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lurking
I feel obligated to fling shit back at the lurkers and provide a giant wall since everyone loves them so much, but I'm lazy.retired
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Wall to come, to come.In post 825, Titus wrote:
Split the difference and put a wall about the lurkers?In post 822, Saki wrote:lurking
I feel obligated to fling shit back at the lurkers and provide a giant wall since everyone loves them so much, but I'm lazy.
What do you think of Paschendale's post not to talk about each other? (Question will not have follow up unless clarification on your thoughts is needed)
"Shut the fuck up" - subtle, very subtle.
Pasche said the opposite before, sure it's not a typoIn post 829, Titus wrote:Also, why is Saki less believable than Paschendale regarding the claims?
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Now that Varsoon and I stopped playing chicken the lurkers are out to get us 'cause the lynch didn't happen and they want it to happen between Varsoon and me.In post 826, Paschendale wrote:Titus, what I asked for has been achieved. You all stopped yelling at each other and the thread can talk about some other things. It's doing that now. Other players are poking their heads up.
(Obviously none of them have put much effort into reading Varsoon or me or Titus based on all of the posts we posted.)
and that's why every single lurker is scumread.
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asking this againIn post 834, Titus wrote:The confusion regarding the middle part was due to a typo. That should have read "Why is Saki less believable than Varsoon?" I tried to clarify that in 830. Pasch said "However, I believe his counterclaim more than Saki's original claim." and I want to know why.
I'm looking forward to your wall Saki. That disagrees with my interpretation of the lurkers. I wouldn't even consider TunnelVision a lurker.
Wasn't Paschendale saying Varsoon was less believable than my claim a few pages ago? I thought he did.
Why would you not consider TunnelVision a lurker?retired
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The wall's gonna be a bit outdated, mk.
Going to sleep for tonight.retired
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For everyone slinging shit at me for the claim
-Attribute it to my newbiness
but also
-Attribute it to Titus misrep
-Attribute it to "town lurkers"
(-Attribute it to Saki being frustrated at town at that time)
I also explained my reasons for self-voting to L-1. (582)
Now shut the fuck up about it, seriously. *cough* TV and Glass *cough*
Lurker activity pre-Saki-claim (when I was the only potential lynch)
If town thought I was scum, they'd pressure me and hop on the wagon instead of leaving me at L-3 the whole time.
If town thought I was null, they'd pressure/question/try their hardest to read me and then get into the category above or below.
If town thought I was town, they'd try to prevent my lynch.
Now whoever's not doing any of these three pre-claim or even post-claim I have no problem lynching (Tunnel, Stubbs, JMO, Glass, Dyx)
TL: All of my reads on them are going to be scummy by default.
Flench is a special case I'm loving his analysis. Though he needs to apologize for leaving that vote on me the entire time.
Vote Me
Fine with lynching him tomorrow. Hope he says something after he gets back. Apparently he's not hoping to see Varsoon lynched by then, me neither. (Then I'm not fine with lynching him, I guess?)
jmo16mla
I'd stick my vote on this guy if Titus wasn't here. "I wanna lynch someone but I'm not providing any arguments for it nor am I going to defend against points made against me." String him up tomorrow or the day after.
Glass
Fine with lynching him tomorrow. Points he's making obviously show that he's not reading the thread at all. Liking his willingness to not lynch Varsoon and me but he has not provided his thoughts on alternatives and the reasons he gives for not lynching me or Varsoon (613) are pretty much bull.
StubbsKVM
Fine with lynching him tomorrow. Though he did notice the 'saki wants to claim' misrep. Though he does want to lynch JMO who's not Saki or Varsoon. Though he did actually declare V/LA. Don't like him.
CherryDrPepper
Was sure this one was scum, not so sure any more.
TunnelVision
Screams scum. Tunnel me and Varsoon and make a passing remark about Glass. Attempts to make case on scum-Varsoon reads town but I don't like his case. Says he'll tunnel me and Varsoon 'till he gets all his questions answered. Don't see him making any post direct to me so I guess his questions about me have been answered? Not liking him for letting me off the hook that easily.
Titus
His stance on me has taken a huuuuuge 180. I'm scum, you made me claim then doubted that claim and believed Varsoon's and argued my claim for a page before clearing me only to put that vote back on me again.
Recently he's come to saying that I'm newbtown for the exact same reasons he thought I was scum.She's pretty much solid scum. Lynch her today.
Paschendale
This is just here so my wall is longer.
