Mini 1811 [Game Over]

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VOTE: iraonavp

I dont like those things either.

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Also FOS IAI for trying way to hard to justify an RVS vote.

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VOTE: iraonavp
Don't like voting the same person in RVS
Don't like the way he responded to pressure
Don't like how he casually mentioned his town-read on me

Youre both town.

Lets make a townbloc

Agree with this.

VOTE: JarJar

Serious/chainsaw vote

And this too.

unvote evilpacman
Vote jarjar

What are you agreeing with? That mafioso is serious about voting for me?

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Liking Triv as town. His reads have mirrored mine thus far.

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VOTE: iraonavp

I dont like those things either.

I am ok with this.

You approve of mindless sheeping?

On page 2? Like how much scummy stuff can there actually be? I thought the same thing about iraonavp that triv mentioned so I put my vote there. Should have I have made up a reason instead? Or not vote who I think the scummiest person is because someone else did first?

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VOTE: Iraonvp

I think I will always think you are scum in every game. Let's wagon this so I can get a read here please.

ALso agree that this hop on from murdercats looks shitty. But I'm not reading it as opportunistic. I think it's a bus.

I feel like this is a post designed to look like he wants to vote Ira, but he's subtlety hinting that Ira's town meta looks scummy.

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ironavp is town tho -_-

can we plz stop being so interested in him and find scum

Like jarjar

Why am I scum?

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Murdercats vote isn't really opportunistic though. It's just how he voted was slimy as F. He's basically calling it a policy vote but pretending it isn't.

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You are the dumbest fucking townie Ive met.

How can you have such a strong townread here?

Explain why Triv can't be scum but I can. Since your reasoning here:

Your vote, your reads, ect

should mean your scumreading Triv too since we've had the same "vote" and "reads" and "etc..."

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Murdercats vote isn't really opportunistic though. It's just how he voted was slimy as F. He's basically calling it a policy vote but pretending it isn't.

Then what the hell is your vote

Cause I'm also scumreading ira. I only have 1 vote.

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Murdercats vote isn't really opportunistic though. It's just how he voted was slimy as F. He's basically calling it a policy vote but pretending it isn't.

Then what the hell is your vote

Cause I'm also scumreading ira. I only have 1 vote.

I wish you didn't have a semi-grudge against listening to me because I was scum last game and voted you all game lol

I know you aren't doing it on purpose but its definitely happening

Huh? Not sure what ur talking about.

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It seems like I've developed that weird sense of partnership with jarjar that I really don't want because I don't quite completely townread jarjar again.

Too bad. We be pals yo.

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Everyone who is active besides jarjar is most likely town.

I doubt more than 1 mafia is participating.

Jrjar isnt scum with Triv so I have to pick one or the other.

Wait Wait Wait.

Are you implying that your townread on triv is an association case only? And if you weren't scumreading me then you'd be scumreading triv?

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UNVOTE:

I liked that post.

pedit: dammit I'M NOT SHEEPING

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VOTE: MURDERCAT

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There's no hinting involved. His town meta does look scummy. So does his scum meta. Hence why I want to get a read there. Come on JarJar.

So you want to get a read on someone that acts scummy as any alignment?

Aren't you just gonna read him as scummy?

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maybe listen to me this game?

I'll listen to you too i promise

read on MC?

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This is town fighting town at the moment

me too?

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This is town fighting town at the moment

me too?

Wait you think everyone posting is town?

note the question mark. I'm asking if mafiosa is including me in the town fighting town group.

Cause he's been calling me scum all game and now he seems to be implying that all the current actives are town.

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Jar is town wtf
No mafia member sits at his computer and writes a post like #46 and clicks submit. Mafia members love to try to look town and reasoned and back up all their reads with long chains of fake reasoning. Like if Jar was mafia he wouldn't blatantly sheep like that, he'd come up with his own story and then vote iraon

This is also basically why I think TM is town.

you realize you're basing a strong read on a 2nd page post right??

Accountant is scum

Still up for lynching Xkfyu as a joke
calls

Vote: Xkfyu

pls sheep

Pls stop.

you have no sense of humor

and you're voting town I think so why should I stop

@bacde, why call accountant out for his townread of me if ur townreading me too?

