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True on both counts.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
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Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
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No, me. Or I can become a jester and self vote that'd be cool tooShowhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
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Nah roleblock means you go nowhere.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
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I'd bet the game on Jae being town at this point. Obv impo is town too.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
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Even night strongman maybe? Or they just were REALLY scared that ccc would be on right track?Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
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I want to be scum in this oneIn post 1495, Impoetic wrote:please can i be deconfirmed as townShowhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
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Cloud had ELITE jester play here tho.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
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Btw, I'm weak visitor. That's why I basically knew ccc was town, barring a theoretical role block. Now I need to decide whether to bet the game on jae being town or running an elite scam. Decisions decisions...Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
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And if you look at my d2 you'd see how I was consistently keeping ccc at the top of my town reads. That's why.
I was actually gonna visit trans n1 and soft but lol hammer happened first so I had to pick an actual strong town read.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
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Yep. At this point I need to bet the game on someone.
Jae, why did you track me n1 and cloud n2? And why scum read me d2 after tracking me to someone who didn't die?Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
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Didn't. Odd night.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
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I try not to beat people over the head with my results, especially since it's possible that I was rbd somehow. The closest to a soft was that I kept ccc on top of town reads no matter what.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
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This would normally be accompanied by actual effortIn post 1522, VWXYZ wrote:at any time sonia is gonna come smash a hammer on all of us so we mgiht as well try our best nowShowhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
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My town is impo
My town leans are jae Io and trans
My POE can decide among themselves which of them they want to vote since I doubt it's 3/3.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
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Were there reasons or just blanket statements? You did say you need to try your best.In post 1524, VWXYZ wrote:
i already said i think trasncend is maf with IOIn post 1523, mhsmith0 wrote:
This would normally be accompanied by actual effortIn post 1522, VWXYZ wrote:at any time sonia is gonna come smash a hammer on all of us so we mgiht as well try our best nowShowhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
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Actually trans is null. Could easily be scum here.
Lean town Io tho setup spec could make that one interesting. Don't want her to die in first LYLO at least.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
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And I said, you should have actual effort here if you're going to call for effort. Or you could just LOL cat if scum I guess.In post 1527, VWXYZ wrote:
AS IN THE TOWN HERE WE CAN TRY OUR BEST TO SCUM HUNTIn post 1526, mhsmith0 wrote:
Were there reasons or just blanket statements? You did say you need to try your best.In post 1524, VWXYZ wrote:
i already said i think trasncend is maf with IOIn post 1523, mhsmith0 wrote:
This would normally be accompanied by actual effortIn post 1522, VWXYZ wrote:at any time sonia is gonna come smash a hammer on all of us so we mgiht as well try our best nowShowhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
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Nope lolIn post 1531, Transcend wrote:Does me swearing on my ass and my life mean nothing lol.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
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And reasons are___? Again, you're promising effort so doubtless you'll have something useful here.In post 1532, VWXYZ wrote:trasncedn could be maf i could see that very likely yesShowhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
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If anyone is uncomfortable w me betting the game on town!jae speak now or forever stfu in post game.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
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Thoughts on anything at all useful?In post 1536, Hermie wrote:I'm townie. Vanilla townieShowhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
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I asked if you had thoughts on anythign useful. A vt claim isn't particularly useful.
That said, what convinced you on rb?Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
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Technically impo is safest but at some point you have to roll the dice. Obv if jae is scum then it's gg unless I suss out and go to impo instead. Also don't track me jae, track someone who might actually be scum just in case they shoot impo instead of you.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
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Are you aware there was a lynch and this is twilight?In post 1544, Hermie wrote:Because at this point I'm a hindrance to town. I have no good reads. I have no night action. And I'm read as scummy.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
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2 way now lolShowhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
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Yep. Part of me tinfoiling about jae being scum tracker, but idk why scum tracker would prioritize me n1 or not shoot me n2 given that they'd KNOW I was pr, especially given the "I have a clear on ccc but I'm trying to be subtle about it" bit.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
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VOTE: titus
Easy game.
