Mini 707: Cops and Robbers Mafia (Game Over)

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thanks for having me, ill read and post my thoughts in the morning

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unvote

hmm... i have some suspicions right now, but im not exactly ready to point fingers, yet.

if anyone has any questions for me, go for it.

i will most likley have a vote in tonight, when i can go home and take down some notes.

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if you cant play maybe you should seek a replacement. cuz this 2 weeks thing could just be bs to lurk and or pick and choose when you wanna jump in...

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ok well, im pretty undecided. theres a lot of stretching going on and votes with lack of substance. also due to the lack of participation from half the game im going to hold my vote untill we get to know each other a little better.

i could put a FoS at almost everybody. but the top two on my radar are mizzy and ether, but that may be because they are two of the most vocal and that leaves more chances to misinterpet. im also skeptical about mizzys attention to limited participation, it just feels like a possible defensive move. ether, immediatley buying it and defending her is questionable.

im least suspicious of GC. GC makes sense to me.

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its not exactly because they are vocal, its because they have been more vocal in less creditable subject matter which makes it hard to interpet since the ball is barley rolling. its not exactly anything specific that rubs me wrong im just observing behaviors. and im not sure how i feel about them yet.

and you, GC, are just as vocal. (congratulations, heres a cookie.) but the reason im least bothered by it is because you come across with more sound reasoning and detail. something i need to refine.

and the using real life as a way to dodge questions. hey, it may be a low, shitty tactic. but the objective is to win, and if i was scum i would use every tool at my disposal. im not trying to be unsportsman like or slanderous, but im not going to assume anyones telling the truth about anything, yet.

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Reference question for everyone: what went through your head when I accidentally unvoted in 74?

Ether: can you please rank Corporate, q21, fuzzy, GC, Tisp and Mizzy using any scale of scumminess you please.

Scum
↑
q21 - "The point here is that even were those reasons flawless why not give them when you voted? Giving reasons for a vote after the fact seems like a scummy way play" from 88 is a bullshit excuse, and it makes me nervous that I'm almost the only person who feels this way.
Corporate - You said in another thread that you hadn't played in a while, Corporate. What

is

your mafia experience? Full details.
Mizzy - bored now.
Tisp - lurkerhate, mostly.
Fuzzyman - I would have put him a bit higher before 121, but he does have opinions, so yeah.
Green Crayons - actually, I'm not really sure how to read him.
↓
Town

I'm probably not going to stick to this, obviously. Tisp, why was it Fuzzyman and me you wanted to hear from, and why did you ask about those people specifically? Do you

really

think Crywolf is in the exact same set as {Aceagain, Simpor}?

and the using real life as a way to dodge questions. hey, it may be a low, shitty tactic. but the objective is to win, and if i was scum i would use every tool at my disposal. im not trying to be unsportsman like or slanderous, but im not going to assume anyones telling the truth about anything, yet.

Yeah, but that's because you're a horrible person. (shrug)

Yes you may have contributed a little bit, but to me, being sick and studying for a very important Bio test takes precedent to this.

Why doesn't this bother you, Corporate? She actually

has

used this as a crutch, while still being active elsewhere on the site; in contrast, most of Mizzy's recent posts are still here on 707.

i didnt take it as a big deal when you unvoted. its too early for that to rub me wrong.

youre reading my other games? and im a horrible person?

why does it matter my full mafia experience? i dont have to tell every thought i have. like the fact crywolf does make me uncomfortable since he appears to be lurking. but obviously it didnt make me uncomfortable enough to rush to point that out yet.

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im not using double standards i have a fos for cry wolf as well, i just havnt brought it up cuz its not a huge deal to me. mizzys isnt either exactly though. and is it wrong for me to think meta is scummy? i think theres no valid scum tells for me here so youre just digging hard to find dirt on me. ill keep my mafia experience to myself. i dont see anything wrong with that. my jobs not to make your life easier, its to make the towns life easier. youre barking up the wrong tree.

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im not using double standards i have a fos for cry wolf as well, i just havnt brought it up cuz its not a huge deal to me. mizzys isnt either exactly though. and is it wrong for me to think meta is scummy? i think theres no valid scum tells for me here so youre just digging hard to find dirt on me. ill keep my mafia experience to myself. i dont see anything wrong with that. my jobs not to make your life easier, its to make the towns life easier.

youre barking up the wrong tree.

[corporate]

vote ether

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lol @ tisp. my lack of punctuation is anti town? seriously?
again, i have no double standard. i dont appreciate people telling me how i do and dont feel. especially after ive already stated how i feel. and how do my actions seem to counter working with the town?

and to those who dont like my vote.

tough cookies.

i vote how i want.

