[OLD] Open Setup Ideas and Discussion

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Post Post #3074 (isolation #0) » Wed Apr 20, 2011 6:50 am

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Quilford wrote:How about
3 mafia goons
6 oracles
You could put everyone (including Mafia) oracles AND add modifier like paranoid, naive etc ... But it would be a nightmare to balance properly I guess.
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Post Post #7967 (isolation #1) » Wed Mar 25, 2015 2:32 am

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It seems so much in favor of Mafia that I wouldn't bother playing it. Chance of Cop and Tailor targeting the same person : 1 / (Nb of townies + Nb of Mafioso - 1)² or 1 / 49 on N1, 1 / 25 on N2, 1 / 9 on N3. Doesn't look significant enough to alter the dynamic of a 7-2 Mountainous. And the Desperado is a lesser Vig since it's just one shot with a considerable drawback. And Mafia have Day-talk.
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Post Post #7982 (isolation #2) » Thu Mar 26, 2015 1:32 am

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In post 7980, wgeurts wrote:The desperado is basically a 1-shot cop as well if he claims his role before the shot.

So it's a Day Desperado ?
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Post Post #7989 (isolation #3) » Mon Mar 30, 2015 3:36 am

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Are they separated Mafia ? If the gunbearer hits a Vengeful Mafia which Mafia elects a new gunbearer ? Is there a voting mechanic ?

The main drawback I see in this setup (as in many Nightless setups) is the absence of motivation of all of the townies to participate. With so little PR, participation will be an issue.
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Post Post #7991 (isolation #4) » Mon Mar 30, 2015 11:42 am

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It has some merits and it's an interesting setup. Still I'm worried that it may not nurture good gameplay but raher LOLWUT vig'ing.
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Post Post #8016 (isolation #5) » Fri Apr 03, 2015 10:29 am

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I really like the domination concept. 6-3 isn't in favor of town at all and I don't see how the current mechanics change the EV that much. As for possible PR, JK, Doc or Watcher/Tracker would too powerful in my opinion unless they get their powers if they're voted.

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