Open 514: Monks and Masons in Serona - GAME OVER

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HELLO EVERYONE

THIS IS EXCITING

HI GM MY FELLOW CAT LOVER.

HOW ARE YOU DOING?

<3

I AM WELL
I ASSUME YOU ARE WELL AS WELL

Hi GM

Help me.save this game pls

WTFRU TALKIN BOUT
GAME LOOKS PRETTY SAFE TO ME

VOTE: 50 shades of purple

Hiiiiiiiii Mollieeeeeeee and Nachooooooo.

Wait there's a hydra of mollie and Nacho?

THIS IS BEST EVER

Inb4 one scumteam is Bert/Mala
And the other is two of {Marquis, 50 Shades, Meow}

OK ACTUAL SERIOUSLY READING PAST PAGE 5 NOW

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Okay

L-2

On page 2

Tell me that's not scumpushed.

Notsci. Notsci listen. Listen. YOU PUSHED YOUR WAGON. YOUUUUUUUUUUUUU
This is a scumclaim. Lynch it now.

Ughhhhhhh can we lynch Marquis too?

Readslist thing prior to page 16:

Noctan - Town. He keeps bringing up how new he is here but that's nor scummy in and of itself.

50 shades - Where is Nacho I WANT NACHO SO I CAN JUST READ HIM AND GET IT OVER WITH
Oh, there's Nacho. I don't know that I like 242

Scott - Null. Where the fuck is this dude, I keep seeing his name on VCs?

Bert - Null-Town, but stop dicking around you asshole

Sakura - Scum. All her play looks angled specifically towards getting towncred and this looks bad to me.
Also: IN MULTIBALL NOBODY GETS TOWNCRED FOR GOOD READS DUH

Her 351 is absolutely a Mafia slip.

Malakittens - Null-Scum. This is almost entirely gut.

Saki - Town. Looks like N1379.

RachMarie - Null. She's not been around much. Didn't like her setup uncertainty, but she has been distracted.

notscience - SCUM FOR PUSHING BAD WAGONS (jk, I don't think he's Scum)

MeowMix - Null. Inactivity.

Honey Bee - Null-Scum. Also inactive but damned if those two posts don't look scummy as fuck.

Marquis - Annoying.

Will finish the rest later so as not to hurt myself.

Vote: Sakura

Also @notsci: Yeah, I see where you think it's broken now.

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One of her posts is trying to get me lynched by saying I'm town and acting scummy while doing it.

brb,

laughing myself to death

Dude, a 1 for 1 on a weak townie is the shittiest tradeoff ever. Now if you were accusing me of doing that to the hydra or Mala, that would almost be a good strategy now that I think about it.

totally not filing that one away for future reference or anything

hai gm

GM care to elaborate on 351 being a scumslip?

A

Mafia

slip in particular. Her post indicates that she is wolf hunting. The Mafia are tacked on as an afterthought.
I fucking love this setup for precisely these types of things.

@Mala: No, he's Town in my books, one of my strongest reads, and there are many other people I'd rather lynch first. I can see why people are reading him Scum though.

@Noctam: Explain. Saying someone "acted scummy" is not good enough.

Also THREE PAGES WHYYYYYYYYYYYY

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Why exactly do you think I'm town in the first place? And no, it isn't a shitty strategy, you could get me lynched, then when they target you you could easily turn it around. Unless I were actually scum.

As for the weak townie remark³, how the fuck can you possibly think I'm town⁵?² Like seriously, my drunk posts⁴ were some of the most fucktarded things in this game. If I were any other person I would have lynched my stupid ass¹. And yeah, I am noobtown, but how can you think that at all?

1. I haven't read your drunkposts yet.
2. I flatter myself that I have some talent at reading newbies.
3. I think you're Town, but obvs weak since there's a big fucking wagon on you.
4. Drunkenness has no correlation with alignment.
5. Are you claiming scum then?