I'm actually weak odd night DOCTOR. Lolol wolves.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
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Also I guess it's not Io-transcend, was super worried she was going for the win by getting me to visit her buddy and blame jae for my night flip.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
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Btw, feel free to skim my early day two talking about my conclusion that trans was NOT scum because ccc did NOT die n1. THAT was why I protected him, because I was tinfoiling on trans, and figured scum!trans would likely kill ccc.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
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Also jae you can look at my hood chat to see how I was working on Io with fake setup spec and trying to divert her to a maybe PR (no point saying who here), in case that person died (in which case I'd have hard driven an Io lynch today).Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
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Also I was trying to super down play my role especially since she'd speculated in hood I was doc, since I REALLY didn't want to get shot last night for obvious reasons.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
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Well frankly the visitor thing was partially me tinfoiling and panicking after seeming mislynch and trash!town showing by cloud. So basically if I survived jae was conf!town (and maybe gets a useful result) and if not then game over lol.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
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Even night doc. Would make sense given my odd night. I think he claimed just the one n2 visit?Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
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I mean we can still mass claim for the lulz, but unless we think after mass claim that full doc + odd night doc is plausible setup wise I'd say that Titus is basically outed (sorry Titus <3 )Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
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So presuming all VT claims, ? is if
1-shot gs
Odd night weak doc
Tracker
Neighborizer
Is enough power against a 3 goon team. It's fairly obvious my role is swingy as hell (again, smith GOAT ), so it becomes whether it's overall enough to counter a potential n1 derp by my role. I tentatively say yes, though obviously if scum have power (role block strongman etc) it's at least conceivable that Sonia went weird w town design. Titus like 90% wolf here tho I think.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
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BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
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Actually he's pretty explicitly calling Cloud a town dumbass, not a caught scum. Like, literally he's reacting with "I totally think Cloud is town here" text.In post 1620, Titus wrote:
You are misinterpreting those posts.In post 1605, JaeReed wrote:In post 1466, rb wrote:I wonder if fakeclaiming VT as town doc is something anyone has ever done before? ROFL.
.Sorry I know it's bad for town but that's so shit I have to laugh
This doesn't look like a slot that is the real Town Doctor with Cloud's fakeclaim.In post 1469, rb wrote:.At least my read on Cloud being a potato, albeit a town potato, is now proven correct.
Never go full potato Cloud
He's saying the theory that Cloud is fake claiming Doctor is preposterous. Look at his tone. The entire time, RB thinks we had hit scum because of this trolling.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
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@Titus: here are cleared townies
me
Jae
Impo
if you want to argue that you're a for real doc, you need to
1) Figure out a scum team that actually makes sense given the clears
2) Figure out how a full doc and an odd night weak doc make sense in setup
because you have literally no chance of getting me lynched here. My postings have been EXTREMELY consistent with my role, including my n1 visit to CCC and its result, my reaction to cloud's seeming game throw was EXTREMELY difficult to fake, and my talk in the hood was completely consistent with trying to potentially fake out Io if she was somehow scum.
Zero of these things are reasonably within my scum range.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
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BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
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not mod confirmed, but by now I should be very very very very very obvious town, with my role claim, my actions supporting that claim, my early D2 posts consistent with that claim (including pretty much explaining why I targeted CCC there), my reaction to the cloud lynch, and my posts in the hood (the last of which you obviously can't see).In post 1626, Impoetic wrote:Despite that, you aren't confirmed town, are you?Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
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With my ability only being odd night, it was very obviously possible that there was SOME kind of even night protective role (doc, jk, rb), so the idea that cloud was a doc, just an even night doc, seemed pretty realistic. Moreover, the way he reacted to his lynch seemed genuine, adding to my belief in it.In post 1628, Titus wrote:You mean you visit CCC night 1 and he dies night 2.
I love how you pat yourself on the back saying your reaction was difficult to fake, yet you slipped (and I believe someone quoted it unless that's the liquor talking) that you believed Clod. That isn't a town doctor reaction. A town doctor would know it's a lie and try to hide it, thus generating a fake reaction.
I don't have any idea what you said in the hood, but you are scum.
You have a zero percent chance of getting me lynched and you tried to intimidate me. I stare down fights from scum on a daily basis.
Fight me. In the process, you'll tell me your buddy.
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It's conceivable at least on a theory basis, in part because I've seen some bizarre setups go through normal review, and it really depends on how much NRG would value a neighborizer and an odd night weak doc, both of which are pretty non-standard roles. It seems really strange for it to actually be the case, but I'm at least going to consider the possibility.In post 1632, Impoetic wrote:But from Titus's pov, you are practically a CC, so you aren't really confirmed town to them and telling them to appeal to you as if you were seems really strange to me.
