Open 792: Masons and Monks GAME OVER

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Hayasaka
meta

[Dunnstral]

Worry worry not cause I'm with you

Tbh this is going to sound dumb.
But I have pretty deep meta on how MariaR enters games and I think she is town here.

You're right

[Dunnstral]

(not on the maria being town part)

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Hayasaka put more thought into analyzing my vote than I did into making it, that's for sure

[Dunnstral]

In fact I think they put

too

much effort into analyzing it... I'm suspicious

[Dunnstral]

Dram hates wordy bs from scum which isn't an unfair assessment of my post about Dunn.

uh what

[Dunnstral]

@Dunn

65: Jokes or srs?

Serious, I thought it was midly suspicious that they seemed to overexplain themself when somebody pointed to them

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: agar

Whatever. I agree my initial read was awful but agar is caught for the wrong reasons.

So what is he caught based off of?

Ya okay I'll bite

vote: davesaz

VOTE: sircakez

I'm not a fan of either of these votes. I thought sircakez/dave were looking pretty good.

[Dunnstral]

I feel like this is the same dunn town intro I’ve seen in minis 2153 and 2148.

Ah yes, mini two thousand one hundred and fifty three, and mini two thousand one hundred and forty eight. Good times, probably

[Dunnstral]

NotSci explain your AGar and Dunnstral read.
I don't care how shit the explanation is.

You don't have to be so fixated on me you know

[Dunnstral]

When I voted Hayasaka and said meta that was actually just an rvs vote....... there wasn't meta involved

I think I read something about scum resistance to wagons in here - that's not a good tell when the scum teams are size 2

[Dunnstral]

Your iso is full of one liners and unexplained votes and is bad

[Dunnstral]

No I really didn't, if the game is this one: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=83299

You can see I was explaining things in that game, now look at elements and he's talking about nothing

[Dunnstral]

Hayasaka has requested replacement, I will be offering the slot to one party who expressed some interest before posting to the Replacement Request

[Dunnstral]

A50 town.

Nah

Do you think they're scum, or do you disagree with the townreads, and why?

UNVOTE: Innocentvillager

[Dunnstral]

A50 town.

Nah

Do you think they're scum, or do you disagree with the townreads, and why?

UNVOTE: Innocentvillager

this is a good unvote, Dunn always knows I’m town and I always know Dunn is town

Eh what, I unvoted before you posted. Or maybe the joke went over my head

A50 town.

Nah

Do you think they're scum, or do you disagree with the townreads, and why?

UNVOTE: Innocentvillager

I think hes scum, his spamminess early on was bad and then his reaction to my push felt very constructed.

I think spamminess = anti-town is not a good argument. Some people are just like that

[Dunnstral]

zzz... huh, whuzzut?

Ele/Mala/NM/Dramonic seem to be the only people I'd vote d1 here

ok why, convince me so I have somewhere to vote

[Dunnstral]

So meta null instead of meta town

[Dunnstral]

Tell me why you shouldn't be invited to be our first departure.

Dunnstral - Very standard for meta, very unreadable, very null

because of this

Threatening someone to make them talk is less effective when the threat gets defused. :(

I have a better idea, why don't you vote for somebody you scumread instead?

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I'd be willing to work with the people I think are town to eliminate their scumreads who aren't themselves people I think are town.

ok... who are the people who you think are town?

[Dunnstral]

I don't have strong opinions his game, why are there 4 votes on Malakittens?

[Dunnstral]

*this

[Dunnstral]

I don't have strong opinions his game, why are there 4 votes on Malakittens?

She seems very different from her limited availability in 2148. You were there too- doesn’t she seem like way more of a nonentity this game?

At this point I accepted my death.

Why?

[Dunnstral]

This has an about random chance of hitting scum and we don't have any leads for tomorrow. It's too late to change now, but still

[Dunnstral]

also when if ever do we want the masons and monks to claim?

Not today

At least one from each scum side was on that wagon.

Based on what?