SakiSame as Pasche.
Dyslexicon<3 780 Just wish he was more active. Rather not lynch him.
orioleDrops in and out with frequent analysis. Less active than most yet, on the iffy line between lurking and contributing. Inactivity is sorta cleared when you consider time for all that analysis and a few days to V/LA. Rather not lynch him.
FlenchLovely analysis, as I said. Probably too late to request more 'cause I wanted to see more. Inactivity is sorta cleared when you consider a day V/LA and time to do all that analysis (similar to oriole). Rather not lynch him either.
VarsoonNow, I think he's town. I still have problems with believing everything he says and his interactions with Titus. Also I do have problems with how he seems to focus only on one topic at a time and completely lose sight of others.
I has problems with his playstyle. Don't lynch him it's more likely that he'll die in another fashion.
Drop the numbers argument, please.
Whoever's using it just seems to agree that there can't be two TRBs 'cause it's a 1% chance.
Therefore one of (Saki, Varsoon) is lying and scum.
I don't get the link between this statement and the statement above. ('cause there is no link)
Also before you start sheeping Titus in that fashion
Entertain the chance that me and Varsoon are both town in general.
Entertain the chance that both me and Varsoon are both scum.
Entertain the chance that I'm TRB and Varsoon is the SK (my backup scenario in the case that I decide I don't like him as town anymore).
Or please link how me and Varsoon not being TRB due to numbers lead to the fact that we should lynch between me and him.retired
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outdated wall here.
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Also I don't think every lurker is scum but I don't like every one of them.retired
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1. His other head is not there.In post 928, Paschendale wrote:On Varsoon's wagon
In general, we should not rely on the 1v1 idea. We shouldn't bank on the odds of rolling whatever outcome. We should deduce the scum. Voting based on just an argument from probability is especially bad. Everyone who wants to lynch on that argument should not do so. It essentially makes the vote random and denies us a whole lot of information. We will begin day two without much to go on, regardless of Varsoon's alignment. If there are scum on the wagon, I would contend that they will invoke that argument.
Flench does this, but I otherwise think he's fairly towny. I want to hear more about other people or that read is likely to change.
TunnelVision does this as well, and tries to go to great lengths to defend this awful position. He also gets pissy and claims his argument is better than it is. And is a Hydra, which makes it even more complicated to read. Which head is the pissy one? And the "contradictions" are really nothing more than "Varsoon is kind of weird". They're lousy as an argument. TV is scummy scummy scum scum. And if he's not, the self-importance is going to make him a liability to town.(1)
Jmo is also relying on the 1v1 scenario. PLEASE CAN WE DROP THIS SHITTY ARGUMENT? That said, he voted Varsoon long before the big long argument, and left his vote there. No re-evaluation and not even a little bit of analysis of anyone else. Scummy.(2)
Dyslexicon is not pulling any punches, but needs to post more often and, surprise, analyze more people.
Titus is also relying on the 1v1 scenario. Please stop. I think Titus is town from her actions, but scummy from her conclusions.Leans more towards town for now.(3)
Anyone whose primary argument for voting Varsoon is "they're probably not roleblockers so we'll lynch Varsoon" needs to move their vote. Especially if they're voting Varsoon because of a townread on Saki.Especially since there is a significant lack of justification offered for that townread.(4)
Imagine if you succeed. Who the hell are we going to focus on tomorrow?Even if Varsoon flips scum, we'll know almost nothing.(5)
2. Flench did the exact same thing to me but he gets to be off the hook for it 'cause analysis?
3. Her arguments aren't scummy? ...how?
4. Yer all over the place with your read on me and Varsoon, Pasche.
5. ....I post about buddying. Oriole does an ISO. Flench makes us a 'pair of fighters' list. And you think that a Varsoon lynch will provide no information?
really, pasche.retired
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Scumpick Titus
please don't expect me to make more points against her than I already have
Townpick Varsoon.
@CherryDP
Not sure 'cause 1) I don't interpret walls that well, 2) I'm distracted by people deathtunneling me and Varsoon, 3) you aren't trying to lynch the claimed RBs.
Ihadyou down as scummy. With most posts you're inching slowly towards town.
As for why I'm voting Titus but not trying to get her lynched. Currently, this discussion is great I do not want to ruin it by starting to deathtunnel Titus and going 3-4-5 pages with just me Titus and Varsoon again (though I find that more fun ). Also, I do wish to examine the lurkers. Hear what they have to say. Other than 'shut the fuck up Saki' ofc
aaaand
We still have eleven days.
