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i can buy itxyzzy wrote:Everyone bandwagon OTM and then we'll make him claim.
(Actually, that tends to be a good strategy; a power role for a scum is a good tradeoff, and if we force claims every day, we have a much higher chance of finding scum if the power roles aren't lying morans...)vote: off the markSchismatized: JDODGE R RETARD
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but if they dont claim their specific roles, every1 will just claim town. i believe it is worth it.AlSleet wrote:Eh, I don't know, I'm in favor of mass voting at the beginning to spark discussion but definitely not for role claiming. Seems like it would benefit the scum more to know who certain people are for definite as opposed to us only having an idea as to who the scum are.Schismatized: JDODGE R RETARD
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still happy with my vote on theopor. it doesnt seem like hes said anything worth saying so far.. he has just belittled other players and thrown is vote with seemingly no motive. I know it is still somewhat early in the game and randomness is okay but still..Schismatized: JDODGE R RETARD
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[quote="KaleiÐoscøpe"]:: Barks ::
I just readed everything through and oh god. It's truelly amazing how many people can act anti-town in such a short amount of time.
Anyway,Vote: schismatizedbecause he's giving me anti-town feelings every time I noticed one of his posts
FoS: Panzerfor being too random andFoS: Off the Markfor being way to vote/fos happy all game.
That's it for now[/quote]
hmm you really gave no reason for voting me. anti-town feelings?Schismatized: JDODGE R RETARD
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[quote="KaleiÐoscøpe"]Anyway,Vote: schismatizedbecause he's giving me anti-town feelings every time I noticed one of his posts
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this is not a valid reason IMO. When do I "make scummy post?"
FoS:Panzer and KaleiÐoscøpeNeither of you have provided any proof or a valid argument and in my mind, this seems very scummy.Schismatized: JDODGE R RETARD
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The only reason i have gone off task, is because there are other players in this game that have brought me off task. I believe that there a few people in this thread that are using there out-of-game opinions of me to target me. This, IMO is BS. Sry to be so hotheaded but these players should know better and I think the reason they dont have any restraint to attack me, is because they are possibly scum.AlSleet wrote:FOS: schismatized
Your play has been almost inexplicably scummy to me on the last three pages. Mainly the fact that you keep going off task to insult someone or change your vote for what looks like a personal reason. Both are anti-town and make it seem not very unlikely that you're scum. I'll give it a little more time before I cast a vote against you though.vote: panzerjagerbecause he is the main person doing this.Schismatized: JDODGE R RETARD
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in answer to your question panzer, i have been posting the way i have because i have been singled out for no reason numerous times so far. i think that you and kaliedo, are doing this because you know that i am new and nobody seems to protest your illogical reasoning.
Your just trying to make me look like a bad player to get other people to vote for me. I have just been trying to reveal scum just as much as anyone else, and the only thing i can think of that i have done wrong that was scummy was telling xyz that he had a decent idea. in my mind, it still is a good idea but i realize it should be implemented later on in the game. Im not sure what my vc is at right now bc im lazy and the mod hasnt posted it lately, but if i get lynched, the town should definitely look at panzer.Panzerjager wrote:Schis is an idiot and a bad town player so your vote is wasted on him.Schismatized: JDODGE R RETARD
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well yeah whats the good if im the only one that seems like is trying to find the mafia? its already been proven that none of my logical rebuttals to anyones arguments make a difference, peoples idiocracy defeats intelligent replies. i still have yet to see more than one valid argument against me.Schismatized: JDODGE R RETARD
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i wont be able to get on for probably 12 hours or so. If im still alive, ill be surprised. I wont hold it against you all. If i get lynched, take a good hard looks at panzer and kscope. also, maybe theo is distancing? korran seems like town, just a moronic town.Schismatized: JDODGE R RETARD
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haha like the town would be better for it the way some of you have been playing...AlSleet wrote:
Town or no town, I'm glad to see a detriment like you go.schismatized wrote:sum1 just kill me. if i live, i dont feel like wading thru all the bs and idiocracy that has been posted so far. most of you are such retarded town you seem like scum.Schismatized: JDODGE R RETARD
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[quote="xyzzy"]Schis, if I ever need advice on how to use crap logic, I'm turning to you.
Unvote vote Schis[/quote]
yeah uhh... didnt show how my logic was crap. why the vote?
[quote="Korran"]Vote schisfor seeming to me to panic! :p[/quote]
your just an idiot... nothing you post makes sense.
[quote="KaleiÐoscøpe"]Anyway,Vote: schismatizedbecause he's giving me anti-town feelings every time I noticed one of his posts[/quote]
yeah why? because yr scum and you want to slip in while panzer attacks me?
