I haven't even posted yet!
Well known in have but that is not the point!
I haven't even posted yet!
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I have played before. A lot.In post 35, copper223 wrote:@Creeps
Normally games on mafiascum start with a random voting stage (check the wiki if you want more info), that's likely why TwoFace came up with your name, despite there being no posts from you.
One possible reason for your reaction, assuming you didn't know about the random voting stage (RVS) convention, is that you are scum and surprised there is already a vote on you, is that it?
Want examples?
How can I have be alt account if I have played newbie games?
I too much hands are pointed everywhere.MortFeld wrote:Thanks. Agree, was very awkward.
Creeps, do you have a particular reason you didn't participate in RVS?
Who said I hadn't played elsewhere?In post 52, Human Sequencer wrote:VOTE: Creeps
Sure, you've probably played somewhere else, but calling on player meta when you've played about two games is pretty fucking stupid to be honest. Especially when that call is a complete cop out to try and disregard a scumslip. The end of 51 reads scummy intent and guilty conscience to me.
Mastermind misreadIn post 57, Creeps20 wrote:Who said I hadn't played elsewhere?In post 52, Human Sequencer wrote:VOTE: Creeps
Sure, you've probably played somewhere else, but calling on player meta when you've played about two games is pretty fucking stupid to be honest. Especially when that call is a complete cop out to try and disregard a scumslip. The end of 51 reads scummy intent and guilty conscience to me.
I meant nevermind! Stupid autocorrectIn post 58, Creeps20 wrote:Mastermind misreadIn post 57, Creeps20 wrote:Who said I hadn't played elsewhere?In post 52, Human Sequencer wrote:VOTE: Creeps
Sure, you've probably played somewhere else, but calling on player meta when you've played about two games is pretty fucking stupid to be honest. Especially when that call is a complete cop out to try and disregard a scumslip. The end of 51 reads scummy intent and guilty conscience to me.
"Too much fingers to point. Not enough answers"In post 60, MortFeld wrote:Why does this make her scum? i.e. why would scum be more likely to do this than town?In post 56, Creeps20 wrote:MortFeld wrote: Anyways I feel like misatange is scum by ignoring thinkbig who voted drone and voted for someone else who did essentially the same.
VOTE: Misatange
I need a Creeps translator again.In post 56, Creeps20 wrote:I too much hands are pointed everywhere.MortFeld wrote:Thanks. Agree, was very awkward.
Creeps, do you have a particular reason you didn't participate in RVS?
In all honesty I ignore threads when they are in RvS. And besides it never ends well when I do vote. If no one noticed that would have went well for ignoring thinkbig.In post 71, MortFeld wrote:Why didn't you answer this Misa? I still don't know why you switched to Naomi from Copper.In post 15, MortFeld wrote:Hold on. You voted Naomi basically randomly. Then you switched to Copper for something you thought was slightly scummy. I assume you now believe it's NAI, otherwise you wouldn't switch your vote. If neither Naomi nor Copper have done anything alignment indicative, why switch back to Naomi?
Why would scum!Misa, knowing that her scum buddy voted an unconfirmed, cast suspicion on someone else who did the same?In post 70, Creeps20 wrote:"Too much fingers to point. Not enough answers"In post 60, MortFeld wrote:Why does this make her scum? i.e. why would scum be more likely to do this than town?In post 56, Creeps20 wrote:MortFeld wrote: Anyways I feel like misatange is scum by ignoring thinkbig who voted drone and voted for someone else who did essentially the same.
VOTE: Misatange
I need a Creeps translator again.In post 56, Creeps20 wrote:I too much hands are pointed everywhere.MortFeld wrote:Thanks. Agree, was very awkward.
Creeps, do you have a particular reason you didn't participate in RVS?
And I am suggesting maf brothers.
As for RVS, it seems like random voting is what generates the material that leads to answers. Saying 'there are too many people voting and too many to vote' isn't a reason not to participate in RVS.
Nah that is not the cause. It's because I am always scummy.In post 75, Human Sequencer wrote:I think we found the source of your 'EVERYBODY SCUMREADS ME' problem.In post 74, Creeps20 wrote: In all honesty I ignore threads when they are in RvS.
Unlike you I have an uncanny habit of mslynching power roles in RvS. No seriously I do.In post 77, MisaTange wrote:If you're worried about lynching a town by mistake, a. we have a couple of MLs so it's nottoobig, b. there is a likely chance that someone, if not themselves, will defend someone in some certain way. This is also my experience as a 'scummy town if town' type of person. Hell, I've being shat on and voted on to hell and back again and peoplearestill defending me. RvS is for pressure. It's how we break the ice.
I refer to voting as lynching.In post 80, MortFeld wrote:Misa - It's not a great answer (voting someone because they are confirmed but haven't posted??) but I don't see any point in pressing it.
My best effort at Creeps translation: RVS is pointless. Even in this game, simply ignoring TB made people suspicious of Misa.In post 74, Creeps20 wrote:In all honesty I ignore threads when they are in RvS. And besides it never ends well when I do vote. If no one noticed that would have went well for ignoring thinkbig.
