Camp Ivanhoe

[Oracle]

Ok, everyone got the announcement?

No?

[Anthony Adams]

NOTICE: OPENING PORTION OF NEXT CHALLENGE BEGINS IMMEDIATELY AFTER TRIBAL COUNCIL. This portion will only consist of one simple submission from your tribe. You will have 4 hours to discuss and submit.

[Young Writer]

Where is that?

[Young Writer]

Oh they put it in the banner and not in announcements

[Richie Tenenbaum]

Yes, the banner that has been question prompts is now an announcement for a challenge submissions we'll need to decide on within 4 hours tonight.  I'll be around immediately after deadline.

[Anthony Adams]

I will be busy for most of it, but I'll do what I can. :I

[Oracle]

I also missed it and immediately went to the announcement board. I should be around about 30 minutes after this starts and will do my best to be present for the duration after!!!

[Oracle]

Holy WIFOM hell. I’ll think about this a bit and get back with thoughts. I don’t know if there’s even a good strategy to this. It just seems like luck mostly.

[Sam Shakusky]

My first instinct is to make our code 44444. Not sure if it's good or not yet.

[Oracle]

My first instinct is to make our code 44444. Not sure if it's good or not yet.

it’s bad if their first guesses are 01234 and 56789 because they would get 1 right and know all the rest of the digits.

[Sam Shakusky]

I do not comprehend.

[Sam Shakusky]

Like when they're sent 44444, I don't think they can gleam much information out of it? Like the order of the digits is completely arbitrary from their perspective.

[Oracle]

If they guess 01234 they would get told “1 correct the rest wrong” then they guess 56789 and get told “0 right”

Then they know its 00000, 11111, 22222, 33333 or 44444

Unless I don’t comprehend something about this challenge.

[Young Writer]

Wait so the other tribe seems to be guessing the combo that was rng'd we just determine what to shuffle it to?

[Sam Shakusky]

Wait so the other tribe seems to be guessing the combo that was rng'd we just determine what to shuffle it to?

This is my understanding of the challenge.

[Young Writer]

If that is the case 44444 is valid and probably works.

[Oracle]

I thought I just gave a reasonable suggestion why that’s not the best idea. Have I missed something in my logic?

[Sam Shakusky]

I thought I just gave a reasonable suggestion why that’s not the best idea. Have I missed something in my logic?

I think(?) they are trying to guess the number in our challenge thread from our shuffled number.

[Oracle]

I thought I just gave a reasonable suggestion why that’s not the best idea. Have I missed something in my logic?

I think(?) they are trying to guess the number in our challenge thread from our shuffled number.

Hmm okay. I think I see my confusion. Let me think a bit more and I’ll get back about this. I’m around until this is due so I’ll give it a look again and see if there is a better idea.

[Young Writer]

Side Note, mods have given us a spreadsheet we can use for guesses/theory. BE SURE TO ONLY VIEW IT IN INCOGNITO MODE TO KEEP YOURSELF ANONYMOUS: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KFY5dMQ4KnfKPZ987Y71Li2Nc-fOCNfY2usbTBNtlJQ/edit#gid=0

[Richie Tenenbaum]

I'll read the challenge post and chime in momentarily

[Richie Tenenbaum]

So, in reference to Sam's all 4 strategy, for the tiebreaker wouldn't all 9s be better?

[Wes Anderson]

Side Note, mods have given us a spreadsheet we can use for guesses/theory. BE SURE TO ONLY VIEW IT IN INCOGNITO MODE TO KEEP YOURSELF ANONYMOUS: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KFY5dMQ4KnfKPZ987Y71Li2Nc-fOCNfY2usbTBNtlJQ/edit#gid=0

like Young Writer said......... INCOGNITO ONLY!!!!! BEWARE exposing your ID accidentally!!!!

[Anthony Adams]

I think it's likely the first 2 guesses are gonna be 01234+56789 or 12345+67890

So we should avoid  putting 0 1 5 6 as the first digit, 1 2 6 7 as the second digit ect., no? Since we don't want to give exact placements?

[Wes Anderson]

So, in reference to Sam's all 4 strategy, for the tiebreaker wouldn't all 9s be better?

Do keep in mind, you can't simply scramble to any number you want.  It has to be 15 turns from your original number.