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Mafia didn't use up all their time, that's interesting.
Vote: DoctorEagle. How dare you guys hydra so I can be in this game.CLICK HERE FOR THE ALDUSKKEL APPRECIATION PAGE
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Excuse me? I don't believe I was in that game.
On an unrelated note,
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Why would you vote me based on the PYP game when I was a Cop and got lynched Day 1 because BK201 counterclaimed me when he was just a VT?CLICK HERE FOR THE ALDUSKKEL APPRECIATION PAGE
"i've only known aldus for four and a half months but if anything happened to him i would kill everyone in this room and then myself" -Datisi, March 28 2020
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SheepingIn post 42, pieguyn wrote:In post 28, Sakura Hana wrote:And suddenly a venrob wagon starts. This is quite interesting.HoS: Sakura
just pointing out what's going on and calling it "interesting" instead of analyzing it or posting their opinion on it
Vote: Sakura
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What is your opinion of the Venrob wagon?CLICK HERE FOR THE ALDUSKKEL APPRECIATION PAGE
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^I think it's a good vote.
Why is the wagon useless, Sakura?CLICK HERE FOR THE ALDUSKKEL APPRECIATION PAGE
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That doesn't mean it's useless.CLICK HERE FOR THE ALDUSKKEL APPRECIATION PAGE
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@Sakura: Because post 42.
@TNE: Do you think that I think that Sakura stands a good chance of being lynched based on all this?CLICK HERE FOR THE ALDUSKKEL APPRECIATION PAGE
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What do I gain, as scum, for taking this opportunity?CLICK HERE FOR THE ALDUSKKEL APPRECIATION PAGE
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But, if I'm scum, then I already know what I'm planning to gain. Why are you being coy?
@Sakura: Well, you've commented NOW, but not to my satisfaction. What is your read on Venrob?CLICK HERE FOR THE ALDUSKKEL APPRECIATION PAGE
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@Sakura: You think calling a wagon "interesting" constitutes an actual opinion?CLICK HERE FOR THE ALDUSKKEL APPRECIATION PAGE
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I don't see how that's an actual opinion of the wagon.In post 66, Brian Skies wrote:The post you're looking for, Alduskkel, is #44.CLICK HERE FOR THE ALDUSKKEL APPRECIATION PAGE
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I would rather have Sakura commit to a read rather than sit on the fence about it.CLICK HERE FOR THE ALDUSKKEL APPRECIATION PAGE
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Because usually FoSes and HoSes are used as pseudo-votes, not on people you are already voting.
I fail to see how I have done the same thing as Sakura.CLICK HERE FOR THE ALDUSKKEL APPRECIATION PAGE
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Oh, by the way, it's not the lack of explanation, it's the lack of commitment. Saying something is interesting could mean so many things.
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@Brian: I don't think VA's activity "surge" is indicative of anything other than that VA needs to post more content.
@pieguy: I didn't take a stance on the HoS thing because there's not really a stance to be taken. It's not scummy or townie, it's just weird. On the other hand, the Venrob wagon is definitely something that people need to have a stance on.
I don't really know what you mean in the second part of your post, but I don't think Sakura has explained himself sufficiently.CLICK HERE FOR THE ALDUSKKEL APPRECIATION PAGE
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Well, you can commit without explaining, but it's very difficult/impossible to explain without committing.In post 82, pieguyn wrote:I meant, if someone explains their position on an issue, they first have to commit to that position, else they can't explain it. what makes that a separate thing from committing?
I suppose I could try to get EVERYONE to take a stance, but that's a bit difficult. Also, there's probably a lot of people who will comment on it without me poking them. The main reason I chose Sakura was because she mentioned the wagon but didn't give a real opinion on it.In post 82, pieguyn wrote:
if you say people need to have a stance, how come you're not pressuring more people to give a stance? notably, I saw you didn't pressure me or VA about it 0.0Alduskkel wrote:On the other hand, the Venrob wagon is definitely something that people need to have a stance on.
But yeah, point taken. What's your opinion of the wagon, anyway?
