Mini Normal 1809: Game Over

Wake1 · Post Post #5 (isolation #0) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 3:02 pm

I'm actually Masons with Vedith and Masquerade.

Completely serious. Completely.

Wake1 · Post Post #7 (isolation #1) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 3:31 pm

I hate that caped bastard after what he did to Killer Croc.

Wake1 · Post Post #8 (isolation #2) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 3:40 pm

VOTE: Grendel

Unsure I trust man-eating monsters.

Wake1 · Post Post #253 (isolation #3) » Fri Jul 01, 2016 4:28 pm

UNVOTE: Grendel

Wake1 · Post Post #254 (isolation #4) » Fri Jul 01, 2016 4:38 pm

Grendel, I've read up to page 11. My thoughts on the current game state is that there's very little to go on currently.

Wake1 · Post Post #255 (isolation #5) » Fri Jul 01, 2016 4:39 pm

House, how much experience do you have with Egg?

Wake1 · Post Post #257 (isolation #6) » Fri Jul 01, 2016 4:51 pm

Elyse, I'm torn on 197. I agree with Vedith asking you why you would back off your Scumread, because I think if you suspect someone you should give voice at every opportunity. His latter two questions felt slightly underhanded. Initially I wanted to back Vedith against you over your Scumread of him in response to his 183. But, when reading his two latter questions they do feel Scummy to me.

Vedith, would you please provide feedback?

Wake1 · Post Post #258 (isolation #7) » Fri Jul 01, 2016 4:53 pm

In post 256, Egg wrote:Hmm. So no reads yet?

With respect Egg, I play at my own pace. I would ask you to respect that please. Also, I no longer do Reads Lists. This applies to all current and future games.

Wake1 · Post Post #260 (isolation #8) » Fri Jul 01, 2016 5:13 pm

While you're here Egg, would you please explain how I seemed excited (I wasn't), and how that translates to a Scumread?

Wake1 · Post Post #262 (isolation #9) » Fri Jul 01, 2016 5:18 pm

In post 261, Egg wrote:Ehh, it was probably just that three posts in a four post block were yours right at the start of the game and then the smilie and the way I read your tone.

I'm honestly curious, and would really like you to go on on this please.

Wake1 · Post Post #276 (isolation #10) » Sat Jul 02, 2016 6:06 am

I don't really think it's a matter of 'no one feels that way.' Personally I'm curious myself, and am open to listening to you, and considering your thoughts. The moral of the story I feel is that maybe it's not a good idea to assume no one feels this way or that, because they might feel the other way.

And, frankly, I really don't like Vedith's two latter questions he asked you. The way he asked them felt like they were loaded.

Wake1 · Post Post #373 (isolation #11) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 5:40 am

Regarding games I bit off a bit more than I can chew, so please be patient with me. Reading over things again.

Wake1 · Post Post #376 (isolation #12) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 5:59 am

In post 351, Robbnva wrote:Why isn't he real
I
stic?

What is that and why?

Wake1 · Post Post #378 (isolation #13) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 6:36 am

In post 377, House wrote:
In post 376, Wake1 wrote:
In post 351, Robbnva wrote:Why isn't he real
I
stic?

What is that and why?
That is Rob asking why I'm not a realistic lynch.

Don't be coy with me House.

You know what my real question is pertaining to.

Wake1 · Post Post #380 (isolation #14) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 6:47 am

In post 379, Robbnva wrote:
In post 376, Wake1 wrote:
In post 351, Robbnva wrote:Why isn't he real
I
stic?

What is that and why?
1) Ask my iPhone why it decided to capitalize it. I have no clue.

2) Why aren't you voting molla yet? Time is ticking

1)

2) Convince me.

Wake1 · Post Post #388 (isolation #15) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 7:13 am

In post 384, Robbnva wrote: Ok but I've already explained why he's scum and if you don't lynch him in going to fuck this game up

It's only Day 1, and I only consider people's actions.

What will fuck this game up is rushing other players with sloppy declarations.

