Mini 839 -- Mafia Invasion! (Game Over)

[popsofctown]

Hey guys, i'm replacing for..... someone who posted like a godfather and made me check my role pm twice :0. Not sure if Vi wants me to answer the survey after she spoiled all the answers.

I think TMJ's sheeping is the best material we have right now. It fits the mold of newbscum i've seen before, the reasoning looks pretty reverse engineered and i think he's just following. Most of the other reasons for voting my slot can hardly be faulted.

[popsofctown]

yay...

unvote

vote Y.C.

I'm getting "web page has expired" messages hindering me from multiquoting in any sort of convenient fashion on htis laptop with a crappy mouse. I'm just going to ask forgiveness and say the next two posts after this don't expound on Tjoe Min Ja's unjustified vote. He doesn't expect anyone to ask for justification from him, but newbtown would usually share reasons more voluntarily than newbscum. He has to be pressed for reasons that sound like they were reverse engineered... attacking Vi doesn't seem like something that would seal the deal in a townie player's mind, unless he thought you were town, but he doesn't in particular. It looks like a constructed reason, not a natural one.

I understand if i get lynched here, but i want my "townie time capsule" message (there ought to be a name for those) to be "Lynch TMJ". I think he's scum, and I really don't even need much more to go off of. Have i yet to

unvote, vote: TMJ

?

[popsofctown]

Yeah, it's just too much of a mirror i just saw in a recent newbie game.


But what's up with unvoting me Vi? You always think i'm scum or SK..

[popsofctown]

Yeah, it's just too much of a mirror i just saw in a recent newbie game.

Link

por favor

But what's up with unvoting me Vi? You always think i'm scum or SK..

So... you...

WANT

me to vote you?
And the time I thought you were an SK, you were... um... an Unnecessarily Compulsive Vigilante Neutral Survivor.

Cruciare, could you elaborate on TMJ's apparent newbishness?
Is jammer still an issue?
Is it more important to hear from "certain people" or to hammer?

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 14&start=0
Arxym is mirror here.


I do want you to vote me Vi. It makes me feel loved. "How sweet it is, to be loved by you...".

After that play, if i don't die today i die tomorrow or the next day. What's important is the hunting i can manage before my wax is all melted and my flame put out.

This is where i would put in a few words for people besides TMJ, but no one really sticks out. I should do a reread, but replacing into dead man walking slots really puts a damper on the motivation for those sorts of things.

[popsofctown]

8. Why are you filling this survey out?
just wanna see people's response

Is acting without a very clearly defined protown agenda. That's a red flag.


I'll try to do what scumunting i can but guys, it's a 6 page game.

[popsofctown]

Mmkay, Reck, you seems to be only looking at idividual facts....and ignoring them when they're all together. Somethings on its own might not be enough, yes, but whn paired with other things...a case forms.
Your disregard for this has made me suspicious of you.
Also, I may be misinterphiritng what you said, and correct me of I'm wrong, but...why shouldn't people post their opinions? There's facts, sure, but opinions are what drive people to vote. They're what weed out the scum from the town, in the end. In debate class, the facts are important to swaying the judges. But if you don't use your own opinions, your own drive to sway them, they won't declare your side the winner in the end.

Vote: xRECKONERx

Because without opinions on the facts, the facts are useless.

Probably should have gotten a link instead, but hey, i like to think that i don't care enough to construct that and ought to have lived here long enough to have trust.



Also

I'm not taking pops seriously.

Fixed.

[popsofctown]

I latch on to other suspicious people whenever I'm at L-1, not only when i'm at scum L-1. It's protown to do that, I'm town so i don't want me to be the lynch, i want whoever i think most scummy to be the lynch. It's like you're using it against me that TMJ had the second highest number of votes, but that's actually the scummiest player in this game, and that's who i think should die. Porken is a distant second since his play seems disconnected and void of a town agenda... yes that's vague, that's why he's a distant third.


I don't see how anyone can defend TMJ. Is what he does pro-town? If it's not protown, it's unreadable or scummy. If it's scummy, we should lynch him. If it's unreadable, you still have to lynch him, he's a killa 9, and eventually you're going to have to err on the side of the noose because you can't figure out his alignment. Like... I don't get people saying, "let's not lynch him, because he's just an unreadable pile of goo, not scummy". You have to lynch unreadable piles of goo, they're just scummy.

If there's a reason to lynch me first, it's because Y.C was that level of anti-town idiocricy that i rarely see on someone who got a town-aligned pm. It shouldn't be because TMJ is just noise. Noise has to be lynched.

[popsofctown]

I'm not vanilla town, i'm doctor. Day 1 doctor death again.
I give up.

[popsofctown]

ok, so TMJ just skips me and other people talking about him being scummy, doesn't even begin to defend himself, and then just takes a onesided interpretation of my roleclaim as proof i'm scum.



