:The fact ssbm is still focusing on 12/13 is badfocusingon 12/13. 12/13 and the conversation to follow involved several players and was pretty polarizing early on, before people really started outing reads that would help scum blend in. After the conversation about that died out, the things said by you both have not caused me to think you are any more towny, and some of the things said have made me think you're both scummier. You both have had enough time and posts to convince me you're town and I don't see it, so between you two is where my vote will stay until either 1.) someone else does something I find blatantly scummy or 2.) I am led to believe by the both of you are both town
Kraska- There have been a few people who have voiced that they would be okay with lynching me or that they want to, but if they aren't going to vote me or present a case I'm not going to get upset by it. A weak vote will not illicit a strong response from me, and it seems like a lot of people are just unsure about me. I'm not going to reread 30+ pages to verify this, but I'm pretty sure most of the people who have voiced that they were thinking about lynching me also stated they would rather lynch someone else instead. There's probably only been like 2-3 posts where someone has said they want to lynch me as their highest/only priority right now,
This is obviously RVS
NAI without a flip on Myko
Soon after this Gamma claims he voted Transcend because he saw his posts as scummy, but didn't elaborate on anything at all.In post 287, Gamma Emerald wrote:That's the reasonIn post 285, mykonian wrote:Surely this has a reason that actually connects copycat to scummyness, right?
we are really past the point of joke votes.
fite me m8
Here he talks about the original copycatting again even though his reason for voting transcend supposedly had nothing to do with the copycatting, before unvoting, seemingly also for no good reason.In post 728, Gamma Emerald wrote:UNVOTE: Transcend
As much as his copycatting makes me lose it, there's eviler scum to fry.
Here he says he hasn't decided a good vote yet, but this late into D1 you've got to have suspicions of someone, even if it's someone like jordan who's just been too quiet. Then he votes someone for an awful reason to appease joshIn post 801, Gamma Emerald wrote:Sorry hadn't decided a good vote yetIn post 789, Joshz wrote:Not voting at this stage of the game on top of already being my second biggest scum read... bleh
VOTE: Gerry
His vote on me is opportunistic
Again, Gamma just follows along with what Josh is saying about how Maria Gerry was SvS and staged. He's just going with the flow, not looking for any of his own reasons to vote someone.In post 820, Gamma Emerald wrote:kinda felt that wayIn post 818, Joshz wrote:I'm fine with lynching either gamma or myko so my vote might be gamma but consider myko 5 too. That hasn't changed.
Fun thought though: what if that whole awful Maria gerry interaction was SvS and staged?
Gerry's response to my vote was okay tho
UNVOTE:
This is a natural reaction for town or scum to switch onto the wagon of your attacker, especially if it is picking up steam.