[corporate]

wow you guys are good. im beging to think im scum too since youre all so good at making me look at the bad guy when i havnt actually done anything except play how i want.

FoS corporate

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for his bad punctuation, attitude, and for playing the game how he wants. not how the town wants.

of course im defensive. i dont wanna be lynched when im innocent. im a little more concerned with someone who would want to lynch someone for "bad punctuation."

[corporate]

ummm... no

ive adressed the double standard. and im not willfully being unhelpful. im just playing the game, buddy. and its frustrating when people push stupid cases on me. it makes me laugh in my heart.

[corporate]

we may as well vote professor plum in the library with the wrench.

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bah.. ride the corporate train... chooo! chooooo!

there is still no real reason to vote for me.

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is there a REAL case on me? just wondering.

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several.

where is there a case with any actual substance?

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it truly is a mad mad world...

so im getting voted because i have annoying an play style. not because im actually scummy... ?

well since im going down hill anyways i might as well wifom by claming vanilla.

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and to add insult to injury if mizzy and ether would like to vote for me ill go ahead and put the final nail in my coffin. and get this rollin to N1

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^i agree

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I have a really bad feeling about this.

Corporate. Old account name, and reasons why you're on a new one instead. Now. Thank you.

umm... no

[corporate]

alright, alright ... you caught me.

my true role is the town n00b. my objective is to get lynched by my n00bish antics. once lynched, i will then go eat ice cream with patric duffy on a mountin top, while looking back on this game with a tear in my eye... asking myself where i went wrong.

and still NO.. its not important who ive been, its important who i am.

and stalling of ideas? what stalling of ideas noble paperclip man?

[corporate]

who really loses when there is ice cream and patrick duffy?

[corporate]

no, i dont want out. i want to play. the purpose of a game is to have fun. and i am having fun. we can win this, i still dont think im the best vote for d1 though.

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I don't get a scum read on corporate. I think he's just being an ass.

thats the best thing said in my defense ever. i got a new sig now!

[corporate]

ugh. ill change it. everyone is so uptight.

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I don't want him to just 'hide.' I wish I could quote the other games he's in, but sadly they are all new games.

Example coming in a moment.

i dont read a game unless im in it. thats just always seemed un ethical to me. i understand alot of people disagree with me, but i feel like if your not in a game. that game is none of your business.

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i dont think that just because you dont like how i choose to play that makes it scummy. im participating and trying to be helpful. in the way thats fun for me. over analyzing and putting together a wall of text for everything might seem more helpful. and i do agree very much that it can be convincing. but from previous experience it can take some of the fun out of even playing.

im trying not to turn the game into a chore. its better to lose a game you had fun playing, then to win a game that felt like homework.

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And by bad player, I don't mean inherently. Just in this game, making some bad performance choices.


Nothing personal. My criticism still stands.

hay, im not taking any offense. can you quote me where i said i was a good player? .... nope. ;p

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you can tell someone to please go fuck themself. but it still sounds like a demand.

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i understand what your saying mizzy, and my example was a bit extreme. although sometimes its hard to tell when youre reading. as opposed to actual convorsation.

meh..

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unvote

sigh... im undecided.

[corporate]

You call backpedaling? well, i call shenanigans!

[corporate]

ummm... i didnt know i couldnt do that.

[corporate]

alright, alright, this might sound crazy, but i got this idea. how about.... we dont kill corporate.

now i know this might sound off coming from me, but i think its a bad idea. i really trust him, i think it would be a waste of a day. especially day1. sure, he is annoying, but he is also harmless. i know this man! its just this feeling i cant seem to shake.

i say there has to be someone better to lynch. we should just keep him around a little while longer.

[corporate]

i started well? what about all the stuff thats going on up there about you? and you bring me back into this? i think everyone already knows im an ass, captain obvious. what about you?

[corporate]

polly want a cracker?

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i do think that was a useful comment simpor. because it points out the fact that as soon as you got a little bit of pressure you poped in like a parrot trying to remind people that they dont like me.

infact id say my four word post was more useful then your generic waste of a paragraph in 237.

[corporate]

why if youd like to see how the case evolves, why not help it evolve instead of opening yourself the door to switch wagons without doing any work?

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checking in. thanksgiving is keeping me busy. ill catch up when i can, but i have a pretty full schedule this weekend.

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ok, im back from my holiday routine and will be catching up with work then my games and hopefully posting some kind of comment by tomorrow..