Wake1 · Post Post #396 (isolation #16) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 11:37 am

Well, I guess we're lynching Molla. No discussion needed. Sorry Molla.

Wake1 · Post Post #398 (isolation #17) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 11:43 am

In post 397, House wrote:
In post 396, Wake1 wrote:Well, I guess we're lynching Molla. No discussion needed. Sorry Molla.
Can you give actual reasons?

---> Sarcasm

---> Your head.

Wake1 · Post Post #401 (isolation #18) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 12:00 pm

So Robb why should we vote Molla?

I hate reckless declarations Day 1 because they're generally dead wrong.

What I am willing to do is at least hear why you feel he should be lynched today.

Wake1 · Post Post #403 (isolation #19) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 12:14 pm

You can chip in House.

Wake1 · Post Post #406 (isolation #20) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 12:23 pm

We can take beligerence off the table because

you've

been belligerent as well thus far.

Since you want our votes, could you at least list the post numbers for us to look at?

Wake1 · Post Post #407 (isolation #21) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 12:25 pm

In post 405, House wrote:
In post 403, Wake1 wrote:You can chip in House.
Are you asking me to hold your hand while you wade through the shitfest that is Robb's ISO?

No single Mafia player intimidates me anymore. I just want answers.

Wake1 · Post Post #414 (isolation #22) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 1:31 pm

In post 412, BBmolla wrote:Wake you should vote Vedith

I hear you. Why?

Wake1 · Post Post #420 (isolation #23) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 1:40 pm

VOTE: Vedith

Wake1 · Post Post #457 (isolation #24) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 3:41 am

In post 453, Robbnva wrote:If molla isn't lynched by the time my counter hits zero town is going to regret it. I'm not fucking joking.

Although we

could

policy lynch you to save Town the trouble.

Wake1 · Post Post #460 (isolation #25) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 3:46 am

In post 449, Robbnva wrote:Egg is the other person I'm suspicious of

This

I am open to hearing.

Wake1 · Post Post #479 (isolation #26) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 4:09 am

In post 472, House wrote: Molla isn't being lynched today

You don't know that

the Day's still young

.

Are you saying, right now, that you will not consider voting for or lynching Molla today?

Wake1 · Post Post #486 (isolation #27) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 4:19 am

In post 482, House wrote:
In post 479, Wake1 wrote:
In post 472, House wrote: Molla isn't being lynched today
You don't know that
the Day's still young
.

Are you saying, right now, that you will not consider voting for or lynching Molla today?
Not with Rob's bullshit going on. I don't care if Molla straight up named the entire scum team. I'm not rewarding terrorist behavior.

Take Robb out of the equation. That doesn't matter.

What matters to me is whether or not you—on your own—are willing to consider voting for or lynching BBmolla Day 1.

Wake1 · Post Post #488 (isolation #28) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 4:21 am

In post 484, Robbnva wrote:
In post 65, BBmolla wrote:Let's just mass claim now

Me and House are Masons

Popcorn House

In post 71, BBmolla wrote:I disagree I think scum is more likely to suggest a mass claim d1
^ scum

Basically admits it if you think about it.

Think for a moment Robb.

You don't think molla was being sarcastic in 65?

Wake1 · Post Post #489 (isolation #29) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 4:22 am

In post 487, House wrote:
In post 486, Wake1 wrote:
In post 482, House wrote:
In post 479, Wake1 wrote:
In post 472, House wrote: Molla isn't being lynched today
You don't know that
the Day's still young
.

Are you saying, right now, that you will not consider voting for or lynching Molla today?
Not with Rob's bullshit going on. I don't care if Molla straight up named the entire scum team. I'm not rewarding terrorist behavior.
Take Robb out of the equation. That doesn't matter.

What matters to me is whether or not you—on your own—are willing to consider voting for or lynching BBmolla Day 1.
Once Rob is taken out of the equation, I'll take him out of the equation.

Can you answer me House?

Are you or are you not willing to consider voting for or lynching BBmolla Day 1?

