Mini Normal 1609: The Case Of Doctor Pepper (Game Over)

FakeGod · Post Post #1304 (isolation #0) » Wed Sep 24, 2014 12:31 pm

Unvote

FakeGod · Post Post #1305 (isolation #1) » Wed Sep 24, 2014 12:32 pm

Wake, please unvote while I read.

FakeGod · Post Post #1306 (isolation #2) » Wed Sep 24, 2014 12:33 pm

Can someone give me a summary of what happened in this game so far?

FakeGod · Post Post #1341 (isolation #3) » Wed Sep 24, 2014 1:23 pm

Can someone unvote BBT so that I may read in peace without a threat of someone cutting off the day?

FakeGod · Post Post #1345 (isolation #4) » Wed Sep 24, 2014 1:26 pm

Being dead set in your read have nothing to do with unvoting so that a replacement can catch up.

FakeGod · Post Post #1351 (isolation #5) » Wed Sep 24, 2014 1:30 pm

This isn't how this works. It's not a matter of scum or town.

Only reason why someone would not unvote right now is to cut the day off before I could catch up.

My request is a reasonable one. You know it is.

Please unvote.

FakeGod · Post Post #1352 (isolation #6) » Wed Sep 24, 2014 1:31 pm

In post 1350, Csareo wrote:Take a screenshot of the neighborhood PT btw.

Isn't this against the rules?

FakeGod · Post Post #1355 (isolation #7) » Wed Sep 24, 2014 1:32 pm

That's highly unusual.

Most mods do not allow anything except paraphrasing from PTs.

FakeGod · Post Post #1361 (isolation #8) » Wed Sep 24, 2014 1:36 pm

In post 1357, Wake1 wrote:FG, DP refused to clarify that Scum can't simply quote posts from their QT/PT (with Daytalk or not) and pas it off as if from a Neighborhood.

Explain.

FakeGod · Post Post #1364 (isolation #9) » Wed Sep 24, 2014 1:37 pm

In post 1362, Csareo wrote:
In post 1355, FakeGod wrote:That's highly unusual.

Most mods do not allow anything except paraphrasing from PTs.

He supposedly copied the whole neighborhood PT, and the mod didn't say anything.
Which is why I want to lynch him. Besides him being scummy and anti town, I want to know if any of the shit he posted was true.

Why not ask his neighbor whether if it was true?

FakeGod · Post Post #1366 (isolation #10) » Wed Sep 24, 2014 1:38 pm

In post 1363, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I'm not screen-shotting when
it could be a rule-break
.

Good man.

FakeGod · Post Post #1370 (isolation #11) » Wed Sep 24, 2014 1:40 pm

Ok...

TTH, can you confirm those alleged posts from BBT are from the neighborhood you two share?

Please give a straight answer.

FakeGod · Post Post #1372 (isolation #12) » Wed Sep 24, 2014 1:42 pm

Then why is anyone doubting whether those posts were from the neighborhood?

FakeGod · Post Post #1385 (isolation #13) » Wed Sep 24, 2014 1:47 pm

In post 1373, Green Crayons wrote:Because wake has a theory that they're both scum faking to be neighbors.

That theory is impossible, because this is a Normal game, and that means that everyone who has an access to a neighborhood will flip "Neighbor", whether the person is scum or town.

FakeGod · Post Post #1390 (isolation #14) » Wed Sep 24, 2014 1:49 pm

In post 1383, Csareo wrote:Please don't forget about this post fakegod.

You think I should end the day on the basis of few posts that one player selectively picked out for me?

Without reading through any of the game or talking to anyone else?

FakeGod · Post Post #1393 (isolation #15) » Wed Sep 24, 2014 1:51 pm

In post 1387, Green Crayons wrote:wake thinks that they're lying, and no neighborhood exists, and so they will simply flip "scum."

Again, that theory is impossible.

TTH outed the "neighborhood" to lynch BBT.

If BBT flips "Mafia Goon", then town will know what's up and Scum_TTH will immediately be lynched.

FakeGod · Post Post #1398 (isolation #16) » Wed Sep 24, 2014 1:53 pm

In post 1396, Csareo wrote:But now she's unvoting, so is it even clear if she wanted to lynch BBT, or start an early tunnel of her buddy (just asking, because I believe the neighborhood claim)

No.

She held her vote throughout the L-1.

There was real probability that BBT would've been lynched.

The theory is impossible.

FakeGod · Post Post #1408 (isolation #17) » Wed Sep 24, 2014 2:04 pm

I believe that a neighborhood of TTH and BBT exists.

This would mean that one of them

must be

Town, since this is a Normal game, and

all-scum neighborhoods do not exist

.

Lynching out of a neighborhood in a Normal game is

incredibly

suboptimal for obvious reasons.

I think I rather rely on TTH to sort BBT out during the night instead of lynching BBT in d1.

Speaking of which, TTH/BBT, do you guys have daytalk?

FakeGod · Post Post #1411 (isolation #18) » Wed Sep 24, 2014 2:06 pm

I see.

Then it's a good bet that scum does not have daytalk, unless they have an encryptor.

FakeGod · Post Post #1412 (isolation #19) » Wed Sep 24, 2014 2:07 pm

I'm thinking we lynch out of people who joined the Csareo wagon late.

That's my guess where scum votes are.

FakeGod · Post Post #1417 (isolation #20) » Wed Sep 24, 2014 2:14 pm

In post 1413, Wake1 wrote:
In post 1408, FakeGod wrote:
This would mean that one of them
must be
Town, since this is a Normal game, and
all-scum neighborhoods do not exist
.

Evidence?

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Normal_game
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Neighbor

I'm not finding that assertion in the Wiki.

I can't find it either.

So you're going to pursue your theory of an all-scum neighborhood?

I have never seen one.

FakeGod · Post Post #1423 (isolation #21) » Wed Sep 24, 2014 3:13 pm

In post 1422, Wake1 wrote:yet rather quickly "made up" and passed it over, providing some sort of cover to make everyone believe you're Neighbors.

Wake, TTH held BBT at L-1 for an extended period of time.

I see no evidence of your statement.

I am very sure that they are in an actual neighborhood.

