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I'm not in a hurry.-
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I was willing to compromise-lynch her yesterday on the basis of SpyreX' read. Would be very reluctant to make that kind of compromise on a town read. So no, not particularly townreading her.-
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I'm having to remind myself that you're now the player I most wanted to lynch yesterday. :/-
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I'm bitter about the ABR lynch and my hand in it, and I want to blame it all on you.In post 1302, Grimgroove wrote:
I'm sure you know of a way to discern between the two possible scenarios. Don't let me down.In post 1285, fferyllt wrote:I know from our one prior game together that bad reads plus heavy pressure happen in your town game, but doing that accidentally as town leaves room for purposeful mislynches as scum.
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A joke with an undercurrent of truth. Interactions are usually how I shake off concerns if they're misplaced.In post 1304, Grimgroove wrote:
Not sure if you meant that as a joke, but given you had an entire nightstage to get over that, I don't think the proclaimed sentiment that your bitterness will be over in a few hours is genuine.In post 1303, fferyllt wrote:I'm bitter about the ABR lynch and my hand in it, and I want to blame it all on you.
I'll probably get past that in a few hours.-
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And, that was an acknowledgement that my concerns have at least a partially flawed basis in that I'm not happy with my own thought processes and decisions right before nightfall.-
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I didn't think the lynch was well supported and I would not have voted him outside the context of preventing no lynch given the cases presented and my own read of the slot while SK was active. As usual IME, a last minute compromise lynch wound up on a town player. I'm never happy about mislynches.In post 1307, Grimgroove wrote:I find your self-criticism misplaced, given the circumstances of the lynch.
I provided pretty compelling arguments, I forced you into that specific compromise and time was running out. The only alternative you had was a no-lynch. The only ones who really are to blame for that lynch are SleepyKrew, Aeronaut and Albert B. Rampage as far as I'm concerned.
Blaming me would be a more logical thing to do if you don't think the Albert B. Rampage lynch was called for.
So fferyllt: why are you so hard on yourself?
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I would have argued against the lynch more. I didn't put a lot of time into that because the slot was basically inactive.In post 1310, Grimgroove wrote:So what would you improve exactly? Let's assume we go back in time and we find ourselves right back in that situation. What would you have done differently?
I agree with the conclusion. I'm not sure about the line of thinking.Also, feel free to answer me question to Yates, as I noticed you agreed with his line of thinking.
If I had asked this question, I'd prioritize whose answer I most want, because whoever answers it first takes a little heat off later answerers.
So, I'm asking you if you want my answer first before I answer you.-
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What's your read of SpireX?In post 1321, Grimgroove wrote:I think she's town.
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I'm pretty sure CTD is going to want to lynch Plum unless his thoughts have changed significantly since day 2.-
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He didn't?
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I had a strong independent town read on notsci from the outset. I was unsure of SpyreX because I felt like he was aggressively buddying me during the first few days of day 1 and it eventually made me a little paranoid. CDB actually defused that with the kuribo flowchart, but I recovered the town read on my own because the back and forth bouts of paranoia between notsci and SpireX looked town-on-town. Whether a notsci town flip actually points strongly to town SpireX may be debatable (I say it does point that way), but the more important consideration to me is what would scum think? Continued or increased paranoia between those two could help increase the in-thread noise level. And the confirmation of notsci-town, given notsci backed off his own scum read yesterday makes SpireX's concerns about the neighborhood look even more like town paranoia.
I've agreed with many of SpireX' reads, with the exception of CDB and notsci. Plum for me is more of a null but that's probably in part because I devalue VCA a little.-
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Yates, I would also like to see your cases.-
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Would like to see those cases.In post 1349, Yates wrote:
How confident are you on this read?In post 1341, SpyreX wrote:Garmr is town.-
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I'm not interested in hammering without more input from some players, including you.In post 1353, Yates wrote:
There's plenty of time in the day for that. OR - Plum gets hammered, flips scum, and I can spend my time building a case on someone less obvious?In post 1350, fferyllt wrote:Would like to see those cases.