Why rush a lynch
more time = more discussion = more content-filled posts = more stuff to read people for = more chance for us to win
Hurrying a lynch imo isn't town play especially with these lurkers.
The 'lynch X today or tomorrow' lingo was just me trying to get rid of repetition. 'I think X is scum' 'I have a scumread on Y' is getting too old.
If that bothers you, fine. I'll find some other way to say 'Z is scummy'.
To confirm my stance on lynching.
I want Titus strung up D1.
TunnelVision is almost there too but narrowly escaped.
Stubbs/JMO/Glass/Dyx/Vote Me's replacement yer next after Titus.
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Subject to change over the eleven days we have left.retired
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Titus ain't the first one to do it.
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Anyone else getting a really bad vibe from this.In post 937, Titus wrote:@Tunnel - DO NOT SUPPOSE I WILL ALWAYS AGREE WITH YOU. I AM NOT YOUR MINI ME! GOT IT!retired
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Welcome, WelcomeIn post 974, Does Bo Know wrote:Xiao Long is replacing Vote Me. Please welcome him to the game!
~DBK
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@Dyx
WALL WALL WALL
so 1% chance that we're both trb so we lynch one
that said
it also proves why we shouldn't carry on with this
if you lynch one of us, flips scum the other one will be conf trb?
if you lynch one of us, flips trb the other one is confscum?
Retaking stance.
My reason for not going for a Varsoon lynch today:
1) The chance that varsoon flips town (in general, not just trb). Then I'm confscum? (is the argument being made) Not taking that chance. I have to stay alive, 'cause, you know.
2) Varsoon 'counter-claimed' but isn't trying to get me lynched like that implies. He's afraid of 1) too. Nulltell really, but let him live. 'cause if he survives D1-N1 he'll be in deep shit.retired
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I can't seem to access any sort of QT. *sigh*retired
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@Titus
Thanks.
Why do you feel the need to make that '@all' paragraph?
You were unphased by my claim and Varsoons counterclaim and kept on with your read that I was scum.
You quickly changed that read after we stopped yelling at each other and everyone else started to come back with walls.
Can you explain that?retired
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@Varsoon
I don't see a very active case against TV anywhere. Is that me just not looking hard enough?retired
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The only reason that I don't want to lynch Varsoon today is because him living into N1 means a greater chance for me to live to see D2.
If y'all are risking that then okay go ahead with lynching him.retired
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You don't mind a TRB dying.In post 1003, Titus wrote:Saki, you should be fine with dying. Yes, it sucks to lose an rber at night, but that also supposes there is no doctor to save you. The doctor would most likely camp on your house. Even if there is no doctor, Varsoon getting lynched and Saki dying is a perfect 1 for 1 trade at the start of the game.
For your own future reference, it's best to play to want to survive as a PR but don't sabotage the group's efforts because you fear dying.
Something's fishy.
@Varsoon, what?retired
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Not many ways I'd live if Varsoon is lynched D1.
Almost every single night-action would be on me N1.
Almost confident that my roleblock won't go off, either.
@Varsoon
why 180 now and not earlier?
stop throwing around scumreads, tooretired
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180 as in playstyleIn post 1017, Varsoon wrote:@Saki: 180? Hardly. I'm just starting to see the town motivation in TV's case against me, rather than otherwise, where I saw it as a lurker coming out of hiding to actively push a growing wagon. Post 1101 reeks of town, too.
Sorry about throwing scum-reads around, just thinking aloud.
Also, you won't die on N1. You'll only get lynched if town is stupid, and scum wants you to exist until people stop thinking to protect you at night/until lylo. You're useful to both teams right now, and so if either kills you, they've made a mistake that'll cost them the game.retired
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@Varsoon
revoking your claim then?retired
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sigh
look, now I'm an un-cc'd pr!
I've already decided on my roleblock target, I'll just stay quiet and wait for replacements and such
underline any questions to me
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500 posts of pure fun, mhmmIn post 1032, oriole wrote:
And you didn't feel like backing off when I said I thought you were fake-claiming 500 posts ago, or when you first said you'd be reverting to level 1 play?In post 519, oriole wrote:I'm sneaking in a quick post here, but I'm busy for another hour or so...
My impression so far is that Saki's claim is real, Varsoon is fake-claiming town because ~reasons~, and while Titus is saying some things I disagree with that doesn't make him scum.