FakeGod · Post Post #1425 (isolation #22) » Wed Sep 24, 2014 3:14 pm

In post 1419, Csareo wrote:Telltale, replace your vote.

How sure are you in your BBT scumread?

FakeGod · Post Post #1427 (isolation #23) » Wed Sep 24, 2014 3:32 pm

huh

Jagged has no scumreads. This is concerning, coupled with the fact that GreyICE's ISO is near worthless.

FakeGod · Post Post #1428 (isolation #24) » Wed Sep 24, 2014 3:35 pm

As the mod says,

DO NOT SCREENSHOT ANYTHING.

FakeGod · Post Post #1429 (isolation #25) » Wed Sep 24, 2014 3:37 pm

I'm inclined to read Wake as town here, and I'm willing to dismiss his theory as over-enthusiasm, rather than malicious.

Pretty sure Rufflig is town.

FakeGod · Post Post #1430 (isolation #26) » Wed Sep 24, 2014 3:42 pm

I would be down for lynching Boon.

FakeGod · Post Post #1432 (isolation #27) » Wed Sep 24, 2014 3:47 pm

I'm pretty sure Csar and BBT are both town.

I'm shakier on BBT, but TTH can sort him out in the night.

FakeGod · Post Post #1433 (isolation #28) » Wed Sep 24, 2014 3:50 pm

JA and Anatole cannot be scum together.

FakeGod · Post Post #1434 (isolation #29) » Wed Sep 24, 2014 3:52 pm

Number of people mentioning that they've never heard of Neighbors before points to an all-Town Neighborhood.

FakeGod · Post Post #1435 (isolation #30) » Wed Sep 24, 2014 3:53 pm

I'd lynch Doogal as well.

FakeGod · Post Post #1436 (isolation #31) » Wed Sep 24, 2014 3:55 pm

I change my mind.

I don't want to lynch Green Canyon today.

FakeGod · Post Post #1437 (isolation #32) » Wed Sep 24, 2014 3:59 pm

I like Anatole's ISO.

FakeGod · Post Post #1439 (isolation #33) » Wed Sep 24, 2014 5:36 pm

Nullish on Flubber

Lynch on him is acceptable.

FakeGod · Post Post #1465 (isolation #34) » Thu Sep 25, 2014 6:54 am

In post 1452, massive wrote:Yeah, but this really puts a dent in the sincerity of your convictions, doesn't it? How much of your vote for Csareo was "he's scum" and how much was self-preservation?

It was obviously a self-preservation vote. The way he voted, unvoted, then got back on when it became clear that Csareo lynch was his only hope of making it to d2 really shows where he stood.

In post 1463, Anatole Kuragin wrote:Lurking does not make someone scum. I think Doogal's town.

Boonskiies is a good lynch

Interesting.

I'm willing to lynch Boon, if only for the litmus test.

FakeGod · Post Post #1466 (isolation #35) » Thu Sep 25, 2014 6:55 am

To show my sincerity,

Vote: Boon

FakeGod · Post Post #1468 (isolation #36) » Thu Sep 25, 2014 6:57 am

@Jagged:

In post 1427, FakeGod wrote:huh

Jagged has no scumreads. This is concerning, coupled with the fact that GreyICE's ISO is near worthless.

Well?

Do you have a scumread?

FakeGod · Post Post #1469 (isolation #37) » Thu Sep 25, 2014 6:58 am

In post 1467, Csareo wrote:BBT is scum and my vote isn't changing.

Are you willing to bet your life on it?

FakeGod · Post Post #1471 (isolation #38) » Thu Sep 25, 2014 7:00 am

Sign it.

"I, Csareo, will self-vote immediately and permanently if BBT flips town."

In bold, please.

FakeGod · Post Post #1477 (isolation #39) » Thu Sep 25, 2014 7:09 am

So, Csareo,

you're telling me that you're absolutely sure that BBT is scum and that you will not change your vote to anyone else, yet you're not willing to risk your neck on the line to get his lynch...

That's not very convincing.

And contrary to your response, it is not against playing for your team's win condition to make guarantees with your life.

It is often the strongest case a player can make.

FakeGod · Post Post #1480 (isolation #40) » Thu Sep 25, 2014 7:10 am

In post 1476, Boonskiies wrote:Wait, so I'm being considered to be the lynch for the day because I'm wanting BBT lynched because I think he's scum, which he probably is. Interesting.

I doubt that.

My guess is that you're probably considered for the lynch because of your play.

FakeGod · Post Post #1482 (isolation #41) » Thu Sep 25, 2014 7:11 am

In post 1478, Csareo wrote:I'll replace out if BBT flips town, but self voting is silly.

Unacceptable.

Replacing out costs you nothing.

Willing to self-vote shows your sincerity.

I'm sure you understand the difference, Csareo.

FakeGod · Post Post #1486 (isolation #42) » Thu Sep 25, 2014 7:17 am

Boon, I thought your VI play early game and one dimensional late game play are why. Mine especially because of the fact that Anatole defended Doogal for no good reason in favor of your lynch, and I want to run a litmus test on him.

FakeGod · Post Post #1487 (isolation #43) » Thu Sep 25, 2014 7:19 am

In post 1485, Csareo wrote:I'm not hammering myself just to convince fakegod. Either you see the reason to lynch or you don't, simple as that.

I didn't ask you to hammer yourself.

Self-voting does not mean you will be lynched with certainty.

You're being incredibly anti-town when you declare "My way or the highway. I'm never moving my vote.", and I want you to stop that.

FakeGod · Post Post #1489 (isolation #44) » Thu Sep 25, 2014 7:21 am

Answer me, Csareo.

FakeGod · Post Post #1494 (isolation #45) » Thu Sep 25, 2014 7:24 am

In post 1490, Anatole Kuragin wrote:
Dougal has come across pro-town to me all game. How is that not a good reason?

With a good reason then. Litmus test is still valid.

In post 1491, Csareo wrote:Answer what? I didn't spot a question in 1487 to answer to?
You're not my damn boss.

You are anti-town, and I want you to stop.

Will you?

FakeGod · Post Post #1498 (isolation #46) » Thu Sep 25, 2014 7:28 am

In post 1496, Csareo wrote:If not agreeing to self vote myself is anti-town, then all hope IS lost for MS

Please do not misrep me.