I'm confused because you said that you think TB and Misa might be scum buddies, meaning that RVS was useful. Also I don't see how this answers "Why would scum!Misa, knowing that her scum buddy voted an unconfirmed, cast suspicion on someone else who did the same?" I feel like you haven't explained your Misa vote logically.
How do you even lynch someone during RVS, Creeps?
1. Well sometimes there are a claim limit of 1 a day. That gets wasted and we kill someone who may be innoIn post 83, MisaTange wrote:Ugh, this feels like an excuse not to participate in RvS.
1. People tend to know that RvS wagons are just RvS wagons; pressure.
2. If needed, people can claim at L-1 and redirect the votes, and people here tend to announce whether someone's at L-1. May be different in your previous forum but Mafiascum is a completely different atmosphere, and I can speak from someone who first came from a Mafia forum.
3. RTFT if nobody has announced L-1, which is weird.
Well it is mass rolesIn post 86, TwoFace wrote:where the heck have you been playing mafia? that's the dumbest rule everIn post 84, Creeps20 wrote:1. Well sometimes there are a claim limit of 1 a day. That gets wasted and we kill someone who may be inno
The last sentence refers to the first question.In post 85, MortFeld wrote:Creeps, what about the other two parts of my post? Those being:
Can you explain your idea of TB + Misa scumbuddies, specifically with regard to my question? and
Can you translate what you meant by 'And besides it never ends well when I do vote. If no one noticed that would have went well for ignoring thinkbig.'
UNVOTE: Misa
VOTE: Creeps
Bad logic is not necessarily scummy.
Can we just quit this? I need to study some past quotes. This is going to be WIFOM.In post 90, MortFeld wrote:I understand that Misa voted Copper and not TB. Your sentence does not explain how voting Copper for a specific reason, when TB did the same thing as Copper, is a reasonable scum strategy.
Random vote
I still don't get this vote
In post 52, Human Sequencer wrote:VOTE: Creeps
Sure, you've probably played somewhere else, but calling on player meta when you've played about two games is pretty fucking stupid to be honest. Especially when that call is a complete cop out to try and disregard a scumslip. The end of 51 reads scummy intent and guilty conscience to me.
I don't trust this guy. Yet.In post 62, MisaTange wrote:In post 56, Creeps20 wrote: Anyways I feel like misatange is scum by ignoring thinkbig who voted drone and voted for someone else who did essentially the same.
VOTE: Misatange
The wait was caused by a few tech difficultiesDUDE I WAS FRIQQIN SLEEPING I WAKE UP AT UNGODLY HOURS I LITERALLY CANNOT DEFEND WHEN I'M SLEEPING
Also I have one vote so I can put pressure on only one of the two people who did that
Since I now believe that is NAI, I believe early votes work much better if they get put in a confirmed, but not yet posted, slot. I understand timezones/work/school/etc, but it gives some incentive to post (a person with a lack of posts is unhelpful at best, and worst case scenario, people scumread inactivity).
I actually voted Naomi instead of Chaos literally just because I remember her one of the few people who has a 2+ year old account, I forgot what the other one is
Also Creeps has an awkward reaction to Copper's RvS vote. If we're going by meta, he acted a little bit more calmly towards the RvS vote previously, but this makes me curious. And also Creeps have played Forum Mafia in other forums as well.
VOTE: Creeps
Referring to me or you?In post 85, MortFeld wrote:Creeps, what about the other two parts of my post? Those being:
Can you explain your idea of TB + Misa scumbuddies, specifically with regard to my question? and
Can you translate what you meant by 'And besides it never ends well when I do vote. If no one noticed that would have went well for ignoring thinkbig.'
UNVOTE: Misa
VOTE: Creeps
Bad logic is not necessarily scummy.
The WIFOM is that scum wouldn't be voting him as that would give him away. But scum could take advantage of that. But scum might think town suspects that so won't do it.In post 93, MortFeld wrote:It's not WIFOM. You voted Misa for a reason and I'm asking you to explain the reason.
Why do I feel this has scum intent?In post 166, TwoFace wrote:Btw I disagree with you. I think most scum would be afraid to say they don't have reads.
Why would you think that if you were not scum? Discrediting another's work on yourselfbeing shown as scum is bad sided. I know my stuff more than you think.In post 172, TwoFace wrote:Idk. Maybe cause you are an inexperienced player.In post 168, Creeps20 wrote:Why do I feel this has scum intent?In post 166, TwoFace wrote:Btw I disagree with you. I think most scum would be afraid to say they don't have reads.
Man I was scared of posting for a long time
VOTE: MortFieldIn post 179, MortFeld wrote:ThinkBig, why are you voting for Misa? I asked you this way before, please answer.
UNVOTE: Creeps
VOTE: Copper
You're voting Creeps but you think Creeps is lynchbaity and will unvote if Creeps gets to L-1? How is your vote even accomplishing anything then?
