Open 570: Making Friends and Enemies (Mafia Wins!)

[hephaestus]

'sup everyone?

Just saying hi but I will ketchup later today

[hephaestus]

Where is the gm wagon at?

[hephaestus]

Npau has suddenly become a scum read based on 439.

And he is easier to kill than goodmorning

vote npau

Just as I was getting confident you're town

[hephaestus]

*cue performance anxiety*

he already said it himself though

And he is easier to kill than goodmorning

in other words it's opportunistic as hell and discredits his whole push on goodmorning if you ask me

not to mention he doesn't actually explain his read

@Mala: tbh yes I have been lurking sorta, because I'm still struggling to form reads on most players and whenever i've tried to post I found I didn't actually have anything useful to say

[hephaestus]

I know

[hephaestus]

Hmm, Josh why are you voting Peabody?

[hephaestus]

^lel

[hephaestus]

you made a funny

[hephaestus]

Ok so the problem with this game is that it hasn't built momentum due to all the replacements. At this point I'd expect at least one solid wagon but instead there's a ton on vanity wagons that aren't going anywhere and I don't even know where to begin looking for scum.

VOTE: Metal Sonic

[hephaestus]

VOTE: NPAU

OR I guess this works for me
VOTE: NPAU

[hephaestus]

are wagons often the focal point of your scum hunt?

Yes. Vanity wagons don't tell me anything. The way a wagon develops shows us where scum is - who is eager to jump on a wagon, who hops off a wagon last minute, etc. Sure reasoning and arguments are somewhat alignment indicative but when there is nothing at stake, meh. I'm not surprised someone voted me for this but I don't hate this wagon and I wanna see where it goes.

[hephaestus]

I don't like that you haven't had strong opinions about anyone.

Me neither

[hephaestus]

Why don't you hate the wagon?

Because I have no reason to believe he's town.

[hephaestus]

hephaestus what concerns you about Josh? You pinged him in 463

Hmm, Josh why are you voting Peabody?

There's often a distinction in the difference between town and scum asking questions, and I want to know your motivation behind it. In your ISO, this random prod to Josh pops up.

I actually think Josh is town, which is why I was curious about his case on Peabody, especially since I had/have a slight town read on him as well.

[hephaestus]

Hold up guys wait for me

VOTE: goodmorning

[hephaestus]

Eh. If goodmorning is town we can lynch MS scum tomorrow. It's day 1 not LyLo

[hephaestus]

Definitely.

[hephaestus]

Nothing is impossible

[hephaestus]

EFFORT IS NOT AND HAS NEVER BEEN INDICATIVE OF ALIGNMENT

my scumread on hephaestus is mainly based on him being 100% useless.

You're a funny gal

[hephaestus]

I'm caught up, post after shower, sorry for being such a lazy poop

[hephaestus]

God, don't you love taking looong showers?

anyway, best way to figure out what anything regarding the gm wagon means is to lynch gm

MS jumping off is definitely a mind fuck. Looking back, his posts seem to suggest that he didn't really expect that wagon to take off so while I wouldn't expect someone to hard bus their scum partner D1 for no reason, it might be naive to disregard that possibility altogether

not really feeling an npau lynch anymore tbh

brb

[hephaestus]

Uctriton is scum

[hephaestus]

Nah, I don't think npau is scum

[hephaestus]

and shinobi would be a bad distraction wagon

[hephaestus]

this might be the dumbest thing i've ever read

you're

the dumbest thing I've ever read

[hephaestus]

Kek

[hephaestus]

Hephaestus talk to me about your town reads.

Scripten
dave is starting to give me town vibes, Zeb's replace out did as well
you, basically for being active and not scummy. self-vote is annoying as hell btw but realistically a null if not a town tell
Peabody because I like his reasoning and tone
Shinobi is town because uct is voting him

[hephaestus]

After

Hmmmmmm Sonic might be Scum.

Vote:Goodmorning

Why?

Any assertion of a GoodMorning/NPAU scum team might as well be a scum claim. Or you need to come up with a sure fire explanation of bussing which even with all of the WIFOM at my disposal, I can't do.

I'm not sure I'm following. Why is it absolutely 100% impossible for that specific vote to be a bus?

Personally I didn't think a gm/npau scumteam was likely because of their wagons though so I'm not sure where you think I made this case

I wanted to lynch gm yesterday

[hephaestus]

Toffee, what is your read on Mala at this point? Actually, could I ask you for a full read list like 600? Reasoning not necessary, just to get an idea of where exactly everyone stands with you right now

[hephaestus]

Post in the morning. Sorry!