Refusing to consider any other lynch other than one is incredibly anti-town.

FakeGod · Post Post #1502 (isolation #47) » Thu Sep 25, 2014 7:38 am

In post 1500, Boonskiies wrote:
@FakeGod: ANSWER ME!
Don't get testy with people not answering you when you don't answer others.

You're wrong.

My slot isn't GreyICE slot.

FakeGod · Post Post #1505 (isolation #48) » Thu Sep 25, 2014 7:43 am

In post 1497, Anatole Kuragin wrote:JaggedAlliance is the greyice slot. I'd probably lynch him as a deadline compromise, but there's literally nothing else to go off of besides GreyICE's neighbor/lie thing so it's hard to justify

Anatole already answered you here, Boon...

Regardless, Boon is the play today, gentlemen.

FakeGod · Post Post #1506 (isolation #49) » Thu Sep 25, 2014 7:44 am

In post 1500, Boonskiies wrote: I'd only start being suspicious of TTH if BBT flipped town.

Why?

FakeGod · Post Post #1528 (isolation #50) » Thu Sep 25, 2014 8:40 am

In post 1412, FakeGod wrote:I'm thinking we lynch out of people who joined the Csareo wagon late.

That's my guess where scum votes are.

massive is a person who joined the Csareo wagon late.

massive lynch is acceptable.

FakeGod · Post Post #1529 (isolation #51) » Thu Sep 25, 2014 8:44 am

In post 1511, Boonskiies wrote:
I'm a PR
.

Do you have crumbs, Boon?

I'm finding it hard to believe that your play came from a PR's perspective. (early drawing attention to yourself via VI play, massive number of fluff posts to ensure that you never leave the spotlight, etc)

FakeGod · Post Post #1533 (isolation #52) » Thu Sep 25, 2014 8:49 am

I do believe Boon is lying about being a PR.

FakeGod · Post Post #1539 (isolation #53) » Thu Sep 25, 2014 8:54 am

Csareo, are you seriously entertaining the idea that Boon is actually a town PR?

His play is not what you'd see from a town PR.

Not at all.

Explain your position.

FakeGod · Post Post #1543 (isolation #54) » Thu Sep 25, 2014 8:57 am

I rather lynch the lying scum when he's caught.

FakeGod · Thu Sep 25, 2014 11:29 am

In post 1548, Boonskiies wrote:I will full claim if put to L-1/L-2. Just give me time to respond before hammering. Also, I had no reason to crumb yet. No nights.

Hilarious. I'm guessing you're trying to figure out which PR to claim in order to draw out a town cc before you die.

Next time you decide to fakeclaim a PR as scum, do a little bit of preparation beforehand, instead of blurting out a PR softclaim out of nowhere at L-3.

FakeGod · Thu Sep 25, 2014 11:34 am

In post 1506, FakeGod wrote:
In post 1500, Boonskiies wrote: I'd only start being suspicious of TTH if BBT flipped town.

Why?

Boon, I'd appreciate it if you answer this.

FakeGod · Post Post #1567 (isolation #57) » Thu Sep 25, 2014 3:35 pm

In post 1559, Csareo wrote:Who are you going to track?

This post is atrocious.

FakeGod · Post Post #1568 (isolation #58) » Thu Sep 25, 2014 3:36 pm

Is there a single soul who believes in the tracker claim?

Please step up.

FakeGod · Post Post #1569 (isolation #59) » Thu Sep 25, 2014 3:36 pm

In post 1563, Csareo wrote:
In post 1561, Flubbernugget wrote:CSAREO ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME

Chill. How am I kidding you? A tracker is a confirmable role if he tells us who he's going to track.

Are you being serious?

FakeGod · Post Post #1570 (isolation #60) » Thu Sep 25, 2014 3:40 pm

In post 1560, Flubbernugget wrote:Did Csareo ever explain why he wouldn't self vote? That highly contradicts his arrogant 100% objectively right attitude.

In post 1473, Csareo wrote:@Fakegod-That would be playing against my team's win condition, and accomplish absolutely nothing but having me flip vannila town.

Csareo does not wish to risk his own hide, despite his absolute sureness in his scumread.

He also randomly claimed VT for no reason.

FakeGod · Post Post #1573 (isolation #61) » Thu Sep 25, 2014 3:44 pm

Unvote

Let's talk, Mr. Csar.

Do you really think scum team will be dumb enough to NK Boon if he is not lynched today?

FakeGod · Post Post #1576 (isolation #62) » Thu Sep 25, 2014 3:48 pm

No. Your assumptions are terrible.

Tracker is nearly worthless when it comes to hunting scum.

Tracker is nearly impossible to confirm by itself without outing other town PRs.

FakeGod · Post Post #1577 (isolation #63) » Thu Sep 25, 2014 3:49 pm

Boon is infinitely more valuable as a pocket mislynch to the scum team.

FakeGod · Post Post #1581 (isolation #64) » Thu Sep 25, 2014 3:54 pm

You really think if BBT is scum, he will be allowed to make a kill?

Not in this game. It's never happening.

Tracker is near worthless. It is just as likely to out a protective role (if one exists) then to land a guilty.

FakeGod · Post Post #1583 (isolation #65) » Thu Sep 25, 2014 3:55 pm

In post 1578, Csareo wrote:I can picture a smart tracker putting the pieces together by D2, if BBT is in fact scum like I presume.

You did here.

FakeGod · Post Post #1587 (isolation #66) » Thu Sep 25, 2014 4:02 pm

Oh, yes. Let's examine Boon ISO.

You're telling me, a Tracker decides to open the game by explaining that he will be trolling this game and that he is a VI.

Then he decides to pick a fight GreyICE for no good reason, fluffs his way through the middle of d1, and late joins prominent wagons.

This is supposed to look like an investigative PR, yes?

Why the hell is he causing mischief left and right and drawing as much attention on to himself?

FakeGod · Post Post #1588 (isolation #67) » Thu Sep 25, 2014 4:03 pm

In post 1585, Csareo wrote:
In post 1583, FakeGod wrote:
In post 1578, Csareo wrote:I can picture a smart tracker putting the pieces together by D2, if BBT is in fact scum like I presume.

