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Oh glorious days! Finally Shattered speaks truth in his adoration for me....<3 Absolutely!
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wait a second...
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the shattered I know would never do that!
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Scum found!
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You must also pay for your insolence... cut the lemon in quarters!Oh, my bad. I thought that the additional town player was meant to make no lynching a better alternative than in 12p games in D1, based on percentages.... People were right it seems....-
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Eh hrm.. wha?Also, if I had a second vote, it would be on silverbullet right now. The fact that there's a mafia game going on in this thread seems to have somehow escaped him completely.
I already found scum! read my posts!
You must be second scum for making the assumption! 2 scum found... one more to go... right?... People were right it seems....-
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A fireside chat in a snowy wooden cabin... I like I think!It can be all nice and cozy and you can pretend we're by a fireplace if it will make you feel more relaxed.
Aurorus is a lemon.. some people don't like lemons... thus his wagon is people who don't like lemons. I personally like lemons and don't see a small lemons mistake as some master plan from an evil lemon.What do you think of the AurorusVox wagon? Do you think the aaaah400 wagon was an improvement? Is Uite really scum? Who lives in a pineapple under the sea?
aaaah400 is voting me so his wagon is an improvement!
Uite is scum? Sure Uite is scum... All scum found game over town wins!
That last one is a trick question to make me look like scum!... People were right it seems....-
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Ahh you mis rep me mr kitty! that is further why you are second scum!So you're saying:
1. you don't think AuroraVox is scummy
2. aaaah400 is scum because he's voting for you
3. Uite is scum....just because?
4. No, actually the 4th question was so you would be less intimidated by being interrogated.
1. correct
2. nope but his wagon is an improvement
3. there needs to be a third so sure why not
4. that's the joke... People were right it seems....-
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Welll
I said this
He posted with no retort thus I concludeAhh you mis rep me mr kitty! that is further why you are second scum!
1. correct
2. nope but his wagon is an improvement
3. there needs to be a third so sure why not
4. that's the joke
and thus I further concludeNo retorts? So you accept my truths!You accept my truths, thus my truths are true... thus
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-Kitty (Whom I will stop calling Kitty McKittens, apologies but it was like McDonalds... except with kittens)
Translates to I don't see his small mistake as some mistake generated from him because he's scum (ala I don't see his mistake as scummy)Aurorus is a lemon.. some people don't like lemons... thus his wagon is people who don't like lemons. I personally like lemons and don't see a small lemons mistake as some master plan from an evil lemon.
You admit to misrepping me for aaah (cause my truths were truth) though so no pie for you.... People were right it seems....-
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Lemons sayingWhy do you not think his "mistake" was scummy and why do you call it a mistake?
Seems like a legit mistake to me (I sees no big deal about the mistake either way).Oh, my bad. I thought that the additional town player was meant to make no lynching a better alternative than in 12p games in D1, based on percentages.
yes, cause you scum! (more justification to your voteeee)Also, do you think I intentionally misrepped you about aaah? (and if so, why?)... People were right it seems....-
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Further misrep! read my words in the ()No, it doesn't work that way. You're saying I'm scum because I misrepped you and I misrepped you because I'm scum. That's completely circular. What about this misrep leads you to believe it was intentional?
for example (read these in prior post)... People were right it seems....-
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*blush* at the compliment!silver, would you start taking this game seriously, please? We have a lot of potential VI-ish people in this game, and we don't really need you as one of them. I know you can actually play.
*grumble* at supposedly not being serious! (Lighthearted though? sure!)
-Kitty!
I would suggest listening to this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDYw-61NRic) as you read my words!
There is no troll here this day!Damn it, I was being trolled >.< I guess this is what I get for not trying to meta him earlier...
You have misrepped me twice so far this game!
*coughs to clear throat to present case... this is where the music above should be blasting*
*Is going to use " " and bold to directly quote things vs having a bunch of quote windows to drive me mad*
First misrep!
I said"aaaah400 is voting me so his wagon is an improvement!"
which you translated to"aaaah400 is scum because he's voting for you"
Using this misrep you further say (in same post)"We've learned that silverbullet has opinions on who's town and who's scum (based on things like who's voting for him)"
Upon which you justify with your vote on me!
I posted a reply upon which you had no retorts thus I make the assumption that what I point out was true and you (from what I see) agree, also earning my vote!
Anyway we talk of cherries and pies and biscuits for awhile but then!
The Second Misrep!
You ask this"Also, do you think I intentionally misrepped you about aaah? (and if so, why?)"
Which I reply with"yes, cause you scum! (more justification to your voteeee)"which means (you did the misrep to further justify your vote).
