Ray Montano wrote:1. I've been off the site for...six months? But I've been here since 2008, gone nowhere else, quite loyal to MafiaScum.
Serious vote is very serious. Let's speed lynch him naow.
Ray Montano wrote:1. I've been off the site for...six months? But I've been here since 2008, gone nowhere else, quite loyal to MafiaScum.
Ray Montano wrote:I just don't understand why you're making generalized assumptions on how players should be playing based on their experience level. That doesn't make any sense. You're doing it with both myself and DK.
Ray Montano wrote:And if you want to find completed scum games of me you can go do the research and figure it out yourself.
Sky wrote:For me, it's because it seems like he's trying too hard to contribute or something. Like he has these crazy accusations of me cheating but doesn't back it up. He compares us to eachother for reasons other than his own intuition which doesn't cut it for me.
CMPunk wrote:BBmolla wrote:I really am willing to take the risk of DK being a VT. I still can't even fathom his kind of play with his 1000 posts. It doesn't add up.
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DeityKabuto wrote:Thor what do you think of my theory on you and Ray not being Mafia together, but I am certain one of them is Mafia.
CMPunk wrote:Very interested as to why, in 27 posts Ray has yet to put his vote anywhere, seems overly cautious to me and could be scum trying not to draw attention to themselves.
whispersilk wrote:I'm concerned about the early wagon on ray. Could you please explain to me why you think he deserves votes? And is it that you think he should be lynched, or are you just trying to apply pressure?
whispersilk wrote:I'm incapable of flying under any radar. I'm a smart hawt woman, ffs.
Thor665 wrote:Also, please accelerate your 'providing reads' section, I'd like to see them.
Sky wrote:Thor-Quicky reads do stimulate conversation but they were posted a few hours in, and based purely off the silliness of RVS. And, I may be wrong on this, I don't even know if everyone had posted yet.
TheFool wrote:Thor665 wrote:@TheFool - how is wagon hopping scummy in any way?
Understanding the rationale behind placing and moving votes can go a long way towards understanding that person's motives and alignment. Dodging questions about said rationale is therefore suspect.
Ray Montano wrote:Don't be silly Thor. Your case really wasn't a case so there's nothing real for me to be answering to. And there's no way you're getting meta on me. You've done nothing to show you're a credible player deserving of it.
Ray Montano wrote:I think its about time I run through my scum reads, as I think its time to start seriously looking at lynching someone.
Ray Montano wrote:I have no interest in doing such thing...because there are no such quotes and I'm acting brash by saying you should go look for them by reading when I am well aware they do not exist.
DonJosh wrote:He is, however, tunneling Ray.
Ray Montano wrote:How so? You haven't expressed any issues with my reads yet. All you've been focused so far is yourself and nothing that I've said about players.Thor665 wrote:His reads make no sense.
Ray Montano wrote:I'm not going to credit a non-sustainable offense such as "you don't scumhunt". Its the oldest Smurf offense in the book other than OMGUS.
blindfaeth wrote:PING PING PING
Tyhess is probably town???
Werewolves should kill someone who gets good at scumhunting???
I already had you marked down as leaning scum and you took a giant leap into vote territory
whispersilk wrote:I think those comments were made on purpose, and I think he has a lot of confidence in this game.
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Also DK, if he has experience playing with you, I can fully understand his joke about wanting the wolves to kill you.
blindfaeth wrote:Okie dokie. It is interesting, Thor is one of those players that seem more active than they actually are. Possibly because he's mentioned so much? Idk
Thor665 wrote:And sarcasm as regards DK - you don't get it.