You did here.

Where in that quote did I say BBT would send out a NK?

Ok.

Tell me how a "smart tracker" can put the "pieces together by D2" and figure out that BBT is scum, without getting a guilty on BBT in N1.

FakeGod · Post Post #1589 (isolation #68) » Thu Sep 25, 2014 4:06 pm

In post 1580, Flubbernugget wrote:If another wagon forms on Csareo I'm going to flip a shit and a half.

It's not happening.

At least not while I'm alive.

I'm convincingly convinced that Csareo is, unfortunately, town.

If he would stop hurting the town, I would be absolutely delighted.

FakeGod · Post Post #1591 (isolation #69) » Thu Sep 25, 2014 4:12 pm

Really?

Is Boons actually a VI?

He would have tried to do the "too VI to be scum" defense by now, if that was the case.

FakeGod · Post Post #1592 (isolation #70) » Thu Sep 25, 2014 4:14 pm

Most VIs with reputation, when pressed, will come out swinging wildly with a clenched fistful of games, in which they exhibited the same ridiculous behavior.

FakeGod · Post Post #1597 (isolation #71) » Thu Sep 25, 2014 5:08 pm

Ugh.

How confident are you two in Boons townread?

FakeGod · Post Post #1599 (isolation #72) » Thu Sep 25, 2014 6:07 pm

In post 1598, The Rufflig wrote:I was not town reading Boonskiies. I do not claim to be able to read his alignment with any certainty. The swiftness of Boonskiies' wagon reaching L-1 with only 1 vote moving from BBT raises a lot of troubling questions.

For a guy claiming to not townread Boons, you are going at great lengths to defend Boons.

FakeGod · Post Post #1602 (isolation #73) » Thu Sep 25, 2014 7:55 pm

I would like the second guy to chime in his opinion.

(I think you mentioned Flub having a recent game with Boon)

FakeGod · Post Post #1603 (isolation #74) » Thu Sep 25, 2014 7:58 pm

It would be foolhardy to lead a lynch against 'Boon, if two players that have recent experience with him are independently reluctant to lynch him.

FakeGod · Post Post #1604 (isolation #75) » Thu Sep 25, 2014 8:02 pm

Flubbernugget

, time is running out.

Your presence is requested.

FakeGod · Post Post #1622 (isolation #76) » Fri Sep 26, 2014 5:34 am

In post 1620, TellTaleHeart wrote:
In post 1603, FakeGod wrote:It would be foolhardy to lead a lynch against 'Boon, if two players that have recent experience with him are independently reluctant to lynch him.

Completely independent of meta, how sure are you on this Boonskiies read, FakeGod?

I pushed him to L-1 before the meta stuff came up.

You know my stance in the matter.

FakeGod · Post Post #1623 (isolation #77) » Fri Sep 26, 2014 5:35 am

In post 1621, Anatole Kuragin wrote:UNVOTE:

This is shitty because we don't want a counter-claim, but tracker is probably the one role he could have that I would believe in the slightest. I'm inclined to give it a day and see what the "result" is.

FakeGod · Post Post #1624 (isolation #78) » Fri Sep 26, 2014 5:39 am

In post 1604, FakeGod wrote:
Flubbernugget
, time is running out.

Your presence is requested.

FakeGod · Post Post #1626 (isolation #79) » Fri Sep 26, 2014 5:46 am

Anatole,

between Dougal and Jagged, which one is a better alternative lynch?

FakeGod · Post Post #1630 (isolation #80) » Fri Sep 26, 2014 6:32 am

In post 1629, massive wrote:Seriously, how about you guys "accept lynches" on people with giant cases against them, and not dump your vote based on some throwaway baloney from the beginning of the day? After 66 pages, you would think you'd have better criteria to choose from.

What does this even mean

FakeGod · Post Post #1631 (isolation #81) » Fri Sep 26, 2014 6:34 am

You guys wasted majority of the day arguing over nonsense and refusing to make compromises.

There's barely any info in the 66 pages.

FakeGod · Post Post #1633 (isolation #82) » Fri Sep 26, 2014 6:43 am

In post 1632, Jagged Appliance wrote:@FakeGod, I agree, there has been a lot of very unproductive conversation in this thread.

You didn't seem to mind it at all!

You and your predecessor has combined post of 28.

In comparison, mods combined have 27.

FakeGod · Post Post #1637 (isolation #83) » Fri Sep 26, 2014 6:49 am

In post 1635, Green Crayons wrote:
This criticism doesn't even make sense.

Hm?

If he really had a problem with the state of this game, then I'd expect him to do something about it, instead of making 1 post per 2.3 pages and letting his posts get buried.

FakeGod · Post Post #1638 (isolation #84) » Fri Sep 26, 2014 6:53 am

Ball's in your court, GC.

FakeGod · Post Post #1642 (isolation #85) » Fri Sep 26, 2014 6:57 am

In post 1640, Flubbernugget wrote:I'll hammer boon if we can agree to flash lynch the next player to have a quote war with either Csareo or Wake that lasts at least 6 posts collectively.

Don't be daft.

You apparently have recent experience with town Boons.

Well? How does he compare here? Is it true that he would do this kind of shit as a town investigative PR?

FakeGod · Post Post #1646 (isolation #86) » Fri Sep 26, 2014 6:59 am

In post 1603, FakeGod wrote:It would be foolhardy to lead a lynch against 'Boon, if two players that have recent experience with him are independently reluctant to lynch him.

Sounds like the condition above hasn't been met.

Boons is the play today.

FakeGod · Post Post #1648 (isolation #87) » Fri Sep 26, 2014 7:03 am

Vote: Boon

L-2, I believe.

FakeGod · Post Post #1653 (isolation #88) » Fri Sep 26, 2014 7:19 am

Unvote

Why did these people say nothing of this?

FakeGod · Post Post #1656 (isolation #89) » Fri Sep 26, 2014 7:25 am

Wagon speed near the deadline is a minor tell.

I wouldn't put my eggs in that basket unless I was desperate.

What I'm interested in is massive to answer for his actions.