UNVOTE:
My vote on Cherry's a bit outdated.
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with a sprinkle of douchebaggeryIn post 1036, Varsoon wrote:@Saki: All it takes is for someone else to command a strong enough voice and presence.retired
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sigh
I just can't seem to keep quiet
@Flench
policy lynch? really?
11 days to deadline on D1?retired
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I has strong feelings towards you going afk with a vote on someoneIn post 1054, Flench wrote:In post 1047, Varsoon wrote:Flench, you realize how scummy that sounds, right?
You want to string me up now because if I have time, I might prove my innocence?
Honestly, if you feel so worried about me, lynch me on D2 or D3. As of now, I've provided enough Wifom to make scum waste a NK or PR on me, which is good enough. I can say things like this due to the WIFOM already created. I can bluff right at scum because of what I've done and they have no way of knowing if I'm a PR or not, and so I'm high-risk for scum to keep alive.
Instead, Flench, you should be tracking my logic through the entire game with the knowledge that I am VT. A lot of my actions make a lot more sense once you know that.
I know how it sounds but that's how I feel when I think of people actually believing you, it makes me hopeless.
Varsoon, your logic cannot be tracked, I could make a case your posting throughout the game to be literally any role I can think of. You have no master plan, how does nobody else see this? He is just scrambling to find a way out.
I'm done posting for a while, before I get into any more trouble on my desire for Varsoon's death.
#rollout
edit: btw Varsoon, I'm a bit mad.retired
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I don't agree with this. Read through the entire thread.In post 1057, Xiao Long wrote:
Just be careful with the lynch all liars thing. In that Calvin and Hobbes game of Varsoon, Yates, who was VT, fake CC'd the doc.In post 1049, Titus wrote:Varsoon, you expect the town to be angry with you and you're voting the first guy that seems to be pissed off at you?
Your backing off deserves some analysis rather than autoscum status but you did cost us a whole hell of a lot of time Varsoon and the saying lynch all liars is there FOR A REASON.
I'll get to the other thing you asked me in a bit.
I don't like this post. I'm about half-way through my read-through, so admittedly I'm missing perhaps a lot of information, but a lot of your posts are scummy. If you're so upset with people believing Varsoon, you should probably work a bit more with actively discrediting him rather than tossing your hands up and saying, "Fuck it, vote Varsoon, and I'm out."In post 1054, Flench wrote:In post 1047, Varsoon wrote:Flench, you realize how scummy that sounds, right?
You want to string me up now because if I have time, I might prove my innocence?
Honestly, if you feel so worried about me, lynch me on D2 or D3. As of now, I've provided enough Wifom to make scum waste a NK or PR on me, which is good enough. I can say things like this due to the WIFOM already created. I can bluff right at scum because of what I've done and they have no way of knowing if I'm a PR or not, and so I'm high-risk for scum to keep alive.
Instead, Flench, you should be tracking my logic through the entire game with the knowledge that I am VT. A lot of my actions make a lot more sense once you know that.
I know how it sounds but that's how I feel when I think of people actually believing you, it makes me hopeless.
Varsoon, your logic cannot be tracked, I could make a case your posting throughout the game to be literally any role I can think of. You have no master plan, how does nobody else see this? He is just scrambling to find a way out.
I'm done posting for a while, before I get into any more trouble on my desire for Varsoon's death.
#rollout
edit: btw Varsoon, I'm a bit mad.
I'd imagine it highly likely for a townie to go "fuck it vote varsoon I'm out"
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^In post 1063, Varsoon wrote:@Jmo: Please give us something with more content or replace out of the game.retired
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you won't ever troll as hard as Varsoon is atmIn post 1065, jmo16mla wrote:
You're mad because you're getting lynched scum. Why would I replace out for finding scum?In post 1063, Varsoon wrote:@Jmo: Please give us something with more content or replace out of the game.
give up JMO
and actually scumhunt
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just remember this
Whatever Varsoon's doing he's just trying to live
I don't find that particularly scummy or particularly town unless he's VT then it's bad town play
He's trying so hard, leave him be.retired
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yay sarcasmIn post 1087, CherryDrPepper wrote:Townpoints for Saki, nice analysis, now then tell me Saki, who's more likely to want to survive.
Town or Scum.
What is Town more concerned with, and what is scum more concerned with?