However you misrep it as"No, it doesn't work that way. You're saying I'm scum because I misrepped you and I misrepped you because I'm scum. That's completely circular. What about this misrep leads you to believe it was intentional?"
And then talk of trolls and knights and fantasy adventures was brought up!
That Ladies and Gents is the Case! Good Day!
Also would anyone post the case on the ConMan? I'd appreciate itsss.... People were right it seems....-
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YAY!you win.
Boo!*turns off music*
As for your replies... it's the lazy man's excuse if you get my meaning.. I'll buy it though.. for now!
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-The Hybrid Of A Demon!
I'm in that 1 percent too! I know when I'm wrong! (Though I'm never wrong here... but that's besides the point!)Trust me, I'm not like 99% of Mafiascum; I know when I'm wrong.... People were right it seems....-
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- The Hybrid of a Demon
You are right! Replacing out on it's own is NEVER indicative of malicious intent! I agree completely... but wait... did I say that Aaah simply replacing out is indicative of such things? The answer is no.Replacing out is NEVER indicative of malicious intent.
Top 3 reasons (imo) that people replace out
1. Not enough time
2. Not enjoying the game
3. Feeling that they aren't playing their role well
Now I said "replacement? But she didn't request replacement in my other game as of yet.... I sense evil motivations here..."
And she still has not requested replacement in said game. Thus reason number 1 is void.
There have been no indications of reason number 2 in her posts (even though you can still argue this) there is no hard evidence... thus I feel it's safe to void this as well.
This... by the amazing process of elimination leaves option 3...
I'll do you one better than an fos though.. you get the HOS... for trying to defend your buddy.... People were right it seems....-
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Nope not quite bud.. it's your logic in question.
I explained why I see scum motivation for replacement. I HoS you (hand of suspicion!) and you get scared and vote me in a sly poker way. I do the same.You HoSed me for defending who you think is scum. I voted you for confirming what I FoSed you for. And then you voted me.
The basis of my argument is that I saw scum motivation behind the replacement, you quickly misrep me stating that replacing alone does not give scum motivations... I reply and agree with what you state, and correct you by telling you what i actually said... and then you get defensive and vote me... how does any of this imply I know aaah is scum? Why are you even trying to manipulate the argument in question?The BASIS of your argument against me is a fallacy; you should not know if aaah is scum at this point.
Let me answer this with your own postTherefore, your argument against me is a fallacy, is null and void, and your vote should be on aaah.
I'm in no rush to end the day... why are you?By the way, that's especially in lieu of the fact that the biggest wagon at the moment is on aaah.
Nope, you first you scared demon you.So, please hang.... People were right it seems....-
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What is wrong here, silver?
Hmmm.... when was I on aaah's wagon? More slip-ups I see.You take your vote off of HIS wagon and place it on ME
Depends on if he's one of the leading wagons and is somewhat the focus of the town at that particular time.What if he had replaced out of his other game but stayed in this one?
Once again you ignore my posts please read my reply to this once again.Meanwhile, aaah's wagon sits there with the most votes.
Nope I believe your scum for your over reaction to a simple vote and for ignoring basically all retorts that I've presented by trying to disclaim it on the above quote.You believe that I'm scum because aaah is scum and I'm his buddy, and I'm defending him.
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If I said guys.. I'm V/LA for three days in this game... and not in any others... and I'm perfectly active in said others... would you or would you not find it suspicious?... People were right it seems....-
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-The Ever Arrogant Hybrid of a Demon
Yes one post where I actually state I approve the wagon def means I'm talking about it all the time.Oh, I'm sorry. I apologize, because you were talking so much about being glad that aaah was being wagoned
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no please read my iso number 20.Does DRK's revelation change this?
Let's not readily forget the order of events so quickly eh?I think that's scummy, so I FoSed/Voted you for it.
You fos me, I hos you, your reaction? you vote me in a sly way completely ignoring the retort so, I vote you.
No, I like that aaah is being put under pressure, for the 4th time AGAIN his wagon was high enough as is... AGAIN I ask you why you want this day to end so early?You imply that you know aaah's alignment when you voted me and completely ignored his wagon. If you think that he's scum, you should have put your vote on him the second you said you agree with his wagon. You should not have turned the guns on me. I don't even care when I get voted, but in this context, it's scummy of you, because you are creating the illusion of scumhunting while outputting inconsistent reads.
My vote has set you off... because for whatever reason you think that I think aaah is scum and think that I should be voting aaah... which you have stated repeatidly... and I've replied to repeatidly.
What's that quote in relation to? My vote on you? wait.. nope.. it's what then.. an hos... oh yeah that's right.Funny...I must have been dreaming when this was posted.
