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raider8169 Mafia Scum
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I dont think a random vote is a must just something to help get the game going. I was just wondering if there was a reason behind it so I could get the game moving as well.armlx wrote:
Actually, he did. Its still sorta the random phase.Well you didnt have to vote but it is fun.
Raider, why did you feel that BA's unvote + revote was necessary to attack?
Same thing as to why I questioned BA and I assume its why you are questioning me.-
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I see, I think of it as something different though. If someone unvotes the random vote just to vote another person there has to be some reason for it. This early it doesnt have to mean the purpose of the vote was to lynch but that is why the revote stood out to me. I consider that to be the first real vote of the game.armlx wrote:
But early game votes like that obviously don't have reason (until they put someone at 3 votes usually), so asking a question you already know the answer to.....How am I setting up for a mislynch? Questioning someones motive for something is never a bad thing.
I don't believe this makes you scummy in itself, I'm mainly interested in your responses to my questions in that regard.-
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Not sure how starting the game off with a self vote works but to each his own. Either way there is no better place for it at the time and we have 2 others with 2 votes so its not any worry of a quick lynch.PimHel wrote:But I've read that he always votes herself at the beginning. It's his tradition. And I haven't posted nothing useful as well.-
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Ok looking back Natirasha has made what I counted 5 posts, a confirm post, a self vote post, 2 bump type posts, a post made about how to display the vote count, the only post that talks about the same is one saying he does self vote at the start.
To answer Armlx's question Natirasha is the best place for my vote for the simple reasons as he has not contributed to the game outside of one post. I do not have a scum tell or anything like that but the active lurking is not pro-town. I am also not saying I want this case run to a lynch.-
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I agree with this. Lurking is not a scum tell but it seems that is going to be how the game goes. If one mislynch didnt bring us to lylo I would push for it but for now my vote only stands in hopes to change the lurking to posting.armlx wrote:
We have 3 lynches to hit 2 scum. You are saying essentially randoming one is the best way to do it? Especially at the point the random shot is the least likely to hit?I don't see getting rid of a massive lurker who is going to be of no help to us as scummy.-
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Toss a vote on someone and give a real reason. Then you will be making things happen instead of waiting.Natirasha wrote:
It's not a playstyle, I'm just waiting for stuff to happen.raider8169 wrote:
I agree, however if what he is doing is a play style then I dont see a replacement happening.armlx wrote:Or get replaced raider. Actually, I like that one a lot.-
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Wow and FOS and Vote in the same point. Thats a first.armlx wrote:Policy FOS raiderfor the "thank you doc" tell.
Actually, raider was 1 of 2 not on the BA lynch. Seems like a fair starting point.
Vote raider
That is the first time if there is a doc I have been in a game where the doc guessed right if that is the case. Its all I was pointing out.
Also as far as the vote goes, you didnt leave me anything to discuss. I thought Bulvox was the better lynch. Still do but I would like to hear from everyone first before voting.-
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I said that because he was at L-1. I was expecting some sort of defense and not for him to just sit there and take it. It seemed odd to me.PimHel wrote:
Why would Raider say this?BlakAdder wrote:
I'm townie.
At L-1 thats all you have to say?
Also he says that Bulvox's case seemed stronger to him, but I can't remember that he actually said why Bulvox case seemed good to him.
I agree with armlx. Thanking the doctor is most of the time a scum tell.
At this moment I'm having doubts about raider and natirasha. Hopefully a mass claim could help us more.
Thanking the doctor a scum tell? I would think of it more as a null tell then anything. I guess someone could be stupid and say your welcome or something to that effect. Oh well.-
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They need more of a reason then that. I think I am at L-1 with no reason. That is scummy and Bulvox as I voted him yesterday is just jumping aboard. I dont like it one bit.Natirasha wrote:
Because your scum in their eyes, and your on the short list. Essentially, this is a game of "Follow-the-Cop" now.raider8169 wrote:Im vanilla.
Armlx and Bulvox, what are your reasons for voting me?
Bulvox answer first.
AKA, doc don't claim.-
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Are you kidding me?!?!Natirasha wrote:At this point, raider, if your town, you should of been fine with just lynching yourself to prove your towniness.
unvote, vote: raider
The scummiest thing someone can do is lynch themselves. It hurts the town on so many levels.
I have yet to have a case agianst me. If I was to be lynched it is just a waste as no information is coming out of this.-
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So because I questioned BA and still thought Bulvox was a better lynch makes me scum?
I have not been proven wrong that Bulvox is scum. Its less likely now but still not proven. I am happy with a Nat lynch because that is the most logical lynch. I dont understand how I am the next one in line though.
