Newbie 215 - Newbies ran amuck

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vote milkshake

I don't like milkshakes.

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unvote milkshake

I'm not suspicious yet, but I want to avoid a speed lynch at this point.

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bigAl wrote:

unvote: milkshake, vote: Arafax for kicks.

And you're calling me scummy Milkshake???...bigAl, you're either not serious yet or you're scum...It's too early to say, but putting the 2nd vote asap on people might not be scummy, but it's not exactly a good town move.

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That's great, but when D2 comes if the doc (that is if we have one) doesn't save in the night, D2 becomes lynch or lose....Am I correct?

I don't like those odds...And it does happen, just check out Newbie #205

And speedlynching D1 can lose the town the game as we all saw in Newbie #205.

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Two votes become a risk if Al and I are both town. Since I know I am town, if Al is town, I feel that I am in a very risky situation right now.
I also thought milkshake was potentially in a risky situation as well (if he and Al are both town, of course) which is why I unvoted.

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Delvar Wrote:

I think it's a little suspicious, but I don't think bigAl would vote for Arafax in an attempt to speedlynch him if he's scum, since there would still need to be another vote plus other scum.

Please read my post carefully. That's not what I said. It's post #20.

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milkshake wrote:

Maybe he just didn't stop to consider that one of the votes was random and likely to be withdrawn?

Good point....However it's been 2 RLD...My thinking has changed slightly...I think (as I have said before) that if scum have the chance to speed lynch D1, they will...It's a good move half of the time & those are good odds in my oponion...Anyway, since it has been 2 RLD and no attempt made to SL me makes me think that scum may have vote on me already...So, I will keep my eye on both bigAl & Aelyn.

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I'll

Vote - bigAl

...For stating over and over that scum will never speedlynch D1...The only way he can know for sure what scum will do is if he's scum.

Can everyone else give their thoughts on the game so far?...I'm impatient

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let's move on to more important things, like lynching scum?

That's exactly what I am doing. My vote stays.

Now, to begin converastion, I would like to hear more from Slyph, Delvar, milkshake and Aelyn. Especially Slyph and Delvar.

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milkshake wrote:

And my thoughts on milkshake are that he is a very attractive young man with a positive personality and amazing scum-finding skills.

With all of that going for him, he must be pro-town....
FYI - That was a joke...I just like to post a lot too.

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Not a bad idea Bacde...Atleast that's something...We have got like zero going on here.

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sLYph wrote:

it's only day 1 and it's only been 2 or 3 RLD

Are you saying that we have only been playing for 3 RLD's total?...We've been playing for 11 RLD's now...I for one am also getting impatient...At any rate, since there has been nothing new, my vote remains and the game goes on...

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FOS Delvar

.....

Unvote bigAl

I suddenly find what you just did very scummy....Delvar, how long is it between your posts?...I'll

Vote Delvar

Thank you Bacde for removing the 3rd vote there.

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I agree...Maybe he is just being a noob...However, I think that it is a more 'scummy' move than a 'noob' move...I'll keep my vote for now.

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I think that maybe a deadline would be good...Perhaps we could use a boost to get this thing going...However, we did just get the convo going a bit...So I'm content with no deadline at this point.

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Delvar wrote:

Saying someone is a very good scum by saying that they avoid a situation where their own team can succeed is exactly the thing I'd expect from a scum, so wouldn't a very -very- good scum instead avoid this by hammervoting and claiming that a very good scum would have waited instead?!

This is WIFOM logic....Generally WIFOM just confuses the town...This is a tactic used by scum...My vote will stay on you pal.

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Delvar: WIFOM = Wine In Front Of Me = Basically, it's logic that goes something like this: Scum would do this OR that...Scum would not do this OR that...And it confuses the town by leading us to second guess everything that we think.

It's a common scum tactic....I'm going with Scum for you....So, my vote stays on you!

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I know that Delvar may just be being a noob, but it's the only thing going for me right now...I will keep my vote there...No one else is doing anything scummy.

Well maybe Slyph is scummy too....I just have a feeling that the 'noob act' for Delvar is more scummy....Ofcourse, I have no proof yet.

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Again Delvar, that's WIFOM...Again, you strengthen my point that you are scum...You seem to be trying to confuse us all.

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bigAl wrote:

And I just noticed that sylph posted elsewhere ten minutes ago, but not here. Maybe he forgot about us or thinks that what you ignore goes away...

Lol....Lurker.

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FOS Aelyn & FOS Slyph

Both have posted in other games and not here....Many times in Aelyns case.

Unvote

....I'll

vote Aelyn

due to posting every day somewhere, but not posting here for a long time....Also he gave a reason for his lurking, but it doesn't seem accurate since he is posting in other games.

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Happy Easter...Nothing new to post I see

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Bacde wrote:

We need more participation...

I agree...To those who are not voting, do you have any imput?...I know it's 7 RLD, but we do have a deadline....And with the way we've been going, 7 RLD is not that long.

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FOS Bacde

...You jumped in and out of that vote for Aelyn....It makes me suspicious...That's all...I will keep my vote where it is though for now.

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Okay, I have just re-read the entire game (we all know that it's been slow)....Anyway, I have come up with some rather interesting things:

In post # 56 someone was quick (I mean RL Hours) to add a 3rd vote without a reason of his own.....Then he made a poor excuse (IMO) for it in post # 66.....He has pulled the "noob act" and it's

not

his first game....Then in post # 92 he discretely asked all of us to stop discussing him...And this lovely player is Delvar.