@Ankamius: What's your opinion of Sakura? You just sort of popped in here to vote Venrob. By the way, I think that's just how Venrob plays. He explains stuff like that, I don't think it's an attempt at towncred. This is based on my experience with him in Open 472.
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@pieguyn: Disagree. If I can get someone to definitively say "this guy is town" or "this guy is scum" then even if they don't explain it they're still committed, which leaves less room for them to opportunistically get on wagons.
Explanations are good, though, just not always 100% needed.
Didn't notice that stuff with VA and Hiraki. Very curious indeed, I look forward to their responses.CLICK HERE FOR THE ALDUSKKEL APPRECIATION PAGE
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It's kind of a stupid semantics issue. Basically, Sakura said the wagon was "interesting." I used the term "explanation" because I wanted an explanation of what she meant by "interesting." Or, in other words, I wanted her to commit to a stance on the wagon.CLICK HERE FOR THE ALDUSKKEL APPRECIATION PAGE
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I'm guessing you're talking to me, even though "Adesk" is so far from my actual username as to be borderline unrecognizable.In post 110, JacobSavage wrote:Adesk, why Venrob vote?
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Venrob is town, based on my knowledge of his playstyle.
Sakura satisfies me for the moment. She bumps up to nullish scum.Unvote.But I'll leave aFoS.
Also, both people on my "wagon" (if two players are a wagon) are just sort of parking their vote there without actually pushing a case on me or responding to things I've said.
pieguyn is slightly town (I say slightly because it's only page 6), so I'll go with his read, though I don't strictly prefer JacobSavage over thenewearth.
Vote: JacobSavage
Also, about half the playerlist seriously needs to get in here and stop lurking. Not all of you damn lurkers are scum... if you were, it'd be easy.
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Is anyone here scumreading Venrob who has also played with him before?CLICK HERE FOR THE ALDUSKKEL APPRECIATION PAGE
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I think Venrob goes for a sort of "by the book" style, and considering self-voting scummy falls into that.CLICK HERE FOR THE ALDUSKKEL APPRECIATION PAGE
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It can be anti-town, but I don't think it's meaningfully scummy.In post 146, Sakura Hana wrote:So according to you self-voting isn't scummy?
ETL, how do you know Venrob doesn't actually think self-voting is scummy? Also, Brian voted for Ankamius, too, do you think that was scummy?CLICK HERE FOR THE ALDUSKKEL APPRECIATION PAGE
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In post 151, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:While obvious defense of them is a stupid idea, Sakura never comes out and says if she thinks Venrob is town. In fact, when pressed for an overt stance, she plays games and tells people to run around the thread looking for hints.
...although I agree with you that if Venrob flipped scum I would be very suspicious of Sakura. And Sakura was being way too coy (need to find a synonym so I can stop using that word all the time) for my taste.In post 83, Sakura Hana wrote:Ok since Alduskkel guy here cant take hints and can't read, My comment on RVS votes means that I agree with Venrob and that I think he's town hence the wagon shouldn't even exist.
I don't think you actually answered my question of, how do you know Venrob doesn't actually think self-voting is scummy?CLICK HERE FOR THE ALDUSKKEL APPRECIATION PAGE
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^^Frikkin' lurkers up there.
Early game, not a lot to go off of. A lot of the players have barely posted anything more than RVS. And in any case, you seem to be doing a good job of picking apart Sakura, as well as calling out some lurkers.In post 159, pieguyn wrote:wow Alduskkel is sheeping me a lot.
@Alduskkel: can you plz explain why you keep sheeping me? certainly you've got some reads yourself you could follow, too
@Brian: I was on Venrob's wagon because it was a wagon. I frequently bandwagon in the RVS.
Are they? See above for why I got on the Venrob wagon. And Sakura absolutely deserved that vote at the time, she definitely needed pressure.In post 163, Brian Skies wrote:
You do realize you've already jumped on two wagons, right? And both of your jumps look pretty opportunistic to me.In post 104, Alduskkel wrote:@pieguyn: Disagree. If I can get someone to definitively say "this guy is town" or "this guy is scum" then even if they don't explain it they're still committed,which leaves less room for them to opportunistically get on wagons.