But, I am interested in hammering.
So, cases probably suit your interests?
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The last time I decided I like you, you were scum :/In post 1356, Yates wrote:
It's possible I'm posturing, yes?In post 1355, fferyllt wrote:So, cases probably suit your interests?-
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This post seems pretty inadequate given the game state.In post 1368, Plum wrote:
So nu, why are you hunting me?In post 1359, Yates wrote:
What can I say? I'm a likeable guy regardless of alignment. Unless I'm hunting you. Right, Plum and Garmr?In post 1358, fferyllt wrote:The last time I decided I like you, you were scum :/-
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It's my way of asking you for a defense and maybe a case on someone you think should be lynched today.-
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That's a defense.In post 1372, Plum wrote:A defense against what, exactly? I've said all I think there is to say to CTD's points - if you disagree, kindly point out what, if anything, I should address about his case that you'd find relevant. Peabody is convinced that I'm scum because apparently all the people I've ever suspected in this game are ether flipped Town, people he's Townreading, himself, or 'easy targets'. He manages to make that basically the entire game, which seems to me like a noise/signal interpretation issue on his end. Yates suspects me because I was voting town-Brian at the end of Day 1 and him at the end of Day 2, and was off the ABR wagon, which was also on Town (and would gladly have joined it in the interests of not no-Lynching had my access been cooperative). I can't tell why he mentioned Garmr and Peabody along with me but not, say, Grimgroove or CTD (voting Town at the end of both Days). I am legitimately not sure what his case on me could possibly be, but he's acting like it's a whole lot and making a big deal about how he's hunting me.
You thought that CDB's meta examples of similar play as town to his play in this game were invalid. What made them invalid to you?-
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I'm not a he.-
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Let's worry about it today. It's likely that at least one opinion won't get expressed if we save it for day 4.
I have some concerns about Garmr. He's not striking me as scummy, but there's something off in his play.-
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If discussion doesn't pick up I'll vote sometime tomorrow.-
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Garmr's reaction to the 2nd kill on day 2 bothered me.
The main problem I have with Plum's play is that it seems to have no objective. Not in a town wandering around lost way, but more like which wagon went through on day 2 didn't really matter.
I dunno. Her play style is hard for me to process.
Intent to hammer-
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You don't want Plum to have the opportunity to claim?In post 1423, Garmr wrote:You can hammer now. fferylt-
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So you were leaning town on Grimgroove/YYR on day 1 leading up to the Brian lynch.
Then, based on the Empire flip and after finding he didn't go anywhere on day 2 you're now scumreading him.In post 747, Plum wrote:Sorry for the inactivity. Didn't manage to get a post in Friday afternoon, Friday night/Saturdays always bad for me because Jewish Sabbath. Aaaaaanyway.
Better than YYR/Grimgroove (have skimmed ahead); Brian is somewhat scummier to my reading (esp. given Grimgroove reads Townish to me). May be the best viable option, especially given that the chances of him looking much better and not being a constant is-he-or-isn't-he debate as the game goes on don't seem particularly high, either.In post 627, SleepyKrew wrote:Plum, thoughts on Brian lynch?
Pretty meh on Peabody, to be honest. Grimgroove feels great - high, but super proactive in a catchup read. His scumhunting drive feels pretty convincing. It's something that feels lacking in Peabody's. Peabody asks a few questions little conviction; he notes a lot of people, often in the form of questions, but I'm not sure what he thinks of anyone but the couple of people (fferylt and SK, surprise surprise) he thinks look at least a little Town.
Not particularly, though I don't feel extremely confident about this game overall. I certainly didn't have time or energy this past week to do a very hard push. I really don't like the notion that a strong player shouldn't be lynched early because his scumhunting could pay dividends. The longer a strong player stays alive the more he can do for his team, but that goes whether he's Town or not; a strong scum player alive Day 3 and 4 in a game like this can be a very very dangerous beast. I didn't say much against it at the time - somewhat demoralized, I guess, and a difference of opinion that was rooted in a theory disagreement seemed unlikely to sway fferylt, for instance. I thought the wagon might yet have something in it. That's certainly not the case now. Blah.In post 663, LolWagons wrote:You don't seem too upset the wagon youre on isnt taking off anymore. Has anything changed about your read?