As for why specifically I think you're Town, it has everything to do with the game up to p16. I don't see from you any of the single-faction scumhunting that I would expect from someone fairly new. The thing people were finding you scummy for at that point was you shouting "I'M A NEWB" to the clouds, but there's nothing necessarily scummy about that because it could easily be a confidence thing.
You seem engaged with the game, genuinely curious, no hangups on irrelevant questions, no fishing for masons or towncred, quite plainly very townish. It's a little harder in this setup since everyone's hunting someone, but still quite true.
And if I have you as a strong Townread for the first 16 pages it's likely to continue that way, regardless of your drunkenness.

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why put this in there?

He literally said the words "how can you possibly think I am town?"
That's not an exaggeration or a reframing. Those are his

actual words

.
If you still don't know why I included that then you are not the mollie I remember.


AND THEN THERE WERE THREE NEW PAGES BUT NOTHING RELEVANT WAS ON ANY OF THEM GUYS

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why put this in there?

He literally said the words "how can you possibly think I am town?"
That's not an exaggeration or a reframing. Those are his

actual words

.
If you still don't know why I included that then you are not the mollie I remember.


AND THEN THERE WERE THREE NEW PAGES BUT NOTHING RELEVANT WAS ON ANY OF THEM GUYS

I know what he said. that is why I am wondering why the fuck would you put him in your town pile. and now it seems like you think he is scum.

I still think he's town. I'm just wondering why he tried claiming Scum.
In case it wasn't obvious, that was an actual question that I actually wanted answered.

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Goodmorning:

Sakura - Scum. All her play looks angled specifically towards getting towncred and this looks bad to me.
Also: IN MULTIBALL NOBODY GETS TOWNCRED FOR GOOD READS DUH

Her 351 is absolutely a Mafia slip.

Bad. Towncred, really -_-? This term is just turning into an umbrella term to throw suspicions at people who are doing good things. Do you wanna explain why it's towncred? Do you even have anything to say to her, instead of complaining about lack of content?
and that's not a scumslip. That sentence is arranged how any normal person would say it. How would you even arrange that sentence in a way that wouldn't be a scum slip to you?

Yes. Shall I rephrase? She is focusing on looking townish. That's not something Town ought to be too worried about.
I didn't say it was a scumslip. I said it was a Mafia slip. If you were reading you might have picked up on my explanation of this too.

@Mala: No, he's Town in my books, one of my strongest reads, and there are many other people I'd rather lynch first. I can see why people are reading him Scum though.

Again, why would you even have such a strong read on someone when you see where the other side comes from, especially when you reduced that argument to him saying "IM A NEWB"? Yeah no it wasn't, that was only meowmix.

Because I know the kind of things people read as scummy, and I think there are mitigating factors. And clearly you weren't reading if you think only Meow had that to say.

lurk moar gm

k.

In case it wasn't obvious, that was an actual question that I actually wanted answered.

I wasn't claiming scum, I was saying that my drunk posts were so scummy why the hell was I not lynched?

I don't know, try asking someone who was in the game at the time.

GM holy shit you rolled scum didn't you?

VOTE: Good Morning

She will normally post more than this per day. I know this from experience while being scum partners with her a while back.

Nah, I just haven't caught up fully yet. At this point I'll probably just skip the rest of the unread pages and just play with the new stuff.

I welcome EVERYONE to read Marquis' ISO.

I don't like that this is a policy lynch gaining traction at this point in the day.
What I like even less is you championing it.
But what I like least of all is the fact that I'm even considering getting on it.

P-EDIT: SAKI I TOTALLY MISSED THAT POST
To answer your question that was hidden in it: I don't have a very good read on notsci at the moment. I'm slightly leaning Town at this point but his recent behaviour's beginning to change that.

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Well at any rate I owed you that answer, and

King Lear

/stupidjoke

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Hello!
Not gonna read 40 pages, so any summary is welcome.

People keep fluffposting for no discernable reason. Sakura is Scum, Mafia in particular. bee leans Scum. Mala leans Scum. Marquis is really fucking annoying.
50 I'm not sure on, but I have a light scumread on them at this point.

Town: {50, notscience, Bert, goodmorning, Saki}
Null-town: {Scott, Marquis}
Null-scum: {RachMarie, Meowmix}
Scum: {Sakura, Honey bee, Malakittens}

WISDOM Y U COPY ME

GM came in when they were mucking up the fucking thread and I told her to save us but she didnt really

I didn't think it needed saving at the time.