Wake1 · Post Post #493 (isolation #30) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 4:27 am

In post 490, Robbnva wrote:Since sarcasm isn't clear on the Internet I can't possibly know. Usually sarcasm included an emoji or something

Not always, and for someone who has been here since 2010 you should know better than to frequently take declarations before page 4 seriously.

Wake1 · Post Post #494 (isolation #31) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 4:28 am

In post 491, House wrote:
In post 489, Wake1 wrote:
In post 487, House wrote:
In post 486, Wake1 wrote:
In post 482, House wrote:
In post 479, Wake1 wrote:
In post 472, House wrote: Molla isn't being lynched today
You don't know that
the Day's still young
.

Are you saying, right now, that you will not consider voting for or lynching Molla today?
Not with Rob's bullshit going on. I don't care if Molla straight up named the entire scum team. I'm not rewarding terrorist behavior.
Take Robb out of the equation. That doesn't matter.

What matters to me is whether or not you—on your own—are willing to consider voting for or lynching BBmolla Day 1.
Once Rob is taken out of the equation, I'll take him out of the equation.
Can you answer me House?

Are you or are you not willing to consider voting for or lynching BBmolla Day 1?
I've already answered you. You know damned well you've already received my answer and you're still posturing like you expect something more.

I absolutely refuse to entertain the notion at any level under terrorist threats. Period.

Are you or are you not willing to consider voting for or lynching BBmolla Day 1?

Yes

or

No

?

Wake1 · Post Post #497 (isolation #32) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 4:32 am

In post 496, House wrote:
In post 494, Wake1 wrote:
In post 491, House wrote:
In post 489, Wake1 wrote:
In post 487, House wrote:
In post 486, Wake1 wrote:
In post 482, House wrote:
In post 479, Wake1 wrote:
In post 472, House wrote: Molla isn't being lynched today
You don't know that
the Day's still young
.

Are you saying, right now, that you will not consider voting for or lynching Molla today?
Not with Rob's bullshit going on. I don't care if Molla straight up named the entire scum team. I'm not rewarding terrorist behavior.
Take Robb out of the equation. That doesn't matter.

What matters to me is whether or not you—on your own—are willing to consider voting for or lynching BBmolla Day 1.
Once Rob is taken out of the equation, I'll take him out of the equation.
Can you answer me House?

Are you or are you not willing to consider voting for or lynching BBmolla Day 1?
I've already answered you. You know damned well you've already received my answer and you're still posturing like you expect something more.

I absolutely refuse to entertain the notion at any level under terrorist threats. Period.
Are you or are you not willing to consider voting for or lynching BBmolla Day 1?

Yes
or
No
?
At this point I'll lynch you over nearly anyone else because you know damned well I'm not budging one inch after being threatened until that that has been removed.

I don't think I threatened you House.

Yes

or N

o

.

I have a very good reason for asking this type of question but I can't explain it atm b/c of valid reasons.

Wake1 · Post Post #501 (isolation #33) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 4:46 am

In post 498, House wrote: I didn't say you did.

I refuse to give Robb one inch of satisfaction after he turned into a cyber terrorist, holding the entire game at ransom for over his demands.

He can take a flying formication and I refuse to entertain the notion of anything related to what he wants on any level. Period. End of story.

All when he is no longer in this game, and you will get an answer. But not bloody well until.

...

So you refuse to independently consider voting for or lynching BBmolla Day 1.

See, this can be taken multiple ways.

If you're Scum you're getting as much use out of Robb's behavior as possible.

An implication is that you will be held accountable if BBmolla flips Scum, because you refused even the consideration of him being Scum Day 1. Scum has every reason to make sure their teammates survive, and what you're doing, if you're Town, is bending over backwards to protect BBmolla. Someone who, as you should know if you're Town, is also a random, and you can't know his or her alignment. You not even willing to pressure him tells me that you may know something about his alignment.

Wake1 · Post Post #510 (isolation #34) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 5:06 am

In post 502, Robbnva wrote:
In post 501, Wake1 wrote:If you're Scum you're getting as much use out of Robb's behavior as possible.
This

wake the issue is Mafia doesn't want to lose molla this early so they are banking on me going crazy.