[quote="Panzerjager"]Unvote, Vote:Schism
He gave you a reason. You make scummy post and that is what he said. How did you miss that?[/quote]
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[quote="KaleiÐoscøpe"]I'll get you some quotes that make me feel scummy about you:[quote="schismatized"][quote="xyzzy"]Everyone bandwagon OTM and then we'll make him claim.
(Actually, that tends to be a good strategy; a power role for a scum is a good tradeoff, and if we force claims every day, we have a much higher chance of finding scum if the power roles aren't lying morans...)[/quote]i can buy itvote: off the mark[/quote]It's funny you're saying that my vote and the one of panzer is more scummy then this post of yours.
i stated this earlier: i thought it was a good idea. it got something started didnt it? in hindsight, i realize it can only really work later in the game
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[quote="schismatized"]just to be clear: i am in no way wanting a lynch this early. i just think putting pressure on people is a good way to reveal scum. and correct me if i am wrong we need 7 to lynch so 2 or 3 isnt THAT much pressure. [/quote]I'm really clueless here how votes provide pressure here to reveal scum. Votes provide pressure to let people post, not much else. It's not like people will claim scum once you pile votes on them. Again, a weak argument.
Your doing this shit to me now hypocrite, although i never intended do get someone so close to lynch. I only ever wanted 2-3 "pressure votes."
[quote="schismatized"][quote="AlSleet"]Eh, I don't know, I'm in favor of mass voting at the beginning to spark discussion but definitely not for role claiming. Seems like it would benefit the scum more to know who certain people are for definite as opposed to us only having an idea as to who the scum are.[/quote]but if they dont claim their specific roles, every1 will just claim town. i believe it is worth it.[/quote]Supporting a mass claim on day 1? I don't know if this is your first game of playing, but in general, this is bad, especially because we can't know what to expect.
reading this now, i do see the flaw in my judgement. i understand we dont want to give up our power roles. why didnt you say that was why its bad? "we can't know what to expect?" what the fuck is that sposed to mean?
[quote="schismatized"]still happy with my vote on theopor. it doesnt seem like hes said anything worth saying so far.. he has just belittled other players and thrown is vote with seemingly no motive. I know it is still somewhat early in the game and randomness is okay but still..[/quote]Followed by this post in a short matter of time:
[quote="schismatized"]unvotepanzer i dont see why i need "the benefit of the doubt." i think you are just trying cast everyones suspicions on me.
FOS: Panzerjager[/quote]If you're still happy with a vote on someone, and you unvote it in the next post right away, without any explanation, with only 2 posts with not much content about your vote, then I'd say that is pretty scummy.
well those two posts were 18 hours a part and there were a couple of other ppls votes inbetween, way to twist the facts dumbshit. I was happy with it, 18 HOURS EARLIER. I can change my damn mind, especially when panzer said something pretty damn scummy too. i cant have two votes you know...
The funny thing is, even your reaction towards me outing my suspicion is something I see scum often do: throw with FoSes to throw back suspicion again.
Wow i bet you could apply logic like that to any situation. Bet i could go back and find other games that replacement scum jumped into a game and got all trigger happy and jumped on whatever bandwagon was available.
Vote stays. For me, you are the best lynch today, by far
clearly youd be a better one.
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[quote="schismatized"][quote="xyzzy"]Schis, if I ever need advice on how to use crap logic, I'm turning to you.
Unvote vote Schis[/quote]
yeah uhh... didnt show how my logic was crap. why the vote?
[quote="Korran"]Vote schisfor seeming to me to panic! :p[/quote]
your just an idiot... nothing you post makes sense.
[quote="KaleiÐoscøpe"]Anyway,Vote: schismatizedbecause he's giving me anti-town feelings every time I noticed one of his posts[/quote]
yeah why? because yr scum and you want to slip in while panzer attacks me?