Yes. Shall I rephrase? She is focusing on looking townish. That's not something Town ought to be too worried about. I didn't say it was a scumslip. I said it was a Mafia slip. If you were reading you might have picked up on my explanation of this too.

No I mean like evidence or something that backs your accusation. I'm not a fan of towncred argument at all and from you it doesn't seem legitimate.
Okay im sorry I didn't say

Mafia

slip and I knew what you meant. But how else was she suppose to phrase it? Its pretty natural looking to me. Wouldn't it just be a werewolf slip if she phrased it the other way?

Evidence: Her continued attempts to "educate" Saki, for a start. I can go back and grab more later, but for the purposes of answering right now, there it is.
Instead of "werewolf" the more generic "scum" would have been appropriate.

Because I know the kind of things people read as scummy, and I think there are mitigating factors. And clearly you weren't reading if you think only Meow had that to say.

Yeah I agree that reason's a dumb reason but I'm pretty sure me rach 50 saki hadn't voted him cuz of that. Maybe I missed or forgot something but the wagon wasn't about that much at all.
and yeah i read you asshole >:|

I would disagree. I'll go back and read later if you like.

GUYS LET ME POST I HAVE TO DO SHIT TODAY

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I would disagree. I'll go back and read later if you like.

GUYS LET ME POST I HAVE TO DO SHIT TODAY

Post now and stop whining.

I've posted more content in 24 hours than you have all fucking game, don't talk to me about posting.
Besides which it's hardly whining when you get preempted like 5 times when you're trying to post so you can run errands.

50 I'm not sure on, but I have a light scumread on them at this point.

huh? why?

Primarily because Nacho. I'm fairly decent at being able to tell when he's Town, and I'm not getting townvibes off him BUT on the other hand it's only a weak scumread because I'm not as good at reading him in hydra.

It's funny how everyone that has defended me is a scum read for GM.

Mala's defended you? Where? And bee? I haven't seen this.

50 I'm not sure on, but I have a light scumread on them at this point.

Is that light scumread from 242 still? Why did you dislike it?

For a start, and because it doesn't sound like Town-Nacho.

OK FUCK THIS

@Mod: Replace me out i dont wanna deal with wisdom anymore

Wisodm: Im blacklisting you

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

Ok fine..

@Mod: Cancel that replace out

SCUM

Just dont expect me to be happy here playing with Wisdom when it's the 2nd time he deathtunnels me when i'm town...

Are you saying deathtunneling isn't a valid playstyle?
And for that matter are you saying Saki doesn't have a valid playstyle?

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Meh I sense that GM wants to diminish Nacho's credibility by counterattacking him. Nacho and mollie are taking control of the game, got a problem with that?

Not til D2 or D3 I won't.

Nice excuse of "I can generally tell when he's town, and he's not giving me this vibe here" Nice going

It is indeed the truth. I'm a somewhat meta-oriented player, got a problem with that?

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@GM: You're a meta oriented player yet you haven't meta'd me, that's interesting.

You are hilarious if you think I haven't.

For a start, and because it doesn't sound like Town-Nacho.

Don't stop there. Why doesn't it sound like Town-Nacho?

I would assume because you aren't Town.

SCUM

You see a melt-down and this is your response? Really...?

Yes. I find meltdowns inherently anti-Town at their core, and this one looks not just anti-Town but scummy as fuck. It's not the overreaction here that's scummy, she overreacts regardless of alignment, it's the timing and the flimsy excuse.

Are you saying deathtunneling isn't a valid playstyle?
And for that matter are you saying Saki doesn't have a valid playstyle?

what the fuck does this have to do with anything

Because it rather looks like she's looking for playstyle related reasons to make others look bad and herself look good.

Regardless, it appears that bee is the only one of my scumreads with a shot at being lynched today, so

Vote: Honey bee

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@Bert: For a start, I already have seen her as Scum in N1379, which I continued to follow after my death. I also checked out two town games of hers (M198 and N1383) and one other Scum game (N1371). Her behaviour in this game has been most similar to her behaviour in 1371, imo.