Unvote & Vote Delvar

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What I was saying Delvar is that in this post:
Delvar wrote:

If I was a scum, surely my scum partner would have already hammered out Sylph?

Your "scum" partner would actually have had only 64 minutes to "hammer" Slyph....IMO, that makes your excuse pointless and improbable...It is a scummy excuse....Do you see what I am saying now?

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I have thought about this no-lynch thing....I don't think that it's such a horrible thing...If we do lynch wrong today, we will be a lynch or lose tommorow unless we have a doc and they heal tonight...So, perhaps a no lynch is a good idea.

However, I do think that Delvar is still scummy...So I won't be taking my vote off of him.

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Bacde wrote:

1 more dead innocent, which is 1 step closer to losing.

This is true, however if we lynch wrong we then will probably have 2 dead innocent.

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bigal wrote:

Vote: Arafax

Why the vote on me?....If it's about the no-lynch, I must say that I said that it wasn't a "horrible" idea, but I would rather lynch Delvar than no-lynch, which is why my vote stayed there....See post # 120
Also, I wasn't the one who started the no lynch thing...Milkshake brought it up, then Slyph said that it may work, then I put in my thoughts on it....Again, a no-lynch is better than a mislynch IMO (and stating my oponion got me a vote???)...Again, I would rather lynch Delvar...He seens the most scummy.

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1.For the sake of townies everywhere - If you are ever the doc and about to be lynched -

Please claim

2. Does the town think that it is a good idea for the cop to come out if they found out some helpful information?

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bacde wrote:

but the cop investigated bigAl, I would not want them to come out.

I agree totally.

Aelyn wrote:

but if it's an innocent I think the cop should stay quiet for the time being.

That's the part that I am not sure of.

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Okay, my thoughts on the game now....I have re-read again & Slyph seems the scummiest to me.

Among other things, he has done some serious lurking, he put the 3rd vote on Delvar, & when he and Delvar both had two votes on them with a deadline, Slyph wanted a no-lynch....And you can argue either way how serious he was about the no lynch, but that's WIFOM so I won't go there.

FOS Slyph

I will say that Slyph is the not the scummiest thing that I have ever seen, but we don't have a whole lot to go on here.

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@ Aelyn: I would also like to hear your reasons if you don't mind....Not just because of me, but on the others also....Why some are or are not scummy....Know what I mean?

I will say that I am rather suprised to see Slyph so far down....Especially with my last post stating all of his scummy behavior....Ofcourse, you could just be protecting your scum partner.

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Bacde - I literally laughed out loud at your last post...That is just a little to coincidental for me as well....

Confim FOS Slyph

...And now

FOS Aelyn.

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B-O-R-I-N-G
I am willing to vote Slyph here....However, I won't do it with 2 scums out there (I am not interested in a speed lynch)...What does everyone think?...Let's get a little convo going here.

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Aelyn wrote:

Care to elaborate?

You may want to re-read post#142....Slyph has been the "scummiest" - No, I am not 100% sure he is scum...Yes, I will vote for him...But I would first like to hear from everyone else first....Elaborated enough?

Also - Slyph, you're not making much (if any) defense for yourself...I would like to know why you had time (class got out) to defend the "least" scummiest thing you did, but not the other.

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So, three of us (Myself, Bacde, & milkshake) all agree on potentially voting Aelyn?....Unfortunately, I don't see much more content coming out....If there isn't much posted soon, I will be voting for Aelyn....Before I do that, I would like to hear more thoughts...Again, we just don't have a lot to go on here.

I do have a question that I would like everyone to answer: Should the cop come out and tell us if they have confirmed an innocent person?

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So, you know one that is innocent...I think that if you really are the cop, then we have a 2 out of 3 chances of lynching scum today....And I think that you should tell us who that is, because you will obviously be killed tonight and not be able to tell us tomorrow...Then tomorrow, we will have a 50-50 shot at lynching scum.

I must admit, that I am a little suprised that you are the cop....No one inparticular was extremely scummy, but you seemed to be the scummiest IMO...I am not saying that I believe or dis-believe your claim, I am just suprised.

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I have no idea...One thing is nice about this situation though: at worst, we have a 50-50 chance of lynching scum today....I just have no idea which one of you is scum...I'll probably have to go re-read the whole thing again and see what I come up with.....Tough call.

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@ Bacde - Why did you check me?

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@ Milkshake....I agree that they could both be scum...It would be a great idea for scum to try and pull off....As a matter of fact, that would be brilliant.

However, I don't think that is the case here...We are at a stand still...We need a little more input....We have a bunch of WIFOM and we're gonna just have to wait and see what happens.

I will say that I do have an idea of who I intend to vote for...I will just be waiting for a little more input from the rest of the crew.

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Okay, Aelyn says that he cleared Slyph....However, Slyph still thinks that Aelyn is scummy.

Bacde says that he cleared me...However, I can't seem to think that Bacde may be scum.

I do not see that they are both scum....I would like to hear again from milkshake & Slyph, but IMO one of them has to be scum...So, I won't wait for the actual scum (whoever it is) to come and confuse us all or lead us the wrong way.

Vote : Aelyn

[Arafax]

Grrrrrrrrr - Good job!

It was a toss up - Thanks everyone!