FakeGod · Post Post #1669 (isolation #90) » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:35 am

In post 1659, Csareo wrote:Fakegod, I still want you to answer my previous question.
What evidence do you have that boonskies was lying about being a tracker?

In post 1587, FakeGod wrote:Oh, yes. Let's examine Boon ISO.

You're telling me, a Tracker decides to open the game by explaining that he will be trolling this game and that he is a VI.

Then he decides to pick a fight GreyICE for no good reason, fluffs his way through the middle of d1, and late joins prominent wagons.

This is supposed to look like an investigative PR, yes?

Why the hell is he causing mischief left and right and drawing as much attention on to himself?

Already answered.

Please read.

FakeGod · Post Post #1672 (isolation #91) » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:39 am

In post 1658, Csareo wrote:I'm not really sure what actions you want massive to answer for.

massive apparently has been fully aware that this kind of ridiculous VI behavior could be coming from Town PR Boons.

He never bothered to mention this, and is the only one among the group of people who has meta on Boons to be pushing for his lynch after his claim.

FakeGod · Post Post #1673 (isolation #92) » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:40 am

Flubber already gave you up for the dead awhile ago, Boons.

Read between the lines.

FakeGod · Post Post #1678 (isolation #93) » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:46 am

Question: did anyone other than Wake entertain the idea of all-scum neighborhood?

FakeGod · Post Post #1680 (isolation #94) » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:49 am

Ok....?

Reworded: Did anyone entertain the idea of scum faking a neighborhood?

FakeGod · Post Post #1681 (isolation #95) » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:50 am

anyone else other than wake*

FakeGod · Post Post #1684 (isolation #96) » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:57 am

Didn't you realize that that theory was impossible?

Scum cannot fake a neighborhood by themselves, since they wouldn't flip "

Neighbor

".

If the setup included an all-scum neighborhood, then that's a different story, but I have never seen that happen.

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:20 am

There is nothing wrong with lynching a un cc'd PR that isn't confirmable.

Now, tracker

IS

confirmable, but only by getting a guilty or outing a town PR. (latter is more likely at this stage of the game)

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:23 am

In post 1708, Csareo wrote:And wake is right. Boonskies hasn't been CC'd, and there is no reason to be voting him right now.

There is so many things wrong with this statement.

For one, have you heard of Mafia Tracker?

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:25 am

In post 1722, Wake1 wrote:FG, do you think the unCC'd Tracker should be lynched today?

Independent of meta, Boon's play is nothing of what I would expect from a Town Investigative PR, and I'd believe that he is lying about being a tracker.

But number of meta defense has risen, and I'm in the process of sorting through them.

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:31 am

In post 1685, Csareo wrote:That relies on the premise that scum think they're going to be lynched.
Faking a neighborhood is 100% possible, there just isn't any proof.

Pray tell me, why on earth would scum_TTH claim neighbor on page 1 expressing suspicion on her buddy, and RUN HIM UP TO EXTENDED L-1, IF SHE'S FULLY AWARE HIS FLIP WILL LEAD TO HER DOOM?

That's borderline playing against their win con.

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:32 am

In post 1726, Wake1 wrote:I am having a difficult time reading FG.

That's nice.

I think you're easy to read in this game.

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:34 am

Then they're taking an unnecessary gamble.

They would be doing something that lowers their chance of winning, without any compensation.

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:36 am

In post 1730, Wake1 wrote:
In post 1728, FakeGod wrote:
In post 1726, Wake1 wrote:I am having a difficult time reading FG.

That's nice.

I think you're easy to read in this game.

Oh?

Did I mistype?

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:38 am

Solid town.

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:47 am

By meta.

I was scum with you before, and this is a vastly different style you're employing.

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:54 am

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=31540

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:59 am

Please don't ask for reasons if they mean little to you, Wake.

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 12:28 pm

In post 1740, Wake1 wrote:So, which wagon will you jump on and why?

The default leading wagon is Boons at the moment, and will be the lynch if no one makes a move.

I think that Boon's play doesn't match his claim, and that he should be lynched,

and be taught a lesson to not play like a VI if he's an investigative PR.

I also think maybe I should just let the BBT wagon go through

and see how much skill Csar and his gang has behind their arrogance.

Unfortunately

, I'm not here to pass judgments, or to teach people a lesson. --- I'm here to catch scum.

I honestly cannot believe that the players here were stubborn enough to generate only 1 real wagon in 50+ pages before my arrival. Csareo wagon was obviously just a preservation effort led by BBT. (you can tell by the way it disintegrated)

Now, I doubt that Csareo_scum would go out of his way to piss people off and lead a bloody lynch against a town. BBT's alignment I am less sure on, but I'm inclined to use the tool mod gave us to sort him out, namely the

neighborhood

. If the mod is allowing total access in quoting out of the neighborhood, then it would be silly to throw a weapon like that away from town's POV. This means BBT lynch is unacceptable d1.

Boons push led to what I thought was a caught scum trying to fakeclaim his way out. Apparently large number of Boon defenders rose to the occasion,

to my annoyance

, which made me less sure on the Boons case, because I was unfamiliar with the his meta.

Now, I know what the

textbook play is

. It would be

to lynch Boons's tracker claim

. Time is running out, and with a large number of players death-locked in their vote against BBT, it would be difficult to land a scum lynch without them bussing. (btw scum has no reason to bus right now)

And here Wake asks me which wagon I should join. Oh,

how should I answer him

?

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 12:38 pm

In post 1626, FakeGod wrote:Anatole,

between Dougal and Jagged, which one is a better alternative lynch?

In post 1627, Anatole Kuragin wrote:jagged

This is what I'm looking at as alternative at the moment.

Please give me your input if you're town.

If you're scum, self-vote please.

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 12:50 pm

In post 1749, Csareo wrote:Fakegod made it clear he will hammer boonskies.

Would you hammer boons if it means no lynch otherwise?

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 1:00 pm

In post 1754, Csareo wrote:
Who I scum read is dependent on your flip.

Csar isn't confident in his scumread on BBT.

He hasn't been for awhile now.

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 1:02 pm

In post 1759, Boonskiies wrote:This is a horrible comment. I get lynched due to time restrictions, we lose two town members after the night phase ends.

