1. Perth, Australia
2. Coke
3. No
4. My playstyle is winning.
5. I wouldn't say excited, but I'm looking forward to dominating this game.
6. Nah
7. Nah
I'd explain, but I don't give lessons, that'll cost you.
Well, we've found our first town idiot.mallowgeno wrote:What the heck do you mean by NobodySpecial is trying to hide something? He hasn't even posted yet.Wraith wrote:NobodySpecial is obviously trying to hide something.
Vote: NobodySpecial
I've played a couple-three games off-site, hosted a few more. I'm still not that good at playing yet.
Fos Wraith
I agree, if I'm scum, sure town are in a good place, and have other days for scum hunting. But if I'm on town, lynching me day 1 hasn't done much to help your scum hunting, and you will have few leads.Uite wrote:To answer your question, it's because I think enough has been said to get a decent read on him. Also, I think the pounding on DP is drawing the attention away from the other players, among whom scum is still hiding. It doesn't change any of my suspicions, just my focus.
So... you're saying we shouldn't analyze, and make random guesses? That sounds like a plea from someone who knows their play doesn't stand up to analysis to me.Just browsing through these games, they can just be characterised by people staying as neutral as possible... Which seems to me ridiculous. People all just try analyze critically stuff when there's nothing there. The mafia game at it's core is a guessing game. You have to make guesses and have convictions, if everyone does everything just via neutrality and careful analysis, then you get no where. Every lynch is "justified" and mafia never have any responsibility if they do the same thing the town does. By actually posting a case against someone for little, but doing so that you don't back down, you can learn a lot more than this hurr durr DP is suss for being arrogant etc. This isn't creating any discussion or helping scum hunting at all (unless of course if I am scum). But by focusing on people for reasons people won't agree with you can learn something.
Care to comment, since you "ignored" it already?@mallowmar and Wraith
So you both wanted to end this day early... even though there's lots of time left to get more information... and this isn't your first game ever. Even though we still haven't heard from a player yet?
It's "scum-hunting" for a reason..quadz08 wrote: And, the kicker, your last sentence:So, you don't feel you have a solid case on me, yet you voted me?Unless I feel I have a solid case on you and want you dead, I'd rather keep ya in the dark.
That just made me laugh. I'm not that petty you moron. I wouldn't do something to retaliate because you voted on me, I legitimately found your posting style and content scummy. You can't hide behind this "inexperienced" claim to protect you that other people seem to be allowing.@Beefster: If I wasn't already voting for a scummier player I'd probably vote for DP, not only because he also seems scummy to me but also because he's accusing me of scum, probably in retaliation for voting for him earlier in the day.
So you're voting for someone who you think is a townie?!?!silverbullet wrote:For the moment, I just find you as a stupid impatient townie
Wraith wrote:2. Claim. If you die, you did nothing to help the town. You'll at least get the Doc to help you (there is a Doc in a game with a Cop) or force the scum to NK you.
Wraith was trying to push a mislynch on one of the two of u on day 1. He was trying to restrict the town to voting for one of us. When it was perfectly plausible that both of us were town. He justified this by saying, that mallow had attacked me and tried to bandwagon against me.. If anything if I turn town, that seemed to make him town as well for urging a mislynch not something a mafia would readily do (when there wasn't a real case against me just people not liking me for flaming them and being arrogant early!)Wraith wrote:I do believe he and mallow are opposite alignments
UGH What? Another stupid/meaningless post by wraith.. Of course we are going to lynch someone on day 1, agar pointing out that we have to lynch someone on day 1 is NOt scummy......Wraith wrote:Ha, come to think of it, I might be wrong reading AGar as town based on the one post about No Lynch statistics. He may be scum trying to subtly lead us into a mislynch.
Another example of his bandwagoning. You initially bandwagoned the vote on DP because I was the scummiest according to those leadin that bandwagon (mallow etc). You then switched your vote because a few other people had switched to mallow and he was now the scummiest according to those leading that bandwagon. Why did you not try to find any scum yourself at any point?Wraith wrote:Speaking of misinterpretations, there's silver's comment on the earlier questions about the "extra vote hammer." Either you're not reading or you're digging for scumduggery, my bet's on the latter. Let's talk about that vote and that question. I initially voted DP because he was the scummiest player at the time. I said I would hammer if I had the extra vote because he was being a jerk at the time. I switched my vote because not only has DP stopped being a jerk (blatantly at least, he still jabs at people subtly, but don't we all?) but also because mallow has emerged as a scummier player. That answer your analysis?
silverbullet999 wrote:@WraithIt's always better to attempt to contribute something rather than nothing. Right now your just backing the arguments Uite and NS made, this gives you the perfect defense if their investigation ends up lynching him and he flips town. me no likie.
I have nothing useful to contribute at the moment, just maintaining my vote against mallow. I think Uite and NS make sound cases against him and further justify my suspicions.
Point 2(Important): You then go onto try to explain that I am voting for you ONLY as revenge for you voting for me earlier... Um if I wanted to get back at anyone it would be those who started the bandwagon on me mallow/quadz etc. (well i guess i did get back at mallow heh)... You just joined in the bandwagon.. THe fact YOU tried to justify someone else's vote and explain it makes no sense. Why are you explaining my vote? I'm the only one who can explain it, and let me tell you it's because you read like scum. You still read like scum. And you probably are Scum.Wraith wrote:@silver: Why wouldn't it? Would YOU appreciate being accused of being scum?
@Beefster: If I wasn't already voting for a scummier player I'd probably vote for DP, not only because he also seems scummy to me but also because he's accusing me of scum, probably in retaliation for voting for him earlier in the day.
OH trust me, the Scum IS THERE.Wraith wrote:DavidParker: leaning pro-town, but he seems hell-bent on hunting for scum that aren't there
Point 5: More of Wraith not dealing well with people voting for him...Wraith wrote:And to reply to one of DP's earlier comments: of course it's beneficial to me to play stupider than I actually am initially. Yeah, I still am not the best scumhunter, but my scumdar wasn't made in 1942. I can see the obvious, and I can show the obvious to my comrades.
They can choose whose case to believe whenever they want...Wraith wrote:I'm rather annoyed that the people who are voting for me are:
1. Ignoring major scumtells on mallow (early lynch, BW<<<<this just flashes red to me)
2. Insisting that my defense of myself is scummy. We're at the tipping point here, and apparently attempting to keep myself from getting killed is a scumtell.
3. Believing DP's case over mine. His entire case is based around the vague ambiguity that I am trying to blend in as town too much. I've pointed out several scumtells that mallow has slipped up with. The only case DP has against me is that I'm defending myself against lynch.
Is also "careful" about it by saying leaning pro-town rather than the uite "protown scumhunter". The main thing bringing doubt to this pairing for me is when NS went "on the attacK 'against Wraith for a very brief time in day 1. I still forsee a possible quadz pairing with him.Wraith wrote:1. mallowgeno: scumdar shooting sparks
2. silverbullet: pro-town, scumhunter extraordinaire
3. quadz08: It's a toss-up, but doing that analysis (especially with mallow's vote against him) I'm inclined to think he was a townie who fell for buddying
4. Uite: pro-town, scumhunter
5. DavidParker: leaning pro-town, but he seems hell-bent on hunting for scum that aren't there
6. AGar: neutral. I think he needs to participate some more
7. Beefster: Leaning pro-town, need more posts to decide
8: NS: Leaning pro-town