If you replace out of one game without mentioning anything prior to it then I'm going to find it suspicious, because as I stated in iso 20 there's mainly 3 reasons that I forsee for such action.If you replace out in one game but post in the others, that isn't indicative of a damn thing.
A. This is more suspicion cast on you... not her.But yeah, way to throw out suspicions like candy.
B. You asked her a question, she mentioned it was somewhere and did some slight research to find it cause she wanted to make sure she was right... she did... nothing overly special here.... People were right it seems....-
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For the last time read my reply to this and at this point hell no i'm more than happy with the reaction you've given from my vote.don't you think your vote should be on him?
Do you just like to contionously ignore the reason i've stated for this already?Do I not prove a point though? That you're pushing wagon suspicion without voting?
The general consensus it seemed according to several people was that it was a null read (Upon skimming it)... and it's not under the specific scenario that we are in now, honestly her later reaction drops the whole thing completely and it's your reaction I'm more than interested in now.DRK posted sitewide evidence and you choose to arbitrarily believe what you think is right?
Then why did you not vote me until after I hosed you, why did you bother giving me a fos? I don't tend to bother with fos hos or whatever else there is and the hos was how I am as I've been throughout this game... your reaction you vote me... thus it's gladly returned and we get this.But you're saying I voted you cause you HoSed me. I voted you cause you pushed the aaah suspicion very baselessly,
Your saying that I should add my vote to aaah... yet if I do that aaah get's rather close to a lynch... thus highering the possibility for ending the day early... this is inconsistent.And again, I don't. You've completely ignored my point.
Really? Someone's getting pissed... I wonder whyy...You've said nothing just now. Just the equivalent of dumbfounded babbling.
No I asked a question with a slight relation to the issue that was at hand.You completely ignored the fact that I called out your straw man argument.
Please learn the definition of buddying up to someone. (Maybe there's some special definition or some standard definition that you are following thus I'll give you mine)Yeah, because when two people are scumbuddies, one is less scum than the other.
Buddying up - The action of complimenting/praising/similar such action (ala buddying up) in order to gain "points" from that player.... People were right it seems....-
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Initial suspicion, yes... your over reaction pushed that initial suspicion passed itThe fact that your suspicion was based on me being aaah's buddy and defending him still stands. Your words, not mine.
I completely disagree with this quote... nothing's written in stone m8.It is a null read, that's my point. And it doesn't matter the specifics; replacing out will always be a null read despite the pressure, lack of or past history with replacing out.
No you keep ignoring MY own point.. I don't know what the vote count on aaah is or was currently (upon checking the last vote count aaah was at L-2...) Why the hell would I push aaah into L-1 or even hammer him by accident when it is not my aim to end the day asap.I don't get why you think I want to end the day early; I'm pointing out inconsistency in your logic and all you do is keep changing the subject onto imaginary scumtells.
*face palm*2. You again ignored my point.
You ignored mine...
the only difference is up... I quoted only your post and remarked on it... don't see how the confusion was made that I linked you as scum buddies at all in the post...Please learn the difference between "buddying" and "buddying up"
no, you gained my vote by voting me.1. I know why you would suspect me now. But what gives, with your original suspicions? Why you originally voted me? Was that or was that not because of me "buddying" with aaah, who you thought was scum (this is a yes or no answer question)?
no but undoubtedly you will disagree with your logicz2. Was your V/LA example a straw man argument or not? This is also a yes or no answer question.
The only thing dropped for aaah is the replacement issue i had because he A. stated his reasons for replacement and B. somehow one way or another fixed it and is still in.3. In fact, what the hell is up with you thinking that aaah is town now, or at the very least, less scum? And what reaction of his convinced you of such?... People were right it seems....-
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A. I'm unpredictable >:D ?So, why were you going against what you were supposed to do in mafia?
B. "I don't know what the vote count on aaah is or was currently "
C. There were a few people mentioning their suspicion of aaah anyway
Eh? You voted me after my HoS... upon which I voted you. I don't get your point.Still, what I am voting you for is that little bit of suspicion between your HoS and your vote for me. Such is my point.
No you ignored the point where I told you that quote was from the hos... not my vote.I ignored your "Someone's getting pissed" point?
How does Kitty's reply = he's buddying up with you? Also I've been in games where it has been simply called buddying... Nonetheless this is unimportantimplies that both parties are involved.
I dunno... I don't really see how it's "weakened" your argument... it's more or less the same thing except the person requests replacement (and using my top 3 reasons)... you eliminate 2 of the 3 at the time thus leaving that.Would you agree, then, after hearing this, that it's a straw man argument?
YesNoted. But you still like his wagon?
we have no choice : P and sameBy the way, I apologize for the walls. I fucking hate them, too, but I have no choice.