-Sakura Hana
scum's more concerned about surviving
town prs are pretty close though
or just vain town in general
suicidal townies
@Titus
where the hell did I call survival instincts scummy
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Welcome, bulbazak.retired
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I'm not.In post 1099, Titus wrote:
When playing three card monte, it's easiest to have the most information if the players don't know it's a shell game.In post 1094, Varsoon wrote:Sorry if I sound arrogant, but I've been leading town all day, even if it was through absurd gambits and tricky tricks.
I've collected more info than anyone else here, and most info that others have collected is due to my interactions and agency.
Welcome back oriole. We have a new replacement for Glass as well. I cannot make heads or tails of Varsoon. Until I am certain of his alignment, prudence says to keep my vote here but I've been liking Cherry less and less throughout the day.
@Saki, In post 1086, you seemed to FoS Varsoon for wanting to survive.
@Bulbazak, Welcome. It'll be nice to play with you.
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That's why I called Varsoon a bad VTIn post 1104, CherryDrPepper wrote:Yeah it seems like my other head wanted a TV lynch, not sure if they are ok with that now with new info, while I want a Varsoon lynch because his play isn't helping town at all
@Saki: I'd say town should be more concerned with finding scum than surviving tbh.
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If he's a PR though surviving will help finding scum by quite a bit
that's why.retired
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I'm not now, not thenretired
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Finally you make a post that you're not an asshole inIn post 1126, jmo16mla wrote:Titus, how do you know this is a mislynch?
Asian guy, already said. He fucking tried to counter claim a claim. Then he claims he didn't read the setup. THEN he claims he is just a VT. Why go through the trouble of lying, an why go through the trouble of saying "I didn't read the setup" if you lied in the first place? That means e lied about not reading the setup.
I'm not ignoring you Titus. Sit and spin. Saki is town. Most I my posts are phone posts, I ten to get to address everyone completely at a computer.
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bad VT, bad!In post 1129, Varsoon wrote:Or I'm a VT who didn't read the setup who counter-claimed.
Get to a computer.retired
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hence bad vtIn post 1132, jmo16mla wrote:No? And no. You fake counter claimed. What if we had lynched saki who flipped rb? Then we would be down at least one PR.retired
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whatIn post 1131, CherryDrPepper wrote:Lynch all Liars.
Already talked with my other head, we agree on this
VOTE: Varsoon
L-1, go ahead and cl- oh wait, you already claimed.
I prefer to leave the hammer on the IC's hands.
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wait why pass on the hammer responsibility to the IC?In post 1135, Saki wrote:
whatIn post 1131, CherryDrPepper wrote:Lynch all Liars.
Already talked with my other head, we agree on this
VOTE: Varsoon
L-1, go ahead and cl- oh wait, you already claimed.
I prefer to leave the hammer on the IC's hands.
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also where the hell is 'im not going to vote without considering my other head' stanceIn post 1136, Saki wrote:
wait why pass on the hammer responsibility to the IC?In post 1135, Saki wrote:
whatIn post 1131, CherryDrPepper wrote:Lynch all Liars.
Already talked with my other head, we agree on this
VOTE: Varsoon
L-1, go ahead and cl- oh wait, you already claimed.
I prefer to leave the hammer on the IC's hands.
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:/In post 1134, Varsoon wrote:Hey, look, I admit, it was some shenanigans. Let it rest.
JMO's scummy as hell, what makes you say he's town? He's coasted to this point and pushed my lynch since the day began without every explaining -why-.
You didn't lynch Saki, though.
Thinking about lynching me is enough of an offense.retired
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IC as in Innocent child, our lovely conftownie PascheIn post 1140, jmo16mla wrote:Cherry, you realize we don't have IC's out of newbie set ups?retired
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Also guys hold the fuck up. We only got JMO and Vote Me/Xiao back. Where's Glass and Dyx?
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We already went through thisIn post 1143, Xiao Long wrote:
Is it honestly the first time you've seen a townie counter a claim to see if it's genuine? Let's go back to the original claim by Saki:In post 1126, jmo16mla wrote: Asian guy, already said. He fucking tried to counter claim a claim. Then he claims he didn't read the setup. THEN he claims he is just a VT. Why go through the trouble of lying, an why go through the trouble of saying "I didn't read the setup" if you lied in the first place? That means e lied about not reading the setup.
Saki was shit-posting and was all, "YOU WANT ME TO FUCKING CLAIM, I'LL DO IT, PUT ME AT L-2 AND I'LL SELF-VOTE AND CLAIM"
Saki was begging for votes just to get a claim out there. I certainly didn't believe the claim, because it's stupid to force yourself to claim early like that. What town PR does shit like that?
