Newbie 922: Day 3

[Cojin]

Firstly

Unvote

Well this is my first game as an official IC .

1. None of these people unless the mod counts

2. enough to be an ic?

3. your a fruit.

4. each game has to be approached differently as the changing variable of different people changes the game drasticly.

Panacea you have an issue with putting lawls at l3 that early but in THE SAME POST you put elementary fermion at l3. Why is him being at L3 not an issue but lawls is?

[Cojin]

Wow have we seriously put her at l3 already?

[Cojin]

Ugg im a horrible ic.

ok lets start discussion

Everybody besides her flop to another L-3 Why do you think we should lynch panacea right now?

[Cojin]

Grammer issue sorry

Everybody, besides her flop to another l-3

as in what other reason do we have to increase the pressure on her.


Its created discussion so overall its quite a good thing to have her at l-2 at this stage. a scum quick-hammer is highly unlikely because it would be to quick too easy to point out. I feel we shouldent pressure her for a claim, not this early there is not enough to go off of.

But her lack of panic makes me feel she is comfortable that she wont be quicklynched (as she may be scum and thus a quicklynch at l-2 impossible) leaving me inclined to read more of what she posted. Although her post are generaly helpful they seem to be mostly filler.

[Cojin]

Cojin wrote:
I feel we shouldent pressure her for a claim, not this early there is not enough to go off of.
LOL! Oh, Cojin... Who said anything about a claim? That'll take some 'splainin'.

I was premptivly stopping someone from suggesting just that.

Ill go get myself an avatar rightn ow.

[Cojin]

Cojin : Do you play better as town or scum? Which do you prefer?

I prefer town as i find it less stressing.

Your timezone limits you to one post a day? That’s a new one on me. Which timezone would that be? A different timezone (which I am in as well...GMT) might keep you from realtime, instant message type, posting on the board with others. It should not be an excuse for no content. Having a read through, formulating opinions, discussing suspicions, and providing justification for votes is in now way dependent on timezones.

I think what they are trying to say is more or less, they are not on at the same time we are, but givin the amount of time that has progress and the amount of posts per person, being in a diffrent time zone would not affect how much they post or how often, it would just atribute to lack of simulposting, if anything I am taking his actions of small posts and trying to excuse his lurking ness with uninformed filler is nothing other then

active lurking

Vote: Lawls

[Cojin]

Sorry guys but first and foremost I am responding to a prod, but I have and will be over the next 2 days busy with university starting again and my commitment to the frisbee club and other important societies there I will not be active but I shall try and do some reading tonight and report back asap!

You did not foresee these conflicts when you joined up?

FoS Independent John

for coordinated lurking.

CAUTION: I'm writing this post when I'm really tired. If there are gaping wholes in logic or in words, please forgive. I will re post this post editted tomorrow if it comes out incoherent.

Havingfitz idea is that Independent John had "coordinated lurking." Here are several reasons why this idea makes little sense:
1)It's only

two

days. Not even a noticable absence, really, yet havingfitz plays it up a lot here.
2) What would he be coordinating lurking

from?

It's not like the deadline is coming in two days or we pressured him for a claim right now. Makes no sense.
3) The idea of coordinating lurking is pretty popesterious, and implies that we all should keep in mind all possible time-conflicting things before starting the game.
4) Doesn't coordinated imply you were working with someone else? Maybe htat he
5) Lurking for two days with a real excuse isn't even scummy to begin with.[/quote]


What i dont understand is how he blatently ignored how much lawls was lurking yet attacked him for less.

[Cojin]

I would like one answer from everybody at this stage.

What are your thoughts on Acomist's play so far
What are your thoughts on my play so far

Thankyou

Acomist seems to have more of a defencive stance then offencive i cant quite figure out what it means though

your play= Active lurking and filler. scummy at the least

Votecount
Lawls - 3 (Elementary Fermion, Cojin, Acosmist)
Elementary Fermion - 1 (Independent John)
Cojin - 1 (havingfitz)
Acosmist - 1 (Lawls)

Not Voting - 2 (Panacea, RayFrost)

With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch

[Cojin]

not my momma

Why was i brought up?