Considering I'm not being very subtle about sheeping/bandwagoning I don't think my behavior is scummy. But I might be biased.
I don't think either vote on Ankamius was scummy.In post 163, Brian Skies wrote:
Okay, I was wrong. Alduskkel noticed it too. What is your opinion on this then, Alduskkel?In post 148, Alduskkel wrote:ETL, how do you know Venrob doesn't actually think self-voting is scummy? Also, Brian voted for Ankamius, too, do you think that was scummy?CLICK HERE FOR THE ALDUSKKEL APPRECIATION PAGE
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All that work and still no scumhunting.In post 175, Venrob wrote:[snip]
I'm just pointing out that I don't consider my own behavior scummy.In post 176, pieguyn wrote:
er what? this indicates you care about whether your behavior is scummy or not. I can't understand a town motivation behind this = =Alduskkel wrote:Considering I'm not being very subtle about sheeping/bandwagoning I don't think my behavior is scummy. But I might be biased.
"Caring" would be more along the lines of actually modifying my behavior to avoid looking scummy. Although, in fairness, if I don't look scummy that's one mislynch less on the table, so it is loosely pro-town to try to avoid being scummy. At least as long as it doesn't get in the way of anything else.
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Don't like Sakura's recent posts -at all-. Prefer DP's analysis to baldeagle's, and not just because DP called me town and baldeagle didn't. baldeagle apparently doesn't have anything to say about the argument between me and Sakura, plus didn't read closely enough to realize pieguy was voting Sakura already when he HoSed.
Anyway, I'll be V/LA for the 19th and 20th, just so you guys know.CLICK HERE FOR THE ALDUSKKEL APPRECIATION PAGE
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Yo
popping in to say I disapprove of Venrob being at L-1
Still have limited access.
Will respond to stuff later.
At least don't hammer in the next 7 hours. And obviously wait for Venrob to post again. Ideally, don't hammer him at all.
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Well, we have a problem. The game's been mostly revolving around Venrob and Sakura, but they're both V/LA. Also it feels like half the playerlist is lurking.
Unvote.
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Seems like the worst of the lurkers. Just sort of "on" the Venrob wagon in a clandestine manner.
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VENROB. GIVE ME ANY SCUMREADS YOU HAVE.CLICK HERE FOR THE ALDUSKKEL APPRECIATION PAGE
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Who the fuck pops in only to give meta, defend himself, and talk about his own claimed role?CLICK HERE FOR THE ALDUSKKEL APPRECIATION PAGE
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The prod dodges...CLICK HERE FOR THE ALDUSKKEL APPRECIATION PAGE
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How the hell did VA and DE make it onto your not-willing-to-lynch list? And how did pieguy make it onto the other list?In post 294, Hiraki wrote:This game is really hard to read. Therefore, I think I'm going to use process of elimination here.
I am not willing to lynch: Venrob, VieraAssassin, ETL, DoctorEagle, BrianSkies, and Ankamius.
That leaves: Alduskkel, JacobSavage, pieguyn, Sakura Hana, thenewearth
My next posts will basically be choosing out of that pile but I wouldn't be surprised if this is how the rest of this game goes for me.
I would like to point out to everyone that there are less than 4 days before deadline and Sakura will not be back before then unless the deadline is extended. I think we should probably lynch someone who is active lurking if nothing else comes up. Although I'm not terribly happy with lynching lurkers, especially since with so many in the game some of them are bound to be town... however some of them are definitely scummier than others (VA if he (she?) doesn't replace out, JacobSavage, TNE, Hiraki).CLICK HERE FOR THE ALDUSKKEL APPRECIATION PAGE
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For all your whining Hiraki I don't actually see an explanation for those reads. At least give some hard scum reads.