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Jar is town wtf
No mafia member sits at his computer and writes a post like #46 and clicks submit. Mafia members love to try to look town and reasoned and back up all their reads with long chains of fake reasoning. Like if Jar was mafia he wouldn't blatantly sheep like that, he'd come up with his own story and then vote iraon

This is also basically why I think TM is town.

you realize you're basing a strong read on a 2nd page post right??

Accountant is scum

Still up for lynching Xkfyu as a joke
calls

Vote: Xkfyu

pls sheep

Pls stop.

you have no sense of humor

and you're voting town I think so why should I stop

@bacde, why call accountant out for his townread of me if ur townreading me too?

Oh was he voting you? I didn't check which is why I put down "I think"

I'm not sure about your alignment tbh

so the who did u think he was voting for?

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This is such a scummy post:

Rn i don't think iraon is anything and I don't see much material for anyone else to have a read there. But I would also understand if people read him in either direction

- First off. If there's no material for anyone to have a read, then how can he understand if people read him in either direction?

- But the real scummy part is that he literally just gave reads on about 10 other people. If u look @ iraon's ISO, there's plenty there. @ least as much as all the other people that he no problem giving his opinion on.

Like how can he have opinions on so many people but have nothing to say about the player that's probably atracted more attention than anyone else so far.

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Check my game history. I never vote until I'm ready for the day to end.

Also this reads to me as "Please notice that I'm playing to my town meta."

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VOTE: evilpacman

Completely ignored my post in 245.

I'd like him to explain how he can have a read on EVERY player EXCEPT iraonavp.

Like that's not an exageration. Check this out:

Spoiler:

notes - Town Mafioso seems right about reads, especially JarJar
did IAI Jump on it too easily? I mean it's correct but the quickness to agree and vote? NOT SCUM TOGETHER
Bacde looks good, content on Trivium is good
JarJar might just be bad at game (93)
town mafioso scum? 103 and following exchange is weird. angry person maybe but getting mad at town incompetence is a petty attempt to look town.
murdercat votes seem like a misunderstanding. 56 shows that he's a victim of the misconception that voting creates pressure on people that then forces them to reveal their alliance a little more clearly. It's wrong and bad town play, and he could achieve a read by just posting more and reading more closely. But the main thing about 53 is that Murdercat is trying to get reads, and is probably town.
164 -Accountant, that's why i asked how new iraon is to this game. his tone seems stuffy and formal. but he might just write like that, and it could be misleading in trying to read authenticity of his posts. I haven't noticed anything wrong with his intent.
actually 195 (cut of jib post) is scummy. Trivium is scummy? I agree with Bacde that Trivium is scummy. Ok.
No votes on Trivium, interesting
oh Bacde is on Accountant right now. That's town/town imo.

this post seems super cluttered, sorry, they're personal notes that I don't have time to make into a proper post rn.
Looking at Trivium, maybe Jarjar, maybe Town Mafioso and possibly IAI as scum. Town reads on Bacde, Accountant, Murdercat.

Opinions on everyone except:

- JaeReed - town confirmed
- Tam - zero posts
- Xkfyu - zero posts @ that point
- iraonavp - Plenty of posts and has had interactions w/ a ton of players. ISO is filled w/ a bunch of content

Then when called out about it, he says:

Rn i don't think iraon is anything and I don't see much material for anyone else to have a read there.

Like how is there material for reads on Murdercat and IAI but not iraonavp ?

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Unless you think pacman is a noob who forgot to put their partner in a reads list.

It could be that. It can also be that he's perfectly happy w/ people scumreading iraonavp but wants to stay away from the wagon.

In either case I see scum motivation. I see no town motivation for ignoring one of the more prominent wagons while handing out reads on everyone else in the town like candy.

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I do recall. I'd say my play hasn't changed at all since I've been pretty damn successful playing the way I have.

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if you can't tell what the thread of my read on him is, I thought he was town earlier on, Accountant pointed out some stuff that I agreed could be a case for a scum read, but I felt like his tone obscures his intent, so I'm just waiting on deciding on that one. Idk why it's surprising to anyone that I think someone who writes kinda strange is the hardest to read in the game, but JarJar is way off the mark to say that he's the only person I've been ignoring.

Lol @ "Way off the mark". YOU were the one that said there wasn't much material for anyone to have a read there.

See now you're changing your story. Now what you're saying is you were townreading him earlier but you're not sure about that read because of Accountants case. That's a pretty far cry from basically saying: I have no read because he hasn't said anything.