@Wisdom: Fine.

Vote: Mala

PEDIT: LOL SELF-META

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EDIT: Her behaviour here

pre-overreaction

has been most similar

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^You're shitting me, right?

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I would assume because you aren't Town.

You don't have any actual reasoning then? I expected you would have something considering the games we've played together are:
Newbie 1305 (you were scum and I lynched you)
Duck Duck Goose (I was scum and I killed you before you replaced in)
Beginning of the End (You were SK and correctly read me as town but you weren't sure on that read at all)
Modless Mafia (I was in a hydra and scum. You ignored me and didn't give any read, I killed you N1).

So you haven't demonstrated any capability of being able to read me ESPECIALLY since we've never had a game where you've caught me out as scum or we've been town together and you've correctly identified me as town. So "this isn't town Nacho" isn't going to cut it; explain yourself.

In Duck Duck Goose I was quite sure you were Scum the entire game and made that quite clear in the dead thread. In BotE I was insanely paranoid.
I've already said I have a hard time reading you in hydra.

PEDIT
SAKURA
ARE YOU FUCKING SHITTING ME
YOUR POSITION IS "LOOK I OVERREACT AS TOWN"
MY POSITION IS YOU LOOKED SCUMMY LONG BEFORE THAT OVERREACTION AND, FURTHER, IDENTICAL TO YOUR SCUM GAMES
AND ALSO THAT WHEN YOU KNOW YOUR TOWN META IT IS NOT HARD TO FAKE IT AND SELF-META TENDS TO COME FROM SCUM IME

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so gm you say you are scumreading nacho? meaning you can tell us apart?

I have a very basic sense of which is which, I think.

one mention of me in your scumteam and I'm not even your strongest read

At that point you were. That read was mostly based on your Hiraki push, because he was obvTown and you would have known it.
In this case I don't see you pushing on anyone you should know better, other than me, but I still get the same feeling. (also mollie stop pretending to be nacho)

Well let's get this over with.
GM's meta case on me is based off a game that happened like 3 months ago or so and it was my first scum game in which i didnt even know what do do and my partner forgot about me.
GM's meta case on Nacho is BS too...
She's using biased meta info to achieve a mislynch.
VOTE: GM

There's something you may want to do before you make accusations like this. That thing is actually reading my posts, instead of reading a couple words and assuming the rest.

if one player is a town monk, how likely is it that the other monk is scum?

It would be like 2/10, so 20%.
(For monks one subtracts #wolves and the player already in it, so the remainder is 2 mafia and 8 townies)

Will respond to Nacho's case in a bit.

WTF WTF WTF did Saki just scumslip?

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WTF WTF WTF did Saki just scumslip?

you liek scumslips too much

I do. Because it's like the original Sims games. You could get a job and earn money for your shit the hard way, OR you could just cheat and get infinite money and just dick about.
Scumslips make the game so much closer to just dicking about.

That said, I'd like to be clear that I'm not at all sure that was a scumslip anyways.

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In this case I don't see you pushing on anyone you should know better, other than me, but I still get the same feeling.

the same feeling. really.
i thought you just didn't feel town nacho, not that you felt scum nacho.

At that point, yes. That was several hours ago. At this point I've read rather more of the game (read: your entire ISO).

PEDIT: IF I WAS SURE I'D HAVE VOTED HIM WHEN I SAW IT

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Edit: VOTED *YOU WHEN I SAW IT

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V/LA til Monday, sorry guys.

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inb4 gm takes the parentheses as another scumslip saying im wolf with bert.

You can't be wolf, I've already seen you wolfhunting.

I can confirm that we are masons, and that I facepalmed a shitton. I don't think he's a wolf though.

STFU SAKI

@Sakura: What's scummy about claiming mason when you've already implied the shit out of it?

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inb4 gm takes the parentheses as another scumslip saying im wolf with bert.

You can't be wolf, I've already seen you wolfhunting.

and you know who would notice something like that a wolf that is who

If she'd been Mafiahunting I'd have noticed that too. These are the most basic multiball tells. One ought always to look out for them.