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meh. im on board.

vote simpor

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@crywolf

you mean were passed the random voting phase? :p

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i wanna

unvote

i like his 382 and want to reconsider.

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its mostly the mizzy, ether connection. i also felt that way when they were drilling me a few pages back. ether gives me weird vibes but im not convinced shes scummy. maybe just arrogant. thats why i wanted to think about my vote some more.

[corporate]

382 is good enough for me.

unvote; vote:corporate

Back to teh awesome corp wagon.

wow, paperclip man... youre playing almost as bad as me.

want me to teach you to stop using caps too?

[corporate]

/yawn

[corporate]

looks like i caught you slippin?

that was a really lame excuse to vote for me. looks like you were lurking too. so you were being just as helpful as i was. but its ok because you didnt say anything. but you can call me for crap 7 minutes after my last post.

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it proves mizzys point about the wagon hopping though.

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id rather hang fuzzy and cry over simpor. :/

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does everyone voting simpor really want him hammered? he is at L-1

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oh L-2 is correct , i miss counted

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no i was not willing to hammer him. i was trying to bring attention to what i thought was a L1 situation.

i dont want to vote for him cuz i think fuzzy and cry are more scum then he is.

[corporate]

Did I accidentally revote Simp?

(checks)

unvote; vote: corporate

uhh... ok?

[corporate]

SCUMMY
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Charter
Fuzzyman &crywolf20084
Tisp & Empking
q21 & Simpor
Patrick & Mizzy & Ether & Green Crayons
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NOT SO SCUMMY

my chart.

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Why are mizzy and corporate not voting?

If there was a deadline, would people consolidate their votes onto specific people - and, if so, who would those people be?

not voting because i dont like changing my vote around if i change my mind. but if there was a deadline id

vote fuzzy

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^ agreed

[corporate]

unless hes town.

who isnt caring about this game, hence looking scummy. needing to be replaced?

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And, my goodness. You're making me agree with Empking. I feel all dirty.

lololol

In short, Emp needs to stop whining.

agreed. if he didnt come back i would say replace over lynch, but now he came back it proved lurking, looks scummy and a lynch is acceptable now. hes not my prefered lynch, but its still acceptable. where as if he didnt respond we would be hurting, not knowing if he was town who didnt give a fuck or not.

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thats how it works simp, when youre in the spotlight you cant win for losing.

ive been there, thats why im not voting for you..... yet.

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no fuzzy, my #1 reason is because there are people who i feel are scummier then him. i.e. you

however, i am not quick to change my vote to him after his boo boo from lurking, because there are times when people get determined that your scum. it gets frustrating and you kinda do wanna say fuck it, and back off a bit. so i guess i CAN sympathize a bit. but thats not my main reason.

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charter, my vote is on fuzzy

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should we get a deadline?

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I don't think we need a deadline, though I don't care either way enough to fight one. I was just indirectly telling Mizzy and Crywolf that they were wrong.

Corporate: what sort of motivation do you see for Fuzzyman's bullshit around the Simpwagon that puts him as scum without Simpor also being scum? (Assuming that's why you're voting him.)

i feel like fuzzy dosent care who dies, so long as its not him. where most of us are trying to lynch the right person. if i moved my vote id move it to cry not simpor. i also want the day to end but i can not lynch him when i just do not feel its the best decision.

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well. i see your point, but thats how i felt when i voted him.

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most everyone from my not so scummy list are on simpor.

eh...

did simpor ever claim? did i miss it? i say claim or die, i guess.

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ebwop: my bad, he did claim vanilla

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vote deadline

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@mykonian: i dont think ive exactly been anti town. hell, i tried to tell you guys not to lynch simpor. i have been playing the game. so playstyle asside you have no real case. annoying dosent cut it.

vote fuzzyman

will post a bit more once i get settled in from the weekend.

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its not a bandwagon vote. its the vote i was pushing yesterday while everyone else was busy killing a townie.

thx though myk igmeoy

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i had no proof i just didnt think he was scum. especially not as much as fuz and cry. it dosent make me town. it just shows im trying.

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so, crywolf are you just going to pop in every few days and re arange your scum list, or what?

@mizzy: your real life seems to get in the way enough to be convienent, but not enough to where you cant post.

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back from vacation.

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back from vacation.

Uhh... Welcome back, for now. You never told us where you were going, and charter is currently looking for a replacement.

i dont need a replacement, just a bit of time to catch up.

i didnt tell you where i was going because i was going to have my laptop. but my friend droped it and it broke. so now i only have access from work.

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i will have thoughts soon, the server was down and im swamped with the back from vacation work right now... gimme another day plz.