...

You do realize that I'm right now going against every goddamn textbook ever written and trying to find a way for you to live, right?

Please don't get in my way. Thanks.

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 1:03 pm

In post 1762, Csareo wrote:
I'm absolutely confident in it.

Nope.

Your refusal to place your life on the line in your read proved that wrong pages ago.

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 1:05 pm

In post 1768, Csareo wrote:
In post 1766, FakeGod wrote:
In post 1762, Csareo wrote:
I'm absolutely confident in it.

Nope.

Your refusal to place your life on the line in your read proved that wrong pages ago.

Because I think that is counter productive and scum motivated. But sure, at this point I'll self vote if we lynch BBT.

I'll need that in bold and format.

Same deal as the one I gave you.

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 1:11 pm

In post 1471, FakeGod wrote:Sign it.

"I, Csareo, will self-vote immediately and permanently if BBT flips town."

In bold, please.

Follow the format.

I don't want you trying to worm your way out by saying "I didn't specify when and how long I was going to self-vote".

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 1:16 pm

You better be damn right about this.

VOTE: BlueBloodedToffee

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 1:22 pm

In post 1781, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I don't need 24 hours. I would like at least 12 from now though. Just so I can check the thread when I wake up in the morning.

Anyone who hammers before 12 hours from now on will be auto-lynched.

But you will be hammered at end of the 12 hours without exception.

Good night.

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 1:24 pm

Intent to hammer is meaningless if you're asleep.

12 hours.

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 1:25 pm

In post 1788, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:What I'm saying is, I won't be lynched 12 hours from now if nobody else joins my wagon/states intent to.

I feel like my hand is being forced here.

It's a deadline lynch.

All of our hands are forced here.

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 1:27 pm

In post 1792, Csareo wrote:
Boonskies could be lynched just as easily

Then, I would eat my hat.

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 1:29 pm

Unvote

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 1:30 pm

You're claiming Mason and a Neighbor?

Do you have two separate PTs?

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 1:33 pm

Please quote your mason thread pregame talk.

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 1:34 pm

Without revealing your partner(s), obviously.

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 1:34 pm

Do you have any crumbs?

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 1:43 pm

In post 1802, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Post #1 (ISO) » Sat Sep 06, 2014 8:25 am
Hey .......,

Any thoughts on how to start the day?

Post #2 (ISO) » Sat Sep 06, 2014 11:47 am
In case you don't get a chance to reply before game start; I am also a neighbour with TellTaleHeart. I don't know if this means she is town or not though, so it's something to keep an eye out for.

Post #4 (ISO) » Sat Sep 06, 2014 1:11 pm
No, night only.

I know, it's strange. Makes me think TTH could be scum already. I won't be mentioning to her that I'm mason with you.

Post #5 (ISO) » Sat Sep 06, 2014 1:19 pm
I'm considering proposing to her that I think you're scum at end of D1 and seeing how she reacts to that.

Post #6 (ISO) » Sat Sep 06, 2014 1:25 pm
I'm also going to act like I've just assumed she is town

Post #9 (ISO) » Sat Sep 06, 2014 8:54 pm
I don't know whether TTH just slipped to me in the neighbour thread.

I have asked mod if I can paste the quotes in here. It looks like she was replying to somebody else.

I think you should try and tackle her today, see where it goes.

Post #11 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2014 9:00 am
Hmm, maybe not. Will be worth keeping an eye on though.

Give me the missing quotes.

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 1:44 pm

In post 1808, Green Crayons wrote:
In post 1805, Csareo wrote:
In post 1800, FakeGod wrote:Without revealing your partner(s), obviously.

Why not? A mason confirms his partner as town. A mason would explain a lot, including the staticity of his wagon.

lol

Look at what you're saying is town, FG. Just look at it.

Being town does not make one proficient.

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 1:52 pm

What are you even asking, Csar?

Masons don't come in singlets.

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 1:55 pm

In post 1831, Csareo wrote:
In post 1828, FakeGod wrote:What are you even asking, Csar?

Masons don't come in singlets.

Usually a mason recruits other townies. There is almost never two masons in the same game.
One mason will recruit a player during the night phase, and if they're town, they can talk in private.
If one is scum, the mason is killed.

This isn't how masons work at all.

Not on this site.

You should go read the wiki.

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 1:57 pm

Can you post the post 10?

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 2:06 pm

I believe BBT's claim.

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 2:07 pm

Tracker makes sense in a game with Masons.

Dougal or Jagged is today's play.

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 2:08 pm

In post 1857, Boonskiies wrote:@BBT - Rufflig.

Also, if you truly are town, do you not see why it is beneficial to not lynch me and let me take the NK for the night? If I am lynched, you are guaranteed to be NK'd now, leaving your partner's mason claim available to scum.

You're not getting lynched today.

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 2:09 pm

In post 1861, Csareo wrote:Urgh, now he's taking my pride hostage.
What a shameful jackass. He acts incompetent 99% of the game and has the most unusual of claims up to this point.
The only reason to believe it is that he copied and pasted it with ease.

Don't let your pride ruin this game.

Unvote please.

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 2:11 pm

This is rather shocking turn of events.

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 2:12 pm

BBT, please stop goading Csar.

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 2:13 pm

In post 1868, Csareo wrote:
In post 1866, FakeGod wrote:This is rather shocking turn of events.

Which is why it's probably bullshit.

It's next to impossible to fake a second PT as he presented it.

You know this.

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 2:15 pm

In post 1873, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I would also like to lynch Csareo.

I seriously doubt he's scum.

He looks like stubborn town player who thought he was right entire game only to have his gameview shattered in front him.

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 2:18 pm

In post 1877, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I'm actually quite pissed that I almost managed to get through D1 without claiming and had to claim with a couple of days to go.

I think you should've claimed earlier.

It would have broken the stalemate wide open, and may have led to something productive before I arrived.

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 2:18 pm

Vote: Jagged

Don't be daft.

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 2:21 pm

Csareo, don't let pride ruin this game.

BBT, stop goading him.

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 2:24 pm

In post 1891, Csareo wrote:I swear by god almighty, BBT is not town. Pride has nothing to do with it.
And it wouldn't kill us to have him flip, of all people.