Vote Count
raider8169 (2) - Bulvox, Natirasha
Not Voting (4) - Apothecary, raider8169, PimHel, armlx
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Looks like you would be the night kill then if I am lynched. That would give the cop a night to investigate Bulvox and then that would have 3 people cleared or we found our final scum. If I am not mistaken then tomorrow with 3 people cleared or we found the scum that would more less be the game right?PimHel wrote:If everybody agrees with apothecary's innocence then we should lynch either Raider or Bulvox today. The other should be investigated by Natirasha at night.
Armlx questions of post 244:
1 I'm not a cop or nurse
2 I am the doc who protected armlx
4 Like I already said, I think we should lynch raider (see my previous post with some points against him) and if Natirasha is the cop, he should investigate Bulvox this night.
Apothecary, anything to add to the claims?
Can I offer a small change to the plan? Can we lynch Bulvox instead of me and then have the cop investigate me tonight? Either way it looks like a town win and I would rather be alive for it then not.-
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As town or scum you fight till the end. It helps out town overall. Offing yourself will cause me not to like you and never to want to play another game with you. It is not in the spirit of the game.Bulvox wrote:unvote
How are you not scum Raider? If you were town and the list is down to two people, you should have just offered yourself up for the lynch, just so that the game would go faster, thus causing a faster town win. I'm willing to let myself be lynched if that's the case.
I am town, lynching me will show that. If that is what you must do then do it, however I will defend myself. Not defending yourself is just crappy play.-
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I am not saying I cant die, I am a vanilla so its not like anything is keeping me alive. I am also not stopping anyone from placing a vote. I just think it would be better taking out someone else.Natirasha wrote:No. In a game where there is one scum left, 5 town, and you have three players confirmed town, you offer yourself up for lynch, confirming yourself town, then let the cop investigate for the win. Seriously, the longer you keep up this "I can't die!" thing, the more you prove yourself to be town. Or a VI.
If I am not mistaken Nat, Armlx and PimHel are confirmed.
That still leaves what me, Bulvox and Apothecary?
I voted Bulvox along with confirmed townie Nat. I dont think that alone gives away me as scum. However I can understand how that makes me first on the chopping block. Doesnt mean I will just sit back and let it happen.
Bulvox and Apothecary voted BA. Kind of odd how the real scum bussed their partner. As BA voted Bulvox I think that does lean Bulvox as town but maybe they were both trying to buss and hope that gets them through the next day.
I am still thinking Bulvox is the scum but it doesnt add up.-
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It is as long as you change Bulvox and myself around. But whatever you guys are not up for trying to get a flawless town win.armlx wrote:Mod, prod apothecary please?
That is all. Raider should be lynched if Apothecary claims not nurse/cop. PimHel would then protect Nat, Nat checks Bulvox, GG somewhere along the line.
And if Apothecary claims cop/nurse, lynch Nat today, Apothecary tomorrow if game isn't over.
Actually can't lose unless we lynch before Apothercary counters and he then does.-
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If you were really worried about this happening you would atleast unvote me until Apothecary posts.armlx wrote:Again.
NO LYNCHES UNTIL APOTHECARY CAN POST TO CLAIM COP/NURSE OR NOT
After that, raider dies in horrific lynching fashion unless there is a counter.
VOTE COUNT OF EPICNESS
RAIDER8169 (1) - NATIRASHA
NOT VOTING (5) - APOTHECARY, RAIDER8169, PIMHEL, ARMLX, BULVOX
WITH 6 PEOPLE REMAINING, IT TAKES 4 VOTES TO LYNCH.-
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So you did, thanks. Didn't notice before.armlx wrote:Hey, raider, nice one. I did that 2 pages ago when you got to L-1.
Either way instead of a bah post I so need to do a told you so post.
Well even though it is not going to matter much I am going toVote Bulvoxas I think he is the final scum. I guess I will find out tomorrow.-
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What reason would I have to unvote?armlx wrote:Hey, raider, why don't you unvote like you told me to?
The contradictions are boundless.
I had a reason as to not be quick lynched until everyone chimed in. I thought you were still voting.
Start listing my contradictions then, you will find they are not so boundless as you say.-
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You have pointed out a way to win, I will give you that. As I am first on the chopping block do you really expect me to not have my say? We can have a perfect town win here if you can just lynch the scum. That is what I am going for.armlx wrote:Umm, have you not read how I posted there is no way to lose if we just wait for Apothecary?
Does voting look like waiting?-
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