Whatever. Just let him wallow in filth. I'm the lynch today. I can see these things coming.

[popsofctown]

I don't have to. It'll change on it's own.

[popsofctown]

*sighs*
Vi is right. I don't like it when Vi is right. I should quit trolling and do whatever i can to steer this town in the right direction for after i flip.

[popsofctown]

I don't really *get* the imaginality case, thought I am definitely starting to get the jammer case and also like afatchic 180. I still think TMJ is the scummiest player here, and am used to newbness and do not think this is newbness (i don't think you are a noob TMJ ). But the case on jammer is pretty legit. And the timing of the vote on me was indeed weird. Empty space doesn't push people over the edge on whom they think is scummy, but it would make scum boed enough to take a risk.

[popsofctown]

That's exactly what i did in the following two sentences. Don't try to paint me as a sheep scumbag.

[popsofctown]

@Porkens: I'm having a slow night, but as long as you're keeping track of it I'm fine with waiting.

@pops: Would you like to claim scum and get it over with?

I'm a mafia godfather with four roleblocks. Someone help me rolefish.

[popsofctown]

You're allowed not to get it if you'd say something about the game tjoe. anything. i mean really.

[popsofctown]

I didn't notice i was at L-1, as has been said, it was slipped into a post.

I actually thought my claim was at L-2 or so, i just saw the swirl of public opinion coming. I've seen this train a thousand times before, i know where the tracks lead. There are better indicators for the inevitability of a lynch than the vote-count.

I thought it'd feel better to have the town know i was the doctor as they lynched me, instead of telling them after. It does feel better.

In the interest of doing "real scumhunting", i reread jammer. You don't always get what you're looking for... it actually looks like he's protown. The weird timing on voting me is probably just an oddity. And he was following a rule with all his chaotic votes, voting people who have not spoken yet, i have nothing against me.

Vi is incredibly protown this game, yes, but i have no clue what a scumVi would look like. Vi is always town in my games. Usually VT. But never VI!!!

[popsofctown]

@J.D:

I reread you, you're a waffle. First the survey is scummy, then it's not, and first you have a scum read on Y.C... but then not really. Where do you stand? It really looks like scum that wants to pretend to have scum reads on either, but then doesn't want to commit and be on an dark wagon.


Is Vi scum?
Am I scum?
Why are either of us scum?
Why did you both refuse to answer the survey and neglect to make any alternative discussion? Does this game play itself? Do you think a town with nine of me would get anything done?

[popsofctown]

Will RC modkill me if I triple post?

[popsofctown]

col. 203 is too good, have been thinking the same thing.

The players who don't have the balls to lynch me after i claimed PR are likely scums.

[popsofctown]

Like TMJ, the obv scum?

I'd keep going on his case, but he doesn't post much content. Something about unvoting doesn't mean a player is scum. Ok, sure, you don't agree that's the common reaction to the roleclaim. Anything else about the game?

Btw, TMJ, there's a rule about talking about games outside of the thread, you don't do it. Unless it's a special game that allows it.

[popsofctown]

yay i are voted.

Having only one vote sucks sometimes doesn't it Vi?

[popsofctown]

It isn't what i want. Only Vi is allowed to vote me and i like it.


I'm the wrong lynch. TMJ is ridiculous obv scum who has done nothing good this whole game.

[popsofctown]

Vi wants TMJ lynch. Come on. It needs to happen.

Reach down in your heart of hearts Vi. Do i act like this as scum?

[popsofctown]

you're feeding me questions to answer and look good like "how is doc important?" That's what he means.


Doc is very important. I'll save whoever doesn't vote me. Promises <3

I'll use a die to make it fair

[popsofctown]

only people who let me live till the night are possible protect targets.

Then yes, porkens, a random number generator.

[popsofctown]

Deathrow kitty has made some very good points.

So the protects for votes thing is cancelled. Sorry to everyone who wanted in, you get a full refund.

[popsofctown]

Porkens is the most scummy other player. He behaves erratically and he seems more interested in stirring than hunting for scum. His disorganizations seem like a way to make noise rather than find scum.

[popsofctown]

I was pressed for a second most suspicious person, so i say porkens and the vague reason for it. I don't feel the need to develop a strong second cantidate until TMJ flips or i'm lynched or nightkilled anyway. After TMJ flips i have more information.

[popsofctown]

@porkens

You don't have to defend yourself from my "case". It's not even a case. I was asked for secondary suspicions.

TMJ blood is what i want and all i want.

[popsofctown]

it should be

[popsofctown]

you mean, one more time, without hanging BB codes?

[popsofctown]

RC, can i make extended bah posts? it's not like i have teammates.
bah bah

Okay, wiseguy, how'd you like a modkill to go with your death? XD