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6 pages. 6 pages of LOL IDC WISDOM SUCKS N STUFF.

This game is getting ridiculous. HITF am I supposed to keep up with this shit?

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Read Bert's recent posts and tell me if you agree that he's scum.

I don't. His posts are a bit wishywashy but that jives with what I know of him as Town - analyzing everything, saying little. See Micro 189 (under his alt).
So he's sheeping everyone to death. Sure it's exceedingly anti-Town, but that doesn't make him a Wolf.

The one thing that does look actually scummy from him is the last sentence of his 1775 coupled with the middle two lines of 1783. Everything else strikes me as Null to light Town.
PEDIT Coupled with the one from just now too

oh plz. I am pretty sure that you have been in high-volume games before. I sometimes follow fery's games so

I have been in games that did the occasional high-volume day, not the occasional 6-pages-in-2-hours.

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I don't. His posts are a bit wishywashy but that jives with what I know of him as Town - analyzing everything, saying little. See Micro 189 (under his alt).
So he's sheeping everyone to death. Sure it's exceedingly anti-Town, but that doesn't make him a Wolf.

What about his sudden certainty that I'm scum? I realize you don't know of my history with him like I do, which adds to my scumread, but still it's evident it's coming from scum.

So he's sheeping everybody to death. Sure it's exceedingly anti-Town, but that doesn't make him a Wolf.

What about the fact he was certain about Mala being scum (evident by how he replied to her) yet she jumped to you twice?

So he's sheeping everybody to death. Sure it's exceedingly anti-Town, but that doesn't make him a Wolf.

What about the fact he was self-defeatist about his wagon after having tried to encourage someone not to do that exact thing?

Hypocrisy, stupid as it is, is not a scumtell.

it isn't against our wc to hunt outside I am thinking that gm is more dangerous and the flip will shed some light

Oh come on, really? The "let's lynch this person because they're

dangerous

argument? From someone who's probably had this done to them, that's low.
This is disappointing, regardless of your alignment.

VOTE: 50

This is way more interesting than Wisdom vs. Bert. Talk to me, notsci. What's going through your head right now?
PEDIT Please elaborate?

Will respond to the case against me when I have more time.

I'll admit I didn't like how goodmorning hesitated to scumread Bert (when you know, they're mason buddies, and if she knows herself town there's a good chance Bert is wolf). It could point to the fact that if goodmorning is the wolf, she wouldn't want Bert lynched because a Bert townflip would put much more suspicion on her.

This is stupid, because Bert has a 20% chance of being Wolf, whereas any other person on the playerlist has a much greater chance of being scum in general. So on percentage alone this argument is invalid.
Add to that the fact that I

just don't think he's the Wolf

.


Oh, so NOW everyone wants to lynch bee. Fucking genius.

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diginova, cirno, HB?
I have a feeling there's a monk between the three and the other one is rampantly posting

Saki why are you Monkhunting?

Why are you sheeping Bert anyway, Saki?

Best question you've asked all day.


ENOUGH FLUFF. IT IS RIDUCULOUS.
Intent to hammer and cease this foolishness.

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Saki needs to shut up for like a page, I am going insane trying to keep caught up and FLUFF EVERYWHERE

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My prior post was me impolitely proposing that we all try to cut back a little until the replacements have figured out what's what.

I have had a scumread on that slot since I replaced in. It's a lynch I approve of.

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Saki. I am caught up, barely. You (and Wisdom) are making it difficult for me, and I have been in this game for a while. It's got to be downright impossible for the newer folks to do so.

PEDIT OK, will do when I get back in.

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you accused me of monkhunting

You were. In the post. That I quoted.

you haven't seen cirno trying to catch up

Nor have you, apparently, based on your ridiculous quantities of posting. And I forgot that other one, diginova or whatever, even existed tbf.

you don't have

any

questions for me or wisdom

You two have made your thoughts clear and said more than enough. You're the

last

people I'd want to ask

anything

.

pedit: It doesn't seem that hard for Cirno to do. It can't be that hard, goodmorning. These are only excuses so that you don't have to post.