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Agree w/ people about Xkfyu's entrance looking townie.

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I also noticed that about TM triv. His "then lynch me ok" attitude looks likes contrived bullshit. Here's another post where he does it:

If its a scumtell vote me.

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You said he was ignoring him. He proved to you that he has in fact not been ignoring him. You changed your argument to fit the narrative.

Walk me through this please?

C'mon. That's nitpicking my words.

Read 271 and you should be able to see my point.

"Ignore" wasn't a great word to use. "Refusing to give a read" is all I meant. And it's not like he's denying it. He said that the reason he refused to give a read is because there wasn't material on iraonavp.

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"You're right, this is my scum play" Strikes me as scummy. That's a defense. "Welp lynch me" Is the same thing. Defensive scum play. Also the quote change thing seems like he's caring too much about what he's saying and how he's saying it.

Nah it's coming off as frustration, which is closer to NAI than anything. If I had to put a lean on it I'd go town. I've seen quite a few town say stuff like that. Usually only once or twice though. The repeating of it is a little weird, I guess.

Normally I'd agree w/ this. But his in particular seem contrived as if he pretending to be frustrated.

Look @ each of those post and tell me if he really has something to be frustrated about:

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People aren't really even accussing him of being scum. He's just so quick to jump to "lynch me" when no one is saying to lynch him.

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See now you're changing your story. Now what you're saying is you were townreading him earlier but you're not sure about that read because of Accountants case. That's a pretty far cry from basically saying: I have no read because he hasn't said anything.

You know what else is scummy about this:

I feel like that's the exact opposite of how iraonavp should be being read. I think his early posts were pretty scummy but I liked his response to the pressure and am now leaning town.

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Trivium

- Town. His reads are good. He's scumhunting. His playstyle seems the same as the last game I played w/ him (where he was town).

Accountant

- Town. I dont agree w/ his ira read rn but his reasoning there is sound since I was also scumreading him earlier.

iraonavp

- leaning town. I liked how he responded to the pressure on him and I very much like the attack on MC.

Xkfyu

- null slightly leaning town. Not enough content for a good read so hopefully he starts posting more.

Tam

- null. Need more here. Can't put my finger on it but there's something about her posts I don't really like. Like she says exactly the right things.

Bacde

- null slightly scummy. He was scum in my previous game and I see some similarities in his play. But some of his posts seem like posts scum would never make. Hate his triv read.

I Am Innocent

- leaning scum for what I already said about him taking an RVS vote way too seriously. I don't see any towniness in his very few posts.

Town Mafioso

- scum. Already posted about how contrived his attitude looks. Also he kinda strikes me as being a good player but his reads have been shit IMO.

MURDERCAT

- scum. Totally hated his jump on ira. His reasoning was complete garbage. Also I agree w/ ira about his reaction to to bacde's phony dayvig looking fake.

evilpacman18

- scum. Reasons already stated about how I hated his read list leaving ira out and his defense for it was bad. Then he pretty much changed his whole story about it.

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only scum ... thinks Triv, Accountant, and Iraon are the townies players in the game right now.

who are the towniest players in the game right now?

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only scum ... thinks Triv, Accountant, and Iraon are the townies players in the game right now.

who are the towniest players in the game right now?

Lol I just read ur ISO and it looks like the only players u gave anything even resembling a townread on is Triv. You also have defended Accountant.

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Accountant, what was this referring to?

holy shit you're actually kinda right

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Also, MC:

Can you point out exactly what you think it is that I'm misrepresenting?

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That's a pretty far cry from basically saying: I have no read because he hasn't said anything.

That's not remotely close to anything I "basically said"

Rn i don't think iraon is anything and I don't see much material for anyone else to have a read there. But I would also understand if people read him in either direction

How is

"i don't think iraon is anything and I don't see much material for anyone else to have a read there."

much different than

"I have no read because he hasn't said anything"

?

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Who'd be ur top lynch if u had to choose today pac?

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It looks the same to me.

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See, I don't get this. If you think I look like scum, why do you think I'm town?

He's saying that bad town is similar to scum and you look like bad town.

Accountant called him out about why he decided your play was bad town instead of scum and we're waiting for him to get back to us.