I may join you once everybody chimed in. The kills don't look inspired, but the IV one "may" have had some thought behind it.

But that's not all. You voting off wagon also means you are trying to avoid voting the other scum team (and will hunt for them at night).

Are these both in response to The Bulge? Do you agree with his vote or not?

[Dunnstral]

nevermind, you're talking about N_M wagon. Why is there one from each side on there, though?

[Dunnstral]

Disagree strongly with the take that A50 is town but I also would just love to yeet the spam posting to 2016.

I don't have a clue what most people's reads are on most players. Because nobody other than me is taking a position (with reasons) on more than 1-2 other players.

Buddy,,,

It's day fucking 1.

Would not yeet {Dram/A50/IV/Xayah/notty}

How did you get from point a to point b?

[Dunnstral]

A50 town.

Just because people could be LHF doesn't mean they can't get a scum role PM. How are people reading notsci? If this was single ball I'd be TRing them rn :(

About to pass out cause woo illness but IV os obv town thanks to Haya

Listen out of obligation I'm forced to scumread A50 so I get credit for his flip if he ends up executed

I could see Xayah making either of these nightkills, and also her posts are lame

VOTE: Xayah

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Elements

Yeah should've stuck to this.

You were never on Elements before now

[Dunnstral]

I'm playing like I always do... which is generally to not be very interested in the game day 1 and then pick up from there as stuff starts to happen

[Dunnstral]

Remove the meta then

I was generally not very interested in the game day 1 and then picked up from there as stuff started to happen (namely people dying and town being in a bad situation with no cross kills)

The Bulge & numerous other members did the opposite - they started posting less when town got in a worse situation

And yes, I also think Elements is suspicious/likely scum

[Dunnstral]

I could see some pressure on dram being useful

I disagree

we need to start killing people who are very likely scum

[Dunnstral]

I'd vote Elements over SirCakez

I doubt anyone was trying to get Hayasaka to replace out if that is what is being implied

[Dunnstral]

It was cold on the mountain, perhaps a light coat was a bad choice.

Votecount 1.02

Hayasaka (5):

Dunnstral, AGar, SirCakez, Elements, dramonic

davesaz (2):

Hayasaka, notscience

dramonic (2):

Xayah, davesaz

Not_Mafia (2):

Not_Mafia, Almost50

Elements (1):

The Bulge

Not Voting (1):

Malakittens

With 13 in residence, it takes 7 votes to send someone down the mountain.
Day 1 will end in (expired on 2020-08-31 17:40:00)

This vc was on page 5 and the wagon on Hayasaka quickly fell apart; I was the only person voting them when they replaced out, so that's a little misleading

[Dunnstral]

Why are you even self voting right now?

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I find it hard to believe that elements gives up and self votes here as town when there's 4 scum alive. Does he think everyone sussing him is town or what is he doing

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Elements

so that's BO-1, claim before bump off

[Dunnstral]

So I was gonna check if Elements was coached in that game A50 linked, and there wasn't a mafia pt.
That game changes my Elements meta quite a bit. It's going to take a while to assimilate, but on ISO it doesn't appear Elements was a follower in that game.

Also I don't get if you're saying he's towny or scummy here

[Dunnstral]

or maybe everyone else should figure out my playstyle is clearly town

Does he think everyone sussing him is town or what is he doing

[Dunnstral]

Eventually the mod had to return, right?

Votecount 2.03

Elements (4):

Xayah, Almost50, AGar, Dunnstral

AGar (1):

Elements

Almost50 (1):

SirCakez

dramonic (1):

The Bulge

Xayah (1):

davesaz

davesaz (1):

dramonic

Not Voting (1):

Malakittens

With 10 in residence, it takes 6 votes to send someone down the mountain.
Day 1 will end in (expired on 2020-09-16 16:50:00)
The Bulge has been prodded

Too many vanity votes

Would probably not hop onto Malakittens as suggested by Xayah, would probably hop onto Xayah herself

[Dunnstral]

this is multiball?

