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Post Post #7 (isolation #0) » Tue Oct 07, 2008 3:37 am

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Confirm.
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Post Post #38 (isolation #1) » Fri Oct 10, 2008 1:24 am

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Vote tamuz
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Post Post #43 (isolation #2) » Fri Oct 10, 2008 6:38 am

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Page 2...You don't have to give a reason this early...
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Post Post #45 (isolation #3) » Fri Oct 10, 2008 6:53 am

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Post Post #48 (isolation #4) » Fri Oct 10, 2008 9:13 am

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Post Post #57 (isolation #5) » Sat Oct 11, 2008 8:48 am

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Guys seriously, page 2, first post, there was nothing real behind my vote.
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Post Post #59 (isolation #6) » Sat Oct 11, 2008 9:28 am

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Unvote Vote Grum
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Post Post #61 (isolation #7) » Sat Oct 11, 2008 9:38 am

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Because he's put me at the top of his list for random voting.
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Post Post #76 (isolation #8) » Mon Oct 13, 2008 5:11 am

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I'm thinking Tamuz and Grum are the scum right now.

Possibly Alex being one if they aren't.

Not got much more to say than that right now.
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Post Post #81 (isolation #9) » Mon Oct 13, 2008 6:00 am

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Hmm, possibly. But that isn't based at all on interactions, merely on finding the indivuals on their own scummy.

However, yes, it is possibile Tamuz was attempting some kind of a distancing act, I would not rule that out as a possibility.
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Post Post #84 (isolation #10) » Mon Oct 13, 2008 6:28 am

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Grum had just done something scummy, so this raised him to point point of worthiness for a vote change. Plus, like I said, my Tamuz vote was random, I don't think I really started to form this opinion until ater I changed anyway.

Not to Alex, because i'm not as uspicious of him as the others.
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Post Post #93 (isolation #11) » Mon Oct 13, 2008 11:46 pm

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Um, what? Big post explaining
my
play? Are you serious? Only I explain my play.
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Post Post #95 (isolation #12) » Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:34 am

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How have I not explained? There is nothing i've done that has gone unexplained.
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Post Post #97 (isolation #13) » Tue Oct 14, 2008 5:27 am

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Lol, I love that line, i'm sigging it! :P
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Post Post #100 (isolation #14) » Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:17 am

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Why do you feel the need to respond to everything?

In my experience, that's scum logic.
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Post Post #104 (isolation #15) » Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:56 am

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Ok. That's not a bad response, actually.

On your thing about Clyde and Destrox. I have definatley noticed a difference in them. Clyde and Ald are looking the most townie in my eyes.
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Post Post #115 (isolation #16) » Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:48 am

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Grum's most recent post does actually kinda strike me as town.

I think a scum would probably vote me and we'd both be at L-1, with Clyde making a desicion, rather than holding off on me because he doesn't think i'm scum.

I'll

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Post Post #130 (isolation #17) » Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:42 am

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I'm starting to think that perhaps an Alex vote is the way to go.

Partly because i'm finding it hard to see 3 townies on my wagon, and scum not doing anything to try and instigate my lynch.
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Post Post #144 (isolation #18) » Thu Oct 16, 2008 8:28 pm

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Explanation please? The sentence about odds doesn't really sell me. Odds and statistics are the weakest things to lynch on.
Maybe. What you quoted has nothing to do with that though.

Alex is the one I find scummiest on my wagon.

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Post Post #148 (isolation #19) » Fri Oct 17, 2008 12:32 am

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Looks like Grum has just gone and done what I said wasn't happening.

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Post Post #150 (isolation #20) » Fri Oct 17, 2008 2:30 am

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Go ahead, I don't mind.
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Post Post #152 (isolation #21) » Fri Oct 17, 2008 4:44 am

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Perhaps, but not necessarily.
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Post Post #157 (isolation #22) » Fri Oct 17, 2008 6:23 am

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What am I supposed to defend myself against?

There is actually
nothing
I can defend from...

But if i'm being lynched, this is my advise:

As far as i'm concerned, Ald and Clyde are town.

Do NOT trust Tamuz. Just because he's talking lots and appearing pro-town, does not mean he is. Infact, it almost looks like he's trying a bit too hard to appear pro-town.