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I also find it scummy that he called me out about listing you as a top townread if he's townreading u as well.

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non-alignment indicative

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I'd compromise on IAI. But not even close to being ready to compromise yet.

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I don't have many town-aligned reads yet.

Man I have too many. Even MC is looking better to me lately.

I dont like this wagon. I think scum might just be in the inactives.

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like an IAI/Town Mafioso scumteam seems pretty probable to me right now

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I would like everyone who hasn't posted recently (

JarJarDrinks

,

evilpacman18

,

Town Mafioso

,

Xkfyu

,

I Am Innocent

,

Tam

) to give a firm stance on whether iraonvp looks townier or scummier due to this interaction.

interaction is NAI. I'm still leaning town.

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mod

, prods for TM and IAI?

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I would like everyone who hasn't posted recently (

JarJarDrinks

,

evilpacman18

,

Town Mafioso

,

Xkfyu

,

I Am Innocent

,

Tam

) to give a firm stance on whether iraonvp looks townier or scummier due to this interaction.

interaction is NAI. I'm still leaning town.

NAI??? Are you serious? Explain?

I think his train of thought makes complete sense. He's saying he believes that you're giving me too much credit for what you're calling a "townslip".

And he's frustrated because people are jumping all over him for something he gave a clear answer for several times. I think any alignment would be frustrated there.

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Yeah that does look shitty bacde.

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I want Iraon dead because I think he's scummy. So of course I'm going to say how the IC agrees with me about that because I want Iraon dead. Anyways, I'm probably going to need a replacement because I'll be gone for two weeks starting sunday.

Any response to bacdes last post?

Why call him out about scumreading someone ur also scumreading?

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I'm here. Will be catching up throughout the day.

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Good luck town

LOL way to screw over whoever comes into this slot

are you subtly implying this is a scumtell and if so why

Was wondering this too. Please answer Pac.

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Too many pages to do a full read so just skimmed and will go back and ISO people.

Don't totally hate the Tam wagon but there's better ones.

Like

VOTE: Sonrio

12 posts and every single one is fluff. Dude definately needs to be pressured.

Plus was already scumreading TM for all his phoney "Lynch me" posts.

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I'm floating around page 30-31 area and idk if I think scum Trivium would be like "I found all the scum already"

I kinda agree w/ this. Totally clashes w/ his earlier attitude of "I have no idea what I'm doing".

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the few game-related posts he has so far show an incredibly genuine thought process

i have a fear of impoetic but ill read her correctly in time just because shes an easy read later on in the game. ive got my eye on you

off topic but how to make my signature show up on all my posts????????????????

also accountant is one of those blunt, mean and old players but also town so ill UNVOTE: Accountant

I don't see any thought @ all in these posts. They look like fluff just like the rest of his ISO.

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also jarjar has been consistently scummy

go on...

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I wanna lynch Sonrio but also cool w/ lynching pacman

Would compromise on Tam.

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People, reread the TM/Sonrio slot please. It's so Fn scum.

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VOTE: Tam

That is

L-1

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Could still be genuine and come from scum

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JUST IN CASE: UNVOTE: whoever the fck I'm voting, if anyone. I'm NOT willing to lynch Tam before she gets back, even if she is a scum lean.

very LAMIST post.

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I'd prefer to wait for a claim as well

Well yeah that's why I put her @ L-1 since that's usually the indicator for someone to claim.

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I'd like to hear people's thoughts (those who haven't given them yet) on the Tam lynch.

Since I didnt really post much reasoning:

She just seems to go w/ the flow and repeat town sentiment. I don't feel like there's any conviction behind her reads.

Not my top scumread but doesn't look like I'll get any of them lynched today.

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Not to mention the fact that I just have don't have enough solid scum reads, which is disconcerting.

Means u should lynch an inactive...like Sonrio

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I thought jarjardrinks was voting to put pressure on me now its a scumread?

No it's always been a scumread. I just said that you need to be pressured.

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Also TAM was never at L-1 he was at L-2

Tam (4): Bacde, JaeReed, MURDERCAT, Impoetic

After this count, Xy and I both voted and I didn't see any unvotes.

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Idk ill probably end up on the tam lynch but i dont like jar

what don't u like?

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I dont like ur push on me because u havent pointed out anything TM posted before to make you fos him

Did you even read my posts? Several posts of mine where I FOS TM:

Spoiler:

You are the dumbest fucking townie Ive met.