Also, I didn't call you scummy for not explaining yourself. You're scummy because you don't post jack. 4 of your 5 most recent posts are promising to do stuff later, and I don't see that stuff yet.CLICK HERE FOR THE ALDUSKKEL APPRECIATION PAGE
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ITT Hiraki gives excuses for not scumhunting.CLICK HERE FOR THE ALDUSKKEL APPRECIATION PAGE
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Unvote. VA vote makes no sense anymore.
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VA was a lurking lurker who lurked. But apparently it was for IRL reasons, not scummy reasons.In post 320, Brian Skies wrote:
What made a vote on VA make sense to you?In post 319, Alduskkel wrote:VA vote makes no sense anymore.
You want me to respond to the post point by point? I didn't want to clutter the thread, but okay:In post 322, Hiraki wrote:
Thanks for confirming my vote and dodging the questions.In post 318, Alduskkel wrote:ITT Hiraki gives excuses for not scumhunting.
I'll look at the rest of the group later. When I'm not busy (because apparently that seriously needed to be said too)
1. You have yet to call anyone scum (recently) other than me, and that just seems reactionary.In post 316, Hiraki wrote:
Meanwhile, I already said this game was hard to read. Do you think I'm just going to come out and say "AH-HA SCUM FOUND!111!1!"In post 315, Alduskkel wrote:At least give some hard scum reads.
Lurking=Scummy. GJAdus wrote:Also, I didn't call you scummy for not explaining yourself. You're scummy because you don't post jack.
Yet. It's been a few days now and I have time.Adus wrote:But 4 of your 5 most recent posts are promising to do stuff later, and I don't see that stuff yet.
That being said, I'm really liking Aduskelscum.
2. Active lurking is definitely scummy. You're posting enough to maintain a decent presence in the game, yet failing to produce any real content.
3. Still waiting then... I'll be impressed if you come up with anything other than "Alduskkel is scum."CLICK HERE FOR THE ALDUSKKEL APPRECIATION PAGE
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I think Sakura is probably town, because things seem to be drifting towards her being the easy/compromise lynch that flips town but no one gets blamed for because hey, it was that or no lynch, right?CLICK HERE FOR THE ALDUSKKEL APPRECIATION PAGE
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Unvote.Vote: JacobSavage. Partly just to start consolidating votes, partly because I don't care for a pieguy or Sakura wagon, partly because JacobSavage is scummy.CLICK HERE FOR THE ALDUSKKEL APPRECIATION PAGE
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What makes them similar?In post 354, pieguyn wrote:unvote vote: JacobSavage
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Ok, let's look at it this way. If I don't get on a wagon that's forming near the end of the day, then my only option is... Venrob (Bert).
It's not about WHEN the wagon forms, it's about how it forms. And I don't like how the Sakura wagon was shaping up, as I said earlier.CLICK HERE FOR THE ALDUSKKEL APPRECIATION PAGE
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If JS is town then why the hell doesn't he push his reads by, you know, fucking voting? He's all talk, you'd think he would have been on the pieguy wagon a long time ago.
pedit: Why is pieguy scum? What don't you like about his defense?
peditx2: There are too many ways for the game to go to odd numbers without us no lynching that I'd prefer if we just let those shake out and no lynch at lylo if necessary.CLICK HERE FOR THE ALDUSKKEL APPRECIATION PAGE
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JS should target Bert. If not then auto-lynch, I think.CLICK HERE FOR THE ALDUSKKEL APPRECIATION PAGE
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That way, if Bert is a Town Goon Cop and JS is scum then Bert can never be killed without also outing JS. Then, we've secured ourselves a Goon Cop. Granted, we have no control over how many Goons there actually are, but, oh well.CLICK HERE FOR THE ALDUSKKEL APPRECIATION PAGE
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Here's what I conclude:
1. Mafia have at least 1 Goon, possibly 2. 3 would be silly, but I suppose it's possible. If they had no goons they wouldn't have killed Bert.
2. As I said in 383, by all accounts our CLAIMED BODYGUARD should have protected our Goon Cop. Not protecting Bert is equivalent to a scum claim.
We ran up two supposed PRs Day 1. Only one was Town.
