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i didn't see jakesh's vote, but whatever. i don't have an issue with you being at L-2.
neil wrote:all of them are obviously comfortable with your lynch for them to be wagoning you...
please don't assume things. you are making a blanket statement here that has no base in fact. i'm comfortable with him at L-2, not sure if i would have hammered him on page 4.town 39-32
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not playing stupid. just pointing out that you are assuming everyones intentions. some players vote for pressure. yes, every vote carries a certain inherent intent to lynch, but you seem to implying something much more devious. like some sort of quicklynch attempt was being made. lighten up. and don't call me stupid.town 39-32
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coventry should claim. he's obviously outed himself by virtue of the fact that he obviously doesn't have a townie pm or he would have understood the venge kill mechanic. his posts read town, but not understanding how the game works is going to hurt us. if you are power, claim with targets before scum shoot you.town 39-32
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yeah, good point. i'm not really paying attention.
vote: coventry
because he's posting the shit out of this thread so theres no way he could be paying less attention than me and yet he still couldn't seem to grasp the venge kill mechanic even though its part of the only townie pm. *breathes*
uh huh.town 39-32
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Coventry wrote:Shotty and Don_Johnson,
Dumb is dumb and misinterpreting Sigma's death scene was certainly dumb on my part. Would either of you care to explain how that would make it more likely that I was scum, though?
its not that you "misinterpreted" it. you seemed to have no idea that a venge kill mechanic existed.
does anyone else have "the marakesh express" playing in their head every time they post in here?
hiraki, you know i'm town. get on the coventry wagon. you were willing to test your theory with the vifam wagon, why not coventry?town 39-32
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why has noone answered my question?
anyhow, i like how you avoid the question you quote hiraki. thats smooth.
coventry made a scumslip regarding the pm. not sure why the mod would send her a different pm than the rest of us, but whatever.
if its me or someone else, i'll be voting someone else. so yeah. i'm pretty content with lynching anyone but me right about now. heres a list in order of preference:
coventry
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vifam
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longing.
thats actually in no particular order. now, tell me again how you think scum would be playing in a set-up like this. everyone, thank you.town 39-32
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Coventry wrote:
No. A better question is why.
no. i am obviously not wallposting cases in this game so asking me "why?" seems like a waste of time. noone can give me a reason why i am scummy aside from pointing to my playstyle, which is simply the least accurate way to scumhunt. vifam is criticizing those of us who are voting and saying things like "lynches don't just happen," but is not doing anything himself to achieve a lynch. i.e. its just a bit hypocritical. all i'm saying is i want him to give me a reason not to lynch him, and he doesn't. but whatever.
coventry wrote:Not that you're voting for Vifam any longer anyway. Now you're voting for Hiraki.
pay attention. my vote is on vifam.
coventry wrote:And by the way, Hiraki taking his vote off Vifam when you put your vote on Vifam is a town tell, though it's not enough to give me a town read for him.
how so? hiraki said a vifam lynch would help determine donscum, but when don supports him he changes tune? i was voting vifam when you were still peeing your pants and stumbling into coffe tables while yuour parents were getting drunk at the bar next door. jk. but seriously, what has changed between then and now that makes hiraki want to change his stance. has vifam done something pro-town that i missed? is hiraki backtracking on his earlier hypothesis? the fact that you are ignoring these things does not bode well for you.
cov wrote: At this point I would be tempted to jump off any wagon that had you and Shotty both on it, no matter what I thought my reads were telling me. I'm sorry, but your behavior has been that consistently suspect.
what "behavior"? i've been voting rather consistently. are you referreing to my playstyle? what are your reads telling you that you are choosing to ignore?town 39-32
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vifam: i did not ignore 323, in fact, it reinforces my scumread of you. in it you say that hiraki is scum, and that i am also scum. is hiraki/dj scumteam really still plausible to you? and if so, why? the fact that you havent moved your vote from hiraki to me forces me to assume you are still hard on for the hiraki lynch. as sig's flip showed us, some of the bigger proponents of the neil lynch may very well be town. do you think the people actively pushing neil are more likely to be scum than those players who simply hopped the wagon? which category do you place hiraki in(pusher or hopper)?
cov: the more i think about your "pm mistake", the more i think it actually confirms you as town. i have to assume that scum have daytalk, which would make your "mistake" a town tell or the cleverest scum gambit i have ever seen. so i apologize for that. in regards to vifam, i think his voting record(being on the mislynch) is reason enough for a certain amount of suspicion. i don't have "reason" to vote him other than PoE, his mislynch vote, and his recent posts which just don't seem to make sense(hiraki/dj scumteam suggestion). so whatever. i think he is a good place to start in looking for scum on the mislynch wagon. at this point i will be very surprised if he flips town. i don't think hiraki is a great lynch as i get the feeling he may be in the same boat as sigma(well-intentioned but misguided town).town 39-32
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seriously, go back and reread from the day 1 lynch forward and then ask yourself why hiraki would possibly have unvoted vifam to vote dj. according to hiraki(who you pointed out manufactured a false history of vifam suspicion) dj town=vifam town and vifamscum=djscum. so there is no reason AT ALL to move his vote the way he did unless he is scum with vifam. think about it. if you guys want to lunch hiraki first i am game, but i'd like to start with vifam out of sheer pride(i.e. i nailed him on day 1 while the neil wagon was chugging in the wrong direction.)town 39-32
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you havent asked me a single question. i'm not ignoring your posts. there is noting relevant in them to me. i am not completely sold on hiraki scum, otherwise i would probably have already switched. you are my biggest scum read atm, have been since early on. you were on the neil wagon. sorry, but there is no "case" against me that i can see other than a dislike of my playstyle. hunting off the day 1 mislynch wagon is suboptimal. thats basic mafia theory. you claim i am "ignoring" your posts, but you haven't posted jack shit. now why would you leave the mildly successful hiraki wagon for the dj wagon? very similar to hirakis move. its ok if you guys want to bus each other. finding really mediocre reasons to jump off each other wagons is pretty poor form. we're better off voting the players more likely to be scum considering this is effectively lylo. lynching the guy who had a town read on a townie on day 1 and seems to be ruffling the feathers of two main suspects is probably not the best lynch, don't ya think? now, about this "ignoring", hows about you format some questions for me and then i'll answer them.
edit: now you are accusing hiraki of bussing which proves that your wagon hop was a lateral move. what purpose does it serve for you to move from a larger to a smaller wagon in what is effectively lylo?town 39-32
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i thought vifam did great. he took advantage of a lackidaisical town. i had you guys split into oversoul/vifam and shotty/crypto at the end. should have gone with my original gut. and i wish shotty would have put in a little more effort.
shotty: i have been in your situation before(where you have the scumteam nailed), and i only say this from experience, but in that situation you have to start posting your ass off and appealing to the players you think are town. by not addressing crypto and i, you left me little to work with. but whatever. town didn't lose because of us. we'll get em next time.town 39-32
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