Going back over stuff, Peabody's second post of catching up is more of the same.
Also, also,In post 672, Peabody wrote:I don't want to waste our Day 1 lynch on a miller claim. It robs us of information for day 2. Scum can easily pass on "Yeah, this lynch should happen," instead of contributing in a meaningful way.this. Peabody, do you have a read on Brian? Have you tried to read him? At all? Your catchup notes list him once, and that's to say you're ignoring the Miller claim in reading him. Passing on trying to read him given the situation seems like even less meaningful contribution and much less accountability than the situation you describe.
I remember that game! I actually reread it around when I came back to the site shortly before this game because of the fond memoriesIn post 682, CrashTextDummie wrote:I did some reminiscing about the good old days and realized that I actually replaced into a game with Spyrex and Plum once (the latter being part of a hydra) where they were both scum and I correctly read the former and was completely snowed by the latter. I'll try to find the time to reread it. Did a very cursory glance of the two games Empire linked and don't feel confident in forming a full meta yet.
^5In post 684, ChannelDelibird wrote:Klaxons here - Blank 'explanation questions' on are the easiest to ask. Scum prefer them.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Peabody
In post 1031, Plum wrote:Hell yes.
Let's see, quick look at Empire, plus votecounts and other stuff as necessary.
Spoiler: Empire on YYR/Grimgroove and Grimgroove/YYR on Maestro/Empire
Spoiler: Empire on CDB and CDB on Maestro/Empire
Spoiler: Empire on CTD, CTD on Maestro/Empire
Don't have the energy right now to look through SK's ISO and ponder how likely it is that a Maestro buddy would criticized the early mini-wagon on him so vocally (among other potential issues that don't come to mind so readily), but. The above are roughly in the order I find them suspect based on how they related to Maestro and Empire and vice versa.
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I mean --- finding he didn't go anywhere on night 1, on day 2 you're now scumreading him.-
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Yeah, just found that. I think I was searching for YYR when I found the first posts. My bad.-
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This is trajectory.
I'm seriously sleep deprived. I need something resembling 8 hours sleep and a reread in light of her claim.-
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Meaning?In post 1444, Plum wrote:Mmmmm, trajectory.-
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Who was investigated on night 1?In post 1451, Yates wrote:In post 1450, Grimgroove wrote:To be honest, I thought it was you
Look. It's like this.
Plum is scum.
*I* am the cop.
CTD is town.
SpyreX is Town neighbor.
fferyllt is the doc.
fferyllt saved SpyreX last night as an obvious neighbor save.
Easy peasy lemon squeezy.
That leaves the remaining scum in you, Garm, and Peabody. That's why the conversation today is doing nothing.
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This is incorrect btw. I'm not doc.In post 1452, fferyllt wrote:fferyllt is the doc.
fferyllt saved SpyreX last night as an obvious neighbor save.-
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Says I wrote that, but it's quoted from Yates.-
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But, I seriously don't get the haste here.
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I have a theory about the 2nd kill being SK and who the SK would be, but I don't want to float it in case the player is the 2nd killer but is vig.
I expect anyone would conclude similarly if we continue to see either additional kills or kills that don't look scum-motivated, so I'll leave it at that for now.-
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Yeah, I did. My theory's different.In post 1462, Grimgroove wrote:Did you see my theory?-
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I've said all I'm going to say for now.-
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No.In post 1477, Yates wrote:I'm guessing this shouldn't come as much of a surprise butI'm obviously not the copand was simply trying to draw the NK. I was running on a hunch that this slot had already been investigated so any real cop would know not to cc me. I also held out bonus hope that if we had a doc they would protect me. Second night phase in a row with a missing kill so maybe it worked?