And on the topic of meta i fullheartedly agree that when one knows there meta they can not use there meta as a defence because it is easily faked, and town tell meta cant be used if they are town as if they know it they can fake it as mafia.

[Cojin]

Cojin....how would you assess you play so far and are you still playing the game? If you are...why are your posts so infrequent and weak?

Im sorry i hold full responcibility, im just having trouble feeling much of this game as far as my reads go most of the walls of texts seem to be town on town.

Lawls seems to be saying more but i cant tell if its because of the accusations of active lurking or because they are legitimitly doing something but they are still on my radar (and i would much prefer them placing a sex so i can stop using ambigous terms) also asking for people to refrence play from previous games im having trouble seperating if it is A) lawls generaly wanting to Improve or B) laws trying to pull of a false town meta.


Ray frost your secretary was not in and bruce wayne just CCed batman, Why do you think im scum?

[Cojin]

I would say my top 2 scum are laws and well thats all i got,

as far as the pancea sparked my radar on how quickly she jumped wagons, so i guess she is a small blip and the closest thing i got.

I am also willing to put lawls at l-1 by tommorow depending on what people think

[Cojin]

Oh wow I forgot about my vote on lawls, Well so basicly he was sitting at l-1 for quite a while with no hammer and no ask for a claim?

[Cojin]

No I'm not waiting for something. I'll become more active when I'm being asked questions and when I feel the need to point out or say something. No I will not stay this passive the whole game.

At what point in the game will you become more active?


pancea you cant refrence ongoing games in any way

[Cojin]

V/LA due to being not of state of mind to post (st pattys day)

[Cojin]

Responding to prod reading now

[Cojin]

Acomist is right on what i was going with, Having fits is dead wrong.


Having fits i seem to be so hardcore locked in your sights as def scum, what are you going to do when you find out im town? I mean even your FOS seems like a rage post to me. You attack me throughly for the exact same thing laws is doing yet Compleatly ignore him. you said so yourself "His wagon is bigger so he is prob less likely to be scum" Scince when is that a valid statment. If anything lawls is scum and you are his buddy.

META

I draw scum tunnels [/b] End meta

Fos Havingfitz

Oh im having trouble uploading an avatar btw

[Cojin]

uploading MsPaint avatar XD

[Cojin]

oh hey im dead lawls is scum

[Cojin]

more so im messaging mith, i think lawls essently avoided his lynch by going awol ill claim that you killed a usefull ally and you will find out on my death scene this game pisses me off to much now.

[Cojin]

if its not a rule now it should be, that after asking for a replacement, you should not be able to decide suddenly you dont want to.

Btw scum list lawls and having fits are obv

[Cojin]

nacho im dead the days over

[Cojin]

im more pissed off that he was ignored because he asked for a replacment then suddenly changed his mind and i got hammerd

[Cojin]

seems im not dead :/ well now that i soft claimed im dead tonight. eather way laws should be lynched now.

[Cojin]

Pan1cea if you want to risk a power role lynch you will vote me but thats up to you.

But the fact laws vote hoped to me immediatly suggests that he is scum if im guessing right he thought he was hammering as much as i did. Imo a quickhammer like that is more then enough scummyness to warrent a lynch

Votecount
Cojin - 3 (RayFrost, havingfitz, Lawls)
Lawls - 2 (Cojin, Acosmist
Panacea - 1 (ElementaryFermion)
Nachomamma8 - 1 (BridgesAndBaloons)
BridgesAndBaloons - 1 (Nachomamma8)

Not Voting - 1 (Panacea)

With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch

[Cojin]

Ugg well im a Doc again and didnt want to claim it in the case i survived the night and scum tried to claim it , i would be able to cc it. but alas i can not, sorry about all the lack of content but posts longer then the the screen REALLY make me lose intrest fast, i here to play a game not read a book. Im going to answer havingscums questions right now.

