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False bravado. I did dumb shit like this my first scumgame and promptly got lynched. Which is what we're gonna do to this guy after Talah is satisfied.
An awful reaction to Molla. Page number has nothing to do with RVS and a proper town response would have been along the lines of "LOL, you high Molla?" or some variation thereof that bluntly calls Molla wrong instead of weirdly latching onto RVS being over.
In post 30, BBmolla wrote:HE IS SCUM I AM NOT VOTING ANYOEN ELSE TODAY THANK YOU
That tunnel is real!
Molla discredit #5
In post 38, Firebringer wrote:I agree with all the people who think fire is scum.
Its so god damn obvious.
Annoyed caughtscum response. Why caughtscum? Because from the word choice and tone of his post he already feels defeated. Town has no reason to be defeated here.
In post 58, Spiffeh wrote:FB do you think there are scum on your wagon?
Given any reasonable wagon length it can be assumed their usually is at least 1 scum on there.
But I could always be wrong.
I do think this is a stupid town motivated wagon.
I need some clippers to deal with this hedge. Tries to appease folks on his wagon by calling them town while downplaying the wagon itself by calling it stupid.
In post 90, Nosferatu wrote:I'd vote you just for that, but I don't want a surprise hammer from ika.
Are you going to spend the rest of the day being a waste of time?
I am hunting for opportunistic scum, and this post reeks of it.
When I reveal myself as town, I am sure we will have great discussions on the wagon that has formed on me and the reasons people are on it.
We are out of RVS, unless you actually think I am scum people should get off me.
Either take the vote off me,
or Explain the vote.
That is all I am requesting at this time.
Translated his post from scum-ese: "I'm scumhunting, even though I haven't been, and this guy is scum for not letting Ika lolhammer me. There's got to be scum on my wagon, but I'm not prepared to call anybody on the wagon out yet. Halp, I'm being unfairly attacked, halp!"
Essentially, he's being opportunistic in jumping on Nosferatu (which is hilarious in itself as he calls Nos opportunistic). Conveniently this post comes shortly after Molla makes the comment about speedlynching Nos given a FB scumflip. He's at least trying to rally, I'll give him that.
In post 96, Nosferatu wrote:
why is this post opportunistic, it doesn't jump on any opportunity.
You said there was one scum on your wagon and you haven't named them.
you're defensive aren't you?
I don't remember saying 100% their is scum on my wagon. I said it can reasonably be assumed their is probably 1.
Go quote my post, I don't remember saying 100% their was scum.
Also I am arguing with you, if thats defensive w/e. I am just calling you out on some of your bs.
You are openning yourself up for a future vote. That is the opportunity. You can be opportunistic without votes. Go with the motions of everyone around you, I mean that is what scum would want to do. Follow the crowd subtly control it from the back.
Now he's actually hedging on his hedge. This just gets better and better. He's basically dodging answering Nos' question and redirects with an attack on Nos for fencesitting and setting himself up to vote FB.
Have you changed your mind about this? Seems like yiu have two people in your scumpool but voted neither.
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Post #231 (isolation #5) » Tue Nov 03, 2015 8:17 pm
Postby Kid A »
In post 168, BBmolla wrote:Because Firebringer plays the SC2 Mafia playstyle of "Pages 1-5 we fuck around xd" which explains why he seemed scummy as fucking fuck.
His switch into actually being town makes me kind of unable to keep voting him.
What about his later posts made him town to you? If anything he was scummy under pressure
In post 232, talah wrote:While I appreciate your abrasiveness and it comes across as scumhunting, I'm a bit concerned that you've come to independent sorta-conculsions that both FB and Nosferatu are town after having proposed them as scum/scum (83), then scum/sk (146) and now town/town (183)?
cause reads change when new info is provided/explained
Like have you ever played this game, what the fuck am I reading
In post 168, BBmolla wrote:Because Firebringer plays the SC2 Mafia playstyle of "Pages 1-5 we fuck around xd" which explains why he seemed scummy as fucking fuck.
His switch into actually being town makes me kind of unable to keep voting him.
What about his later posts made him town to you? If anything he was scummy under pressure
Not really sure why you ignored this and evaded the same question from talah
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Post #468 (isolation #16) » Wed Nov 04, 2015 8:46 pm
Postby Kid A »
In post 286, Spiffeh wrote:Also whoever said something about the wagon on FB dissipating quickly I think that has more to do with the short deadlines and sense of urgency than anything else.
Hi you weren't committed to the firebringer wagon since you hopped off it the second it lost traction and defended the weird unvotes. You were also repeatedly asking fb for scumreads bcos you were begging for someone else to push on.
Is it because you didnt expect a wagom from rvs to end in a lynch or because you have a vested interest in keeping fb alive?
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Post #469 (isolation #17) » Wed Nov 04, 2015 8:50 pm
Postby Kid A »
In post 411, Spiffeh wrote:
And yes I did drop the FB wagon quickly and like I said before there's no time to just sit on dying wagons, especially when I have such an abundance of null reads, and I was satisfied with the FB-town arguments being presented by Molla.