We need the townies to start thinking rationally here. Not lynching molla hurts town. Lynching molla hurts scum (best case) and hurts nobody but me (worst case)

Let's be clear: I don't assume you're Town.

If you're Town your anti-Town behavior hurts Towns. It pisses people off. It gives Scum an excuse to over-react: a possible example may be House's posts, if he's Scum.

Your timer demand is

void

. Assuming you're Town, minus the Scum you're pissing off Town. They're going to want to break your neck simply because they're

pissed off with you being a stupid little snot

annoyed. I'm receptive to hearing you, but don't you ever make demands of me and think I won't go for your soft jugular this game.

In post 503, House wrote:
In post 501, Wake1 wrote:You not even willing to pressure him tells me that you may know something about his alignment.
False.

Me not willing to pressure him indicates that I refuse to cave to retrofits demands. PERIOD.

No amount of you twisting my words will ever change that.

It's not about Robb. If you're Town stop giving him so much power. I'm Town, and I look at it and laugh. You're smart. I know you a bit. I introduced you to Mafia, House. You should be cocky and laugh at him being stupid. Because it's stupid, and because he doesn't have any power over you, me, or anyone else.

I don't pay his threats any mind.

What I want to know is what you think of BBmolla. I want to know that you're not Scum using Robb as an excuse not to question/push/vote/lynch molla. If you're Town you can't really know if BBmolla's Town unless you're both Masons (don't answer). Because of that Fog of War I need to know that you're in the dark just as much as I am, and that like me you absolutely refuse to take anyone off the table Day 1, because we have zero information, and we don't have any flips and interactions to analyze. I want to know if you're willing to question molla regardless of what Robb thinks or does. I never allow some other player's words or actions dictate who I can or can't suspect, pressure, or support.

I also know you're a great guy to play with and smart as hell. I like that. Please don't take what I say in this game personally House.

Wake1 · Post Post #512 (isolation #35) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 5:09 am

Actually,

I'm

a PR.

Bomb

.

Wake1 · Post Post #516 (isolation #36) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 5:14 am

Robb, House, question time.

At the moment which 3 players are you willing to lynch?

Please answer, because it matters, especially later in the game.

Wake1 · Post Post #517 (isolation #37) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 5:16 am

Robb's anti-Town behavior

does not

mean he can't raise good points or observations.

This matters if he is Town.

Wake1 · Post Post #521 (isolation #38) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 5:19 am

Which one is Zamboni?

Wake1 · Post Post #523 (isolation #39) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 5:21 am

In post 520, Robbnva wrote:
In post 516, Wake1 wrote:
Robb, House, question time.

At the moment which 3 players are you willing to lynch?

Please answer, because it matters, especially later in the game.
Hoopla, house, and idk about the 3rd. Maybe masq?

Question for everyone. Assume I stop my counter and just "play the game"

How in the hell can I just sit by watching scum get off Scott free and basically ignored for the rest of the game?

I think of you retract your timer-demand it'll help you in this game.

You're allowed to ask questions. You're allowed to ask many questions.

Wake1 · Post Post #525 (isolation #40) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 5:22 am

In post 519, House wrote: You excusing his blatant violation of site rules is also noted, Wake.

?

Wake1 · Post Post #530 (isolation #41) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 5:23 am

House, if Robb retracts the demand will you put BBmolla back on the table where he belongs Day 1?

Wake1 · Post Post #534 (isolation #42) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 5:26 am

In post 532, Robbnva wrote:
In post 523, Wake1 wrote:
In post 520, Robbnva wrote:
In post 516, Wake1 wrote:
Robb, House, question time.

At the moment which 3 players are you willing to lynch?

Please answer, because it matters, especially later in the game.
Hoopla, house, and idk about the 3rd. Maybe masq?

Question for everyone. Assume I stop my counter and just "play the game"

How in the hell can I just sit by watching scum get off Scott free and basically ignored for the rest of the game?
I think of you retract your timer-demand it'll help you in this game.