I'm on vacation, Wisdom, or had you missed that in the wake of you and Saki's egoposting?

Oh come on, really? The "let's lynch this person because they're dangerous argument? From someone who's probably had this done to them, that's low.
This is disappointing, regardless of your alignment.

You

know

that we aren't just pushing to lynch you because we think you're dangerous.

Never said you were, just think the two of you are better than stooping to that particular level.

Oh, so NOW everyone wants to lynch bee. Fucking genius.

And you don't...? Why?

I do. I'm simply pissed off because everyone was like "no let's lynch Mala" and I was cool with that one too, then got flak from you for switching and now everyone wants to lynch my original choice anyway. Bit irritating, considering the amount of fluff that could have been avoided and the number of people who would have replaced out during night phase or not at all instead.

Why do you find her scummy?

btw I meant Cirno here.
Just in case a certain someone who doesn't read the game thought something else

If you were referring to me you can fuck off, that was uncalled for.

About Cirno's readslist... it looks rather strange to me. If I figure out what exactly I'll be sure to mention it.

inb4 majiffy

I read this and thought you were serious and almost replaced out.

goodmorning give me a list of reads please

Malakittens - Still Scum, still same reasoning as when I replaced in.
Scott Brosius - Null. Literally three posts, not a lot to go on.
Wisdom - Town, almost solely on the residuals from my read on Noctan
Bert - Lean Town. Mentioned why recently.
Saki - Town. Posts too much.
RachMarie - Still Null. She's posted more recently but I'm not getting anything from it.
notscience - Town. Meta. He's not really doing anything useful, but that's hardly unusual for him.
Sakura Hana - Scum. For all the reasons I've brought up before, and also the fact that she's been majorly OMGUS-y.
DrCirno - Meow looked like... Meow. Cirno, though, my gut screams not right on. In terms of real evidence - her recent posts are a bit buddyish, and her scumread on Wisdom is strange. Leaning Scum.
50 Shades of Purple - I don't know. I'm not one to doubt my reads, but when literally

every single other person

in this game disagrees with me...
Ms Marangal - Scum, mainly on the residuals from my read on bee but also on her complete lack of engagement in the game
diginova - I'm leaning Town: though this slot has less substance than a fairy cake, the replace-out from Marquis looked Town, Town, Town

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It doesn't particularly matter where I have my vote atm as I intended (and still intend) to move it to Mara.
Besides which I'm not of the school that thinks voting is the most important/revealing part of the game.

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Wait one fucking minute

GM you've played what, 2 completed games with me?

I did shit both games and you're dismissing me as town based on meta of not doing shit?

Tone, not content.


YAY TIP!

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Why is Mara close to being lynched? Who is not supportive of this lynch?

Because Honey bee was scummy and Mara's not done better. I don't think anyone really is against it but I could be wrong.

What was Hana's "slip"?

Round 351, iirc.

And 8/10 is the deadline, in US date format.

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gee em should die
</3

no FoS on me is strange

What in the flying fuck are you talking about?

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no FoS on me is strange

Why?

calls me out for monkhunting¹
then says my opinion doesn't matter²

which imo you should only do to scum

but calls me town³ and asks me to 'stop posting'?⁴

1. Being anti-Town doesn't make you Scum
2. Where?
3. Because I'm convinced you are.
4. Because you should. You have nearly 500 posts. It's not making the game any easier to read.
P-Edit: It's not because you're spamming stream-of-consciousness. It's because you're spamming some things that are not relevant.

P-Edit
@Bert: Not particularly.

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GM is also unable to be who she really is and make her town and scum games as similar as she usually does....due to the pace, which is throwing her off

I sense some frustration boiling, don't I

hahahahaha

I'm curious as to which universe my games as different alignments look similar in.
I'm frustrated because as much as I like reading,
"VOTE X VOTE X VOTE X" from Wisdom and "lol i'm a silly sausage" from Saki ARE ANNOYING AND REPETETIVE AND ANNOYING
ha ha indeed.

P-Edit
@Sakura: Why Saki when Scum-me could shoot Wisdom instead? Spammer AND a threat, that's a real treat.