[Cojin]

Cojin is about in the middle of the pack for me. I wouldn't lynch him. I'd be displeased to see him lynched. He hasn't posted much and it'd be nice if he took the hint to stop lurking, but, unlike Lawls, he posts dead-on content when he does post.

Dead on content? Huh?

Cojin ISO (questions to Cojin in bold):
ISO 0 - Unvotes, gives IC credentials, asks Panacea a good question about her freaking out over the early L-3 votes.
ISO 1 - Freaks out himself over Pan being put at L-3

<--so why was it enough of an issue to question Pan about it?

ISO 2 - Admits to being bad IC, urges discussion, tells others (sans Pan) to flop to a different L-3 and asks why Pan should go.
ISO 3 - Apologizes for grammer fail. Tries to explain his ISO 2 post and makes these two [sarcasm]excellent comments:[/sarcasm]

• "overall its quite a good thing to have her at l-2 at this stage"
  <---If L-3 is so bad....why are you a proponent of an early L-2?
  
  
  
  "her lack of panic makes me feel she is comfortable that she wont be quicklynched (as she may be scum and thus a quicklynch at l-2 impossible)"
  <--so are you saying you think Pan is scum? BTW...your vote is on your fellow lurker.

ISO 4 - Explains ISO 3 post and says he is going to go get an avatar.
ISO 5 - Answers question (says he prefers being town) and gives his interpretation of Lawls timezone excuse post...and then votes Lawls for active lurking.
ISO 6 - Makes this observation re: me,

"What i dont understand is how he blatently ignored how much lawls was lurking yet attacked him for less."

which I later show to be completely inaccurate.
ISO 7 - Answers question re: his opinion of Acosmist and Lawls.
ISO 8 - Asks something about his momma and makes a completely gibberish coment on metas.
ISO 9 - Apologizes for his play (I think), elaborates on his Lawls opinion (more gibberish) and asks RF why he (RF) think Cojin is scum (amongst an odd secretary/batman joke).

I think Lawls is scummier at the moment...but I really don't see anything redeeming about Cojin's game unless you consider his initial questions to Panacea enough to consider the reast of his posts dead-on.

Number 1 I made that comment because everyone was so easy to agree with me that the pan wagon started accelerating to fast to quickly on d1.

number 2 to me seems like the same question

number 3 Yes at the time i thought she was scum now im less inclined to belive this is true


I belive that is all.

[Cojin]

The meta is the fact i tend to be a D-1 lynch and its not uncommen that scum is the main tunneler on this wagon

man you are still on me after i claim doc, wow you are terribad scum, its gonna suck if scum hammers and i flip town, but scince both lawls AND havingfitz are voting me im not to much worried about being hammerd atm

Laws today havingfitz tommorow

[Cojin]

IMO it would be to risky for scum to make a power role claim this early in the game but as a result of me being the scummiest atm (i acttualy dont belive this due to my beleaf there is 2 town and 2 scum on my wagon meaning only 2 of the town belive i am scum) the scum being Havingfits and laws of course im not really afraid of someone ccing me because it would confirm after my lynch at least 1 scum (aka the guy who claimed doc) when i flip doc it would be too obv who is scum.

Yes my protect will go through i have had who i was going to prot in my head for quite a while now.

[Cojin]

As for me being a VT claiming doc. HAHAH im not stupid look at my last game where I was doc once again and a vt claimed doc putting us from a gauranteed win to a 50/50 chance

Votecount
Cojin - 4 (RayFrost, havingfitz, Lawls, Nachomamma8)
Lawls - 2 (Cojin, Acosmist
Panacea - 1 (ElementaryFermion)
Nachomamma8 - 1 (BridgesAndBaloons)

Not Voting - 1 (Panacea)

With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch

[Cojin]

my protect wouldent go through if they have a rb and choose not to kill me, in that case there is a cop and that is go us. They know if there is a cop now though after my claim.

[Cojin]

We need to leach someone NOW.