You're allowed to ask questions. You're allowed to ask many questions.
Sure I can ask questions but nobody would answer them cause they would all be surrounding molla or asking why he wasn't lynched yet.

Like I advised Elyse (is she still in this game?), don't make assumptions.

Stop making assumptions.

Wake1 · Post Post #536 (isolation #43) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 5:28 am

In post 533, House wrote:
In post 530, Wake1 wrote:House, if Robb retracts the demand will you put BBmolla back on the table where he belongs Day 1?
The second he's modkilled, absolutely.

I'm NOT giving him a pass after everything he's done to destroy this game.

I'll take it to mith if I have to.

...

...

...

He hasn't destroyed anything. He's only been mildly annoying at times. That's it. He hasn't destroyed anything.

I feel like you're over-reacting, but I can't tell if it's from a Town or Scum mindset.

Wake1 · Post Post #538 (isolation #44) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 5:30 am

Dierfire, could you intervene? I feel this 'issue' requires preemptive mod intervention.

Wake1 · Post Post #539 (isolation #45) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 5:31 am

In post 537, Robbnva wrote:Assumptions about what?

Assuming nobody would answer your questions, and that they would all be surrounding BBmolla.

He's as random as everyone else and only a fool would think otherwise.

Wake1 · Post Post #543 (isolation #46) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 5:37 am

In post 533, House wrote:The second Robb's modkilled I'm willing to put BBmolla back on the table.

In post 540, Robbnva wrote: until BBmolla's lynched I'm not focusing on anyone else.

Wake1 · Post Post #562 (isolation #47) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 2:07 pm

UNVOTE: Vedith

Wake1 · Post Post #570 (isolation #48) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 3:02 pm

This isn't helping Town guys.

Wake1 · Post Post #697 (isolation #49) » Wed Jul 06, 2016 5:01 pm

In post 695, House wrote: The best way to get at the truth when it is being withheld is to accuse the silent of an untruth, which often loosens their tongue to clarify, this fulfilling the purpose of the lure.

Hey, I should try that out sometime.

Wake1 · Post Post #701 (isolation #50) » Wed Jul 06, 2016 5:07 pm

...

Hm...

Oh shit.

...

Wake1 · Post Post #706 (isolation #51) » Wed Jul 06, 2016 5:54 pm

In post 704, Elyse wrote:
I just hate using stupid things like this to scumhunt
anyway when we have three excellent options in BB, BlankFace, and Vedith

I know I know but you just said that after using it come on now.

Wake1 · Post Post #707 (isolation #52) » Wed Jul 06, 2016 5:55 pm

If House and Robb are Town I really need you guys to drop it please.

Wake1 · Post Post #708 (isolation #53) » Wed Jul 06, 2016 5:56 pm

In post 675, Vedith wrote: Also, please state where I ever say Elyse is a scum read?

Where do you stand on her again?

And I don't mean literally.

Wake1 · Post Post #709 (isolation #54) » Wed Jul 06, 2016 5:58 pm

Knowing how very extremely early this game is I'm gonna go out on a limb and say I feel like tickling Egg and Elyse.

Wake1 · Post Post #710 (isolation #55) » Wed Jul 06, 2016 6:06 pm

We've got, what, about four days left (IF you add 24 hrs downtime)? If not about 3 day 8 hrs atm.

Let's come to a decision. Pretty sure Robb/House is a MAJOR distraction that's getting used by Scum.

HEY, how about you take votes off Robb and House? If not I'm COMING for you and if you're Scum you REALLY don't want that.

Vedith (2): BBmolla, cmitc1
Masquerade (1): Egg
BlankFace (2): Elyse, Hoopla
Robbnva (2): House, ChaosOmega
House (2): Grendel, Robbnva
Elyse (1): BlankFace
Hoopla (1): Vedith

No Vote (2): Wake88, Masquerade

Wake1 · Post Post #711 (isolation #56) » Wed Jul 06, 2016 6:08 pm

HEY, try this!

