In post 1077, JacksonVirgo wrote:
Mhm, wolves probably have Godfathers to any degree and their announcement is probably the thing one thing that isn't normal.
Godfathers are normal now.
I know they are, they need to be announced that they exist in a normal
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In post 1077, JacksonVirgo wrote:
Mhm, wolves probably have Godfathers to any degree and their announcement is probably the thing one thing that isn't normal.
Godfathers are normal now.
Godfathers are normal
if announced beforehand
Wait so it has to be announced that Godfathers are in the game? Does that mean the innos are real?
There’s one mech that explicitly is not normal, I assume this is that
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In post 1273, JacksonVirgo wrote:
As soon as Koba flipped I knew what we were dealing with, it's obvious is it not? Drew caught it, as did I and Titus did too hence their claim.
Her please.
Of course, sorry
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Post #1279 (isolation #216) » Mon Mar 04, 2024 10:17 am
Postby JacksonVirgo »
I didn't think it was all/majority cops, that only came out when people claimed. I just had pinned Drew as a cop specifically given Koba's flip. Came to the conclusion that with all that power (even with just three) scum have a Godfather, and since it wasn't announced then that would have to be the one mech that isn't normal.
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Post #1312 (isolation #225) » Mon Mar 04, 2024 11:10 am
Postby JacksonVirgo »
I think the focus on PC always was a distraction from Ganski. I didn't ever really think it looked damning, I said so to get the best response from them
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Post #1315 (isolation #227) » Mon Mar 04, 2024 11:13 am
Postby JacksonVirgo »
Playing on this site has conditioned me, and others, to think an ungated Cop is already busted so multiple just digs into your brain as "this isn't right" regardless of a questionable game. There's a reason why I voted them, and then backed out when I came to my senses.
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Post #1324 (isolation #230) » Mon Mar 04, 2024 11:17 am
Postby JacksonVirgo »
In post 1318, ketchup777 wrote:
Drew went all in, not taking the time to think, and quoting Kobas post about him being the hammer as a lame excuse to hammer. hmmm
I genuinely think both of their reactions makes perfect sense, they were already being scum-read and then they claimed a Cop (when koba and drew both were cops). I think my retraction was only because I pretty much lock-towned them through their content
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In post 1317, JacksonVirgo wrote:
Cops are the new VT. There's going to be sprinkled roles like the Disloyal but mostly they're the new VT, no point in coordinating anything really.
We'll wait until light claims to comment on this further
Of course, but this is an assumption that I'm running with until proven otherwise
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Post #1330 (isolation #233) » Mon Mar 04, 2024 11:21 am
Postby JacksonVirgo »
In post 1327, ketchup777 wrote:
I might just not have had the strength of cop put into perspective. But I can’t see how hammering a cop in a known suspicious setup can gain when we have over 7 days to sort the slot. it’s too risky.
cyclical point tho so im just waiting on light
Yeah, maybe it's because you're new that you don't fully grasp the weight of that.
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Post #1352 (isolation #235) » Mon Mar 04, 2024 2:01 pm
Postby JacksonVirgo »
Go for it, check in the pool that hasn't been checked yet. I won't take part in mech discussions as I don't think it's of worth to do so, in fact I think it'll harm us more than anything if people get too swept away with the mech (coming from someone who doesn't think it goes further than Cop = named VT)
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In post 1238, ketchup777 wrote:
ok please hold back your thoughts until Light claims, but to help people out who want to do analysis, here are all the cop claims in order of claim:
In post 1352, JacksonVirgo wrote:
Go for it, check in the pool that hasn't been checked yet. I won't take part in mech discussions as I don't think it's of worth to do so, in fact I think it'll harm us more than anything if people get too swept away with the mech (coming from someone who doesn't think it goes further than Cop = named VT)
Especially since everyone got an inno??
Obviously there are more than likely some bad cops here as well(social commentary ftw)
Yeah, I doubt there's even a possibility of a wolf being red-checkable by a Cop. I also think we threw away a lot of our possible utility (if we have more) as it stands with every cop claiming innos bar a few people. I don't want to make it worse.
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In post 1211, Ranger wrote:I feel like the game can be nearly entirely broken by looking at the current claims compared to End of Day actions, as well as looking for the pre-heavy-cop play.
I’ll be busy today, yet plan to investigate tomorrow.
For now, I’ll say I’m sure Enchant is town.
I'd prefer to not specify why at this time. I believe it very strongly; he tops my town charts for good reason.
Tentative agree, we'll wait a bit before explaining
Ok cool light claimed not vanilla. Enchant is conftown because they're the only Vanilla Townie
Complex normals don’t need a confirmed VT anymore
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As far as I am aware, all Normal games require some VTs.
Thank you!
So the most likely rule break is godfathers, but it’s possible we have no VTs
If we have no VTs then Enchant is still mechanically globally conftown from the 3 cop innos on him by JV/Python/Ketchup since you'd need to announce Godfather if the rulebreak was 0 VTs
ah yes, you're correct! that's nice
0 VTs is allowed in complex normals
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Post #1451 (isolation #252) » Tue Mar 05, 2024 7:13 am
Postby JacksonVirgo »
“ Roles may be hybrid. In Complex Games, some players should be Vanilla Townies - although there is not a hard floor here - and there is no limit on roles and modifiers.”
Jesus
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In post 1410, Titus wrote:
Calling light and Black partners. There is a reason to vote light (counterwagon from yesterday) but I wanted to hear someone say it to compare if they usually do that. Black jumping off at the first motion elsewhere is suspicious rather than giving a reason. She wants to be on the light wagon if it takes but would rather vote town.
VOTE: Light
This feels overly defensive and a little panicky
I must be high as fuck I thought you were calling yourself defensive and panicky
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Post #1466 (isolation #258) » Tue Mar 05, 2024 7:44 am
Postby JacksonVirgo »
1. A VT isn’t confirmed as per complex normal ruling
2. Dragon said that normals would have at least one VT, as a mod he’d know the setup. He wouldn’t say that if there were none
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