How can you have such a strong townread here?

Explain why Triv can't be scum but I can. Since your reasoning here:

Your vote, your reads, ect

should mean your scumreading Triv too since we've had the same "vote" and "reads" and "etc..."

Everyone who is active besides jarjar is most likely town.

I doubt more than 1 mafia is participating.

Jrjar isnt scum with Triv so I have to pick one or the other.

Wait Wait Wait.

Are you implying that your townread on triv is an association case only? And if you weren't scumreading me then you'd be scumreading triv?

This is town fighting town at the moment

me too?

Wait you think everyone posting is town?

note the question mark. I'm asking if mafiosa is including me in the town fighting town group.

Cause he's been calling me scum all game and now he seems to be implying that all the current actives are town.

I also noticed that about TM triv. His "then lynch me ok" attitude looks likes contrived bullshit. Here's another post where he does it:

If its a scumtell vote me.

"You're right, this is my scum play" Strikes me as scummy. That's a defense. "Welp lynch me" Is the same thing. Defensive scum play. Also the quote change thing seems like he's caring too much about what he's saying and how he's saying it.

Nah it's coming off as frustration, which is closer to NAI than anything. If I had to put a lean on it I'd go town. I've seen quite a few town say stuff like that. Usually only once or twice though. The repeating of it is a little weird, I guess.

Normally I'd agree w/ this. But his in particular seem contrived as if he pretending to be frustrated.

Look @ each of those post and tell me if he really has something to be frustrated about:

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236

People aren't really even accussing him of being scum. He's just so quick to jump to "lynch me" when no one is saying to lynch him.

Town Mafioso

- scum. Already posted about how contrived his attitude looks. Also he kinda strikes me as being a good player but his reads have been shit IMO.

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He is deliberately trying to stop lynching Tam not because he is afraid Tam will flip town-aligned, but because he wants to make others on the wagon look bad. You can see that is the focus of his posts.

How does that make sense? Wouldn't he WANT the lynch to go through to make those people look bad? Why would he be deliberately trying to stop it?

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I'd like Tam to claim

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Pax/xy/tam my original list is looking p. Good

Would lynch pac and tam. do not want xy lynch AT ALL.

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Still want Sonrio the most.

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Like can anyone tell me who Sonrio wants to lynch?

He hasn't said ANYTHING so far this game.

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out of pac/xyk I'd rather lynch pac, so can we at least switch to that

x2

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VOTE: evilpackman18

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Good luck town

LOL way to screw over whoever comes into this slot

are you subtly implying this is a scumtell and if so why

Was wondering this too. Please answer Pac.

would like to point out that pac keeps ignoring this.

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id sway either way tho id like input on why hes a good lynch when hes made like 3 posts

Who do you think is a good lynch?

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Tam. She's had the most votes for quite some time now and she doesn't seem to be trying to get them off.

So you think scum is more likely to not fight their lynch?

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id sway either way tho id like input on why hes a good lynch when hes made like 3 posts

He has like twice as many posts as Tam who you just said would make a good lynch.

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You sit there talking about how much time we have before deadline and yet, you aren't doing anything whatsoever to make use of that time. You aren't voting, you aren't really talking about your reads.

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tam for reasons explained

Can you point to where you posted those reasons?

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So can u answer this please?

Tam. She's had the most votes for quite some time now and she doesn't seem to be trying to get them off.

So you think scum is more likely to not fight their lynch?

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And respond to this:

id sway either way tho id like input on why hes a good lynch when hes made like 3 posts

He has like twice as many posts as Tam who you just said would make a good lynch.

Why do you need input on pac, who has more posts than Tam when you apparently have enough information on Tam to want to lynch her?

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are you guys even trying to grill me or is this a game of repitition

The repetition is cause ur not responding.

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The pacman wagon feels more quick and less thought out than the Tam wagon tbh

no way. it's a good wagon

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It took a lot less than what I've been doing which is basically begging people to get onto your wagon.

The difference is that a lot of people are town reading me pretty hard, while no one has a strong town read on pacman.

This.

@MC, u said that the Tam wagon didn't feel like a day 1 scum wagon and I'm inclined to agree. The pac wagon has the right feels.

There's way too many people throwing Pac into their scumreads pile w/o much of a wagon forming.