If I had to name a scumpair, I might go for Grum and Tamuz right now, but Alex and Destrox aren't bad idea's.
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Post Post #159 (isolation #23) » Fri Oct 17, 2008 11:59 am

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Destrox:

I am not ascociating you with Alex, I was just putting you in the possible scum group.

However, thinking about this, that might just be because of Tamuz's saying about you rather than actually finding you scummy. You are definately the one I am least suspicious of of the 4 I named.
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Post Post #164 (isolation #24) » Sat Oct 18, 2008 2:21 pm

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Why do you keep calling for me to talk when I have the second largest post count in the game? Only Ald has more than me. So trying to say i'm not participating is bullshit.
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Post Post #199 (isolation #25) » Fri Oct 24, 2008 11:41 am

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Greetings Twiglees.
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Post Post #205 (isolation #26) » Mon Oct 27, 2008 6:16 am

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Are you still dead set on getting me deadline lynched or you actually want to try and catch scum today?
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Post Post #208 (isolation #27) » Mon Oct 27, 2008 6:28 am

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Post Post #216 (isolation #28) » Tue Oct 28, 2008 6:21 am

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Destrox might need replacing.
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Post Post #217 (isolation #29) » Tue Oct 28, 2008 6:22 am

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Alex too.
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Post Post #233 (isolation #30) » Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:53 am

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Well, your wrong, Tam.

Last post of Alex does nothing to aleviate my suspicion of him. I find scum are more often the ones struggling for anything to add.
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Post Post #244 (isolation #31) » Sun Nov 02, 2008 3:49 pm

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Grum trying to lie that I haven't contributed and now attacking the most obvtown player here keeps my vote...
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Post Post #246 (isolation #32) » Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:34 am

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It's pretty easy to see by looking at my isolation.

Don't patronise me.
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Post Post #248 (isolation #33) » Mon Nov 03, 2008 6:44 am

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Learn to read?
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Post Post #250 (isolation #34) » Mon Nov 03, 2008 6:55 am

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There is no explanation to give. It is evident for you to see. What the hell are you expecting me to say?
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Post Post #256 (isolation #35) » Tue Nov 04, 2008 2:25 am

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I have to agree with Clyde that Tamuz has appeared to be overcontributing spuriosly to the point of scumminess.
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Post Post #258 (isolation #36) » Tue Nov 04, 2008 4:31 am

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Seawolf, you tip-toe round some good points, but keep the blindfold on...
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Post Post #260 (isolation #37) » Tue Nov 04, 2008 6:31 am

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Excuse me? Being silent? Don't I have the most posts here?

Grum's first post is one of the main points in his favour, imo. It's his more recent actions I don't like.
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Post Post #262 (isolation #38) » Tue Nov 04, 2008 6:59 am

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He is still participating in a mislynch.
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Post Post #271 (isolation #39) » Tue Nov 04, 2008 3:24 pm

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I am also open to voting Alex.
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Post Post #276 (isolation #40) » Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:46 am

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Deadline is tonight right?

IC's aren't allowed to self-vote, so I can't help with a lynch of myself even if it's the only thing that would avoid a No-Lynch.

I strongly recommend a lynch of someone other than me.
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Post Post #290 (isolation #41) » Tue Nov 11, 2008 10:41 pm

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The kill is not at all surprising, and no lynch yesterday was horrible. Lynching me would have been better than no lynch. Scum probably deserve to win now.
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Post Post #292 (isolation #42) » Wed Nov 12, 2008 8:14 am

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Vote Alex
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Post Post #295 (isolation #43) » Wed Nov 12, 2008 9:47 am

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Would vote Grum to, either are good lynches.
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Post Post #308 (isolation #44) » Sat Nov 15, 2008 7:34 am

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In reality, there is not. Not in this game.
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Post Post #310 (isolation #45) » Sat Nov 15, 2008 2:13 pm

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That's exactly how I pronounce it dude. :)

I find most people go for "X-to-x-m".
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Post Post #313 (isolation #46) » Sat Nov 15, 2008 2:56 pm

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The more I think about it, the more I can see an Alex-Tamuz scum pair.

I think Grum's made a few poor moves, but I can see him being town.