Vedith (2): BBmolla, cmitc1
Masquerade (1): Egg
BlankFace (2): Elyse, Hoopla
Elyse (1): BlankFace
Hoopla (1): Vedith

No Vote (2): Wake88, Masquerade, Grendel, Robbnva, House, ChaosOmega

SEE? MUCH BETTER.

So we've got 3-4 days, and a tie on Vedith and Blankface.

BETTER WORK FAST b/c I'm not backing Robb/House wagons!

Wake1 · Post Post #713 (isolation #57) » Wed Jul 06, 2016 6:19 pm

House

710 GO!

House

711 GO!

Wake1 · Post Post #715 (isolation #58) » Wed Jul 06, 2016 6:20 pm

In post 714, House wrote:
In post 711, Wake1 wrote:HEY, try this!

Vedith (2): BBmolla, cmitc1
Masquerade (1): Egg
BlankFace (2): Elyse, Hoopla
Elyse (1): BlankFace
Hoopla (1): Vedith

No Vote (2): Wake88, Masquerade, Grendel, Robbnva, House, ChaosOmega

SEE? MUCH BETTER.

So we've got 3-4 days, and a tie on Vedith and Blankface.

BETTER WORK FAST b/c I'm not backing Robb/House wagons!
Already made it known I could vote either of those two.

Glad to see your participation has picked up.

If you're Scum and crying inside you have my total sympathy!

Oh that vote thing go do!

Wake1 · Post Post #717 (isolation #59) » Wed Jul 06, 2016 6:23 pm

GO DO.

Wake1 · Post Post #720 (isolation #60) » Wed Jul 06, 2016 6:29 pm

In post 718, House wrote:
In post 717, Wake1 wrote:GO DO.
Dude, I was scanning ISOs.

Between Vedith and BlankFace, I think Vedith is infinitely more deserving of rope.

VOTE: Vedith

OK COOL

why

.

Wake1 · Post Post #721 (isolation #61) » Wed Jul 06, 2016 6:31 pm

In post 719, House wrote:I have another juicy scum read, but it can wait until d2.

But if you die first that'd totally help Town right?

Wake1 · Post Post #723 (isolation #62) » Wed Jul 06, 2016 6:36 pm

Are you ticklish?

Wake1 · Post Post #744 (isolation #63) » Thu Jul 07, 2016 6:48 am

In post 734, Masquerade wrote:VOTE: Vedith

I really want to know why.

In post 735, Vedith wrote:At least the game is backup now.
After I'm lynched and you see my role in all it's glory, promise to vote Hoopla.

If you're Town I'm asking you to start being more vocal about your reads and putting more into the game. If you're Town the effort will translate better. It'll also be easier to read you.

In post 737, Hoopla wrote:I don't often get good scumreads on D1 and find an easier time spotting townies, so I have a tendency to push D1 wagons on anyone not-town - today is no exception given most of the player list simply hasn't posted enough.

You act as if Vedith or Blankface have been around to be interacted with at all. Blankface in particular has been asked for his reads instead of his refereeing several times, including by me, to no avail. I genuinely have no idea who he finds suspicious. Vedith doesn't really directly interact with me despite him voting for me - do you find that suspicious too? If so, why single me and Wake out?

Day 2 is when the game truly begins imho.

If you had to choose between Vedith or Blankface who would it be and why?

Where are you on Egg and Elyse Hoopla?

Wake1 · Post Post #755 (isolation #64) » Thu Jul 07, 2016 4:30 pm

Not happy about losing the Jailkeeper.

Why can't people behave?

Wake1 · Post Post #757 (isolation #65) » Thu Jul 07, 2016 4:41 pm

In post 756, House wrote:Hey Wake, thanks for the nice shiny scumread brah.

?

Wake1 · Post Post #759 (isolation #66) » Thu Jul 07, 2016 4:51 pm

In post 758, Elyse wrote:Wake why aren't you voting

I decide when I vote.

Why do you rush me to act?

Wake1 · Post Post #825 (isolation #67) » Sun Jul 10, 2016 3:45 am

Prod received.

Vedith and Blankface aren't the two I want to see pressured today, but I'm tilling to be flexible (*GASP*) if it means achieving a lynch.