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Also agree w/ XK that ira and Tam need to move their votes off of people that are definitely not getting lynched today.

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SORRY I AM AT A PLACE WITH NO INTERNET FOR DAYS
I'll do some phone reading

If you do nothing else, answer this:

Good luck town

LOL way to screw over whoever comes into this slot

are you subtly implying this is a scumtell and if so why

Was wondering this too. Please answer Pac.

would like to point out that pac keeps ignoring this.

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Why wouldn't u look @ who you replaced?

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The first thing I thought of in this line of thought was that it made evil and my slot look like a team

Yup. That's what it looks like.

If pac flips red then ur probably next. And it sucks for you since it was through no fault of ur own.

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Not Voting (2):

Sonrio, evilpacman18

This is where we should be lynching from today.

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3.5 days left of this phase w/ no end in sight.

I think Jaereed should just nominate 2 candidates and everyone picks their horse today.

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I'm really not sure who I want to vote yet. There are a few in the running ATM.

such as...?

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Leaning town on everyone in this list now:
- Bacde
- Accnt
- MC
- Ira
- XK
- Sonia

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which means scum is in this list:
- IMpoetic
- Tam
- Sonrio
- Pac

These are the only people I'd like to lynch today.

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XK is so obvtown

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I'd almost have JJD in there for buddying the IC tbh

Well if u choose XK and the triv slot then I'm gonna renege cause I refuse to lynch either.

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repeating this:

There's way too many people throwing Pac into their scumreads pile w/o much of a wagon forming.

this is what a scum wagon feels like.

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MC is so obvtown

I wouldn't say he's obvtown but I do think he's town, just w/ a bad read.

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but yeah my vote is married to murder's so trying to convince me is useless. murder is the double voter.

Well NOBODY wants to lynch XK so MC needs to pick someone else.

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@Impoetic, can u give a quick list of ur scumreads?

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townreads too if u feel like it

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discussing it in the scum thread?

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3.5 days left of this phase w/ no end in sight.

I think Jaereed should just nominate 2 candidates and everyone picks their horse today.

Tam is the lynch for today its pretty clear

Not clear at all. If I can't get Pac or Sonrio then I'll join U.

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Meh, maybe bacde. Pac is bestest.

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Meh, maybe bacde. Pac is bestest.

I hope this doesn't refer to a bacde lynch as opposed to bacde's suggestion for the lynch

I was responding to Bacde's pooh-poohing of a sonria lynch. I townread bacde.

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I guess I'm basically waiting for MC to show and decide if he wants to support the pac lynch cause there's no way that lynch happens w/o his (and jareeds) backing.

If he continues to push XK then I'll vote Tam.

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OMG Pac. Please answer this:

SORRY I AM AT A PLACE WITH NO INTERNET FOR DAYS
I'll do some phone reading

If you do nothing else, answer this already:

Good luck town

LOL way to screw over whoever comes into this slot

are you subtly implying this is a scumtell and if so why

Was wondering this too. Please answer Pac.

would like to point out that pac keeps ignoring this.

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also can you explain why it is that u scumread Tam?

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Yet you never mention the slot again.

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I have barely mentioned anything since then, I'm busy.

You've talked about several other reads since then.

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OMG YOU CALLED THAT SLOT ONE OF UR BIGGEST TOWNREADS.

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Tam (4):

Bacde, JaeReed, MURDERCAT, Impoetic

also can't really resist a wagon of 4 of my strongest townreads

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Is that Impoetic now? She came in and sold me with her first post, I quoted it

Mafia would TOTALLY know who their partners were replaced by, yo. I know my sonia townslip didn't work but this one's legit.

Not useful to me, personally -- except you're not convincing anyone we're a team if packers flips mafia -- but the townslip's still legit.

so do u think that makes Pac town?

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Unofficial votecount:

Tam (5):

Bacde, Accountant, Impoetic, Xkfyu, evilpacman18

Xkfyu (1):

xSoniaNevermindx

evilpackman (3):

JarJarDrinks, MURDERCAT, JaeReed

Accountant (1):

iraonavp

Not Voting (2):

Sonrio, Tam

[JarJarDrinks]

- Sonia
- Ira
- Sonrio
- Tam

You all need to choose between Tam and Pac ASAP.

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I'll switch back to pacman if needed.