At any rate, I think the scum are contained in those 3.
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Post Post #315 (isolation #47) » Sat Nov 15, 2008 4:23 pm

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Yeh you make a lot of posts like that and I can't but want to vote you for it. Mixed vibes from you...
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Post Post #330 (isolation #48) » Tue Nov 18, 2008 4:43 am

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At a guess, because he thinks he's scum. It's a popular reason for voting people.
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Post Post #332 (isolation #49) » Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:06 am

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You can't defend yourself by saying "I wouldn't do that as scum".

You come into the Day looking like you've made a plan at night.

By the same EXACT argument of your own. Aldu was pretty conident of me being town. Why, exactly, do you now accuse me of killing him?

Where do you get this "One of us has to be sucm" from?
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Post Post #350 (isolation #50) » Thu Nov 20, 2008 2:13 am

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I think Alex looks like squirming scum there when he was worried about being lynched. Happy to go through with this.
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Post Post #354 (isolation #51) » Thu Nov 20, 2008 9:35 am

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May as well start looking for a new replacement already...
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Post Post #355 (isolation #52) » Thu Nov 20, 2008 9:36 am

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AWA wrote:Are this many replacements normal?
Yes. There's rarely a NG without a few.
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Post Post #358 (isolation #53) » Thu Nov 20, 2008 11:18 am

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Don't get your hopes up. He rarely posts.
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Post Post #362 (isolation #54) » Fri Nov 21, 2008 2:35 am

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ZazieR wrote:
xtoxm wrote:May as well start looking for a new replacement already...
xtoxm wrote:Don't get your hopes up.
She
rarely posts.
What fate do we have in you if you don't even know my gender :roll:.
Does Lynch al Liars apply? As it does, I know already who to lynch :roll:

But to not break the rule, it's good to see you again xtoxm.
However, saying a thing based upon one experience, is bad. Yes, I don't post much in our other game, but that doesn't mean that I do that in every game. I'm pretty active in newbie games. BC2 knows that by now.

Besides, perhaps I post little, but quality is better than quantity. That's something you still have to learn ;).

I'll post my thoughts about this game when I'm back from school.

But seriously, it's good to see you again xtoxm.
We're actually in 2 games and you haven't posted in one for about a month.

I know your gender...And I know that annoys you...I was doing it to see if you'd notice/because you were annoying me. You failed to pick up on it in either of the other games, which tells me you're not reading them...
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Post Post #365 (isolation #55) » Fri Nov 21, 2008 8:48 am

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ZazieR wrote:
Rules of this game wrote:This is a game. Have fun. Don't let things get personal.
I don't want things to get personal as this game should prove some newbies here that this site is awesome. Shall we ceasefire this conflict between us? If you don't accept this, then please don't let this ruin the game as we should be the examples (although you might think I'm not a good example) and PM me. Then we can discuss this privately.
Also, I like to play again with a player with whom I've shared or am still sharing a game. I want to show what I've learned during other games to those players and I hope those players will do the same. But haven't you seen the game proposal of KMD? He chose some players with whom he would like to play a mini with and we were both in it. I don't think you would accept as I'm in it ;).

Sorry for those who want to know my thoughts. I like to chat with players who I've played a game with or still playing with, although they can bug me sometimes. I usually try to not let that have any influence, but as shown in my first post, that doesn't happen in all of my games. I'm sorry, but my thoughts will come tomorrow. I thought I had some free time, but it seems not.
Sorry if you feel i've made things personal, that was not my intention. My previous post was not meant as an attack.

I have not seen this proposal.
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Post Post #371 (isolation #56) » Sun Nov 23, 2008 3:31 am

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I found it a pretty easily read, actually. I usually get bored before I finish reading a big post but that was ok.

Anyway, the things I wanted to respond to now:

Don't coach me please. I'm not a newbie. I'm happy with the level of quality of my play. My play is usually very effective for finding scum, I just tend to get lynched a lot.

I didn't vote Alex yesterday because I didn't think there was enough time to get a new wagon going, so I stayed on the big wagon. Yesterday was fail, and town lost a mislynch.

Also, I was for some reason under the impression that you replaced Twig. I don't know why this was as I am fully aware and have registered AWa is Twig's replacement...

However, this means i'm actually quite suspicious of you, whereas before I was looking at you as town...
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Post Post #372 (isolation #57) » Sun Nov 23, 2008 3:32 am

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May respond to more stuff from the later, that was just what sprang up as I read it.
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Post Post #396 (isolation #58) » Mon Dec 01, 2008 6:33 am

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Zazier, how come you capitalize everyone elses names and not mine?