Sky wrote:Something tells me that he is so overly defiant that he couldn't scum, and more just a disgruntled townie.
blindfaeth wrote:Whispersilk proves she's better at reading comprehension and basic logic than blindfaeth.
blindfaeth wrote:Please explain why you're so convinced he isn't. Regardless of whether DK is scum or not, there are two factions.DK does not have to be tyhess' teammate to be scum.
blindfaeth wrote:Oh wait, that's right. You think that tyhess is town because he voted with you on Ray, right? Anyone who agrees with you is good and anyone who doesn't, or accuses you, is bad, right?Wrong.
blindfaeth wrote:Something sat wrong with me about his logic here.
blindfaeth wrote:All of the responses are snarky. I don't know why you expect me to find you OR tyhess genuine when all you are doing all the time is being sarcastic.
blindfaeth wrote:And when you are talking about his response to the DK lynch, do you mean the post where he said "Don't lynch, he's at L-1"?? Is that all it takes to convince you that they are town?
blindfaeth wrote:Hey, no one lynch DK, alright? kthxbai.
blindfaeth wrote:here you advocate Ray's lynch regardless of alignment because you think he can't scumhunt.
Thor665 wrote:Ray should still be lynched, unless someone can quote me a post where he is actually scumhunting. He's an experienced player and he doesn't seem to know how to scumhunt - that doesn't worry anyone else? It worries the everlovin' frell out of me.
blindfaeth wrote:hmmm
Sorry I have to agree with Ray on this one. Isn't he the one who went out of his way to say this is his alt and he does not want to disclose his main account?
Ray Montano wrote:For the record, I did say I wasn't going to give my alts but not in as firm of terms as blind would suggest.
Ray Montano wrote:Note: Don't be an Smurf Thor. I've made it very clear how many positioning on players has changed. If I thought you were scum I would be campaigning against you. My position on you switched from firmly believing you're town to slightly less so. Don't play the Smurfing victim.
blindfaeth wrote:Ok so can we compromise or something? When you're being sarcastic can you like, change the font color to orange or something?
blindfaeth wrote:Anyway, accusing people of being scum is part of the game; calling people dumb isn't. So we will just have to agree to disagree that it was an insult. I have a bachelor's degree, thanks.
Ray Montano wrote:The Tick wrote:Well, blindfaeth's off my heel list.
*Sorry totally not game related* I'd just like to say I'm really pleased with the use of pro wrestling terms.
Thor665 wrote:Wanna point out where I misrepped you or me in that exchange?
Thor665 wrote:Would you like to quote some of the scumhunting and rub my face in it for laughs?
blindfaeth wrote:Could you kindly point me to your case on Ray because we must have different opinions on what a case is.
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But I have to agree that it doesn't feel like a case, maybe more an assortment of points against him.
BBmolla wrote:@Blind: Your case is good. It's wrong, but it's good.
DeityKabuto wrote:Thor if Ray happens to be lynched and flips Town, do you think you would deserve the blame?
The Tick wrote:Thor - This Ray wagon you're trying to build irks me. Besides his unwillingness to cooperate with you, it just doesn't have any backbone to it (unless I'm missing something).
The Tick wrote:Still, for just a couple seconds, pretend you're the teacher and I'm the student. Teach me why we should whack this guy.
DeityKabuto wrote:About time you give a legit explanation of your vote on Ray >_>
Ray Montano wrote:Whatever your understanding is...doesn't make any sense. Your "belief" is half-Smurfed, you don't truly believe I've stated anything about an alt in a QT or whatever you're trying to claim. Its straight up bull. Evidenced by the fact you drop this later while stating your case on me.
Ray Montano wrote:I think its kind of a way of pandering himself to you, which doesn't sit right with me. If blind were scum and he believed you to be town it would make a lot of sense. Scum generally tend to make a sort of ally of themselves to a town player who they believe to be strong and have great sway in the town's opinion. I think he finds himself coming off a little in the worst in your guys' exchange and needs to find a way to find himself in your good favor.
Ray Montano wrote:In case I do get lynched, don't be stupid tomorrow. YOU could probably garner a lot from the interactions of the players who have been advocated my lynch and defended against it. If you really are a good player you could catch scum off it. Otherwise...you're a Smurfy town player...or you're scum.