[quote="Panzerjager"]Unvote, Vote:Schism
He gave you a reason. You make scummy post and that is what he said. How did you miss that?[/quote]
that wasnt much of a reason bub.[/quote]
For the record, if you idiots would have told the truth,"im posting on schis bc i want to get this game going," or, "hey im scum and maybe he wont notice i just voted him out of nowhere," or even more likely, "hey theos been here a while and hes def more popular than schis, ill vote him bc i want to suck up to someone," maybe i wouldnt have reacted this way. but you did. you lied. you tried to pass off your bullshit reasons and i dont buy it. too bad only a few of you are scum, that means the rest of you are either:
a. just plain stupid
b. plain stupid and worse, you think just bc a more experienced scummer said it, they must be right
c. just dont care (why the hell would you even start)
dont worry, ill forgive the people that fall into the A category bc they cant help it.Schismatized: JDODGE R RETARD
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First of all, I dont like being handled with kid gloves. I dont need any newb excuses to fall back on. Also, i dont like that everyone is trying to make what i have done as "okay" because i am newb. I find it funny how some of you are backing off (or lurking) now that i pointed out all the flaws in your reasonless votes. very scummy.vote: xyzzyfor trying to slip in on the schiswagon unnoticed. Atleast some ppl tried to flavor their vote with a nice dash of bullshit to try to pass it under the radar.Schismatized: JDODGE R RETARD
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hah at least my insult carried some weight. i must have confused himtheopor_COD wrote:
Nor all the excessive flaming.Korran wrote:
Well fuck you you dumb shit I hope you get lynched.schismatized wrote:
your just an idiot... nothing you post makes sense.Korran wrote:Vote schisfor seeming to me to panic! :pSchismatized: JDODGE R RETARD
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Actually it was early morning when i posted that so you can bet that most of you have seen that. Also, you can call my vote whatever you want, your vote was scummy, so i voted for you. I would have voted for you if you had tried to slip in unnoticed on sum1 elses bandwagon.xyzzy wrote:Right, people not posting for 13 hours is scummy, since we're all in the same timezone as you.Schismatized: JDODGE R RETARD
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Of course not. i just thot it was scummy that people were distancing themselves from my lynch.Off the Mark wrote:Just reading through again, and I have to ask this:
Do you WANT to be lynched or something? I just can't figure out why you'd say this.schism wrote: Also, i dont like that everyone is trying to make what i have done as "okay" because i am newb.Schismatized: JDODGE R RETARD
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[quote="KaleiÐoscøpe"][quote]i stated this earlier: i thought it was a good idea. it got something started didnt it? in hindsight, i realize it can only really work later in the game [/quote]Do you understand now why it is a bad idea?
guess not. maybe you should think even LESS about what i write.
[quote]Your doing this shit to me now hypocrite, although i never intended do get someone so close to lynch. I only ever wanted 2-3 "pressure votes." [/quote]But why does pressure voting reveal scum? Whats the logic behind it? Because I can't quite follow that.
dont know. why are you doing it then?
[quote]reading this now, i do see the flaw in my judgement. i understand we dont want to give up our power roles. why didnt you say that was why its bad? "we can't know what to expect?" what the fuck is that sposed to mean? [/quote]It ment this game is unthemed, so we don't know what we can expect from a mass claim. I think we end up with a lot of vanilla townie claims.
maybe you should have started explaining yourself like this when i asked FOREVER ago.
[quote]well those two posts were 18 hours a part and there were a couple of other ppls votes inbetween, way to twist the facts dumbshit. I was happy with it, 18 HOURS EARLIER. I can change my damn mind, especially when panzer said something pretty damn scummy too. i cant have two votes you know... [/quote]No one voted in between, so I'm not changing the facts. You failed to give reasons for your unvote, and you still haven't done that so far
i unvoted because i realized panzerjager was more likely to be mafia. I was getting ready to vote him and i wanted to hear everyones opinions on my thots.
[quote]Wow i bet you could apply logic like that to any situation. Bet i could go back and find other games that replacement scum jumped into a game and got all trigger happy and jumped on whatever bandwagon was available. [/quote]Yeah, probably. Doesn't mean this situation couldn't indicate a townie doing it.
doesnt mean it could. applying circular logic to all your bs does not help anyone, it just makes you look scummier
All in all, I'm happy with your reply, aside from the fucks and idiot calling. It hasn't changed my opinion though. Your attitude in this game is just outright horrible, combined with terribly scummy.
wow i dont like this. after you drag everything i say thru the mud, you say your happy with my reply? wtf is this? are you 10? who istill tries to have the "last laugh?" very scummy.
[quote]Kaleidoscope - very quick to attack with fishy reasoning[/quote] Are you expecting solid logic on day 1? And as I said, Shanba asked an activity boost from me. That's the reason I replaced in (also, because I <3 Shanba )
so you agree that your not using "solid logic?"
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Alright i am tired of talking in circles with kscope. he tries to spin off every word i say as bad and he twists everything to make himself look like hes hunting scum. not very pro town.vote: KaleiÐoscøpeSchismatized: JDODGE R RETARD
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For the record, heres my most likely to be werewolve (just remembered it was werewolves lol) players so far:
KaleiÐoscøpe- he jumped right in after he replaced and started throwing all kinds of accusations around with little to no thought behind them. when questioned on these, he hides behind quotes and tries to shrug everything off using circular logic.