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@Saki, yeah, but two of those replaced out and the other one doesn't do it nearly as often as you do

@Bert "shooting"?

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@Saki: Well fair enough, but still.

@Bert: I'm not saying a bunch of folks with votes aren't troublesome, but threatening? Call it my ego, but I don't hold many players in esteem quite that high.

@Sakura IT TOTES IS A SLIP THOUGH
Kidding, but it is interesting.

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Though if a Mafia member dies during the night, you can tell it was a wolf kill

Anyone know what I find suspicious here?

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Though if a Mafia member dies during the night, you can tell it was a wolf kill

Anyone know what I find suspicious here?

It's like she is assuming a mafia member cannot/will not be killed by his/her partner? If so, how is that suspicious?

I was going for "it's another Mafia slip" but you know. It's all the same to the clam.

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MARA YOU NEED TO FUCKING CLAIM

notsci what setup do you think this is?

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Well Mala is still Scum, so that's cool.

Will refrain from voting at the moment because I think it's L-2 at this point and that's a bit excessive.

I can confirm that Bert claims to have forgotten about the QT and I am inclined to believe him at this point.

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For the record:

Best scenario for either scum team:

"Let's NK Wisdom as it will basically make Mala-conf-scum and we can get an easy mislynch"

Day 2 opens:

"Vote Mala x L-0"

What will you have all gotten?

A town flip, a rushed day and no information.

Besides the WIFOM behind "killing Wisdom makes Mala look bad," (BTW it doesn't because he was being a strong player and so was fifty, so there are much more simple and obvious reasons for them to have been killed) let's get real here.
Mala, you are very probably the lynch today. Regardless of what you're going to flip you should at least provide us with your top scumreads in detail.



At any rate, I'm inclined to wait to vote until we hear from everyone. Quickhammers could cost us valuable reactions.

If the Sakura wagon becomes a thing I could get on that too but I think I prefer Mala today.

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Hello, Saki. Are you planning to make this day as long as the previous?

Oh, notsci. Whatever can you do?

Is it just digi and Cirno left to post so far today? Definitely want to hear from Cirno especially.

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I think all this WIFOM is a detriment to the game. Is that just me?

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Thanks.
I think the selfvote is pretty typical notsci and the Sakura v. Saki thing IS the WIFOM I was referring to.

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What do you make of Mala's posts?

Seeing as I think she is Scum...?


I find it hilarious that the entire Mala wagon disintegrated. That is interesting.

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What do you make of Mala's posts?

Seeing as I think she is Scum...?


I find it hilarious that the entire Mala wagon disintegrated. That is interesting.

It's interesting how you sounded like for sure you knew my lynch was going to be locked in place.

Considering that you got to L-2 in the span of a few hours, it seemed quite likely. Still pretty likely if we're being honest.

So yeah, you at L-2 with multiple other people intending to vote you does indeed make you "very probably the lynch" as I said.

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In most situations VCA is the most useless, non-alignment-predicting bucket of WIFOM in existence. So no, wagon speed does not make me suspicious, even in single-team games.

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(But especially not in multiball.)

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Look at what Mala said

Based on the kills it looked like GM said "well you're def the lynch today"

And I would bet she planned those kills accordingly for that purpose

1. Even if I were scum I'd only get one kill so fuck that.
2. She was at L-2 in the span of a few hours.
3. I have already explained point 2, please read my posts.

FUCKING SAKI YOU MORON
GDIAF, DON'T BE THAT ASSHAT GUY WHO HAMMERS JUST BECAUSE

SO PISSED RIGHT NOW

LYNCH MALA AND CIRNO AND SAKURA AND ONE OF {DIGI, NOTSCI} THEN IT'LL ALL BE GOOD

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ohhhhhhh Wisdom who said Cirno? I said Cirno, that's right. ;p

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A noble pursuit.

Also, fucking tip. Don't ever put someone at L-1 with Saki in the game. And don't NK Saki when he's being obvTown either.

FFFFFFF THIS GAME WAS COOL I WANT TO BE IN THE NEXT GAME YOU RUN PROBABLY

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Sweeeeet