Worst role ideas?

[Leafsnail]

I drew Death Arsonist Survivor (automatically ignites on death) recently. It's a pretty dumb role.

[Leafsnail]

Super Assertive Cult Leader

This role may target as many players as it likes. Its action attempts to recruit players into its cult.

Recruited players get a choice of whether to join or not. If they accept, they become part of the cult. If they decline, they do not join the cult, and learn the identity of the cult leader.

[Leafsnail]

It's only bad because the cult could win N1 if the leader targets everyone and more than 1/2 accept. Otherwise, the cult leader dies and anyone who accepted has to try to take out non cultist... ugh.

When the cult leader dies, so does the entire cult...

Yep, you'll have to guess the public mood.

[Leafsnail]

Super-Vengeful Townie: If you die by any means you can immediately kill another player of your choice in retaliation. That player becomes a Super-Vengeful Townie/Goon before dying.

[Leafsnail]

You are a

Spawn Camper

Before the game starts choose one player. You will publicly kill them in the day opening post. If that player ever comes back to life you will kill them again.

[Leafsnail]

You are a

Disgruntled Player

. You must request a replacement out of the game in this playerslot's first post of every day and you (the player) cannot post after making this request. If a replacement is not found by the next day this playerslot is modkilled. You cannot tell other people about this posting restriction or you will be forcibly replaced.

[Leafsnail]

Getting lynched for posting misleading votecounts

[Leafsnail]

I think it's not too bad a role in the hands of mafia.

[Leafsnail]

The betting would be on who dies in the night, right? Or on who gets lynched the following day for mafia members.

[Leafsnail]

You are a

Parallel-world Assassin

.

Every night you may choose a player to kill. When the night phase ends they will die in every game they are currently alive in. If you die then you will also die in every other game you are currently alive in.

You win when you are the last player left alive.

[Leafsnail]

Your partners wouldn't vote for you so it wouldn't be too bad. Well I mean it's bad in that it's a mafia member who is almost impossible to lynch but

[Leafsnail]

It needs to be 100% guaranteed sane to be a bad role really.

[Leafsnail]

It's a guaranteed sanity game, he's always shown targeting himself and he's a mafia member.

[Leafsnail]

Your are a Playful Spirit.

Every night you can target one player. That player's win condition will be changed to "You win if you are lynched".

You win if you are the only player left alive.

[Leafsnail]

You are a

Gambling Serial Killer

.

Once per day you can post a 1d20 set of dice tags. The number you roll on the dice is the number of votes you can cast today (if you haven't rolled yet you can only vote once). You win when you are the sole surviving player.

[Leafsnail]

In the case of a critical failure every other player gains 20 votes.

[Leafsnail]

Optimal play for the last one is to not post.

[Leafsnail]

You are a

Card Carrying Goon

.

Your alignment and role PM will be publically posted and identified as yours in the first post of the thread.

Twice per game, during the day, you may kill another player. That player becomes a Neutral Survivor before dying. You may use this ability multiple times per day.

You cannot be killed in the night.

You win with the mafia.

[Leafsnail]

As long as the goon has his finger on the trigger he'd be able to prevent anybody from voting him via a threat. Therefore in practice... the town would want to wait for him to be offline and make a mad dash to lynch him in that time. That could be hard to do though since the goon could threaten to kill anyone who starts discussing strategies for killing him.

[Leafsnail]

It'd work as an SK too I guess.

or you know, everyone just piles on him start of d1 since that is what they SHOULD do

Even though voting him first is a virtually guaranteed loss? Doesn't seem like playing to win to me.

[Leafsnail]

anti-scum = me

scum = person

[Leafsnail]

I think I pulled a (bastard) role like that once, except I was told I was a Mason Recruiter.

e: Actually I'm not sure if it was a mason leader specifically, but it was something that isn't cult recruiter.

[Leafsnail]

You are

Passive Aggressive

.

Every real life day while you are alive you must post in a different Mafia Discussion thread. Your post has to contain at least one barely concealed reference to this game (eg creating a role based on someone you're arguing with in the Worst role ideas? thread).

You are not allowed to mention or hint at this posting requirement in the mafia thread or in the site at large. You also cannot acknowledge that you are doing it.

You win if there are no mafia members remaining and you have not received a ban.