Panzerjager- hes the one who tried starting a reasonless bandwagon on me. he provided no explanations but certainly didnt complain when i was so close to lynch. in fact, he's been lurking a while. bet hes trying to let the bandwagon die down so he doesnt get caught.
xyzzy- i just realized he still hasnt replied to my statement saying that he tried to slip unnoticed on to my bandwagon. looks like he just ignored that whole part of my post.Schismatized: JDODGE R RETARD
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haha at kscope and panzer. i still think they are scum, hopping off the bandwagon now that everyone is off my back. you were pretty sure i was mafia. calling me ignorant is pointless panzer, you have really posted nothing helpful either, just pointless chatter.Schismatized: JDODGE R RETARD
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out of 15 post, this is the only thing you have said that seems like you gave ANY thought to, the rest were just random accusations and rather dodgy behavior.Panzerjager wrote:Also, the biggest screw up in your theory is the newbie factor. Pressurized newbies tend to act like pressurized scum instead of pressurized townie and will make the inevitable vanilla townie claims be hard to tell apart from each other.
K-scope, early in the game it is common for people to be on similar wave lengths. I found my self think along very similar lines as you but you simply posted first.Schismatized: JDODGE R RETARD
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Lets see how much protown posts panzer has made:
Random vote,Panzerjager wrote:Hi guys
Vote: OffThe Mark
Page 1 is for random voting so shush you.
andFoS:Bethelmark
for having Hand of Cruelty as his avatar. Proc White is totally anti town.neutral
Stating what was already said by OTM,Panzerjager wrote:Yes, the entire mafia quick lynchs you and then gues what? The town says hey..Those guys..they are pretty scummy. And we lynch them. So calm yourself down. You seem way to paranoid.neutral
Acually makes a accusation with a LITTLE reason behind it,Panzerjager wrote:Qman..your're doing the same thing. Is being a hypocrite to punish a hypocrite a scumtell?FOS:Qmanprotown
Pointless, just attacks me and calls me an idiot, which he clearly is the imbecile here because he lack ANY reason inside the confines of his probably small mind. You said stop the insult war? pretty hypocritical, you started it bud.Panzerjager wrote:Haha..man I love Theo and I hate Theo. Anyway, OMGUS = Oh My God You Suck.
It means your voting him out of revenge.
Schis is an idiot and a bad town player so your vote is wasted on him.neutral, i was nice on that one.
wow this was the only post i think is actually reallyPanzerjager wrote:I have no personal vendettas, I am an evangilist of honesty. Something that commonly dies in people. Anyway Xyzzy, it is a bad idea. You know this and I know you know this, because I know how good of a player you are. Your either some retarded lynch role or mafia trying to blend in with the newbies. Well, a Plan C occured to me. You're measuring reactions. I think that this is not the right way to go about it. All you are doing is finding out who is new and who isn't.
So which is it my good friend: A,B, or C?protown, good job!
yeah another reasonless vote. not sure i understand. so you were against xyz's massclaim but you want to turn it agains him? very,Panzerjager wrote:Well..at this point. Let's test a theory.Unvote, Vote:Xyzzyantitown
yeah.. this is just. i dont know what to make of this. it sure doesnt seem protown to me, but ill be nicePanzerjager wrote:I don't know. I like to give new players the benefit of the doubt.neutral
once again, you attack me saying that i am dumb or some shit? stop trying to make me look useless. i think thats the 3rd time? yeah i wonder whos the idiot. what are you trying to prove? oh i know, you just dont want anyone to believe me when i say that you are scum.Panzerjager wrote:Schism, I'm casting suspicion off you. Especially if I getFinger of Suspicioned. Don't be dense. So I understand that he is new but new players have logic. When he start using bad/scum logic, I will be suspicious. For no he is using Newbie logic. That is all I was saying by "letting him slide." And it is a known fact that people who are better then either of us(xyzzy) let newbies slide(to an extent).antitown
seems like your trying to distance your self from xyz. and for the TENTHOUSANDTH time, having a gut feeling is not a valid reason. Stop trying to defend your scum buddy. Dont try to play this off as OMGUS again, because i wouldnt have came at you this way if you werent voting for me bc i questioned why someone else was voting for me. VeryPanzerjager wrote:Alright. Kissing up to xyzzy? No, we are simply friends and I respect him and his play. Politeness is not a scumtell last I checked. K-scope, I don't see how you can say that I am random.
