[OLD] Open Setup Ideas and Discussion

DeltaFlame · Post Post #7956 (isolation #0) » Mon Mar 23, 2015 9:32 am

Reinforcements

This is a concept that is based on using backups as opposed to regular roles. While there are less roles that are active at a time, it is harder for Mafia to get rid of these roles.

Role list:

Godfather
2-Shot Strongman
Mafia Universal Backup

Cop
Doctor
Backup Cop
Backup Doctor
Universal Backup
Vanilla Townie x4

Mechanics:
[*]Daystart
[*]Backups are not informed of their role
[*]Backup roles are revealed upon death

Possibly confusing things I have to clarify:
The Universal Backup will assume the position of a role as soon as the role

AND

its backup are dead. E.g. The Universal Backup will become a cop when both the cop and the backup cop are dead.

So, thoughts?

DeltaFlame · Post Post #7958 (isolation #1) » Mon Mar 23, 2015 11:01 am

In post 7957, TierShift wrote:I like it, but I'd get rid of the framer or the godfather. You don't need two counters to a cop. That makes it so the results cannot be trusted at all. One counter seems appropriate, so just a framer, I think.

I like your idea of not telling the backups that they are backups. They need to flip as backup though.

Replaced Framer with a Goon.
I do know that I would have to announce that a player was a backup upon death, otherwise it would be considered to be bastard modding.

Having a Framer instead of a Godfather would also be a setup to consider now that I think about it, so I'll just allow for both to be possible (but only one to be used per game)

DeltaFlame · Post Post #7960 (isolation #2) » Mon Mar 23, 2015 11:34 am

In post 7959, TierShift wrote:No, cops need to know which one is in play or they get reeeaally weak.

Fixed.

DeltaFlame · Post Post #7962 (isolation #3) » Mon Mar 23, 2015 1:30 pm

In post 7961, TierShift wrote:I'd suggest just using one. This unnecessarily complicates the setup and makes the results of each game harder to compare.

Choose the gf if you want simplicity; framer if you want a wifom element.

I think I would like to sample both before I make my choice.

DeltaFlame · Post Post #7965 (isolation #4) » Tue Mar 24, 2015 6:13 am

In post 7964, TierShift wrote:

@bbmolla: the advantage of keeping backups hidden is that massclaim doesn't work.

This is the reason I was considering hiding the information from the backups.

DeltaFlame · Post Post #8029 (isolation #5) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 11:24 pm

In post 7956, DeltaFlame wrote:
Reinforcements

This is a concept that is based on using backups as opposed to regular roles. While there are less roles that are active at a time, it is harder for Mafia to get rid of these roles.

Role list:

Godfather
2-Shot Strongman
Mafia Universal Backup

Cop
Doctor
Backup Cop
Backup Doctor
Universal Backup
Vanilla Townie x4

Mechanics:

Daystart

Backups are not informed of their role

Backup roles are revealed upon death

Possibly confusing things I have to clarify:
The Universal Backup will assume the position of a role as soon as the role
AND
its backup are dead. E.g. The Universal Backup will become a cop when both the cop and the backup cop are dead.

So, thoughts?

In post 8024, wgeurts wrote:(Or ask me to make one)

Edit:
Made one: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... corn_Mafia
Just move it if you want the page to be called differently.

I was wondering whether or not we were allowed to make our own page on the wiki...
Anyway, would you be able to add my game to the wiki?

DeltaFlame · Post Post #8055 (isolation #6) » Fri Apr 17, 2015 9:50 am

144 Hours
This is a game created for another forum to encourage the players to take more risks instead of wasting a few days at the beginning. It has background and stuff but I just want to get straight to business in seeking help balancing this.
Mechanics
[*]The game starts on Night 0, then Day 1, then Night 1 etc.
[*]Mafia are forced to kill every night.
[*]If there is at least one mafioso alive at the end of Day 6, the game ends and Mafia wins.
[*]++ Role distribution (kinda)

There will be 12 town and 4 mafia, their roles are decided like this:
The town roles are selected randomly by generating 8 letters from a list of 15 letters. 5 of which are "I"s, 5 of which are "P"s, and 5 of which are "K"s representing Investigative, Protective, and Killing respectively. Then, depending on how many of each letter is drawn, the following roles are added to the list:

Investigative:
None: Tracker
I: Cop
II: Cop + Deputy
III: Cop + Tracker
IIII: Cop + Deputy + Tracker
IIIII: 2 Cops + Tracker

Protective:
None: Bodyguard
P: Doctor
PP: Doctor + Bodyguard
PPP: Doctor + Nurse
PPPP: Doctor + Nurse + Bodyguard
PPPPP: 2 Doctors + Bodyguard

Killing:
None: 1-shot Vigilante
K: Vigilante
KK: Vigilante + Jailor
KKK: Vigilante + Bomb
KKKK: Vigilante + Jailor + Bomb
KKKKK: 2 Vigilantes + Jailor

So, if the letters chosen are I, P, I, K, I, P, I, K, for example, then the roles will contain:
1 Cop
1 Deputy
1 Tracker
1 Doctor
1 Bodyguard
1 Vigilante
1 Jailor
and the rest of the town would be Vanilla Townies.

For Mafia, the roles are simpler. It's simply 1 Godfather + Three of the following:
• Roleblocker
• Role Cop
• Transporter
• 2-shot Strongman
• 2-shot Ninja
• 2-shot Janitor

Randomly generated with no repeats.

The first thing I want to do is find if there is a way to make the role distribution result in there being exactly 6 town roles all the time.