Could you do mine too please...:)

Nice post but still sus that you could be bussing.
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Post Post #423 (isolation #59) » Sat Dec 06, 2008 6:30 am

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Nah, there is strategy in this game.

And I can kinda see where you're coming from on Des, but I like Alex for scum atm.
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Post Post #441 (isolation #60) » Tue Dec 09, 2008 8:28 am

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I don't think you're scum.
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Post Post #443 (isolation #61) » Tue Dec 09, 2008 8:31 am

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I don't think you're scum.
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Post Post #442 (isolation #62) » Tue Dec 09, 2008 8:31 am

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I don't think you're scum.
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Post Post #444 (isolation #63) » Tue Dec 09, 2008 8:31 am

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Gah, stupid error screen.
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Post Post #457 (isolation #64) » Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:06 pm

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Why is the Alex wagon falling apart?

Why don't you think he's scum?
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Post Post #460 (isolation #65) » Sun Dec 14, 2008 7:38 am

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Not often. The only quick games really are Marathon Days, and that's literally everyone sitting in and days lasting about 30 mins.

I know how you feel though, this site moves a lot slower than others, I had an outburst in ym first NG, but I got used to the pace and I like it now.

Although sometimes games do drag, and that's jsut annoying. I'd say this game IS moving a bit slower than normal.
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Post Post #466 (isolation #66) » Wed Dec 17, 2008 7:13 am

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No.
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Post Post #480 (isolation #67) » Sun Dec 21, 2008 10:50 am

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End of day.

As Zaz, i'd still rather Alex lynch.
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Post Post #482 (isolation #68) » Sun Dec 21, 2008 2:12 pm

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I was considering it, but Alex has jsut wagoned him, and i'm thinking Alex much more as scum than Grum. Only 2 votes needed for Alex lynch anyway. If you changed Pear, that's just one more needed. I'm thinking Grum's town atm.
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Post Post #484 (isolation #69) » Sun Dec 21, 2008 2:47 pm

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Yeh, but i'm set on this lynch and i'm happy to wait until Jan 5th to change ^_^
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Post Post #487 (isolation #70) » Sun Dec 21, 2008 4:11 pm

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No, i've been suspicious of him for ages and was the first to vote him.
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Post Post #494 (isolation #71) » Fri Dec 26, 2008 6:18 pm

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Shoulda done that yesterday...I still like Alex for today, but I can see it's prob not gonna happen, so

Unvote Vote Grum
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Post Post #495 (isolation #72) » Fri Dec 26, 2008 6:19 pm

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Think that's the lynch, anyway.
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Post Post #497 (isolation #73) » Sat Dec 27, 2008 12:57 pm

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Given the time of year, i'd imagine atleast a week, from now.
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Post Post #500 (isolation #74) » Tue Dec 30, 2008 3:55 pm

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Not surprising.

Can we lynch scum finally?

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Post Post #502 (isolation #75) » Tue Dec 30, 2008 5:30 pm

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Because no other lynch was going to happen, NL wouldn't have helped. The nightkills have been 2 people who were prectically confirmed town in my eyes.

I would have hoped that how yesterday went down would be enough to show you i'm town and Alex is scum.
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Post Post #503 (isolation #76) » Tue Dec 30, 2008 5:31 pm

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*With the reveal
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Post Post #505 (isolation #77) » Wed Dec 31, 2008 4:51 am

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I'm thinking you're his partner.
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Post Post #507 (isolation #78) » Wed Dec 31, 2008 6:52 am

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Destrox.
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Post Post #523 (isolation #79) » Sun Jan 04, 2009 5:20 pm

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Wine In Front Of Me. It's a refernce to The Princess Bride...Look it up on the wiki.
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Post Post #531 (isolation #80) » Thu Jan 08, 2009 7:07 pm

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LOL

As if I needed any more convincing he was scum.

Can we fucking lynch him already? He's not even trying anymore.
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Post Post #532 (isolation #81) » Thu Jan 08, 2009 7:08 pm

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Also, smoothly done Alex. Like the way you only produce one result for two nights work.
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Post Post #535 (isolation #82) » Fri Jan 09, 2009 11:00 am

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PB, I expect Alex to be hammered when you return from the Dominicon. We can lynch Destrox tomorrow.
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Post Post #537 (isolation #83) » Fri Jan 09, 2009 11:56 am

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Then vote me. I don't care. You're not town.
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Post Post #540 (isolation #84) » Sat Jan 10, 2009 6:48 am

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Are you retarded? At the minimum it should be a choice between me and Alex.