D1 is

absolutely

the wrong day to try a desperation lynch on a mason claim.

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 2:25 pm

Mason Neighbor...

Unbelievable.

Who in NRG let this through?

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 2:27 pm

In post 1900, Csareo wrote:I would like to know the mason partner.

Go through the ISOs and do it yourself.

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 2:29 pm

TTH is not in the best of positions any more.

I predict that our tracker will be shot tonight.

Nevertheless, make sure you relay everything from your mason PT to neighborhood PT and vice-versa.

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 2:30 pm

Stop the insults.

You're putting yourself at risk of modkill.

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 2:31 pm

BBT, stop goading him.

Go to sleep already.

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 2:33 pm

In post 1909, FakeGod wrote:BBT, stop goading him.

Go to sleep already.

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 2:34 pm

Are you guys 10 years old?

Show some professionalism.

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 2:35 pm

In post 1912, FakeGod wrote:
In post 1909, FakeGod wrote:BBT, stop goading him.

Go to sleep already.

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 2:37 pm

BBT, can you full claim your role name?

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 2:40 pm

Alright.

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 3:03 pm

In post 1927, Green Crayons wrote:
@FG:
what's your theory about why a tracker is more likely given the mason/neighbor setup?

You said that it was more likely, but didn't say why.

Masons are very strong and confirmable town power.

Given a Mason claim and no information on the scum power, I would expect a weaker investigative PR, such as a Tracker.

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 3:08 pm

In post 1928, Green Crayons wrote:Also:

In post 1884, Green Crayons wrote:
In post 1881, FakeGod wrote:
Vote: Jagged

Don't be daft.

Because: ____

Reasons:

Jagged has shown himself as not an avid poster, and I doubt that will improve as the time go on, and therefore he will be comparatively harder to read.
Because Jagged has been mostly pursuing one and only one scumread at a time, which suggests a defensive play, which benefits scum more than town.
Because that's what Anatole suggested between Jagged and Dougal lynch, and I want to do a litmus test on Anatole.

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 3:09 pm

Do you have a better idea?

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 3:44 pm

I'm aware that lurker tell is a weak tell.

However, there is a notable difference from the usual lurker tell:

his precedessor

.

GreyICE also lurked, managing a total of 10 posts before replacing out.

Because there are two independent players who lurked in the same slot, I would guess that lurking is stemming from the role, rather than the playstyle.

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 3:56 pm

In post 1935, Green Crayons wrote:My alternative would be either TTH or Dougal.

You should start the wagon.

I would be interested in seeing where it goes.

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 4:19 pm

In post 1944, Wake1 wrote:
See, folks, this is why I continue to poke and prod for the answers I need.

You contributed to the push that led to our Mason outing.

Please do not be mistaken that you did the right thing.

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 4:25 pm

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 5:13 pm

Wake, you were part of the push that forced him to claim.

It wouldn't be enough even if you were to apologize for your bad play.

Do not pretend you did the right thing.

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 5:18 pm

Speculations on protective roles isn't healthy.

Please refrain from doing so.

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 5:19 pm

Boons.

What did I just say?

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 5:21 pm

You're wrong.

He had no choice, and you're responsible for it.

Town is in a worse position than it was before.

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 5:21 pm

In post 1964, Wake1 wrote:
He had a choice in the matter. He chose to claim. He chose to claim at L1. L1 is the time to claim if you think you don't want to die.

That isn't a choice.

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 5:23 pm

In post 1964, Wake1 wrote:My play wasn't bad. It wasn't bad at all. If it's bad then everyone who gets a suspicious player to claim PR at L1 is guilty of bad play.

He wasn't suspicious.

7 out of 12 people were able to correctly read his alignment, and you are not one of them.

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 5:25 pm

He wasn't scummy. It wasn't by his choice that he reached L-1.

You were among the people who have read him incorrectly.

It is your fault that he had to claim.

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 5:26 pm

In post 1970, Boonskiies wrote:What's toDay's play?

You should go read.

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 5:28 pm

Drifting?

What do you mean?

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 5:29 pm

In post 1968, Wake1 wrote:So, again,
what are you doing
?

I'm trying to teach you to be a better player.

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 5:33 pm

I'm not trying to be elitist, Wake.

I'm sincere.

FakeGod · Fri Sep 26, 2014 5:36 pm

I'm rather offended.

FakeGod · Sat Sep 27, 2014 4:52 am

TTH, you were never a distraction.

Your claim was unnecessary.

FakeGod · Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:04 am

In post 1990, Csareo wrote:
In post 1974, FakeGod wrote:
In post 1968, Wake1 wrote:So, again,
what are you doing
?

I'm trying to teach you to be a better player.

TBH, I think you're not as good as you think you are.
Like many others, I'm scum reading you, and if I were scum (and you were town), I would see you as an easy mislynch on D3.
I'm simply letting your bullshit slide on account of me scumreading BBT.

This isn't a matter of proficiency, as you claim.

I had Wake as my scum partner before, and we achieved a perfect win together.

I thought he was a fine person if a bit rough, but he is a very polarizing figure in the site, and many people have negative opinions about him.

As his friend, or at least his acquaintance, I'm genuinely interested in helping him improve. Not necessarily in becoming a better scumhunter, but in becoming a more pleasant person to play this game with.

FakeGod · Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:08 am

In post 2018, TellTaleHeart wrote:
In post 2007, TellTaleHeart wrote:FakeGod, could you please expound on your Anatole read?

FakeGod, I think it would be
really
helpful if you did this.

I think that Anatole townread needs to see the light of day. That's the only way you can really evaluate it: articulate it and see if it's tenable.

I have rather weak townread on Anatole, and I'm trying to strengthen it via Jagged lynch.

FakeGod · Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:10 am

What gave you the impression that I wanted to lynch TTH, BBT?

FakeGod · Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:13 am

Because she's town and there are better lynches?

Just because someone's Vengeful, doesn't mean you have to lynch them...

FakeGod · Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:15 am

BBT, are you aware of the even-number, odd-number setup problem?

Utilizing TTH's ability will most likely rob a town lynch.

FakeGod · Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:16 am

In post 2033, Wake1 wrote:
In post 2030, FakeGod wrote:
Because she's town
and there are better lynches?

