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Explain to me why AxleGreaser ("a very experienced player") asking me (an inexperienced player) about my general opinion of fake claiming is scum indicative.
In post 19, lilac wrote:@Performer Sweet. Do you sing in a choir? I do!
In post 100, pisskop wrote:vote: pisskop
Like I dont even care about this game, and the fapterbation and trying to force us out of lylo with overanalysis is something both keysor and ai do.
I scumread ai for sure. Take a look at his very small meta and tell me why.
In post 127, pisskop wrote:To let yu guys tie your own knots and to follow my established meta.
In post 128, pisskop wrote:Im more than willing to lose to prove my point.
In post 129, pisskop wrote:When and if I feel like it Ill come back and do things.
In post 134, AlwaysInnocent wrote:I don't think town-Pisskop would give up like this. It is so weird.
In post 144, AlwaysInnocent wrote:Pisskop is not a beginner. He knows how to play Mafia. I really don't understand why town-Pisskop would act like this. From town-Pisskop's POV, I could be scum trying to frame him. Surely he wouldn't give up so easily if he considered this possible?
In our last game together, he was town and wasn't very impressed by my actions. In fact, he even lynched me (I was town too), because he thought it was scummy. What causes him to react like this?
What seems most plausible is this: Scum-Pisskop hates being scumread on page 5 and attempts to confuse the town by doing something bold. Possibly he doesn't even like playing scum.
In post 172, pisskop wrote:The difference between the two is everything my little heart could desire.
vote: ai
I dont even think itd take my special brand of meta to see that youre pointed and goal-driven instead of in a problem solving mode.
In post 190, Raskolnikov wrote:FOS on Performer for talking about irrelevant stuff all game.
I townlean axle and townread Massive.
In post 240, pisskop wrote:http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... +performer
the only game with you where I wasnt scum or mod :/
In post 245, pisskop wrote:also why are you bookmarking games you played in?
In post 244, pisskop wrote:catch
In post 293, droog wrote:In post 14, Performer wrote:Strange that Axle asked Keyser about fake claim, during RVS. Never seen this happen before.
its random questions instead of random votes
It sounds retarded to say but the reasons behind this wagon are actually good even if it's wrong about me being scum.
He currently ties Ras on scummiest player currently (and yes, I do think both are scum).
In post 252, AlwaysInnocent wrote:Read List D1 V3
{AlwaysInnocent}
{Ircher, Keyser}
{Deus}
{Performer}
{Lilac, Massive, Burning_Earth}
{Axle, Heat}
{UpTooLate, Raskolnikov}
{Pisskop}
In post 383, Heat wrote:UTL started out with some really strong analysis that I liked, and I do agree with a lot of her views on players, namely keysor and Pk.
She also has an Asuna avatar and I'm SAO trash so
{AlwaysInnocent}
{Ircher, Keyser}
{Deus}
{Performer, Droog, Raskolnikov}
{Axle, Boonskiies, Massive}
{Pisskop}
{UpTooLate, Heat}
i agree a lot more with\
what your readlist has become
[unvote[[/unvote]
i want ot rethink some things
utl and heat are moving more toward null for me though
In post 502, droog wrote:In post 498, Performer wrote:what are you rethinking, Droog?
my vote (clearly)
and my reads
what are you expecting
and why do you make my comment sound conniving
In post 509, pisskop wrote:Is AI not being scummy or are you guys just ignoring it?
Simple question.
performer at the same time
says he only socializes sometimes
but cant give an opinion on pisskop
In post 679, Keyser Söze wrote:In post 247, Performer wrote:massive – I don't like how you stated you're easy to read as every alignment. I played only 1 game with you and I never had a strong townread on you before your flip in that game. Can you expand on why you say you're easy to read as every alignment, maybe including examples?
Can you explain why massive stating this was scum-indicative.
Is massive still in your "scummy" pile?
Is massive due a prod?
In post 761, Raskolnikov wrote:Mmm. Ircher was a red herring and my next strongest scumread is on axle who's probably won't go anywhere today. welp.
I need to look at the interaction between Heat and UTL because frankly, they might be scum partners.
. My post about him was because he came across looking like he didn't care about voting or was purposely not voting, things that I think are scummy.762
In post 874, Golden Robster wrote:In post 194, Raskolnikov wrote:Townreading Heat and UTL at this point.