At this point I'm hoping someone checked into you [Garm], fferyllt, or Peabody.
Also, sorry about trying to frame you as the doc, fferyllt. While I have a - well -not scumread on you, I'm not 100% convinced you are Town. Like... did you pay our friend Grimm a little visit last night??
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I'm one-shot bullet-proof town. That's why I denied your calling me doc. If there's been a missing kill at least one of the two nights with one kill, then it's possible scum knew I couldn't be doc because it would require a self-protect.In post 1477, Yates wrote:I'm guessing this shouldn't come as much of a surprise butI'm obviously not the copand was simply trying to draw the NK. I was running on a hunch that this slot had already been investigated so any real cop would know not to cc me. I also held out bonus hope that if we had a doc they would protect me. Second night phase in a row with a missing kill so maybe it worked?
At this point I'm hoping someone checked into you [Garm], fferyllt, or Peabody.
Also, sorry about trying to frame you as the doc, fferyllt. While I have a - well -not scumread on you, I'm not 100% convinced you are Town. Like... did you pay our friend Grimm a little visit last night??
I hope there is a doc as well, but if not, I didn't want that possibility removed from scum consideration given your claim.-
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I dunno. x-shot? It depends on what else town has, and what scum has as well.In post 1484, Yates wrote:
How could that possibly happen? Tell me how that makes sense for balance.In post 1483, fferyllt wrote:I hope there is a doc as well...
It also depends on the nature and number of extra kills. If that was one-shot, then I'm guessing no doc.
But, if it was one shot, then the n2 and n3 kills are pretty confusing.-
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Or SK? Why would you care if scum kill an SK? And when did you start subtly hinting?In post 1474, Garmr wrote:Oh fferyllt I am going to be honest I don't have the ability to kill at night I was subtly hinting at it in my previous posts so mafia would kill me in the night phase thinking I was the Vig or SK.-
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And your concerns are?In post 1495, Yates wrote: That said? I share your concerns regarding fferyllt.-
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I'm town, and I don't think you can make a case for me being scum based on my play, because I wore my motivation on my sleeve this game, hoping to draw a night kill.In post 1506, Yates wrote:Interesting.
The reason I jumped all over Fferyllt is because *I'm* the Doc. I didn't want to announce first just in case I was wrong about Spy and he wanted to claim Doc. Low angle play but worth the shot, imo.
I never asked mod who CDB protected N1 [because it obviously didn't work] but I protected SpyreX upon replace in. What I said about why "Fferyllt" protected SpyreX is why *I* protected him. That was my way of calling my protection in case I was killed last night.
I protected CTD last night. I thought he was going to claim Cop today and was trying to throw scum off. Then I realized if *I* was thinking this, scum was probably thinking this.
I knew it was a risky gambit but I figured scum would have to try to kill the "doc" knowing I would be protected. Since I thought Fferyllt was an SK, I marked her as the doc. Her waking up alive this morning is - well - strange. Combine this with my fake Town read on fferyllt and this has me fairly convinced she's scum.
Additionally, I'm on board with Garmr's theory. It looks like a textbook scum trying to set up a mislynch play.
At this point I think we can confidently lynch Fferyllt. If the game isn't over at lynch, SpyreX is an SK so we can just knock him out tomorrow.
Vote: Fferyllt
So, I want to think I was right about the CTD slot all along.
Spyrex' kills are in alignment with his stances during the game day, so I'm pretty ok with him being the Vig.
I want to vote you purely on the basis of our abilities clashing the way they do, but with Spyrex claiming three kills, there's a kill missing even if my bullet-proof was used up. The other problem with this theory is that I don't see how scum-you can get to a win given the number of players left, especially after my flip.
So, can we talk about where the final scum lies in this set-up? I'm baffled.-
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I guess it's possible scum skipped a kill to shore up the doc claim.