Because I am taking every precaution I can to make sure town wins.In post 198, MortFeld wrote:Sure, I'll explain this. Copper made a statement that essentially said: I am voting someone I think is lynchbait (therefore town) and I will unvote them if they get to L-1. So he's not voting a SR and he's not voting for pressure. It's a parked pointless vote - by his own reasoning - and I think that behavior is more likely to come from scum than town.In post 197, Creeps20 wrote:VOTE: MortFieldIn post 179, MortFeld wrote:ThinkBig, why are you voting for Misa? I asked you this way before, please answer.
UNVOTE: Creeps
VOTE: Copper
You're voting Creeps but you think Creeps is lynchbaity and will unvote if Creeps gets to L-1? How is your vote even accomplishing anything then?
I strongly despise this statement. You are complaining about someone voting me and be willing to unvote. Care to explain?
Yes I know this is essentially OMGUS but I really need something to do. I bet I will get hammered of this statement but if I flip green go for this guy please. If red then ignore this statement and ignore this vote and post.
Is there any other reason you SR me?
Also why would you even say 'if I flip red?' From your perspective that should be impossible.
Simple. You asked a lot of questions to me. And I am pretty sure that is tunnelingIn post 201, MortFeld wrote:Very dramatic, Creeps.
Can you answer my question:In case you're actually interested in convincing people I'm scum.In post 198, MortFeld wrote: Is there any other reason you SR me?108In post 200, TwoFace wrote:If copper actually said that, that's a good point out by mort. I don't remember seeing it though.
I was referring to framer. If he exists. I always think in a larger area with most outcomesIn post 296, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:You can if you want to.In post 292, MortFeld wrote:If you'd like I can post a reads list and you can determine for yourself how accurate I am.
If you're going to play like this, sub out. Stop pretending to not know your own alignment.In post 293, Creeps20 wrote:Since you are all so certain of being scum get cop on me tonight. Preferably lookout as well too stop framing. I highly doubt that I can do much due to the massive wagon on me.
If I end up showing red feel free to kill me instantly. I don't mind.
Oh yeah when I am in a sour mood I don't state reasons. And I am most definitely in a sour mood. For outside rewsons
I don't like to respond to people who I think are scum
Is it? I really don't see that role that way.In post 304, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:No, that role is way too unfair for town in a good scum teams hands.In post 302, Creeps20 wrote:I don't like to respond to people who I think are scum
@Copper - I guess it could be. I don't know how to not waste a day and get at least 1 vote of me. I have been terrible at defences and shall always be.
@Uzi - It doesn't count as normal? Oh.
No there is a reason. You just don't know what it is yet. And I won't reveal.In post 349, Drone wrote:Can you confirm they didn't? If so they're lying on purpose. As town they'd have no purpose to lie about that.
You should be concluding they're scum, you should be voting them, no?
Anything else, you're throwing shade.
Pedit: same for Uzi.
I'm not thin skinned, I just can't tolerate a game played this way. It's written in my wiki page that I'm harsh with a habit of being intolerant towards negative attitude.
About Creeps:
There's absolutely no reason why town would want to keep him alive, yet this behaviour is just way too scummy. As I said, he it might be WIFOM, but highly unlikely.
True.In post 542, Toto wrote:@Copper: I'm sorry you had to replace out.
Let's try to keep things civilized guys. I also dislike colorful language. I understand some people use it to create pressure but it really doesn't help town in the end.
Not inactive. Scared to post.In post 547, Drone wrote:Agree on TB case.In post 529, ChaosOmega wrote:
Other players...
ThinkBig's iso looks pretty ok to me. Anyone that's scumreading him, mind showing me what you're seeing there?
Drone, why did you unvote TwoFace? And why are you not voting Misa?
About mine: me not voting Misa is a direct outcome of the inactivity I spoke of, where I meant the replacements and lots of others being inactive (you, TB and Creeps) when I said I can't work with the inactivity.
Not to mention Misa is replacing out, sometimes it's not the slot, but the players that make the difference.
I just can't focus right now with the recent events. Need things to get back to order.
TF unvote is because I feel my reads on him are based on huge and sad misread on both TF's, and Copper's sides.
To keep the vote I have to be sure I'm doing the right thing, and to be sure I'll have to ISO TF, again.
Which part?
Copper feels townish. Let's see what is going on with his replacement shall we?In post 552, TwoFace wrote:I wouldn't object to a misa lynch. Much better than a TB lynch. Not as good as a copper or HS lynch though.
I just didIn post 559, MortFeld wrote:Then your Misa vote is unexplained.
I literally see no too little simularity.In post 563, MortFeld wrote:Oh I see. You said Misa is different this game than last game. Different how?
Nothing she did at all was in line with her behavior hereIn post 566, MortFeld wrote:I... don't really feel like I should have to read that game to understand how Misa's been different this game. Like I think you should be able to articulate it. What did she do last game that was town and what is she doing this game that makes you think scum?In post 565, Creeps20 wrote:I literally see no too little simularity.In post 563, MortFeld wrote:Oh I see. You said Misa is different this game than last game. Different how?
See for yourself
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=68656
Yeah but I know for a fact that drone did mention it.In post 729, Human Sequencer wrote:Oh post 306 nvm
Well considering that literally nobody else picked up on it either I'm not so sure if I can be blamed for missing that, and if you bought that up I would have rescinded that statement as well.
Well that means one of two things