I'll do the same for Tam.

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Tam, claim now.

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Damn scum really selling theirself out with this last minute counterwagon on me.

Who specifically are you referring to?

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Lynch the scumlord

If she was PR she woulda claimed earlier

I'll hammer if Tam doesn't show up shortly and claim.

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Damn scum really selling theirself out with this last minute counterwagon on me.

Who specifically are you referring to?

Probably murdercat and either you or ira

so everyone on ur wagon except the IC?

That's some good analysis right there.

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Ngl I stayed up all night and was very busy so i'm still on page 40 and i'm pretty sure this is going to be town over evil pac but this isn't the worst lynch in the world.

If Tam flips red I'm treating this as a scum claim.

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Like why wouldn't you vote for Pac over Tam if you're pretty sure Tam is town and Pac is scum?

Those last 2 posts of Sonia might as well say "Quick someone tell me to vote Pac so I don't have to hammer my partner"

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that's L-1

Pac claim

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I read that as a scum claim also. Was absolutely the right call for the vig to shoot her. Like everyone just said how we need to wait for pac to claim.

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I'm alive. Oops. That's not what I wanted.

Maybe scum is leaving u alive cause ur reads are shit.

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Could do Tam too

...

Tam lynch is straight garbage

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Just cause I'm feeling lazy and don't feel like arguing against the IC and his self-appointed conftown:

claim gunsmith

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Targeted impoetic and she has no gun.

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Except a Scum Doctor

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agree w XKs analysis

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That said xk is pinging me hardcore rn "vig should claim so I can figure out if i want to kill them or roleblock them and kill jjd" pings.

No way in heck XK is scum.

These are towntells that are pinging you



And not gonna say MC is obvscum or anything but u need to accept the fact that he could be scum just cause of PoE. He's certainly more likely that XK.

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We're lynching Tam no matter what she claims. End of.

No we're sure as shit gonna wait for the claim and then analyze accordingly.

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We aren't lynching anyone until we either get that vig claim, or both Sonrio and Tam have checked in and confirmed that they are somehow not the vig.

It was like pulling teeth to get you guys to lynch in D1, when we severely needed a flip, and now, when we actually NEED to wait for more information, you guys want to speed lynch.

^ 3rd scum.

^ delusional

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Accountant, Murder, Impo are my townbloc.

JJD claim is pretty town.

Tam obvious mafia at this point.
I'd wager Sonrio is mafia too.
Last scum in Xk/Iraon.

Follow this when I die, even if I'm wrong on one. The whole scumteam is in {Tam, Sonio, Xk, Iraon} do not bother to lynch outside of this.

Take a look at this.

Sonrio votes Tam here:

okay goodbye VOTE: Tam i suggest you claim before sonia hammers

and here is the vote count at the time:

Votecount 1.27

Tam (5):

Bacde, Accountant, Impoetic, Xkfyu, evilpacman18

evilpacman18 (4):

JarJarDrinks, MURDERCAT, JaeReed, iraonavp

Not Voting (3):

Sonrio, Tam, xSoniaNevermindx

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline:

(expired on 2016-07-18 18:00:00)

If Tam and Sonrio are buddies, then I gotta think that Sonrio votes for pacman here, instead of Tam.

I don't think they are both scum.

Well sonrio painted herself in a corner w/ this post:

i was reading earlier and forgot to post but i townread pacman and tam still posted nothing that screams town to me so.....im going to vote her, but id like her to claim.

She didn't really leave herself the option of voting Pac.

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Honestly anyone who isn't following what Accountant is following is scum.

We lynch Tam and only Tam today.

If Tam shows up and claims vig and there's no counter, we still lynch Tam?

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Actually, just checked Tams profile page

Says she visited the site yesterday. Makes me think she's posting in the scum forums.


TAM. Show up soon or get lynched.

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So either Tam is the vig, or the extra kill came from some sort of scum.

You guys on the Tam wagon betting on the latter?

It's possible that there's a real vig that is keeping quiet. I'd actually put that as more likely than scum making that kill.

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I don't see how it can hurt to wait a day

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24 hours

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VOTE: Genji

Claim!

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lol

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vote Sonrio

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vote Sonrio

Excuse me?

Well we're not lynching an uncountered vig claim obviously. What exactly is ur problem w/ my vote?

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Is that an actual role?