"I was so committed to the fb wagon that I dropped it the second someone said he looks town"
Molla never even presented an argument, I had to question him twice to get any justification on his flipflop
In post 384, Kid A wrote:He wasnt at all committed to the fb wagon but acts like he was retrospectively for town cred, also does literally whatever bbsyra tells him
Um can you point to posts that make you feel like I wasn't committed to the FB wagon because I cannot see how you are seeing it that way. That is like the most ridiculous point I have seen on anyone in this game so far. I even ISO'd myself because I know I can be a contradictory fuck and even
objectively it looks clear to me that I was pretty serious about Firebringer
. I do regret putting him to my town reads so quickly though because I am not a fan of his post that basically buddies me without justification.
And yes I am fine with doing what Molla and Syry tell me to if it's something I agree with myself
. I'm scum reading talah (albeit not very strongly) and wagons are life so I hopped on.
In post 286, Spiffeh wrote:Also whoever said something about the wagon on FB dissipating quickly I think that has more to do with the short deadlines and sense of urgency than anything else.
Hi you weren't committed to the firebringer wagon since
you hopped off it the second it lost traction and defended the weird unvotes. You were also repeatedly asking fb for scumreads bcos you were begging for someone else to push on.
Is it because you didnt expect a wagom from rvs to end in a lynch or because you have a vested interest in keeping fb alive?
In post 411, Spiffeh wrote:
And yes I did drop the FB wagon quickly and like I said before there's no time to just sit on dying wagons, especially when I have such an abundance of null reads, and I was satisfied with the FB-town arguments being presented by Molla.
"I was so committed to the fb wagon that I dropped it the second someone said he looks town"
Molla never even presented an argument, I had to question him twice to get any justification on his flipflop
these posts are responding to your points by bringing up contradictory posts from you
molla never presented arguments, I had to question him for them and still only received something along the lines of 'it seemed like a good exchange'
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Post #509 (isolation #23) » Thu Nov 05, 2015 5:35 am
Postby Kid A »
In post 502, Spiffeh wrote:@Kid A
I am fully admitting to hopping off of it and going somewhere else when it started losing momentum. I have said multiple times that I want wagons and I think they are essential to finding scum with the shortened deadlines. I'm not going to dawdle on a wagon losing traction when a ton more information can be gained from hopping on another one. I don't really give a shit if it looks like opportunism, I can kind of see where you're coming from, but people need to realize that our time limit calls for this because it gives us the most information. Especially early on.
why did you choose to avoid the syr wagon after you left dgb if you want wagons?
Checking my read on syr since you are apparently sharing an alignment
here is a post making it pretty clear that i thought you were claiming seriously that bbmolla never responded to saying 'we're not actually masons, i think syryana is joking' or something similar
In post 517, Spiffeh wrote:
I wanted to wagon pignash because he had like two posts. I had a slight town read on Syryana and preferred to wagon someone I was null reading to actually form a read on them. I also didn't hop on the Ranger wagon that was starting up (iirc) because I thought she was town.
staying off the ranger wagon is one of the things making me wonder if im wrong about you tbh, but why did you jump from the firebringer wagon (still has a handful of votes on it) onto someone with zero votes on them?
mainly meta for ABR
DGB because they're coming right in with pro-town play, going through the game and helping town despite a likely lynch on them
you because you sheeped and buddied the shit out of molla, voted obvtowns like talah even though you seem to townread them (#78), fakeclaimed mason twice, cced my townread, and you have been either buddying or defending spiffeh depending on his alignment despite him being somewhat scummy
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Post #531 (isolation #28) » Thu Nov 05, 2015 6:45 am
Postby Kid A »
you never thought talah was town but allowed him to tell you how to vote in #78?
lol ok, just admit you changed your mind. what's the point in telling a half-truth with weaselly statements like "I've never said at any point in my ISO I've thought talah was town"
i know you never said it but the implication was there and it all went out the window once bbmolla put a vote on him.
and read my posts against spiffeh if you want to know why he is in my scumpool, you were literally posting as i made them so i dont know why you aren't aware of them
feel free to explain your scumread on me as I did it for you
In post 531, Kid A wrote:you never thought talah was town but allowed him to tell you how to vote in #78?
That's right Kid. I routinely allow my vote to be public property. I'm not explaining this shit again.
i really don't understand why you're trying to lie about this, please just admit that talah convinced you to change your vote or fully deny it. don't use this weaselly shit like "i never stated a town read on him" or "As of post 78, talah was null".
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Post #806 (isolation #38) » Sun Nov 08, 2015 9:27 am
Postby Kid A »
@ whoever asked for abr meta I will talk you through it tomorrow
In post 803, Spiffeh wrote:Huntress also said that Kid A defending DGB "looked more town than scum" with no explanation
The way she said that doesn't sound like scum trying to link town to flipped scum, but that he seemed town regardless of the flip. Why wouldn't she take that opportunity to try and associate the two of them if he was town?
Kid A's hardcore defense of DGB and his relationship with both flipped scum is too much to ignore and he needs to die.
VOTE: Kid A
Mafia chucking out unsubstantiated townreads??? I dont think thats ever happened before!!! He already knows im town dipshit, the read is forced because he didnt read anything into my play.
Your case on me is essentially that I townread scum, hopefully you will stop the bullshit and do some actual scumhunting after I fully explain my read, but I kind of doubt it since you are the kind of mafia who has the most uninteresting reads and the most predictable play.