Unvote, Vote:Schism
He gave you a reason. You make scummy post and that is what he said. How did you miss that?antitown
you know what else makes it hard to find scum? mass idiocracy. i can see how my defensiveness may seem scummy, but i just dont understand why 2-3 of you have to lie and bulshit to hide your reason to vote me. also, looks like your distancing a tad bit from kscope too.Panzerjager wrote:Xyzzy, I never said I found you townie. I said I respected you. Also, the biggest screw up in your theory is the newbie factor. Pressurized newbies tend to act like pressurized scum instead of pressurized townie and will make the inevitable vanilla townie claims be hard to tell apart from each other.
K-scope, early in the game it is common for people to be on similar wave lengths. I found my self think along very similar lines as you but you simply posted first.neutralbecause you explained yourself somewhat.
yeah trying to reiterate the fact that i was the target. s'ok.Panzerjager wrote:on people? He mentioned 1 personneutralbecause this seems slightly harmless.
haha i think that first sentence is an OUTRIGHT LIE. its clear that you have insulted me personally multiple times for no reason inside this game. also, "posting the way i have?" up until this post i had just been asking questions and wondering why a bandwagon was forming on me. i guess you mean, why dont i just get lynched quietly and shutup?Panzerjager wrote:Schism, you are the only person bringing personal things into this game. I have provided my reason. You have simply said "boohoo, you agrued with me in scum chat so i'm gonna make sure I vote you" and vote me then OMGUS FoSed Kscope. Why are you taking offense to being called scummy. Just tell us why you have been posting the way you have. That is thing any of us have wanted.antitown
wow, ad hominem. you must have really thot about that post eh? i have given multiple logical posts and reasons, but somehow, you and kscope, and some others, have just plain ignored them or tried to play them down. you, sir, are the one that has personally attacked me multiple times.Panzerjager wrote:Schism, do you realize that you are saying that your entire bandwagon is due to logical fallicies when your only evidence supporting that is ad Hominem.antitown
dont know wtf that means lol.Panzerjager wrote:QFTneutralbc its pointless
wow your backing down after you so futiley attacked me? and you still insult me. yeah it must suck that your blind minions are starting to actually think about what i say. i love how you played it down as my fault, for being stupid, yet again.Panzerjager wrote:I'm going with aUnvoteat the moment. I'm gonna see if I can spot scum, because I already claimed Schism was an idiot. Then again Schism could very well be ignorant scum, as Xyzzy stated "Everyone has the same chance of being scum." The main point of this is to say ignorance is the problem I have with him not his scumminess.antitown
wow you claim OMGUS again? now your just rotating the same replies over and over. sounds like scum tripping over his words. you also tried to play me down as "bad scum" or "idiot townie" but left it open for when, i know, since your probably scum, youll come after me later.Panzerjager wrote:Major FoS: OTM
@schism, your case on me is little more then OMGUS. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt because if you are scum we can lynch you after we lynch the good scum players because we already have enough shit to string you up on.antitown
alright lets count. 7 neutral, 2 protown, 7 antitown; out of 16 total posts. wow thats a lot of antitown. he sure doesnt look like town to me. hmm maybe kscope will come to his rescue, maybe he wants to lay low for a while. we'll see.vote: panzerjagerSchismatized: JDODGE R RETARD
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why? this argument with you is pointless. it takes up like an hour to write a reply to all your bs and i dont think it has helped the town well. nobody is really participating well in this game, and me and you going at it isnt helping. im done until somebody posts something worthwhile.Panzerjager wrote:Respond or be lynched. Those are really your options.Schismatized: JDODGE R RETARD
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I was just thinking of giving an analysis on OTM, because ive had little to no interaction with him so far... oh and BTW, i dont think my play thus far really has been bad town, i do realize that i have insulted people and thats probably why they say it is, but i have provided a lot of clear arguments and observations. i realize though that nobodys going to admit this because i probably hurt their feelings and they wont admit that either. oh well.. thats just how i am, harsh and a bit of an ass at times.Schismatized: JDODGE R RETARD
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i said that because its obvious he doesnt know what hes doing and he shouldnt be here. i doubt hes scum because he hasnt said a whole lot thats scummy, and ive still got the money on kscope and panzer, maybe even xyz. oh and smart one its moron dumbass.Schismatized: JDODGE R RETARD
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for the record, i think still think panzer is the play here lol. he has pulled the wool over the towns eyes so well my votes not gonna change until someone else says something really really scummy. also i think we need a deadline on the game. its getting a bit slow/boring.Schismatized: JDODGE R RETARD
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