A little too on the nose

[Dunnstral]

Even his interaction with my slot (Mariar) is atypical at best and dodgy at worse.

I'm not the slot being dodgy in interactions between the two of us.

[Dunnstral]

Even his interaction with my slot (Mariar) is atypical at best and dodgy at worse.

I'm not the slot being dodgy in interactions between the two of us.

Explain pls

It's pretty clear that Xayah was avoiding talking to me

[Dunnstral]

Even his interaction with my slot (Mariar) is atypical at best and dodgy at worse.

I'm not the slot being dodgy in interactions between the two of us.

Explain pls

It's pretty clear that Xayah was avoiding talking to me

Prove your point

Because I addressed her multiple times and even voted her and she never commented or replied to any of that

Dundun, whos mefias? You don't seems to have an actual opinion on anything. Your iso is pretty bland

Not true I've made my position clear

[Dunnstral]

And agar shut me down instantly with "don't self meta" and then ignored me and called me scum so

[Dunnstral]

I'd have preferred that we didn't claim today but it looks like we're too far in now

[Dunnstral]

And agar shut me down instantly with "don't self meta" and then ignored me and called me scum so

What do you think of aGar?

IDK

[Dunnstral]

You can claim before AGar if you wish. It's not like someone can fakeclaim PR and get away with it with all 4 still alive

I don't think anti-town are at all likely to fakeclaim mason/monk, so does order really matter vs getting masons and monks to claim

[Dunnstral]

EVEN id ELemets slot is a PR it's still scum of the other type.

Again, he's claimed vt already.

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Agar
I'm vt

[Dunnstral]

EVEN id ELemets slot is a PR it's still scum of the other type.

Again, he's claimed vt already.

I keep friggin' forgetting this. :facepalm:

So it goes w/o saying bith Dunn & AGar are PRs? (If not, please claim PR anyway, because in that unlikely event a PR claimed VT)

Ah I didn't realize everyone else had claimed already, yeah I am

[Dunnstral]

yes

[Dunnstral]

alright, I'm not a pr, but I was clearly asked to claim I was

[Dunnstral]

Well you claimed pr so... is Agar lying or not? Otherwise I don't see what you're getting at

[Dunnstral]

Does anybody think this is the best DrDoLittle has to offer? Pretty sure he replaced in as scum, the omgus vote on myself + opportunistic vote on Mala really hits that home too.

Joey might just be scum too

[Dunnstral]

We badly need a deadline.

Yo hold up I thought Dunn was conftown????

Are you confusing me with Agar?

[Dunnstral]

Can you dial back your arrogance from a 9 to like a 5?

[Dunnstral]

I'm sure that its drdolittle. Other 3 are up in the air. We should go for the obvious pick today.

VOTE: Drdolittle

[Dunnstral]

I think we're in a better position if we elim scum today than if we no-elim

[Dunnstral]

Does anybody here think drdolittle is town?

[Dunnstral]

What does everyone else think of no elim vs eliminating scum

[Dunnstral]

What does everyone else think of no elim vs eliminating scum

I think if we don't take a 66% chance of hitting scum we are fools tbh.

I mean, we have a limited pool. If we limit things based on our reads we can increase that 66% which is insane odds for a mafia game!

He literally copy pasted what I wrote word for word earlier in the day

[Dunnstral]

look at posts 1344-1346 and then 1349-1351

[Dunnstral]

dave, waiting on you

[Dunnstral]

Davesaz wasn't a vanilla townie, The Bulge wasn't a mafia goon, Sir Cakez wasn't a werewolf

[Dunnstral]

Also we could have still shot at dave the next night which would have forced a draw. We probably weren't going to but he was only cleared to the mafia

[Dunnstral]

oing little is a losing strategy when the game is almost over. If you're going to replace in to a game where being eliminated means probably losing, either work for it or don't replace in.

i found scum which is more than could be said for you

if you thought I was scum you'd have shot me

[Dunnstral]

Kinda hard given he was town.

oh right