(Ends up owning a page or more with someone else in most of his games... you are one of the more enjoyable ones though)... People were right it seems....-
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Laziness says otherwiseDo your own vote count.
I had a feeling he could be... not strong enough to do a vote that could kill him, also still wanted the case on con at the time.If you had legitimately believed that aaah is scum, you should have at least considered voting him and before me.
The HoS was more or less thrown to see if you had any sort of reaction to it. As I said I don't deal with those much so you defended aaah with your reasoning thus I could see you being more inclined to do that as scum vs town since you'd know the alignment of him.The HoS was suspect because you suspected me for being aaah's buddy when you didn't even know aaah's alignment.
Your opinion, not mine... had aaah stated dislikement of the game and severe frustration or any similar reasons PRIOR to the mod announcement being made, I wouldn't have felt the way I originally had.It is not frowned upon if you replace out of one game but stay in your others.
If you flip scum then I'd be somewhat confident with that.And so, do you believe that we're buddies?... People were right it seems....-
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but you.. but... the.. post... but all this time... but...I have "Kitty" in my username. Do I really seem male? :s
my mind's blown... females are crazy...
I see the over caution in his second to latest post... and he likes giving lots of fos's vs just throwing an actual vote down... I wanna see a few more posts though... plus... I still gotta win this poker match with The Hybrid of a Demon though, as he's my "champ" for the moment.What do you think of CS?... People were right it seems....-
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(please play amusement park theme here { http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDYw-61NRic })I may have skipped the silver-DH back and forth in my re-read.
Come one, Come all!
Read The Argument Between Me And Demon!
See How He Wanted Me To Put Aaaah At L-1
See How My Vote Scared Him So Very Much
See How He Will Further React To My Attack!
Vote Demon!
See Demon Get Further Scared!
Come one, Come all!
Children are even allowed
I'll even let them join for free!
Huzzah Huzzah
Fireworks Show Promised Afterwards!... People were right it seems....-
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You wanted me to put my vote on him... you stated that several times... putting a vote on person brings them closer to a lynch... you wanting someone to vote someone is wanting them to bring them closer to a lynch.... thuss ladies and gents... what is the conclusion?I already explained it like 50 times, and each time, you paint the false picture that I want aaah lynched instead of me wondering why you didn't hop on his wagon if you liked it so much. I'm not sure if that's just you being dumb or you're feigning ignorance to misrepresent me, or both.... People were right it seems....-
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Alright now my mind is completely blown here... ignoring the "insults" (No i'm not insulted by them or am asking you to stop or whatever nonsense so carry on with it! )
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How... now... have I been switched to town in your eyes?silver is upgraded to extremely retarded town
Also i'll go back and find quotes when i'm not as lazy... People were right it seems....-
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Hah great i'm a VI... sweet... but moments ago you considered it perhaps feigned...You've shown great stupidity so far and I honestly think you'd be more careful and more calculated and at least fucking read if you were definite scum. That's about it. I still don't think your advocation of the aaah wagon without action was a townish move but I have bigger fish to fry at the moment.
I'm really gonna be hard pressed to move my vote... though I'm saddened that it will probably have to happenI'm not sure if that's just you being dumb or you're feigning ignorance to misrepresent me, or both.... People were right it seems....-
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aaah is the wrong way to go damn it...
I still want demon's head but that's not gonna come is it.
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VOTE: Uite
We've been promised a super analytical look for so long with a weekend passing with little to no activity and still this post has not been made. Maybe i'm also leaning with meta here a little bit, but this lurking is not the townie uite i know (granted that was in a newbie game... but still)... People were right it seems....-
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http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14261Interesting. Can you link that newbie game? I'd like to take a look in it.
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I like you not posting any reasons at all... that's even less than your previous slot did! Gain 10 coins!... People were right it seems....-
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silverbullet999 Mafia Scum
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silverbullet999 Mafia Scum
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silverbullet999 Mafia Scum
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silverbullet999 Mafia Scum
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silverbullet999 Mafia Scum
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Really... a threat of voting? Is this supposed to scare me or something?No, you are, or my vote will go right back on you.
I'm not going to willfully break rules to simply serve you demon... I've more than hinted at what you should look at if you care to put in any effort at all.... People were right it seems....-
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silverbullet999 Mafia Scum
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Hey moron... if you actually read my post 357 and 359 you'll actually see what I'm hinting at... Uite knows exactly what i'm talking about so don't give me this bullshit "oh he's being cryptic".. stop being an overdramatic bastardIdiot. I want an explanation for completely flipping your read from aaah scum to aaah town. You've given absolutely NO REASONING but "Oh...just cause. Nothing cryptic here, guys! Seriously."... People were right it seems....-
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