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Vote JacobSavage for great justice.CLICK HERE FOR THE ALDUSKKEL APPRECIATION PAGE
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Shit.
Scum JOAT has a Strongman. GOD DAMMIT.CLICK HERE FOR THE ALDUSKKEL APPRECIATION PAGE
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Unvote.Sigh, thought we had (nearly) confirmed scum.CLICK HERE FOR THE ALDUSKKEL APPRECIATION PAGE
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Well, we don't KNOW that there's a Strongman in this game. But, unfortunately, I think it's optimal to see if JacobSavage gets nightkilled (most likely in an indirect manner via his role).CLICK HERE FOR THE ALDUSKKEL APPRECIATION PAGE
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JS claimed Bodyguard, that's why pieguy got lynched instead. As for why he was a wagon in the first place... well, you've got me, I thought he was town.
I don't really care for 401 or 402 up there. Especially 402, and not just because it's on me. I thought Hiraki was going to actually do some analysis on someone other than me, like he said he would. If he still voted meafterthat, then that might have changed my mind, but he seems content to just plop his vote onto me with no investigation into anyone else.CLICK HERE FOR THE ALDUSKKEL APPRECIATION PAGE
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Strongman should bypass the Bodyguard and Roleblocker in this game. Bodyguard is basically just a Doctor who dies upon making a successful protection, hence why it can be countered by Strongman.
TNE is right that Commuter trumps Strongman, but there aren't any Commuters in this game.CLICK HERE FOR THE ALDUSKKEL APPRECIATION PAGE
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Okay, I iso'd you IP and the last time you gave a read on Sakura you were "indifferent" (339). Now all of a sudden she's "scummy as shit." That means something changed in the last 70 posts to have Sakura go from null to extremely scummy.CLICK HERE FOR THE ALDUSKKEL APPRECIATION PAGE
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Skimmed isos. Conclusions:
-Brian Skies seems town at a glance, except when you look at his votes and his scumreads you realize that he doesn't actually really push anything. I feel like he is mostly commenting on this game rather than scumhunting.
-DoctorEagle is vaguely town, can't get a hard read yet though. Need a lot more content.
-ETL is just off. No clue why.
-Hiraki is a scumread to me as many of you know, but I'm going to hold off on pushing him for at least a little bit because I want to see how he interacts with players who are not me.
-IP bugs me because a) VA mostly just bandwagoned on Venrob and b) IP has this way of calling someone scummy and then second-guessing himself and putting off actually applying any pressure. Case in point: 424 on Hiraki, 426 on DE. Still feel like the Sakura scumread came out of nowhere.
-Can't read TNE without more content. Mildly scummy.
-Gut town read on Sakura + from what I gather (admittedly based on what Sakura has said) she tends to get mislynched as Town. I am very weary of us sliding into an "easy" Sakura lynch like we almost did yesterday.
I think my vote is best placed here for now.
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@Hiraki: What's there to explain? I was expressing my incredulity at Venrob's play.
Oh, and tell me in your own words why TNE is scum. Preferably more than just "TNE lurks."CLICK HERE FOR THE ALDUSKKEL APPRECIATION PAGE
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Elaborate.CLICK HERE FOR THE ALDUSKKEL APPRECIATION PAGE
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The question is being phrased poorly. Hiraki, you said that you never called DE scum, but you were unwilling to lynch them Day 1. So why were you unwilling to lynch them Day 1?CLICK HERE FOR THE ALDUSKKEL APPRECIATION PAGE
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I just want to start murdering all the prod dodgers. But that would mean taking out half the playerlist.CLICK HERE FOR THE ALDUSKKEL APPRECIATION PAGE
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Brian, respond to my vote on you. Also, tell me why TNE is scum, in your own words.CLICK HERE FOR THE ALDUSKKEL APPRECIATION PAGE
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Good responses. (I can go into detail why if anyone asks.)
Unvote.
Vote: TNEhow about you get into those "serious details" of why Sakura is scum sooner rather than later.
That's L-2, by the by.CLICK HERE FOR THE ALDUSKKEL APPRECIATION PAGE
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