Hammer Alex please.
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Post Post #542 (isolation #85) » Sat Jan 10, 2009 7:59 am

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Jeez. I might expect this from a newbie but not from you.

"I lynched the guy I had an innocent on because I was worried it would out me if I didn't"

How can you buy that bullshit? That's got to be the most pathetic excuses i've ever heard. Apart from that, he's been scummy pretty much all game, and continually has said he's reading, but had nothing to add. You even wanted him lynched yesterday, why are you backing down now?
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Post Post #543 (isolation #86) » Sat Jan 10, 2009 8:01 am

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alex aragao wrote:I keep insisting on the Grum/Xtoxm scum pair...
Alex said this on D2, when he supposedly had an innocent on Grum. And you're telling me you believe him?! Jesus...
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Post Post #546 (isolation #87) » Sat Jan 10, 2009 8:11 am

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I suggest you give up mafia.
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Post Post #547 (isolation #88) » Sat Jan 10, 2009 8:14 am

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Xtoxm, this has been the most angry you have gotten in this entire game because one person claimed to be cop. You weren't even this emotional when you had majority votes and was close to being lynched.
Yes, you're right. It's fucking obvious whose scum. It wasn't before. And yes it's getting me wound up.
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Post Post #549 (isolation #89) » Sat Jan 10, 2009 8:18 am

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Fuck you.
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Post Post #557 (isolation #90) » Sun Jan 11, 2009 1:05 pm

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And now he withdraws it because he see's how stupid it was to claim that... :roll:

Zazier is probably his scumbuddy for not hammering.
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Post Post #559 (isolation #91) » Sun Jan 11, 2009 5:10 pm

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Also, I wish to apologise for my outburst. I got frustrated and said some things I shouldn't have. I'm sorry if I offended anyone.

Zazier in particular this is aimed at. I don't think you should give up mafia.
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Post Post #568 (isolation #92) » Mon Jan 12, 2009 7:08 am

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I did have that feeling at the back of my mind, actually, but I completely ignored it (and stand by it) you shouldn't lie as town about being a cop in lylo, particularly it's not something i'm happy to condone for newbie's.

I started to think something fishy was going on when Zaz wouldn't hammer...(Why? it was garanteed win)

I'm fairly pleased my early read on Tam was right :P

AWA I was wrong on all game. His predecors convinced me the role was town, and I didn't give him much thought. I guess the only scumtells I can think of (in hindsight) are light posting in lylo, and that changing to me for "being dangerous" was just silly, I just waved it off as newbiness...

The NL really hurt town, Destrox I took this as a scumtell from you - You left knowing you'd miss and wouldn't place a vote. If you are going to be away at deadline, you should always vote for you biggest target, no matter how unsure you are.

I'd figured it was the all townie setup, for what it's worth...:P
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Post Post #570 (isolation #93) » Mon Jan 12, 2009 7:27 am

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If I was doc i'd have protected Clyde every night. I had him confirmed town in my eyes pretty early on, also thought he might have been a cop.
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Post Post #571 (isolation #94) » Mon Jan 12, 2009 7:27 am

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I did with Ald too, but I thought he was VT.

They both got killed quick though, I guess they looked good to everyone...
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Post Post #572 (isolation #95) » Mon Jan 12, 2009 7:29 am

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If I had known this, I would have hammered Alex immediatly. The only thing that was stopping me was the possibility of a doc. I wouldn't have known what to do if the doc would have made the right protection after the Alex lynch. That's why I decided to wait with hammering and to see what would happen. In the end, it turned all out for the best , but the hammer would have had the same effect. So sorry for keeping you all waiting at the end.
You thought that both the real cop and the doc kept queit in lylo while a VT faked a cop claim?
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Post Post #577 (isolation #96) » Mon Jan 12, 2009 11:39 am

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Mod said it, I was blocked.
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Post Post #580 (isolation #97) » Mon Jan 12, 2009 3:24 pm

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You mean by the mod in the Day and Night scenes?

I've seen a couple of those run, but it's not very common. None come to mind on this site, but the Theme games would be the place to look.
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