Just because someone's Vengeful, doesn't mean you have to lynch them...

HEY. You don't know that!

I'm rather convinced.

Scum do not claim vengeful near the deadline asking to be lynched.

FakeGod · Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:22 am

In post 2038, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:OK, well I don't know what the fuck to do.

I can jump on a JA wagon if that's what we need.

PEdit - No, I don't know what you mean FG

There are 13 players in this game, and let's pretend that there are 3 people who are scum.

In a normal progression of lynches and NKs, we have, assuming worst possible scenario:

D1 start: 10 town, 3 scum
N1 Start: 9 town, 3 scum
D2 start: 8 town, 3 scum
N2 Start: 7 town, 3 scum
D3 Start: 6 town, 3 scum
N3 Start: 5 town, 3 scum
D4 Start: 4 town, 3 scum [LYLO]

Town lynches: 4
Scum night kills: 3

If we utilize the vengeful power, we have, assuming worst possible scenario:

D1 start: 10 town, 3 scum
N1 Start: 8 town, 3 scum
D2 start: 7 town, 3 scum
N2 Start: 6 town, 3 scum
D3 Start: 5 town, 3 scum [MYLO = No Lynch]
N3 Start: 5 town, 3 scum
D4 Start: 4 town, 3 scum [LYLO]

Town lynches: 3
Town Vengeful kill: 1
Scum night kills: 3

Observe that we end up with a same number of town controlled kills in both cases.

FakeGod · Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:24 am

Changing how, exactly?

FakeGod · Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:24 am

What would she gain by doing this if she was scum?

FakeGod · Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:35 am

I'm here to, once again, emphasize that not utilizing TTH's power cost us nothing.

FakeGod · Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:40 am

This isn't productive.

Please stop.

FakeGod · Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:44 am

In post 2094, TellTaleHeart wrote:
In post 2089, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Flubber or Dougal could be a good shot.

^FakeGod, what do you think about this?

I'd say Green Canyon is a much better shot, if you're going for style.

massive is probably your most sensible shot though.

FakeGod · Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:44 am

In post 2095, Wake1 wrote:Hm. More things to punch holes in it seems.

Will be back later. FG, your current read on me? (Want to keep an eye on you.)

I already answered this.

Solid town.

FakeGod · Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:46 am

In post 2099, Jagged Appliance wrote:So FakeGod, are you against using TTH's ability?

Yep.

FakeGod · Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:48 am

In post 2101, TellTaleHeart wrote:GreenCrayons? Why do you say that name, FakeGod?

I was only half serious.

FakeGod · Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:49 am

In post 2103, Wake1 wrote:
In post 2097, FakeGod wrote:
In post 2095, Wake1 wrote:Hm. More things to punch holes in it seems.

Will be back later. FG, your current read on me? (Want to keep an eye on you.)

I already answered this.

Solid town.

We know.

I'll be asking periodically to keep a finger on that pulse.

I think you're being rather anti-town, though!!!

FakeGod · Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:50 am

In post 2106, Jagged Appliance wrote:@FakeGod, You still want to lynch me?

Yep.

FakeGod · Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:52 am

In post 2107, Wake1 wrote:FG, BBT questions your solid town read of me.

Let's see what you do next.

He was locked in a death-wagon for majority of the day, knowing that he could get out any time via his claim but brave enough to hold out long as he did.

I think it's not a stretch of imagination to think that BBT may hold grudges against people who desperately wanted him dead.

But I digress.

FakeGod · Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:52 am

In post 2109, Wake1 wrote:
In post 2105, FakeGod wrote:
In post 2103, Wake1 wrote:
In post 2097, FakeGod wrote:
In post 2095, Wake1 wrote:Hm. More things to punch holes in it seems.

Will be back later. FG, your current read on me? (Want to keep an eye on you.)

I already answered this.

Solid town.

We know.

I'll be asking periodically to keep a finger on that pulse.

I think you're being rather anti-town, though!!!

I'll have your elaboration for analysis and future use, please.

You laughed at me when I tried to help you.

I do not forget so easily.

FakeGod · Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:56 am

In post 2111, Jagged Appliance wrote:@FakeGod. 'k. Do you want to expand on those reasons? So far I have, lurking and to get a better read on Anatole. Anything more?

Do you have a better idea?

You have only one scumread at a time, and your last scumread, Boons, is not up for lynch today.

FakeGod · Sat Sep 27, 2014 8:53 am

In post 2119, The Rufflig wrote:
In post 2096, FakeGod wrote:I'd say Green Canyon is a much better shot, if you're going for style.

massive is probably your most sensible shot though.

No!

Would you care to explain why you would like to see either of them shot?

I rather not see either of them shot.

I rather not her use her ability in the first place. I thought made my stance on the matter quite clear?

It's certainly not pro-town to encourage her to utilize her ability.

FakeGod · Sat Sep 27, 2014 8:56 am

@TTH: Vengeful townie by itself isn't really a pro-town role outside of a 3p LyLo.

Your optimal strategy as a vengeful townie is to reach 3p LyLo without claiming.

FakeGod · Sat Sep 27, 2014 9:00 am

Did you read my explanation on why using the vengeful town's ability does not grant town another kill?

FakeGod · Sat Sep 27, 2014 9:04 am

In post 2128, Wake1 wrote:
In post 2126, FakeGod wrote:Did you read my explanation on why using the vengeful town's ability does not grant town another kill?

Who is this directed towards?

Directed to Wake

FakeGod · Sat Sep 27, 2014 9:12 am

Town does not get an extra kill if TTH uses her ability.

FakeGod · Sat Sep 27, 2014 9:14 am

No, I mean a kill.

Town loses a lynch, actually.

FakeGod · Sat Sep 27, 2014 9:20 am

Jagged's current suspect list is one geared toward his own survival.

Here is one he gave before he came under pressure.

In post 1114, Jagged Appliance wrote:
I reread the thread, here are my reads:

Town:

Flubber
Wake
Green Crayons
Anatole
BBT

Null:

Omph
Rufflig
massive
Boon
TTH
Csareo

Scum:

Doogal

You will note that certain major differences.