*looks at them with an intensified look*
As I stated before, I definitely think that one of them is scum.
wth?? he was town AND the JOAT?? *big sigh* In post 876, Ircher wrote:Spoiler: Final D1 Reads
This read list is what I'm feeling at the end of D1 prior to my reread of the thread at night.
My reads at the end of the entire sequence (end of N1) will be labeled as such and come after my night analysis post.
In post 880, Heat wrote:I wasn't expecting AI to get nked tbh
I also wasn't expecting ras to flip scum but w/e. I love surprises!
Time to go look at who AI was scumreading
In post 882, pisskop wrote:If your reads arent sufficient to go of of than something is wrong
In post 887, massive wrote:Probably going to vote Ircher once I have a chance to reread the thread, but that will probably be Monday. Can't imagine any reason I'd let AI hard-defend me all of D1 if I'm town.
In post 891, Boonskiies wrote:In post 889, pisskop wrote:thats a good vote
Specifically from end day yesterday; I found Ras's thing on Performer way too organic, which made me feel the inside knowledge come out.
In post 892, pisskop wrote:performer is scum because hes following his scum meta. But if the poor attempt to read performer is what will get votes then good too
In post 902, UpTooLate wrote:In post 899, Performer wrote:After looking over AI’s posts about scumreading UTL,
You mean when he kept throwing around "opportunistic" and never once explained why?
In post 909, pisskop wrote:im not exactly townreading Goldenrod either
In post 924, Ircher wrote:In post 915, Golden Robster wrote:Wait a minute.
You think Performer is scum when he explicitly states that Ras is one of his scum reads during one the earlier posts.
I don't see your argument here.
Also, it is not unheard of (at all) of scum bussing their partners, especially when it is desparate.
In post 934, Ircher wrote:Also, what's up with the tunnelling @Boon
I mean, is it only me who sticks out to you? You seem to be so sure I'm scum that you pursue me at the exclusion of everyone else.
Trying to lynch someone you think is scum is good, but don't go overboard, there is ALWAYS that chance you are wrong.
what happened to that townread
and how rask looks townie in his defene?
In post 931, Boonskiies wrote:Performer/Ircher/Ras is like the most transparent scum team I've seen in a while.
Just look at Ircher trying so hard to get something else to stick.
In post 981, pisskop wrote:fun with numbers.
Anywho, reading massive based on his total posts is meh at best. Thats like trying to read boons based on total posts or me.
Some games Im in I make up 20% of the total post counts.
He is playing a little differently than my last game with him when he was town.
I get where your coming from. There's a lot of fluff within this pile of text that hides it away but the vote clears all that away.
I'm going to stick with my guns on this one. Even if he does flip scum and you all accuse me of being scum buddies together.
if someone has similar reads to me
they are on the same wavelength
likelier to be town
In post 1024, massive wrote:In post 787, Performer wrote:K, caught up with the recent post from Rask on pg 32, and reviewed pg 31 interactions with Rask. It's deadline and the guy put up a periphery post about Axle/Ircher/AI/Droog, on pg 32. His pg 31 doesn't look good either, it's like he doesn't care about or wants to actively impede progress. Deadline is just around the corner, I'm changing my read on Rask again after this deliberation.
Is this the post of a Rask scumbuddy? Initially I looked at it as trying to force through the Rask lynch, but that's only scummy if Performer is scum and Rask is town, which we know he wasn't.
I don't see how you got "actively impede progress".
In post 1049, Heat wrote:I have problems with Ircher's "look at this post I made! scum wouldn't do that!!" because it's complete bullshit and doesn't actually mean anything. Scum totally would do a readthrough of the thread and make a big post like that because it seems like a town thing to do. So thats not really alignment indicative. actively jumping up and down pointing at the post in question is not town.
Saying "I'm town!" over and over again really doesn't mean a lot. pointing at a readslist and saying "I'm town!" is no different
idk if I'm making sense here
As to your question -- It does look a desparate Performer who is doing a last minute bus of his partner. Definitely dob't think a read can change that quick.
In post 1050, massive wrote:That's not how I play.
See my 1024. Whether or not the speed of Performer's read turn is scummy, why does scum-Performer need to establish justification and MORE reasons for switching to Rask? If he switched to Rask near deadline and simply said "welp it's deadline," no one would question the speed of his read turn. Why does scum-Performer make this post?