I also don't want to give Titus the easy out (presuming she's scum, which is pretty likely) of just trying to 1v1 me and not bother having to engage with anything else.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
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In post 1596, mhsmith0 wrote:VOTE: titus
Easy game.
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It would require substantial scum power. The problem is, I've seen Normal setups that are closer to role madness than standard normal games, most notably chilledtea's one, which had a five town PR's (mainly shitty ones) and two full scum PR's (mainly designed to tear through town power). Titus could probably attest to that given that she was scum in that game (and I still hold that the setup was ludicrously scum-sided by MS standards, with the ultimate derp moment being when a reviewer decided that when I BG'd someone and died that was more pro town than if I was a doctor and stopped the kill).In post 1638, JaeReed wrote:Btw, I'm pretty sure this is 100% what not to do in this situation. At least lynching in the doc claims gives us 1 for 1, and we don't have to try to sort between them in lylo. I don't believe there could be 2 town docs. Not even with smith's claim being as swingy as it is.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
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Still not gonna happen. If you really want to thunderdome this and totally ignore the rest of the game state, you can, but it's increasingly obvious to me that you're intentionally avoiding any kind of useful commentary because you're in anti-spew mode.In post 1639, Titus wrote:Now that we've established that I missed your vote, you can stop looking for an exit hatch.
You're scum. You can talk about everyone else to look for an exit hatch. You want a diversion. That's the same reason you talked to me about finding others as if I was town.
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Actually that's a fair point. I guess it's thunderdome then. At least this will make the re-read more interesting. Sorry you replaced into a scum role again; fortunately you won't escape like you did in 1775.In post 1643, Titus wrote:Yeah, scum have ridiculous power to explain why we're both town and how you investigate when we have a tracker and heal when we have a doctor.
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You do realize that I claimed odd night weak visitor D3, AND claimed my target of Jae, right? I await your theory about why I'd do this in advance of a doc claim which (presuming I'm scum fake-claiming) very well might not exist at all.In post 1646, Titus wrote:Oh, I love you starting the Titus is good at scum shade.
Your role cannot exist.
Two or three investigatives and a protective while scum can do nothing? Don't think so. That would never pass balance.
You went for more utility in your fakeclaim for the tiebreaker and got busted.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
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SeeIn post 1651, Impoetic wrote:No, you claimed weak visitor. No odd-night affix.In post 1506, mhsmith0 wrote:Btw, I'm weak visitor. That's why I basically knew ccc was town, barring a theoretical role block. Now I need to decide whether to bet the game on jae being town or running an elite scam. Decisions decisions...In post 1511, mhsmith0 wrote:Didn't. Odd night.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
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In post 1662, Titus wrote:mhsmith0 claimed a role that overloads town given how little power scum must have. A weak doctor, gs, and tracker with no scum power.
It would never pass review. Scum would be PoEd unless they made perfect kills.
A limited weak doctor is super swingy, a 1-shot GS is like a bit of icing on the cake, and a tracker is mediocre utility in a game of this size (with neighborizer a role I don't really have a sense of the power of). Frankly, the reason why I gave your claim any credence at all is that I think you can make a case that town is UNDER-powered given the roles on the board against a three-goon (or two goon and something small like encryptor or 1-shot role cop or the like) team.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
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Essentially for me to be a scum PR, it'd have to be:
Not strongman (since someone else died N1)
Not roleblocker (since CCC got a result)
Not role cop (because I'm not an idiot wrt night kills, and would shoot a 1-shot GS exactly never)
So you're basically down to something like neapolitan or vanilla cop or tracker, and it's kind of a weird thing for a scum PR to visit CCC on N1 unless there was some kind of PR soft that I'd missed. If I'm scum I'd be a lot more likely to visit one of the people hanging back to find out if they were either a PR or (if not) a good potential mislynch wagon on D2/3.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
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Impoetic is cleared by CCC's gunsmith shot. Not sure what to make of that derpclear attempt; obviously scum would 100% know that Impo was cleared (unless we're truly dealing with lol wolves), so if Hermie genuinely didn't know, then it's a legit derpclear. The problem I have is, I'm skeptical Hermie didn't now, given the seeming effort he made to re-read the thread in order to pick out specific Impo quotes.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
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meh, i'll look back to see if titus/hermie make sense together. def. not tongiht though.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
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I thought Hermie was more interesting and pushy in the newbie game when we were together as town, and here he's been more UTR. I haven't really been digging for connections, though, and frankly I spent a decent chunk of N3 tinfoiling that it was Io/Trans and I was gonna get NK'd by being too obvious about trying to bury Io's doc read of me, and any time when I think there's a realistic chance that I'd die, I'm a lot less likely to put a lot of attention into a thread.In post 1688, Titus wrote:What are your thoughts on their play? You made a big deal about not having narrow focus and now you avoid comments on Hermie.