[Leafsnail]

Still marginally better than a townie - you'd know if you've been roleblocked, and if there is another tracker/watcher in the game you could have an alibi.

[Leafsnail]

Give that role to the moderator.

[Leafsnail]

You are a

Serial Memory Wiper

.

Every night you can target a player. That player will be replaced, but their replacement will not receive any information about their role, alignment or previous night actions. You can self-target with this ability.

You win if you are one of the last two players alive.

[Leafsnail]

You are

the man who knows too much

.

The mafia members in this game are XXX, YYY and ZZZ. The mafia has a one-shot factional X-kill ability that can be immediately activated at any time, even twilight. The mafia has also received a copy of your role PM.

You immediately lose if you are targetted by the X-kill. Otherwise, you win if all mafia members are dead.

You are a

Hydra

. You are composed of XXX and YYY. If you are killed, then you won't die. However, XXX will no longer be allowed to use your account. Instead, AAA and BBB will join the Hydra. If you are killed again, YYY will no longer be allowed to use your account, but CCC and DDD will join the hydra. Repeat ad nauseum.

You win if no one calls for your removal from the game, and no one bitches about hydras. In any thread, anywhere on the forum.

I'd have the loss condition "You lose if you cannot find 2 more people to join your hydra within 24 hours".

[Leafsnail]

I think claiming cop would be a decent idea, although it would give you extra mafia scrutiny.

[Leafsnail]

The X-kill is specifically aimed at avoiding that, yeah.

The Mostly Mountainous role seems pretty different - here you know everything and you have to pretend not to, while that role was you knew everything and your alignment was hidden.

[Leafsnail]

You are an an

Even More Unstoppable Cop

.

Every night you may inspect a player to learn their role and alignment. This effect bypasses any form of action or inspection immunity.

If you are blocked, the block fails. You also gain a free inspection on the blocker.

If any town player attempts to kill you, that kill fails. In addition, if you were inspecting a mafia aligned player on that night the kill is redirected to them.

If any non-town player attempts to kill you that kill fails. That player is also killed.

If you are lynched, the lynch fails. You can also vengekill one player of your choice.

If any mafia aligned player attempts to claim cop, the claim fails. They also die and you will be confirmed as town.

If you are modkilled, the modkill fails. You can also modify whichever rule you broke to allow for what you just did.

You win with the town.

[Leafsnail]

You are a

Crazed Duelist

. There is another player in the game with an identical role to yours.

You can kill another player in the day by PMing me with your target. After you use your daykill you will be unable to daykill again until one of the following happens:
1. 24 realtime hours have passed
2. The other Crazed Duelist has performed a daykill

You win if you are the only living Crazed Duelist. You lose if you die and there is another Crazed Duelist alive.

[Leafsnail]

You could win if there were a survivor, thus allowing there to be two winning factions rather than one.

[Leafsnail]

On the plus side you'd win every other mafia game at the same time

[Leafsnail]

Seems like a good chance to test your VCA skills.

[Leafsnail]

1-shot PGOs can often choose when to use their action.

[Leafsnail]

Allowing quoting the mod wouldn't really be game ending, just a pain for the mafia who'd have to do a bunch of extra work.

[Leafsnail]

Under some rulesets you'd be able to tell if you've been blocked.

[Leafsnail]

Right you can commit Suicide by PGO.

[Leafsnail]

You could actually get that role in one of the no-balance Xylbot setups (Black Goo Action-Immune Townie).

[Leafsnail]

Worst Role Ideas inspired games are the best games.

[Leafsnail]

You are

Easily Influenced.

Whenever a player votes for you your win condition changes to match theirs.

[Leafsnail]

Not if you very strictly enforce that players must play to their win condition at all times.

I think it should probably be "You must play to win at the end of the game", because that would make it a bad role on more levels

e: Not being told your win condition at any given time would also work.

[Leafsnail]

You are a

Day Killer Instigator

.

Once per day you may kill another player. If you do all other players gain the ability to daykill.

[Leafsnail]

It was yes

[Leafsnail]

Basically

Network Robot (town, survivor; rare; 4+ players): Whenever you are targeted by an ability, all players gain that ability. It still has its normal effect on you.

(I think this is my favourite worst-role, by the way).