My flip is going to be a problem for you if that's the case, Yates.-
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So the only real concern about your claim is how you get to LYLO after my flip. Maybe my claim was a surprise but your gambit was already in place.-
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No, if I'm lynched, your lynch priority becomes Yates. Don't mess around with oddball corner cases after you see my flip.In post 1507, Garmr wrote:Well I think a fferrylt lynch is a great idea and with a doctor,Vig and inspector we pretty much won this game. Anyway If fferrylt is somehow town we lynch CTD there is no way we can lose.
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Are you assuming that I'm lying or that both Yates and I are town?In post 1513, CrashTextDummie wrote:I have infinite bragging rights because I sent the mod a PM last night predicting all three PR claims (Peabody investigating NS and Plum, Spyrex killing Empire and NS, Yates protecting Spyrex) and I expect this PM to be posted in post-game.
Because being convinced Yates is town is kind of important to me. If he's town, I don't want to turn this into a 1v1. I want to figure out where the 3rd scum actually is.-
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You presume wrong. I'm absolutely confident that my play from my first post onward is in line with my role. And my role is BP Town. I'm a fairly transparent player as town most of the time anyway. TI went so far as to be sure that a doctor wasn't off the table in scum calculations yesterday if they had already targeted me, when as VT I would have let the assumption that I was doc lie and hope to soak up the night kill.In post 1514, Garmr wrote:Your flip I presume is scum but I wonder if you have a role FFerylt. Were you rolecop or Just vanilla scum. Maybe you were a tracker.-
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An unlimited BP would be a crazy role for town, especially if you are Doc. It sort of makes sense balance-wise due to Spyrex being multi-shot.In post 1517, Yates wrote:
Well... it's you, silly. Your BP doesn't make sense from a balance perspective. Also, why would you be 1-shot while the rest of us are standard unlimited roles?In post 1515, fferyllt wrote:I want to figure out where the 3rd scum actually is.
I know that's standard strategy.I don't think scum - down by 2 - is in a position to no kill. Last night, scum had to try for the doc [to prevent another no kill], the cop [to preserve anonymity] or - less optimally - the vig/sk for any prayer at a win. Of course, you already know this.
When I'm scum, I don't always do the expected. And I seriously doubt you do. I don't forget the Rage game where your scum team won by having one of you claim scum in thread at LYLO and lead the lynch on SK-me.
Try again. If you're town, consider the possibility that I'm what I say I am and think about where the final scum is. At the very least it gives me a chance to think about the game and possibly come up with something that will be useful for town tomorrow.-
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BECAUSE MISSING KILLS.In post 1518, Yates wrote:
Then why wouldn't you do the same as a 1-shot BP? This also does not add up. Your job as BP is to draw a NK. Your play flies in the face of this. Why *NOT* let scum think you are the doc? Heck, why not just CLAIM doc?In post 1516, fferyllt wrote:I went so far as to be sure that a doctor wasn't off the table in scum calculations yesterday if they had already targeted me, when as VT I would have let the assumption that I was doc lie and hope to soak up the night kill.
You are caught scum. Your claim is quite obviously fake. And your play yesterday - especially late in the day - is enough to incriminate you.
If I have been targeted, then I CAN'T be doc in their calculations. Scum would know that if they targeted me.-
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I'm really serious here. I'm almost certain to be lynched. I don't want to be screaming for your head on a pike tomorrow if you're town. I've been on the receiving end of that as town, and it was crippling the next game day.
So show some town flexibility and indulge me in the thought experiment.-
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Grim, maybe. maaaybe. I was waffling on him overnight given which wagon he was on.In post 1522, Garmr wrote:
You could of targeted the same player it's that simple.In post 1521, fferyllt wrote:
BECAUSE MISSING KILLS.In post 1518, Yates wrote:
Then why wouldn't you do the same as a 1-shot BP? This also does not add up. Your job as BP is to draw a NK. Your play flies in the face of this. Why *NOT* let scum think you are the doc? Heck, why not just CLAIM doc?In post 1516, fferyllt wrote:I went so far as to be sure that a doctor wasn't off the table in scum calculations yesterday if they had already targeted me, when as VT I would have let the assumption that I was doc lie and hope to soak up the night kill.