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mq?In post 1697, Hermie wrote:Mhsmith. My mq is the exact reason I've been quiet this game. Any time I think I have come up with something it's because I missed some vital part of information that makes what ever it is I'm pushing at that Moment entirely irrelevant.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
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spicy. What makes you think me and trans fit together?In post 1695, Titus wrote:Tbh, I am leaning mhsmith0 and Transcend.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
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The "don't quick vote" -> "quick votes" only works as a contradiction if you ignore the context of expecting a cloud town flip. If he's scum, then he knew that a scum flip was coming, so the first part was noise. If he's town, then he actually expected a town flip, and of course you'd want to hammer home the point of not letting the wolves get a quick hammer going.In post 1702, Titus wrote:Transcends entrance did not make a lick of sense.
He said in twilight nobody vote.
He votes my slot early on entrance.
When he sees it is me, he switches to buddying tone but tries to justify still voting me.
The introduction to me seems to know a CC is coming and he wants to be on my good side.
He also weakly distances from you and vanishes when the CC hits the fan.
I'll tentatively agree that the backout of the scum read was awkward, though I don't especially see why a theoretical scum-buddy of mine would do that given that I've been a more solid town read than your slot, and I'd already (in that world) had a fake claim pretty well prepped. Why get into the middle of it there for no real gain at all?Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
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In post 1715, Titus wrote:Yup, mhsmith finds time to defend Transcend but not actually answer on H.
Gg scum. Now it's just convincing JaeReed and I and the rest of the town to do the right thing.
I'd given a short answer (different from his newbie game), and said I'd re-read in detail later. "Later" has not yet arrived.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
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I'm not going to have time for this one until the weekend. Sorry guys.
btw Jae, as a tip for the future, in the spot where Titus was pushing you to claim a result, it's better to insist on a mass claim first (and in fact to insist on this before saying anything about who you tracked and what you found). That way she's forced to make a claim without knowing whether or not you actually know anything about her slot.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
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lol, 1 of 2 things just happened:In post 1767, VWXYZ wrote:OK IM HERE AND IM MAKING A LONG POST CAUSE I FORGOT ABOUT THIS GAME BUT WHEN I FIRST JOINED THIS GAME I ROLLED UNIVERSAL BACKUP I THINK ITS CALLED WHICH SAYS WHEN A TOWN POWER ROLE HAS DIED YOU WILL TAKE OVER THEIR ABILITIES/ POWERS SO WHEN THAT ONE KID DIED WHO WAS GUNSMITH I WAS LIKE COOL I GET TO GIVE SOMEONE GUN BUT NO THAT ISNT WHAT THIS DOES APPARENTLY MEANS I TARGET A NIGHT TO LEARN IF THEY HAVE A GUN??? SO THE WIKI I READ SAID MEMBERS OF THE MAFIA THAT ARE NOT DOCTORS COPS FBI AGENTS VIGILANTES OTHER GUNSMITHS PARANOID GUN OWNERS ETC ALL HAVE GUNS IN TRADITIONAL FLAVOR NOTABLY SERIAL KLLER AND DOCTORS DO NOT HAVE GUNS SO I CHECKED TRANSCEND AND SONIA TOLD ME HE HAD A GUN IS THIS BAD IS TRANSCEND MAF?? IDK U TELL ME IM JUST SAYING MY REPORT BOYS
1) Sonia just used a VERY non-normal application of UB
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Trans, just for the absolute record, you aren't claiming any kind of role with gun, correct? Just on the SUPER outside chance Sonia went super wacky on game design?Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
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VOTE: vwxyz
lol wolves
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@Titus: this is the sort of thing you're supposed to coach against in scum chat
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If someone wants me to explain why VW's claim is 100% impossible in standard normal design I'd be happy to by the way.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
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