Jaereed, u realize how dumb you're gonna look if this is a play and make us lynch the town vig right?

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JarJar can you explain why Sonrio? I have that slot as null.

Here's where I tell Sonrio about why I'm scumreading his slot:

I dont like ur push on me because u havent pointed out anything TM posted before to make you fos him

Did you even read my posts? Several posts of mine where I FOS TM:

Spoiler:

You are the dumbest fucking townie Ive met.

How can you have such a strong townread here?

Explain why Triv can't be scum but I can. Since your reasoning here:

Your vote, your reads, ect

should mean your scumreading Triv too since we've had the same "vote" and "reads" and "etc..."

Everyone who is active besides jarjar is most likely town.

I doubt more than 1 mafia is participating.

Jrjar isnt scum with Triv so I have to pick one or the other.

Wait Wait Wait.

Are you implying that your townread on triv is an association case only? And if you weren't scumreading me then you'd be scumreading triv?

This is town fighting town at the moment

me too?

Wait you think everyone posting is town?

note the question mark. I'm asking if mafiosa is including me in the town fighting town group.

Cause he's been calling me scum all game and now he seems to be implying that all the current actives are town.

I also noticed that about TM triv. His "then lynch me ok" attitude looks likes contrived bullshit. Here's another post where he does it:

If its a scumtell vote me.

"You're right, this is my scum play" Strikes me as scummy. That's a defense. "Welp lynch me" Is the same thing. Defensive scum play. Also the quote change thing seems like he's caring too much about what he's saying and how he's saying it.

Nah it's coming off as frustration, which is closer to NAI than anything. If I had to put a lean on it I'd go town. I've seen quite a few town say stuff like that. Usually only once or twice though. The repeating of it is a little weird, I guess.

Normally I'd agree w/ this. But his in particular seem contrived as if he pretending to be frustrated.

Look @ each of those post and tell me if he really has something to be frustrated about:

68
236

People aren't really even accussing him of being scum. He's just so quick to jump to "lynch me" when no one is saying to lynch him.

Town Mafioso

- scum. Already posted about how contrived his attitude looks. Also he kinda strikes me as being a good player but his reads have been shit IMO.

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VOTE: Genji

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she was begging to be shot and that screams bp scum or doc protected scum

I would say that this makes the chance of scum having a doctor very strong since I assume that a gunsmith in the game would mean that there'd be some type of role that gives me a reverse result. Obviously I'd never check the IC.

Which means impoetic isn't quite as confirmed by my check.

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I am not lying about my role. I shot Sonia last night. If you want proof read through everything I have said today and understand that Accountant picked up on it.

My role is innocent child vigilante. I explain why I shot Sonia and pretty sure I explained why not Tam (she was begging to be shot and that screams bp scum or doc protected scum).

You are not vigilante. Stop this is going to turn ugly if you pursue this.

Man this so convincing. Jaereed, u SWEAR ur not shitting away the game for us?

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@iraonavp

Who would be your first choice between MC and accountant?

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Genji's claim has been hard CCed by confirmed town and he was heavily scumread by the person who died last night.

Why. Is. He. Not. Dead?

My vote is on him.

I just want to make extra sure jaereed isn't faking cause he thinks he has a good read. I've seen plenty of mafia egos ruin games cause of shit like that.

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I assume I'm gonna die cause scum wont want me either catching or townconfirming someone tonight and I'm assuming a mafia doc.

Top townreads are XKY and accountant.

Top scumreads are sonrio and murdercat

pedit

is that real?

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So jaereed is confirmed faking?

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I assume I'm gonna die cause scum wont want me either catching or townconfirming someone tonight and I'm assuming a mafia doc.

Top townreads are XKY and accountant.

Top scumreads are sonrio and murdercat

pedit

is that real?

Why is murdercat a scumread?

I had a monstrously strong townread on him day 1

well I posted that when I thought Tam/Genki was scum and nobody tried to keep Tam out of the noose more than MC.

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well I posted that when I thought Tam/Genki was scum and nobody tried to keep Tam out of the noose more than MC.

And honestly If Genji is town I'm still putting MC on the scumlist pretty much by PoE

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sonrio/murdercat/ira is a scum team I might like.

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K mod confirmed it's a role that could exist.

VOTE: genji

seriously thoughj jareed, if ur lying...