What's your favorite food? Green
Have you ever taken Mr. Cleaver by surprise? Steak
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Goatrevolt wrote:Unvote, Vote armlx
I'm all for putting pressure on people lurking/avoiding this thread to get this game going.
The scummiest thing is your heavy reaction to it. Being quite aggressive back "by any stretch of the imagination" etc.Goatrevolt wrote:Is this directed at me?Crazy wrote:I believe Oman's point was that you provided reasoning on a seemingly random vote. You're trying to make the suspicion smaller than it is.
I provided reasoning for my legitimate vote on armlx. Can you explain how that's scummy?
Agressive has two meanings. In this context (i.e. if you mean "Reacitvely angry") then certainly yes. Scum picked for an early wagon yell and scream and headdesk for their mistakes to be caught so early.OhGodMyLife wrote:Oman, do you think being extremely aggressive is a scumtell?
Sounds like a really stupid thing to do as scum this early in a game. and NO, WIFOM does not fit here because its not a 50% swing.armlx wrote:What if he just made up some reason that sounded good and had to argue his way out of a hole?
Umm, no it isn't. What purpose would Oman have for accusing someone based on completely idiotic grounds, like "putting reason with a vote." He must have had some reason, or phrased that poorly, or whatever.
I'm not telling you to accept it, I'm saying that thats cool if you don't believe me. But its what I've seen, and I've said so since the start.armlx wrote:So basically, you want us to accept this tell because you said so with no evidence? Can you show us times where it has been used, etc etc?
Lol? Wow, way to go for insults over intellect.Crazy wrote:Fixed for you.GR wrote:Goatrevolt: Oman's logic for thinking me scum is wrong.
Crazy: But if that was Oman's real logic then it would make him look likescuma complete idiot that doesn't know how to play mafia. Therefore it can't be his real logic.
Goatrevolt: Um...
Crazy: Come on Oman, tell them what your real reasons were.
Didn't answer my question as to how you feel. Do you think I'm scum, scummy, worth pressuring, what? A vote is a lot of things.armlx wrote:Well I'm voting you, and OMGL is bordering on lurking.Question: Armlx, how do you feel on OGML and myself.
Not, that was my point, reasoning ISN'T a pro-town thing in that time. Mid-day, sure! But not in random.armlx wrote:Oman's logic that reasoning = scummy is definitely a "Too Townie" argument, as reasoning is generally a pro-town thing.
Armlx's aggression towards Oman worries me. I don't even see how Oman's case was even related to the "Too Townie" argument. It was about finding people who are trying too hard to look town, not people who do look town.
Actually GR kicked off "past random" then and when you really look at it, no vote can define itself simply by its own existance. Circular logic BTW.armlx wrote:The end of random is as soon as anyone makes a vote with logical reasoning. By definition GR's was past random.How can you say it was "definitely past random" when two people in fact made a random vote after GR's vote?
Notice the logical BTW. This discounts the dumb counter-random votes that sometimes occur.
But you can't use his vote to justify his vote.armlx wrote:Why not? Clearly the random phase of the game was over as something was done in it to prompt action that was non-random.Actually GR kicked off "past random" then and when you really look at it, no vote can define itself simply by its own existance. Circular logic BTW.
But you're saying it wasn't too early to use logic because he used logic. See the circle?armlx wrote:He justified his vote with logic. I'm showing you how you can't just say "It was too early for logic".But you can't use his vote to justify his vote.
Hmm interesting point.Goatrevolt wrote:I think Oman is correct regarding the circular argument bit, but I also think that this discussion is missing the point.
Oman, do you think that the first person to place a non-random vote is scummy if they provide reasoning for it, and not scummy if they don't provide reasoning? Isn't that almost contradictory, because if they don't provide reasoning, then how would we know it's a real vote and not just another random vote. Rage and Netran were both random voting additional players. If I voted armlx without reasoning, it would be assumed to be another random vote. If I vote armlx with reasoning, it becomes clear that it's a real vote.
Its a number of votes thing...iamausername wrote:Why do you think armlx was responsible for the OGML wagon forming?Oman wrote:Cause it means that a bandwagon forms, which means I need to form an opinion on it.iamausername wrote:Why does that suck?Oman wrote:armlx is now anti-OGML, which kinda sucks.
?? why me specifically. I'm actually approaching this game with caution because of the way it went down last time.Crazy wrote:but I'd think Oman would be more excited about this game than most of us.
Mencellator wrote: I am more focused on Oman. Not for any specific reason but because his arguments generally seem scummy throughout the day.
Vollkan wrote:Sounds a lot like gut in a tuxedo to me
Shhh less rage.iamausername wrote:What the hell? Where was it "pretty much proven" what Oman meant? Because I still have no idea what "it's a number of votes thing" is supposed to mean, or how the fuck Oman saying "armlx is now anti-OGML, which sucks, because it means a wagon forms" can possibly not be sayng that armlx caused the wagon to form.Crazy wrote: I get what Oman was saying by the "number of votes" thing. I didn't originally, but it obviously didn't show that armlx was responsible. What I find suspicious is Iamausername beating this dead case with a stick, after it was pretty much proven what Oman meant in that post.FoS Iamausername