P-EDIT: Fuck sake, can you guys slow it down a little bit?
I'm sorry.retired
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It fit's Titus' paranoia completely.In post 1150, Varsoon wrote:JMO won't slow down or hold up because he's scum. Same goes for Flench.
Now, to see if the people who said they'd pull out actually do so.
P-EDIT: Don't be so spineless, Titus. You know that Pasche wants the hammer.
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I already said I was sorry for being a retard and claimingIn post 1157, Xiao Long wrote:
Nah, from what I've seen, newb PR's tend to try not to draw so much attention to themselves.In post 1148, jmo16mla wrote:One who doesn't know what to do..
Yeah, you went through it after Varsoon CC'd, so thanks for proving my point?In post 1149, Saki wrote:
We already went through thisIn post 1143, Xiao Long wrote:
Is it honestly the first time you've seen a townie counter a claim to see if it's genuine? Let's go back to the original claim by Saki:In post 1126, jmo16mla wrote: Asian guy, already said. He fucking tried to counter claim a claim. Then he claims he didn't read the setup. THEN he claims he is just a VT. Why go through the trouble of lying, an why go through the trouble of saying "I didn't read the setup" if you lied in the first place? That means e lied about not reading the setup.
Saki was shit-posting and was all, "YOU WANT ME TO FUCKING CLAIM, I'LL DO IT, PUT ME AT L-2 AND I'LL SELF-VOTE AND CLAIM"
Saki was begging for votes just to get a claim out there. I certainly didn't believe the claim, because it's stupid to force yourself to claim early like that. What town PR does shit like that?
P-EDIT: Fuck sake, can you guys slow it down a little bit?
I'm sorry.
TV flung enough shit at me for that
ok.retired
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wow you guys got bloodthirsty fast
so all of you are okay with glass and dyx not being around for this.retired
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level 5?In post 1152, Varsoon wrote:I already claimed level 4, Saki.retired
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ThenIn post 1168, Xiao Long wrote:
Glass is replaced, we're waiting for his replacement. I'm not saying rush a lynch, but everything I've seen from Jmo is just, "I'm scum, look out how town is dumb enough to let me get away with all of this bullshit."In post 1164, Saki wrote:wow you guys got bloodthirsty fast
so all of you are okay with glass and dyx not being around for this.
I would, actually, like to get Dyx's opinion on the Varsoon and the Jmo case. As well as Pasch's.
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speculation
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so coldIn post 1177, Titus wrote:Because you act like a newbtown at best and you're not exactly being helpful either.
What's your opinion on Varsoon v JMO?
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even me?In post 1179, CherryDrPepper wrote:A) The town portion of it isn't guaranteed yet, I admit you're acting more townish now, Still i cannot trust you 100% being town
B) I don't see any reason to agree with you.
Only currently confirmed town is the IC, hence why i'm more than happy to give him the hammer, i'm pretty sure any of you wouldn't be happy with anyone else hammering either.
-Sakura Hana
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not lynching either till we have the full player roster postingIn post 1181, Titus wrote:@Saki, missing questions is part of the reason people don't trust you. You focused more on the "burn" making things personal.
What are your thoughts on Varsoon and JMO?retired
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JMO
Not going to say not posting content is anti-town because then the people with the most content (Varsoon/Titus) would be almost town.
But yeah I'm hanging by a line with any sort of town-relation to him.
I guess his recent post made me want to give him one chance
one chance only
Varsoon
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he finally made a contentful postIn post 1185, Titus wrote:I expect you to say what is confusing about him, what you currently view him as and what questions you have.
I'm finding the sort of defense on JMO surprising. What does this chance entail? The group's given JMO numerous chances to contribute.
why condemn that one post already
About Varsoon (read: conflicted)
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- always steals my spotlight
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TL;DRIn post 1186, Saki wrote:
he finally made a contentful postIn post 1185, Titus wrote:I expect you to say what is confusing about him, what you currently view him as and what questions you have.
I'm finding the sort of defense on JMO surprising. What does this chance entail? The group's given JMO numerous chances to contribute.
why condemn that one post already
About Varsoon (read: conflicted)
- what. is. he. doing.
- thank you for consolidating my claim, kinda
- always steals my spotlight
- if he's really VT he needs a whack on the head
- if he's scum I hate him
I don't think the VT claim is truthful at all.retired
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