You are caught scum. Your claim is quite obviously fake. And your play yesterday - especially late in the day - is enough to incriminate you.
If I have been targeted, then I CAN'T be doc in their calculations. Scum would know that if they targeted me.
I can't see why scum would have targeted NotSci. Doing so confirmed Spyrex as a likely town neighbor.-
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Who do you lynch tomorrow when I flip Town BP? And why?In post 1524, Garmr wrote:Town has won fferylt what don't you understand if your town why are you worried.
And if you're wrong again then where to next?
I hope you're right that this is autowin, but I think there are a few too many question marks. And I think that because I know my role.-
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You're right, provided Spyrex has kills left.In post 1526, Garmr wrote:Spyrex can kill yates if you flip town and if yates is somehow also town we lynch CTD it's that simple.
And yates, if town can help Peabody get off one more investigation.
I have a question for the normal set up experts. A mini normal game is allowed one non-normal role. Would a neighbor/vig account for that, or would that be considered a normal role?-
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Ok.In post 1530, Yates wrote:
If YOU are Town, explain to me how this game makes sense.In post 1520, fferyllt wrote:If you're town, consider the possibility that I'm what I say I am
SpyreX claims Vig. I think we all agree that his claim matches up with the kills. Also, sitting right in front of us is the fact that if he is actually an SK, it seems unlikely he would claim Vig today since he would be the obvious target tomorrow after you flip scum. At the very least, we know for certainty that he is NOT scum. No doubt scum tried killing him after the NS flip. Kill the obv Town. Except, whoops! Yates comes in and doc protects him N2.
CTD? As I said, I don't believe scum would have no killed last night. Unless scum also targeted Grim - a dude that would have been easy mislynch bait today - he was last night's scum kill target. I know this because there was only 1 kill and I protected him last night.
Is Peabody fake claiming cop? I suppose it's possible. I took this into consideration when I asked him those questions in my first [second?] post of the day. Of course, that was before we had all claims on the table. So, tell me how Town wins with a vig, a doc, and a 1-shot BP. Feels like we need an investigative role, don't you think? Two saves means I'm a proven and effective doc. Two kills N1 means Vig/SK is on the table. That leaves your claim as the one in question.
Is Garm a GF? You can't assume that until other options have been exhausted. And, as he has pointed out, this game is pretty much in the bag.
What angle am I missing? Town vs Scum vs SK tomorrow? My save tonight could foul that up. Scum and SpyreX [SK in this scenario] would BOTH have to try to shoot me. Plus, you flipping Town and a non scum kill by "vig" would seal the win for scum since he would be the OBVIOUS lynch tomorrow. Doesn't seem like a smart play by SpyreX.
I am going to flip town, so town PRs are going to have to figure out their best moves knowing that either
- garmr is a GF (which I've been contemplating in the back of my mind, but I feel like both a miller and a GF would really punish the cop).
- yates is not a doc
- CTD is scum
Of your other options, I think Peabody cop is confirmed both by his play and by the presence of a miller. And Spyrex has been town to me since mid day 1, his kill targets make sense for vig (though I disagree that notsci looked scum), and he's claimed his kills.
I think I'm done, unless somebody has a question for me.-
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Brian Skies, lynched day 1. Instead of Empire. :/In post 1533, Yates wrote:What miller?-
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How the fuck could you forget this?In post 1535, Garmr wrote:who's the miller and no i'm not the godfather -_-
Yates gets a pass because of when he replaced in.-
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Garmr's potential as scum just raised a few points IMO. One of the major themes of day 1 and he doesn't remember. It must not have mattered to him on day 1.-
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There's no attempt at wriggling out. I'm not going to vote Yates and even try to force a 1v1 because I'm not convinced he's scum.
I will have questions in post game about if/how I could have played a BP role better, though.
I consider myself to be 1 vote away from inno child. All of my concerns will be the concerns of confirmed town with another vote.
Ask questions. I'm not the brightest bulb. I'm not the dimmest bulb either.-
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